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Sony Announces PS3 Slim, Price Cut, Improvements To Home 427

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Sony's press conference today at the Gamescom convention was full of announcements. They officially revealed the PS3 Slim, which will be 36% lighter and 33% smaller than the normal PS3. It will come with a 120 GB hard drive and list for $299 when it hits retail stores in early September. Normal PS3s will drop to that price as well starting tomorrow. (Unfortunately for Sony, their unveiling was spoiled a bit by several retailers jumping the gun on new advertisements, not to mention the rumors that had been swirling for weeks ahead of time.) Sony also announced a PS3 firmware update as well as new features and customization options for Home. In addition to that, the PS3 and PSP will be getting a digital reader service. At launch it will bring access to Marvel comic books, and will expand from there. They didn't talk much about their upcoming motion control scheme, but promised more details next month at the Tokyo Game Show.
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Sony Announces PS3 Slim, Price Cut, Improvements To Home

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  • by 8127972 (73495) on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @01:48PM (#29109463)

    ..... If Sony restored backward compatibility with PS2 games. That and not the price nor the size of the console is why I haven't bought one yet.

    • by Microlith (54737) on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @01:51PM (#29109503)

      Considering that PS2s are still selling (strangely) well and getting new game releases, it's unlikely Sony will restore BC (even if only software emulation) to the PS3 platform. We'll probably see it return around the time they EOL the PS2 platform completely (once the PS3's successor is out.)

      Although I'm not sure that holds water, at least if they're still selling the PSOne, which I think they are...

      • by halcyon1234 (834388) <halcyon1234@hotmail.com> on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @02:28PM (#29110035) Journal

        We'll probably see it return around the time they EOL the PS2 platform completely

        I doubt it. I'd love to be able to play my PS2 games on the PS3, but I know it'll never happen. Not when they can "sell" the same games through the PS Store and get another $10-$20 out of people who have already bought the games.

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by Chris Mattern (191822)

          Er...you can't buy PS2 games for non-compatible PS3s through the PS Store because the lack of PS2 compatibility means you can't play them. You can buy PSX games through the PS Store, but you can also play PSX games right from the disc (if you still have your old copy) on *any* PS3. The real gyp is that you can't play old PSX games on your PSP, because the PSP has no way to read the discs. For that, you really do have to buy them again from the PS Store.

          • by mrdoogee (1179081) on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @04:10PM (#29111501)

            There is a way to run a PS1 disc in your PS3 and stream it to your PSP over LAN/Internet.. .Location free player is the util, I believe. It does have (especially over the internet) some major latency issues though.

      • by King_TJ (85913) on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @02:33PM (#29110097) Journal

        It only seems strange that the PS2 is still selling so well, until you realize that the PS3 really isn't "standard def. TV friendly".... I know quite a few people who play games on their PS2, and bought replacements when their old unit broke/wore out, but have no real interest in a PS3, simply because they're still using a large-ish tube type standard-def TV as their main television set. (If you have cable or satellite, you really have no need to replace it, after all.)

        My experience with using a PS3 in standard def resolution was eye-strain inducing, trying to read many of the text fonts the games would display.

        There's a pretty big ratio of PS3 owners who coupled the purchase with a new plasma or LCD TV .... partially because they wanted a Blu-Ray player for that fancy new set, but realistically, it's practically a requirement to enjoy many of the game titles too.

        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          by BassMan449 (1356143)
          360 is the same way. It looks beautiful on a decent size HDTV, but developer seem to still not realized that not everyone has a 720p or better TV. On my old 26" tube most text outside of the main menus was completely unreadable for most 360 games.
        • My experience with using a PS3 in standard def resolution was eye-strain inducing, trying to read many of the text fonts the games would display.

          This was precisely my experience before I bought a HD capable monitor. Next gen games are quite simply unplayable on anything less than 720p.

          However, the big problem here is that Last gen games are unplayable at anything above 576p! OK slight exaggeration, but old games do look awful on a HD TV. Aliasing everywhere. And therein lies the biggest reason that Sony and Microsoft need to keep up backwards compatibility. I can tell you that PS2 games played on a PS3 instead of a PS2 look a hell of a lot better. It's like night and day. Add to this the convienicen factor, and I'm pretty irritated with Sony for dropping this feature and refusing to reimplement it. There are still loads of fantastic PS2 titles I haven't played, and more are still coming out!

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by Hatta (162192) *

            So keep an old CRT around. They're cheap, and you need one to play Duck Hunt anyway.

