Unusual Physics Engine Game Ported To Linux 117
christian.einfeldt writes "Halloween has come early for Linux-loving gamers in the form of the scary Penumbra game trilogy, which has just recently been ported natively to GNU-Linux by the manufacturer, Frictional Games. The Penumbra games, named Overture, Black Plague and Requiem, are first-person survival horror and physics puzzle games which challenge the player to survive in a mine in Greenland which has been taken over by a monstrous infection/demon/cthulhu-esque thing. The graphics, sounds, and plot are all admirable in a scary sort of way. The protagonist is an ordinary human with no particular powers at all, who fumbles around in the dark mine fighting zombified dogs or fleeing from infected humans. But the game is remarkable for its physics engine — rather than just bump and acquire, the player must use the mouse to physically turn knobs and open doors; and the player can grab and throw pretty much anything in the environment. The physics engine drives objects to fly and fall exactly as one would expect. The porting of a game with such a deft physics engine natively to Linux might be one of the most noteworthy events for GNU-Linux gamers since the World of Goo Linux port."
It's Only $5 (Score:5, Informative)
Dirt cheap compared to most games even on Steam so I'll definitely see how well it runs on my Ubuntu box.
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i bought these games on steam, i think i paid the same. good games but i found it incredibly frustrating the lack of object highlighting as you would in some places have to scan your mouse around to find objects of interest, as, not *everything* would be interactive.
however, given a walkthrough i got to enjoy the very scary events of one of the games but i have to say that solving a puzzle is one thing, but not being able to find the pieces is quite another. i have played dreamfall, and that game is mostly
Re:It's Only $5 (Score:4, Informative)
lack of object highlighting
Options -> Game -> Flashing items
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that doesn't require rollover to activate? i'm pretty sure you still have to roll over...
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If on, items will flash shortly when nearby.
...so it could be that they stop flashing after a while (and then you need to roll over), but I can't remember seeing that happen. I guess I just grabbed them before they stopped flashing.
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I remember there being a Bioshock-style back-lighting to interactive items with that on...
Me, I turned that off. I didn't have any problems finding things, but then I'm usually pretty observant about these kinds of things.
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Did we slashdot their e-sales partner? I ordered the game a few minutes ago and am still waiting for a confirmation email from the shop.
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Hmm - did we slashdot Paypal? There's no history of the transaction in my account. Odd.
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Takes a while, but there it is.
I just wish the server was a tad quicker.
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It was instant for me, but then I paid directly rather then through pay pal
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Voted with my pocket and bought my copy, too. I just couldn't find the system requirements on the site.
Re:It's Only $5 (Score:5, Informative)
Windows Minimum Requirements:
OS: Windows 2000/XP/Vista
Processor: 1.5Ghz
Memory: 512MB
Disc Space: 2.0GB
Video Card: Radeon 8500/GeForce 3
(GeForce4MX not supported)
Linux Minimum Requirements:
Same hardware as Windows
Kernel 2.6 or higher(2.4 untested)
glibc 2.3
X11R6 with 3D acceleration
For x86_64 CPU, 32-bit environment
must be installed
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It's right on the 'Buy' page: http://www.penumbragame.com/buy.php [penumbragame.com]
Re:It's Only $5 (Score:5, Informative)
Re:It's Only $5 (Score:4, Insightful)
Yea... I really wish people would wise up and knock that shit off.
It's not that the users or webmasters are really at fault - it's the programmers who write the underlying code that think such things are acceptable - the people who should know better!
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They also have Mac versions available.
It's always nice to see when a company acknowledges that not everyone uses Windows
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I bought them for 5 euros on Steam some weeks ago, they had the same weekend deal :)
As much as I hate Steam for doing some dubious price changes, most their weekend deals are usually dirt cheap and worth it.
Unstoppable (Score:4, Funny)
Great, now where was that handbag?
Holy shit, these games are scary (Score:5, Interesting)
I remember trying the Penumbra... Scariest experience in my life. No other game or movie has gotten anywhere near. (Though I am the kind of person that get scared easily.)
Sneaking in dark mines, waiting for your eyes to get used to the darkness enough that you see something, hearing that there is something else nearby and staying still... I hoped it - whatever it was - would not see me (if it hadn't already)...
And you know that though you can escape, you can't outrun anything so you should very slowly sneak towards the door, turn the knob and get yourself to the other side and close the door before anything else gets there... But then again, you have no idea what is on the other side of the door.
I still don't know what was it that killed me. Perhaps one of such zombie dogs. It was pretty early and I didn't open the game again. Would recommend it, though.
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Heh, single dog.
