Tofu Activists Spoof Meat-Based Indie Game 420
Faulkner39 writes "In response to the recently released independently developed platformer Super Meat Boy, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) has released a Flash-based spoof game titled Super Tofu Boy. The spoof attempts to mirror the original by featuring a protagonist made of tofu and an antagonist made of meat in a statement promoting animal rights. Ironically, however, the original game is about a human boy who is vulnerable because he lacks skin (Meat Boy), raising the question: 'is the spoof in reality really about cannibalism?'"
The Super Meat Boy team posted a response on their Twitter feed.
Streisand effect (Score:4, Informative)
I had never heard of Super Meat Boy.
Re:Streisand effect (Score:5, Insightful)
That's wht the PETA spoof is so important for them. On their site [supermeatboy.com] they explain how they've been trolling the PETA forums, hoping for this to happen. Apparently with success. It's a weird kind of PR, but it works, because now you've heard of Super Meat Boy. Thanks to trolling, PETA and Slashdot.
Re:Streisand effect (Score:5, Insightful)
It's a weird kind of PR, but it works, because now you've heard of Super Meat Boy. Thanks to trolling, PETA and Slashdot.
I am feeling I am becoming too old for this century...
And I am not even 30...
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Now if this present observation gets labeled funny it will be depressing...
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That is the way I feel about shooters. It really seems every shooter is just a clone of every other shooter on the planet. I find greater variety in the platformer genre. But to each their own.
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Re:Streisand effect (Score:2)
So it's an N clone instead?
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No, but this game isn't either.
I feel about PETA like PETA seems to feel about me (Score:5, Funny)
They offer downloads for PC and Mac. What, no Linux version? You mean I have to play the version on the website to play in Linux?
If they won't give me Linux Tofu Boy, then I have absolutely no incentive to cease my consumption of meat. Clearly, they don't care about me, so I will continue to not care about them.
I should go have a double down or something later....
PETA (Score:4, Insightful)
You know, maybe they could have spent some of that development money on outreach for their shelters, so that they wouldn't have to kill 86% of the animals they shelter.
But no, I guess making video games, stockpiling red paint, and placing ads of naked hippies should really come first.
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You know, maybe they could have spent some of that development money on outreach for their shelters, so that they wouldn't have to kill 86% of the animals they shelter.
Instead they spent in on a campaign for livestock, 100% of which are killed. PETA don't consider livestock inferior to pets, or any less deserving of ethical treatment.
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And they have pretty much zero effect there. Why? Because they alienate people with combativeness. They get attention because people love to hate them. And they seem completely oblivious to that fact.
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I think they have it backwards then. They could start by showing proper stewardship of their own animals. PETA putting down 90% of the animals they take in is rank hypocrisy especially when that's triple the rate of a non-PETA shelter. "Do as I say and not as I do" is just not the way to run an advocacy program. If they trail the industry in pet treatment, why should anyone listen to them on the treatment of any other kind of animal?
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I got sent this on twitter today:
How many Peta members does it take to change a lightbulb?.... None, Peta can't change anything.
http://twitter.com/#!/SuperMeatBoy [twitter.com]
Apparently people are saying that Super Tofu boy cost more to make than super meat boy.
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And for that reason alone I completely support PETA. (NSFW [nakedprotesters.com] probably NSFW [petaasiapacific.com])
Re:PETA (Score:5, Interesting)
The problem is that PETA don't think *any* animals should be domesticated, so mostly they don't even bother to try to rehome animals.
Quite often they don't bother to find out if they're abandoned or unwanted - a couple of years ago two PETA activists were arrested for basically trapping cats and dogs (and indeed, going into people's gardens to catch them) and killing them. They claimed that the animals were "abandoned" or "strays", but couldn't offer any convincing reason for thinking they were. They weren't interested in animal welfare, they just liked stealing then torturing and killing people's pets.
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Re:PETA (Score:5, Funny)
Don't you see man! It's like slavery! thinking you can "own" an animal.
We can't "own" our animal equals!
keeping a pet is so like exactly the same as slavery!
or something absurd like that.
either way everyone knows: dogs have owners, cats have staff.
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I hate to think what horses have. If they're so badly treated then think about this - who gets up at 6am to go out in the snow and bring who their breakfast?
And yes, you don't "own" a cat, they just come and live with you.
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We can't "own" our animal equals!
I can, but that's because I'm not a penniless hippie.
Re:PETA (Score:5, Insightful)
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What exactly is wrong with an animal having a caring owner, someone to trust to, a warm home, no need to be afraid of predators, and not having to get cold and sometimes go days without food?