        • by harl (84412)

          Amen. I had the same problem with the 360 and a tube television. The text in some games was unreadable. Dead Rising I'm looking at you.

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by Talderas (1212466)

          The problem exists with XBox 360 as well, Dead Rising was a PITA to read text on.

          However this is indeed an issue. I couldn't read most test for GTA4, my minimap in Dynasty Warriors 6 was fuzzy and practically useless. I had to pause to look at the largest battlefield map to get an idea of what was going on. A lot of things became a lot cleared when I went to a HDTV.

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by iamhassi (659463)
          "PS3 really isn't "standard def. TV friendly".... My experience with using a PS3 in standard def resolution was eye-strain inducing, trying to read many of the text fonts the games would display."

          I use a ps3 on a 5 yr old reasonably-sized SDTV and you couldn't be more correct. It is a HUGE pain to try to play any games with small print. PixelJunk Monsters [gamespot.com] is almost not playable because your character is too small to see, and you can forget trying to read any subtitles or instructions. I keep looking f
      • by dangitman (862676)

        Considering that PS2s are still selling (strangely) well and getting new game releases, it's unlikely Sony will restore BC (even if only software emulation) to the PS3 platform.

        That still doesn't make business sense. Wouldn't they want people to migrate to the PS3? A PS3 sale is worth a lot more to Sony than a PS2 sale - what with the extra profits from the Playstation Store, higher-priced games, and royalties from Blu-Ray movie sales. Besides, if that was the logic, why did the original PS3 have PS2 compatibility at launch?

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by space_jake (687452)
      Just seems like they are shooting themselves in the foot by not offering backwards compatibility with the PS2. The PS2 has a huge library and dominated the console market for its generation.
      • by geminidomino (614729) * on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @01:56PM (#29109573) Journal

        Just seems like they are shooting themselves in the foot by not offering backwards compatibility with the PS2. The PS2 has a huge library and dominated the console market for its generation.

        They did on the early models. They yanked it out of a later revision (a month before I was going to buy one, amusingly enough).

        • by Xtravar (725372) on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @01:59PM (#29109629) Homepage Journal

          Find a used CECHA01 (that's the serial number that has hardware backward compatibility).

          Yes, I now own two PS3's. The CECHA01 runs a little hotter and slightly noisier, but I mostly fixed that by changing the thermal paste on it - heck, the warranty was void anyway.

          ZOMG NERD ALERT!!

          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            by Nursie (632944)

            I've got one of the ones with hardware back-compat.

            Unfortunately I bought it in the far east and live in Europe.

            So it won't play any of *my* old games library. Damn them.

          • by Aggrajag (716041)
            There are a lot of CECHA01's available on ebay, prices start from $400.
            • by Xtravar (725372)

              Ya, I bought mine when live.com offered 25% cash back on 'buy it now' ebay purchases. Win!

              BTW - The PS2 card reader for PS3 doesn't work on 16MB cards. You need to transfer saved games to an 8MB card on a PS2, if you intend on using old saves.

              • I can confirm this. The card reader won't read any card larger than 8MB at all... I've seen 16,32, and 64MB in stores.

    • by Mad Leper (670146) on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @02:03PM (#29109677)

      Sony will however sell you a PS2 compatibility kit to go with your PS3. It's 100% compatible with all PS2 games and even comes with an original PS2 controller.

      • by mattack2 (1165421)

        Obviously you're joking, but having two separate consoles would be easier if they (1) took one power plug(*), (2) took one input on the TV/receiver.

        Personally, the lack of backward compatibility is the major reason I haven't even thought of buying a PS3.. though admittedly, I don't get *tons* of games for my PS2, and even then, they're basically always $20 games. (Though I do tend to buy as many as I can new, and not on ebay.) Even software backward compatibility, with a list of games they KNOW have majo

      • Sony will however sell you a PS2 compatibility kit to go with your PS3. It's 100% compatible with all PS2 games and even comes with an original PS2 controller.