<SPOILER>If you are good enough, you can grab a rock (or other heavy object) and beat it unconscious... at least long enough to get far enough away). Of course, make sure you barricade that door extremely well, or it will get through and make your life quite tense for a while. </SPOILER>
Not recent ports (Score:4, Informative)
Actually, they've had the Linux version of these games available for quite some time... The only thing new is the $5 special pricing for the complete collection of all three... But, if you haven't already got them before now, then definitely go get them for $5!
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Not recently ported (Score:2, Interesting)
That being said, these games are pretty cool if you like survival horror / adventure games.
Just who in world though this is good idea... (Score:3, Interesting)
... he player must use the mouse to physically turn knobs and open doors ...
Oh come on, ain't first rule of game design to throw away "realistic" rubbish and make game comfortable to play?
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all the time fearing that there's something on the other side waiting to gnaw your face off. And you know what? It's still comfortable to play.
This must be some sense of "comfortable" that I'm not familiar with :-)
Re:Just who in world though this is good idea... (Score:5, Interesting)
Generally speaking, you're quite right, so long as you bear in mind that sometimes the physical stuff -- timing your jump and hitting the button at just the right time for instance --- is where the challenge comes from.
BUT, in a horror game, it may be quite different. Horror is usually about making people uncomfortable -- ESPECIALLY about things like how fast they should open a door, whether they should rethink the action halfway through, whether they've already made a noise and should therefore get out of the room they're currently in ASAP, etc.
Re:Just who in world though this is good idea... (Score:4, Insightful)
My thought exactly. Think of a horror movie where you are sitting on your seat's edge because the protagonist fumbles with reload of his revolver while that zombie dog is dashing towards him. His hand shakes as he peels out the spent cartridges, he tries to load a new cartridge, he fumbles, the bullet drops into the black void below, the metal clanc as it hits the ground while you hear that unearthy bark and growl of the dog sprinting towards him, and only one more bullet in his hand... Then finally he manages to get it in, he raises the gun, tries to aim and just as the dog leaps to him he fires, blindly...
Way scarier and more suspense building than spitting out a full ammo box of machine gun ammo towards the dog and pretty much tearing it to bloody shreds that splatter down around our hero.
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No kidding! Ever tried hitting one of those ankle biters? Lemme tell you, when you only have one bullet, you'd prefer a Great Dane coming for you.
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Uncomfortable UIs just make me irritated.
And if I wanted to be irritated, there are plenty of ways I can do that without spending money. For example, I could debate politics, religion, or whether 0.9999999~ = 1 on the internet.
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Now, have you actually played the game? Longer than 5 minutes?
You quickly realize how well done the "UI" is.
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I tried playing it, but when it was still irritating me fifteen minutes in I figured I had more fun things to do with my time.
Unrealistic. (Score:5, Funny)
" The physics engine drives objects to fly and fall exactly as one would expect."
And that's what breaks the suspense of disbelief. I mean, in real life things never fall where I intend/expect them to fall as I throw them.
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I mean, in real life things never fall where I intend/expect them to fall as I throw them.
Are you female by any chance?
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Yeah, I'm female. Sorry about my aim. How's that bruise now?
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Sure they could be, it just depends on what population you take that average of! I'm sure that in the group of "woman and blind people" all woman that are not blind are far above average drivers :)
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Just kidding around ;)
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The next international women's day I'll make sure to tell 50 random women that they're excellent drivers. Just to help end these terrible myths once and for all.
That men only give compliments when they're trying to impress a chick, and they're often insincere?
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No, just a Slashdot poster. What's this 'outside' thing I keep hearing about?
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It's this free demo that everyone has seems to have access to. But I don't see the big deal, it hasn't been upgraded in a long time. You can't jump very far, and the physics engine seems a bit off to me. And the bugs! They can really be a problem, especially when the day/night cycle is changing over. They really need a 2.0 version before I'll play it again. My hardware doesn't seem to run it very well.
$5 each platform? (Score:2, Informative)
Poking around the checkouts I see that you buy the game individually for each operating system as opposed to buy once, run anywhere. If my main mac dies (again) I'll have to shell out again to play it on a Windows or Linux machine. Not a huge fan of this sort of arrangement, I liked Braid where I've paid for it once and have access to Windows and OSX copies.
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It is just fsck'ing $5, not $60. Spend $10 instead of $5 and get both. The price *IS* right here. Geez!
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Checking the price of braid it's $14.95 at the moment. This game is $5. Just buy it for every platform and stop bitching.
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Is this per OS or per computer? I have 3 computers. 1 runs linux exclusively, the other two dualboot linux and xp. I mainly use xp for gaming and HD media (I haven't tried getting vdpau to work yet) and linux for pretty much everything else. Can I buy the linux version once and use it on all my computers or do I need to buy it 3 times?
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Technically, I think it's per computer. You need to pay for an actual copy of the other OS version of the game, but there is no DRM or any such nonsense to prevent you from using it as you see fit.
Quit whining (Score:1)
Seriously.