I'm all for animal rights, but PETA is just insane. I don't see anything wrong with letting an animal live in your house and taking care of it.
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That's one thing I've never understood. What exactly is wrong with an animal having a caring owner, someone to trust to, a warm home, no need to be afraid of predators, and not having to get cold and sometimes go days without food?
Nothing at all. And I'm vegan.
In fact, this is probably a good time to point out that not all vegans think the PETA people have their heads on straight. Just because I don't want to contribute to the cruelty that happens in factory farms doesn't mean I think animals should have the right to vote or whatever.
Re:PETA (Score:4, Interesting)
It's not so much that I am against their ideals. I just can't stand f**ing hypocrites.
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It's not so much that I am against their ideals. I just can't stand f**ing hypocrites.
Bah. Hypocrisy is everywhere. What bugs me is that they somehow think that they know what is ethical in the first place. Who are they to decide that it is wrong for an animal to suffer? Seeing a suffering animal invokes feelings of sadness, horror, and disgust in most people (or in me at least) and they want to see it stop, but that's just how our brains are programed and it doesn't make it wrong. There have been studies that show that people who enjoy inflicting cruelty on an animal are more likely to grow
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Moral relativism is a black hole. Besides which, you can't win an argument with it, you can only refuse to accept an argument on the grounds that it's as invalid as any other argument.
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yes but at the same time there's part of a point there.
namely:
*who the hell are you to decide if my life isn't worth living*
Or in the case of animals you can't communicate with- killing them can be more about what you want and what you feel than about what the animals wants or feel.
It makes you feel better to no longer see it suffering, the animal on the other hand may be quite determined to keep living.
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It makes you feel better to no longer see it suffering, the animal on the other hand may be quite determined to keep living.
They have to restrain a healthy animal to put it down for a reason. I think few of us have seen an animal that realizes it's time to die and doesn't resist any more because of our "civilized" (read: city-dwelling) experience. The animals get whisked away to the hospital to be put down.
A man should shoot his own dog. And while we're talking about eating meat, I think that anyone who wants to eat meat should have to participate in the slaughtering, dressing, cooking, and eating of an animal in sequence, or ta
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And while we're talking about eating meat, I think that anyone who wants to eat meat should have to participate in the slaughtering, dressing, cooking, and eating of an animal in sequence, or take a full tour of a feedlot and slaughterhouse, in order to get a license to be permitted to eat meat.
I think that we should just use our supposedly intelligent minds (at this point, I'm doubting that though) to perfect in vitro meat [wikipedia.org] so that no animals will have to suffer that way any longer to get meat.
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I think that we should just use our supposedly intelligent minds (at this point, I'm doubting that though) to perfect in vitro meat so that no animals will have to suffer that way any longer to get meat.
Who says they have to suffer? Feedlots are unnecessary, they're simply cost-effective.
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Well, they (or at least fewer of them) would have to die if we perfected in vitro meat. Suffering or not, pointless deaths should be prevented.
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Suffering or not, pointless deaths should be prevented.
Why?
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Why? It's because I think they should. How about you? Why not? Is my opinion really so hard to grasp?
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Why? It's because I think they should. How about you? Why not? Is my opinion really so hard to grasp?
It's inconsistent. We've now gone from logistics to religion. I asked a question and you got defensive. HTH, HAND.
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It's inconsistent.
It would be nice if you could explain what you're talking about so that I wouldn't have to continually ask what it is you're talking about (but apparently that's being defensive). So, I'll just ask: how is my opinion inconsistent?
I asked a question and you got defensive
You're confusing getting defensive with asking a few questions.
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I think that we should just use our supposedly intelligent minds (at this point, I'm doubting that though) to perfect in vitro meat [wikipedia.org] so that no animals will have to suffer that way any longer to get meat.
Please give me a reason for this. Why should I care? (BTW, I have reasons from my own belief system as to why I should care about animal suffering, however, most slashdotters who express your type of opinion reject my belief system and fail to replace it with one that gives any logically consistent reason as to why I should care about the suffering of others).
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Why should I care?
Did I say that you should?
most slashdotters who express your type of opinion reject my belief system and fail to replace it with one that gives any logically consistent reason as to why I should care about the suffering of others
My type of opinion? I could care less what you believe. Care or don't, but I'm going to continue believing what I believe. There are no absolute morals.
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couldn't care less*
That's annoying enough when I see other people saying that, let alone myself.