        I made this same point in a recent article, but somebody pointed out the following reasons why just buying a PlayStation 2 console is not perfect:

        1. Extra set of cables to the TV.
        2. It comes with only one controller, and multiplayer games don't work with his existing collection of Sixaxis/Dual Shock 3 controllers, even though it has a USB port on the front.
        3. It doesn't have anything like the virtual memory cards of the PS3's PS1 emulation and the early PS3's PS2 emulation. Apparently people like to play sim games
    • by greg1104 (461138)

      Backward compatibility costs Sony significant development resources for a feature that only impacts a small number of people. The real diehards all bought the early PS3 models that had support for PS2 games. While vocal, the people who are still left waiting backward compatibility but not willing to pay for it in the past are a tiny number, and I can't imagine any scenario where Sony starts caring about you. Like those of us who wanted a PS3 when they played SACDs, a feature cut in the same period as bac

    • by eln (21727)
      PS2 compatibility means nothing to me, but then I don't have a huge library of PS2 games, and games from that era now look so terribly dated by today's standards that they're hardly worth buying even at used prices.

      I do, however, really dig the idea that the XBox 360 can be used to play Netflix instant play movies on the TV (although it requires an XBox Live account). If PS3 had that as well, I'd buy the PS3 over the 360 in a heartbeat now that they're basically price compatible. As it is, though, I'm
      • Penny Arcade covered this. PlayOn will give you Hulu and Netflix access on your PS3. You have to pay a one-time charge for PlayOn, but that is cheaper than 4 months of XBox Live.

    • For me it was the price, I could care less about the backwards compatibility, it was convenient for sure. I still have a perfectly good PS2 that I still use. The initial buy in price was to steep for the majority of their target audience, especially when you could get the same title on the 360. Sure you can argue the PS3 has better graphics, but truthfully graphics aren't everything.
    • The BC was sketchy at best and several games suffered performance issues or didnt run at all. Because the PS2 proccessor was actually incorporated into the PCB it caused some performace issues for PS3 games as well. software emulation would be nice but personally i think the PS3 would need more RAM to effectively due this without any noticeable performance issues. i actually waited until the BC was removed to buy mine for this reason. you can pick up a used PS2 from Game Stop for $60.

    • by moon3 (1530265)
      Well XBox 360 runs old Xbox titles with no problem now (most of them).
    • Sony is retarded for removing backwards compatibility. It's the only one of the 3 consoles where the developer got the bright idea to remove features.

      I bought a PS3 last year since I wanted to play Metal Gear, but I also wanted to get rid of my PS2 (DDR is still played on occasion).

      You can still find them on Craiglist/etc. Be sure to look for the 60 GB one as it's the only one that has it in hardware.

      (But it's not as good as Nintendo's. You have to buy a memory card converter to actually get save games

    • by Talderas (1212466)

      To be honest, I don't know the time frame of when or what versions had PS2/PS1 compatability. I've heard a lot of things like the 40GB versions didn't have it while the 60 and 80GB versions did. All I know is that I bought an 80GB PS3 in a Metal Gear Solid 4 bundle and I haven't run into any problems playing PS2 or PS1 games on the PS3, aside from the graphics on PS1 games being terrible. I actually think FFXII looks better from the PS3 compared to the PS2....

  • No Linux Support? (Score:4, Informative)

    by alphan (774661) on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @01:48PM (#29109467) Homepage

    "Removal of 'Install Other OS' feature

    The new PS3 system will focus on delivering games and other entertainment content, and users will not be able to install other Operating Systems to the new PS3 system."
    http://www.scee.presscentre.com/Content/Detail.asp?ReleaseID=4842&NewsAreaID=2 [presscentre.com]

    Sony abandoning Linux on new skus means they are effectively doing the same for the old ones.

    Epic failure.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by ivan256 (17499)

      Sony abandoning Linux on new skus means they are effectively doing the same for the old ones.

      Explain.

      To me it says "we used slightly different controllers and peripherals, and don't feel like investing the time to port the drivers and such to a new linux kit".

      I didn't see the bit where they said they were making it stop working on my existing device.

      • by alphan (774661)

        It will continue to work, but now that it's officially a dead product there is little point in investing in it.

      • by Microlith (54737) on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @01:58PM (#29109613)

        They'll make it stop working on your existing device by simply removing the option to install when the update comes down the pipe. I doubt there's any real technical reason for dropping it, other than some beancounter deciding that the loss of respect from technical users was less costly than the upkeep for the hypervisor (assuming they remove it.)

        Assuming they don't, you'll be able to keep what you have on there, but not reinstall or do a new install. Which is a huge amount of ass considering how much work was done by the open source community to port things to the PS3 including kernel patches and various GCC ports and additions for the SPUs. All of that is now wasted, even on older consoles unless you never, ever let them contact PSN.