It's so rare to see companies even show interest into porting games to Linux.
This one has done it and, hell, they deserve to be paid for it. It's not like porting to a minority platform is free.
Even if they charged extra for the Linux version, they would probably still lose money with the port.
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Poking around the checkouts I see that you buy the game individually for each operating system as opposed to buy once, run anywhere. If my main mac dies (again) I'll have to shell out again to play it on a Windows or Linux machine. Not a huge fan of this sort of arrangement, I liked Braid where I've paid for it once and have access to Windows and OSX copies.
I'm inclined to agree with Anonymous Coward:
It is just fsck'ing $5, not $60. Spend $10 instead of $5 and get both. The price *IS* right here. Geez!
Isn't Braid $15? Seems like the price is perfect!
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Poking around the checkouts I see that you buy the game individually for each operating system as opposed to buy once, run anywhere. If my main mac dies (again) I'll have to shell out again to play it on a Windows or Linux machine. Not a huge fan of this sort of arrangement, I liked Braid where I've paid for it once and have access to Windows and OSX copies.
Actually, there's an opportunity to purchase "insurance" or the like for an additional $5. The deal is that you have access to the source and can download as many times as you like from it for a one year period. So three games for $10 and a one year warranty, essentially. Not a bad deal.
This p'sses me off! (Score:2, Interesting)
This company can manage a native port of this great sounding game and engine, but WTF happened to UT3 and when are Bethesda going to port Fallout 3 and DLCs to GNU eh? Never that's when!
Seems like only the little companies are preapred to dispense with the BS and try something truly original, UT2004 was ported when EPIC was still allowed to, then ATARI got in there and just like the old days of the 80's, they suits decided that they not going to support some Mickey Mouse hippy type O/S!
Ughh!
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This company can manage a native port of this great sounding game and engine, but WTF happened to UT3 and when are Bethesda going to port Fallout 3 and DLCs to GNU eh? Never that's when!
Seems like only the little companies are preapred to dispense with the BS and try something truly original, UT2004 was ported when EPIC was still allowed to, then ATARI got in there and just like the old days of the 80's, they suits decided that they not going to support some Mickey Mouse hippy type O/S!
Ughh!
UT3's not even worth porting, there's still countless gameplay bugs that keep any serious teams from competing; you can't even access the server browser from the game (you have to disconnect, wait 8 seconds for loading, navigate through the server browser, then connect), and they've done nothing but alienate players with "additions" like in patch 2.0 counting bots as real players in the server player count (probably so that when people took screenshots of the "new server browser improvements" it would look
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Franchise had a great future. All the UT99 folk were excited, to say the least, about the gameplay in the demo. When they found out the demo was basically what the full game was going to be like (UI, to be specific) they completely lost interest.
It was Epic's chance to get all the UT99 folks onto the latest and greatest.
I myself still play UT3 just for the iCTF. But not much else.
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What's with the sudden interest in Lovecraft? (Score:1)
This article.
This one. [slashdot.org]
Then I head over to this site [mspaintadventures.com] and see this. [mspaintadventures.com]
Is there a sudden resurgence in Lovecraft as an Internet meme that I'm unaware of?
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You're perfectly fnord right.
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Lovecraft references have been a staple of geek-conversation for years, just like Monty Python and H2G2.
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I presume that the stars are right.
And... (Score:1)
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Bad headline.. another bad reporting.. sigh (Score:1)
Getting fustrated at /.'s constant missreporting in its headlines and articles these days, its worse than digg and thats saying something. It was ported to linux years ago, the series has always been a multiplatform game. this is just a combination of all three games into one pack. its worth the money easly but still, stop with the missleading headlines.
No 64-bit version? (Score:2)
Well, it won't run on any of my systems then.
Unless I feel like downloading untold megs of 32-bit libraries just to run this one app, just because they won't do a recompile. FFS!
Re:No 64-bit version? (Score:5, Funny)
downloading untold megs
Yeah, it could take, like, several minutes to do that!
Re:No 64-bit version? (Score:4, Insightful)
I have a 64 bit system and I play 32 bit world of goo without any problems once you install the 32 bit libs.
On my ubuntu machine is 101mb (installed), if that is a lot of space for you then you have a reasonable complaint.
Performance (Score:2)
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Got mine! (Score:1)
Windows user here, and I bought my copy. I love adventure games, and the best one I ever played was something called Realms of the Haunting (1997) which combined a creepy story, challenging puzzles, with just enough Doom-style first person action to keep you on the edge of your seat. I'ld like to see how Penumbra stacks up. Thanks for sharing this!
Now if only someone can convince Gremlin to open source ROTH, that would be great!
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I'm pretty sure Gremlin was liquidated years ago.
Odd lack of game commentary (Score:1)
Buy them now (Score:2)
Looks interesting ... (Score:2)
... and although I run NetBSD, for $5 it's worth buying just to see if it runs under Linux emulation.