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So you think most people wouldn't do it, based on the last 50 years or so of eating processed meat, when we (as a species) have done it for millions of years? Do you believe we changed that much is such short time?
I don't, especially since there's still a large portion of the world which does still grow animals for food in their houses.
I'm not a particularly brave person and I'm a "fool for the city" in the words of Foghat, but helping my grandmother kill and prepate one of her chickens wasn't particularly
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Seriously though, I think we'd have a lot less meat eaters with such a system implemented, and that WOULD reduce environmental damage under other current systems.
Homo Sapiens existed for a couple hundred thousand years before animal domestication, in which time our ancestors at a LOT of meat that they had to kill and butcher themselves. While some present-day humans might have some initial squeamishness about killing what they eat, I think they'd get over it quickly. Our ancestors had to do it, why couldn't
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I think a reason that they *don't* offer tours is because they know damn well people wouldn't be inclined to eat meat if they knew about how it was made.
They're too greedy to let it happen, and too vicious to let folks like you get away with even suggesting it.
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I think you're over-estimating people's squeamishness.
I'm quite sure that I'm not. I've killed and eaten stuff, the last thing was a deer my lady ran into the fence and it killed its neck, I went out and slit its throat and it ended up in our oven and freezer. The first thing was a goose at Roaring Camp and Big Trees railroad, we lured it with popcorn and stuffed it in a burlap sack, took it off into the hills (away from the others) and chopped its head off with a hatchet. That doesn't mean that I think everyone wants to do the same. But there's really no way
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yes but at the same time there's part of a point there. namely: *who the hell are you to decide if my life isn't worth living*
With moral relativism, who are you to say I'm not to decide if your life isn't worth living? What difference does it make?
Re:PETA (Score:4, Interesting)
Moral relativism is fine so long as you remember two things:
Example: Westboro Baptist Church has every right in the world to believe their wacky shit. I have every right in the world to believe the world would be a better place if they were to all be raped, tortured, and then fed into a wood chipper. Neither of us has to give a happy damn about seeing things from the other's point of view.
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Bah. Hypocrisy is everywhere. ... Who are they to decide that it is wrong for an animal to suffer? ... Unless there is some sort of god above, I don't think there is any innate law of the universe that determines what is wrong and what is right, it's up to us to decide.
Outstanding example.
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Just because there isn't an absolute moral code, doesn't mean we can't act to defend ours.
By your POV, abolitionist should not have fought against slavery at a time when it was socially accepted, nor should I help you if you're getting robbed. After all, who's to say if the thieves are wrong?
I am a moral relativist, in the way that I don't believe there is an absolute moral code. But that doesn't mean I believe we shouldn't fight for what we think is right.
And no, I don't agree with PETA on what is right an
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I am a moral relativist, in the way that I don't believe there is an absolute moral code. But that doesn't mean I believe we shouldn't fight for what we think is right.
That's where you run into problems. Some people do think murder is right, some people do think rape is alright, some people do think slavery is right; according to your previous statement, you believe that they should fight for that, even if you personally find it repugnant.
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Well, yes. Which doesn't mean we should let them murder/rape/enslave. That's why we as a society have defined laws and enforce them. Which are not absolute, and do change with time. If they can convince most people that murder/rape/slavery is alright, then society's moral code will change to accept that, and anti-murder/rape/slavery people (in which I include myself) will become the "freedom fighters".
I don't find any logic inconsistencies in my position.
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If there is no absolute moral code, there is no such thing as "right" or "wrong", there is just what I prefer. Arguing about whether i
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Basically, you believe that, even though there is nothing inherently superior in your moral code, you should fight and kill people to prevent them from fighting and killing people in ways that violate your moral code.
Where did I say I want to kill people? I'm absolutely against killing people or any kind of death penalty. I'm also completely against preventive punishment.
I find such a moral code repugnant. You don't want to fight and kill people because your moral code is superior, but just because they don't follow your code.
I don't want to kill people, period.
When I say "fight", I'm not talking about violent means necessarily. It may simply mean expressing my personal opinion, or voting against a law, or whatever.
The dictionary definition of "fight" includes:
* fight against or resist strongly; "The senator said he would oppose the bill"; "Don't fight it!"
* competitiveness
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Unless there is some sort of god above, I don't think there is any innate law of the universe that determines what is wrong and what is right
Actually, even if there was a god, his views on what is 'right' or 'wrong' would only be his opinion, not fact.
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Unless there is some sort of god above, I don't think there is any innate law of the universe that determines what is wrong and what is right
Actually, even if there was a god, his views on what is 'right' or 'wrong' would only be his opinion, not fact.