        • Re:No Linux Support? (Score:4, Informative)

          by ivan256 (17499) on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @02:07PM (#29109743)

          No doubt they *can* make it stop working on my existing PS3 if I choose to install their update. But it doesn't say anywhere that they are planning to remove it. I highly doubt they are, since the cost of maintenance on leaving it there is zero.

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      Couldn't you have waited for someone to say "but does it run Linux?" before posting? ;)

      Seriously, though, that's rather annoying. I wonder why.

    • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

      by dunezone (899268)
      They lost my purchase.

      This morning as I started to see news feeds coming in that the price was being dropped to $300, a reasonable price for somethign that primarily would be used a blu-ray player. I was willing to purchase since there were some other areas I could explore in the system, including installing outside operating systems. The fact that this was something I could do with the system and now the fact that Sony can retroactively remove it, is not worth my time or my money.
      • The 'fat' PS3's price is being cut to $299 and it retains the "OtherOS" feature. The press releases says "users will not be able to install other Operating Systems to the new PS3 system" [emphasis added]. (It's also not clear yet how hard it'll be to upgrade the HD in the 'slim' model, if it's possible at all.)

        I've got Linux on mine, but I haven't had a chance to use it much. The annoying thing is that there's no real equivalent to a bootloader. If you set it to boot Linux, it will always boot to Linux un

        • The 'fat' PS3's price is being cut to $299 and it retains the "OtherOS" feature.

          But how long will the 'fat' PS3 continued to be manufactured?

        • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

          At least the removal of the easy Linux functionality will spur developers to look for more "complete" paths to develop for PS3 systems.
      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Mad Leper (670146)

        The install other OS option was utterly useless, only one cell was supported and you had no access to any of the advanced hardware. No reason for Sony to continue to support a feature that was used by only a very tiny fraction of PS3 owners.

        People who pick this above all others as a reason not to buy a PS3 are just being petulant.

    • by Turken (139591) on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @02:00PM (#29109633)

      I would assume that the loss of Linux support is likely due to not bothering to accommodate for the large changes in hardware under the hood. If their research shows that not enough people are using a feature make it worth developing and supporting, why should they waste resources on that feature? Of course, by that logic, then Home should have dies a long time ago too...

      At any rate, it shouldn't take too long for unofficial workarounds to show up.

      • by lymond01 (314120)

        If their research shows that not enough people are using a feature make it worth developing and supporting, why should they waste resources on that feature?

        They would do it for the Slashdot. Wouldn't you?

      • It's a shame though, as I only started playing around with cell programming on an older spare PS/3. The power core + multiple SPU approach is interesting. The only hardware alternative for cell is the super expensive QS22 blades from IBM which cuts out most educational and hobby use. You would think that IBM and Sony would want to maintain interest and training on this architecture to help justify further development. A cheap $299 box is a good way to do this. Maybe they will add the Other OS feature back i

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by hattig (47930)

      The internal design architecture of the new PS3 system, from the main semiconductors and power supply unit to the cooling mechanism, has been completely redesigned, achieving a much slimmer and lighter body. Compared to the very first PS3 model with 60GB HDD, the internal volume as well as its thickness and weight are trimmed down to approximately two-thirds. Furthermore, power consumption is also cut to two-thirds, helping to reduce fan noise.

      So: Still has internal PSU (my major worry), but isn't as great a size reducation as say the shrink from the PS2 to the PS2 Slim. Sounds like more chips are 45nm than before. Obviously there was a circuit board redesign. One major fail is not having a USB port on the back for PlayTV.

      Even quieter fan noise will be a nice feature for movie watchers, not that it is a major issue now.

      And the price is very competitive with the 360. Price drop here coming soon I presume! Otherwise there's even less reason to get

    • by rAiNsT0rm (877553)

      Gah! No one else mentioned this yet... major bummer. Now if I could just get real data on the new power draw of the slim.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by timster (32400)

      Not really surprising... they used the same pattern with the PS2. Announce during the pre-release hype that there will be Linux, and you get a bunch of pundits and gullible geeks talking about how it's going to be taking over from the Real Computer. The actual possibilities with the Linux kit end up limited and forgotten, little more than a technical curiosity.

      When the hardware gets updated later on, the Linux kit doesn't as it was only part of the pre-release marketing process. Expect the same thing wit

    • by KnownIssues (1612961) on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @02:13PM (#29109821)
      I never realized how badly I wanted to be able to install another operating system on my PS3 until I found out I wouldn't be able to.
    • Re:No Linux Support? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by marcansoft (727665) <hector@nOsPam.marcansoft.com> on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @09:24PM (#29114121) Homepage

      My prediction:

      - The PS3 slim will be hacked. Now that there is no Other OS support, there is the same incentive as there has been for running homebrew on every other console.
      - Said hacks will be used for warez, probably by people other than those who developed the hacks.