Physics engine (Score:1)
Bought it ... tried it ... aieee! Still, wow. (Score:4, Interesting)
3 games for a fiver?
For Linux even?
In this quality?
I just can't *not* buy this game, which will be my first game purchase since I fished a copy of Half-Life (1) out of a bargain bin, back when I still had Windows at home.
But My God, this game is too creepy for me! The game is so dark and moody, it's no use trying to play it in any sort of daylight. Thanks for that, yer bastards. ;-) I cherish the opportunity to run a proper 3d game, in fullscreen resolution, I do appreciate the very nice motion blur effects, and it is kind of fun to learn the somewhat different control method (which, for some reason, reminds me of Alone in the Dark).
But it's just sneak sneak sneak BOOH! and I don't think my nerves can take this. I mean, that one place within the crawling tunnels of Space Quest was quite enough for me, thank you very much. I'd much rather play something like Day of Defeat (v1.3-ish), ported to Linux.
Still: if a smallish game company can pull this off, there is just *NO BLOODY EXCUSE* for EA and the rest of 'em to not do the same. True, one might argue that Friction "needs" to do something like this because they need to make a name for themselves, they need an "edge" that the big studios just don't need to bother with, but it does not alter the fact that Linux *can* support great games. Most likely, we will see an influx soon (which is about bloody time, really).
Kudos to Friction and a friendly nod to my brothers across the strait. I wasn't aware the Copenhagen Post went back that far ;-) (hi San!).
Recently?...no (Score:2)
Personally what I really miss, and sometimes what I feel Penumbra is trying to be, is basically a 3D sneaker, and fantasies of Thief 4 being awesome pop into my head. Not sure if there will be a Linux v
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Not too late (Score:1)
Missed the weekend $5 deal, but bought it today and it was still only $10 for the 3in1 Linux collection...
Re:So... (Score:4, Funny)
It helps if you stop punching the monitor.
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Unfortunately that's an unavoidable consequence of running Linux.
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Fortunately, It's easier on the wallet than the results of running Windows [youtube.com]!
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Yet I have been using Linux since 1994 and I found there are hardware problems, on most systems actually. I started to see them when I stopped becoming a Linux Zealot. I use the big 3 OS's (Linux, OS X, Windows) almost on a daily basis. They all have their pluses and minuses. One of Linux's minus is it lacks quality handling of modern video cards, hence not making it good for games, heck it barely runs the Windows managers when you want some of the modern effects on your system... I am sorry but I like a
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Uh, even my 8600M GT can handle most graphic effects in a stunning fashion if not amazing. I don't know what you're talking about but both Nvidia and ATI cards are handled pretty darn well on Linux nowadays.
People even use it for gaming! [eveonline.com].
Maybe you should try running Linux. It's clear you aren't currently.
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nVidia officially supports its cards under Linux. No, I do not like that is is proprietary. (Because) Yes, it does make X slightly unstable. But the graphics card is completely supported. And fast.
As for translucent terminals: use konsole (in KDE4). Set "background transparency" to, say, 25%. Actually, do not. Any serious use of the terminal is negatively impacted by seeing text underneath your own text. KDE 4 has more eye candy than a 6-year old after Halloween. There are things to bitch about Linux, but
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I've used GeForces under Linux since 2002 - several card models on several successive machines. I've never had this problem.
Perhaps you should consider that you may, possibly, have a hardware problem, that is just more exposed under Linux?
Don't be so quick to blame the OS. How many systems have you had this problem on?
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I've not much use for Linux in my every day life, but I've used it enough on multiple hardware platforms, both stationary and mobile, and neither of them had any problems with rendering graphics.
The HDMI output on my laptop does not work at all under Linux (Quadro 2700M.) And I can't do dual-display without my system actually failing to bring up X if I don't have the external display connected.
Graphics and sound are in fact the two places where Linux falls on its ass the hardest, and if you don't acknowledge these problems, you're living in denial. Maybe YOU haven't had problems with either, but both are common. Intel boned the graphics driver for my lady's laptop, too. I thought open source intel
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A few power user corner cases is not "falling on it's ass".
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I maybe fall into the 'power user' band as I sometimes use dual displays, but I certainly have had sound problems with both my MBP and my Dell mini 9 when running Ubuntu. Recently some update screwed up pulseaudio on my Mini 9 (sound kept stuttering every 30 seconds or so) so I've just removed it for now. General sound playback is working fine again, but for some reason the login sound now stutters instead. I'm willing to live with that since it's only once a day, but the sound situation on Linux is still a
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Pulseaudio should never have been. Don't blame Linux for Canonical's insistence that the horrible kluge called Pulseaudio is installed by default.
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What do you expect, after hammering it into the ground like that?