      Linux hackers tend to be much more successful at system reverse engineering and exploitation than the kids who want warez. This is why Other OS is a Good Thing for Sony: it removes the incentive to bypass their security for a lot of people. By removing this option, they're setting themselves to have their security broken. And we all know how long it takes for "other" people to use these hacks for less than legal purposes (I learned this the hard way).

      I firmly believe Other OS is one of the main reasons why there is no PS3 software piracy so far. Check out this table [marcansoft.com] from our 25C3 presentation.

  • According to the BBC [bbc.co.uk] the UK price is amazingly £250 or about US$413. Which is a ripoff. At this price there is no way that I would consider buying one.

    • by Xest (935314)

      Yeah, that's a big deal to me, especially as I only paid £229.99 for my Xbox 360 back in August 2006. I want a PS3 because I'm dying to play Killzone more than anything, but I just can't justify paying more for a console of the same generation now, than I did 3 years ago. This late in the generation consoles needs to be sub-£200 IMO.

      To be fair on Sony, that's what the price point is in North America - £180, which is the same as the Wii at £179.99 whilst the 360 for the premium model

  • There have been one or two games I'd like to play that are on the PS3 only, but they are some coming that I'd really like to play (God of War 3, possibly FF XIII, I know there are others). I didn't want to spend $400 for a game or two. Having the price down to $300 helps.

    Of course I'm not going to jump at it yet. I'll wait for the inevitable God of War III bundle.

  • by _xeno_ (155264) on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @02:19PM (#29109903) Homepage Journal

    So, new changes coming to Home. More customization options. More places. Neat, I guess.

    Except for the part where they apparently think people are willing to pay $0.29 for a pair of shoes that no one is going to see. Likewise the $5 to buy a new "personal apartment" that basically no one except yourself is ever going to see. (Sure, you can invite friends over to your virtual apartment but, really, how much is it worth to have your virtual self live in the Ghostbusters station?)

    Not to mention the charges on logo-ed shirts. I can't remember prices, but I think those were in the $0.50-$1 range. So I'm expected to pay money to be a walking virtual advertisement. Sure...

    If the Home avatars had any use outside of Home (like the Miis and the Xbox Live Avatars) I could almost see the more pathetic fanboys paying money to dress them up in a T-shirt with a Ghostbuster logo on it. But $0.50 for a virtual shirt that can only be seen in a single virtual space in which there is essentially nothing to do? Please!

    Last time I checked (which was a month ago, so not terribly long ago) PlayStation Home was still just like this Penny Arcade cartoon [penny-arcade.com]. The only difference I found from the beta last year is that the stores now actually sell something rather than being completely empty.

    • by Sinbios (852437)

      Don't like it? Don't buy it. What's the problem?

      • by _xeno_ (155264)

        It's not a problem, so much, as it is a question of whether the new Home content is actually going to be worth anything or if it's all going to be worthless options locked behind a pay wall.

        The article says that Home will be getting "new character customization options" - are we expected to pay for these? Since they're currently charging money for the current "character customization options" in the forms of virtual clothing, it seems quite likely that these new options may simply be more paid clothing.

        Like

      • by MaWeiTao (908546)

        Well, if Sony wanted to entice people to actually participate in Home they'd make that sort of thing free.

        And secondly, it's the principle of the thing. Companies only take advantage because people allow them to do so. If consumers formed a united front and took at stand against this sort of nonsense a lot more DLC would be free. It's one think when they're offering a substantial add-on to a game and another thing altogether when it's some costume piece.

        I also don't understand how anyone could tolerate payi

      • by geekoid (135745)

        Who said there was a [problem? what is it with you people who pull out this bullshit when people are just discussing what they don't like about a game?

        Ironic, considering your sig.

    • by gEvil (beta) (945888) on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @03:11PM (#29110665)
      Not to mention the charges on logo-ed shirts. I can't remember prices, but I think those were in the $0.50-$1 range. So I'm expected to pay money to be a walking virtual advertisement. Sure...

      Hell, people pay 20-30 bucks (and more) all the time to be walking real-life advertisements.
    • I agree. What I think they should do is offer those items as accomplishments for in game goals, and have a place to shoe them off. Use the peple desire to collect and show off stuff to sell games.

      Shocking, I know.

  • Firmware 3.0 (Score:5, Interesting)

    by CopaceticOpus (965603) on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @02:43PM (#29110267)
    The new firmware is designed to help Sony advertise, and does almost nothing that PS3 owners actually want.

    New Features:

    • "What's New" screen (ads for Sony products, links to Sony store)
    • Sony store now appears in several menus instead of just one.
    • New animated themes that you can buy.
    • New avatars, some of which are for sale. (Yes, they're really going to charge you to put a little picture of Sonic next to your username.)

    Things People Actually Want:

    • PS2 Compatibility
    • Better video support, especially MKV files. (Yes, you can convert MKV files to be playable. No, I don't think that's good enough.)
    • Ability to play media files over a Windows/Samba share, rather than having to use media server software.
    • Ability to backup the PS3 over a LAN automatically.
    • Less klunky web browsing
    • 1080i support for more games. (Since some TVs are 1080/480 only, and downgrade 720 down to 480.)

    Thanks a bunch, Sony.

    • by DarkEdgeX (212110)

      Whenever they update their Divx support the MKV support should be included (since the new Divx uses MKV files).

      As for the rest, agreed. The web browser should just use some custom build of Firefox, and the PS2 backwards compatibility would help bring in the people who want to keep playing their existing PS2 games.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by MaWeiTao (908546)

      "What's New" screen (ads for Sony products, links to Sony store)

      The What's New screen has always been there.

      Sony store now appears in several menus instead of just one.

      I'm not sure what you mean by this as I haven't read anything about it, but the Store is already exceedingly easy to access.

      New animated themes that you can buy.

      Themes have always been for sale as well although there are a decent number which are free. In my opinion, however, at least 95% of them are amateurish garbage. I'm not sure how the c

    • by DrXym (126579)
      Things People Actually Want: * PS2 Compatibility

      Who says it won't return in some form? But if it means that much to you, go buy a PS3 second hand containing it. Or just keep your PS2.

      * Better video support, especially MKV files. (Yes, you can convert MKV files to be playable. No, I don't think that's good enough.)

      The PS3 already plays MPEG2, ASP, AVC and VC-1 media from a variety of containers, from local storage and remote. It probably has the best multimedia support of any console. Yes MKV would

  • by Orion Blastar (457579) <orionblastar&gmail,com> on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @02:44PM (#29110287) Homepage Journal

    I want to be able to do more than read Comic Books with a reader program. I want to be able to read PDF, ODF, RTF, HTML, CHM, and other formats that eBooks come in.

    If I buy a PSP or Slim PS3, I want an educational value for it as well as a gaming one. I want more than a Language Tutor program or BrainAge, I want to be able to read eBooks as well.

    I am sticking to a PS2 because the PS3 price is too high and they took away backwards compatibility with PS2 games on most PS3 models. I might as well buy a Wii because it runs GameCube games, or an XBox 360 with a hard drive that can run XBox games. Sony really needs to learn a lesson here to run legacy software like the others, or risk losing these console wars.

    No more Rootkits either, ok? Sony we are sick of them.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      I want to be able to do more than read Comic Books with a reader program. I want to be able to read PDF, ODF, RTF, HTML, CHM, and other formats that eBooks come in.

      If I buy a PSP or Slim PS3, I want an educational value for it as well as a gaming one. I want more than a Language Tutor program or BrainAge, I want to be able to read eBooks as well.

      I am sticking to a PS2...

      last i checked the PS2 has none of those features. if you're serious about using a gaming console for education i actually think the PS3 is about as close as you'll get. in addition to the obvious of being able to teach somebody the basics of running linux from the command line, since its the only console with a blu ray you can get the blue planet series on BD its an incredible documentary that is full of education.

  • by gEvil (beta) (945888) on Tuesday August 18, 2009 @02:52PM (#29110401)
    Sure, the PS3 Slim is nice. But what I find interesting is the PSP Digital Reader Service. The (very brief) article mentions that Sony is teasing about extending it beyond comics by the end of the year. Not coincidentally, that's also when they plan to have their eBookstore migrated over to the ePub format. [slashdot.org] Considering the iPhone/iPod Touch are among the most used digital book-reading devices, and the PSP has a screen resolution that's similar, this could be a very wise move. Assuming this actually happens, you'll also have the ability to buy new releases directly from the PSP using WiFi (something that many people are wishing for in a new Sony eBook reader). Interesting times ahead...

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