I don't believe there is a god, but I think most religions operate on the basis of "His universe, His rules", and so if god existed according to that definition then his views on what is 'right' or 'wrong' are indeed fact. It would also mean that I'm going to hell, basically for the simple failing of not believing in him.
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His views would still only be an opinion, and not only that, but he sounds like a tyrant. Most religions seem to describe their god as some sort of evil tyrant who will make you suffer for all of eternity if you don't believe what he wants you to. Not a god worth worshiping, in my opinion.
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Actually, even if there was a god, his views on what is 'right' or 'wrong' would only be his opinion, not fact.
So, when your car manufacturer tells you that for best performance you should change the oil in your car on a regular basis, that is just their opinion, not fact? If you think your car will run just as well with no oil, there is no reason why you should put oil in it?
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What? What does this have to do with moral absolutes?
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When the car manufacturer says "you should change the oil in your car on a regular basis", it is an opinion.
When they say "your car's performance/condition will suffer if you don't change its oil on a regular basis", it's a fact.
Of course, when they say the former, they actually mean they latter, because it's assumed that if you bought a car, you want it to last and perform.
If the hypothetical god said "you should do X", it would be his/her/whatever opinion. If he/she/whatever said "if you don't do X, you'l
Re:PETA (Score:5, Funny)
I just can't stand f**ing hypocrites.
Dunno why not, they're just as good in the sack as everyone else.
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If a domesticated animal has been abandoned and unwanted, the most humane thing to do is end its suffering as quickly and painlessly as possible. Keeping it caged in hopes that someone will come and adopt it may feel nice, but it isn't in the animal's best interest.
It's still an interesting question who gets to determine when death is in your best interest.
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If a domesticated animal has been abandoned and unwanted, the most humane thing to do is end its suffering as quickly and painlessly as possible. Keeping it caged in hopes that someone will come and adopt it may feel nice, but it isn't in the animal's best interest.
It's still an interesting question who gets to determine when death is in your best interest.
Yeah, philosophically interesting question sure, but practically easy to answer: the one with the biggest gun gets to decide. Wether it's biggest antlers on a moose, or most comprehensive ICBM 2nd strike capability, it's the same story all over "animal kingdom".
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This is pretty much the party line that you get from them.
On the other hand, plenty of other organizations do have much, much higher adoption rates. To their credit.
I wonder if it's not just that PETA is quick with the needle, but that they'd still suffer from low adoption rates in their shelters, primarily because most people don't want to deal with PETA if they don't have to.
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If a domesticated animal has been abandoned and unwanted, the most humane thing to do is end its suffering as quickly and painlessly as possible.
And having done that, it seems like of a waste not to eat its meat, make clothes out of it's skin, and glue out of its tendons.
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I was actually thinking the same thing about humans. Instead of wasting land space and burying them, why not put their bodies to better use?
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Re:PETA (Score:5, Insightful)
Logic failure.. So what if we rounded up all the homeless people; it wouldn't be cruel to painlessly kill them too? I'm sure lots of homeless people wouldn't mind you killing them because you believe they are suffering just as I'm sure the cats and dogs that are homeless wouldn't mind too.
Before you start a debate about animal != human that's exactly what PETA is campaigning for. Rights for animals, so they're pretty much hypocrites.
I can see from your post however that you believe people or animals should be killed regardless of if they want to. I wonder how you will feel later on when you yourself are getting old and your own death squad is coming for you.
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and so the ethical situation is different.
Just because they don't know it's happening doesn't mean it isn't wrong (or right). I'm in favor of thinning out much of the human population as well.
We all know PETA is crazy (Score:4, Interesting)
They'll attempt to demonize any mention of carnivorous behavior, often without a complete grasp of what they are attacking-- as seen here. A boy with no skin must be countered with a lump of tofu? Obviously no one there actually played Super Meat Boy.
PETA can't rightfully preach about animal rights while euthanizing tens of thousands of unwanted pets every year. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Re:We all know PETA is crazy (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm also quite against PETA, they have a New Welfarist approach, I despise how they have Women pose and RE promoting Veganism, "screw the principle" http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/ingrid-newkirk-on-principled-veganism-screw-the-principle/ [abolitionistapproach.com]
"PETA can't rightfully preach about animal rights while euthanizing tens of thousands of unwanted pets every year. Hypocrisy at its finest.".
They can "preach" Animal Rights while also practising euthanasia you realise? Just as I love being alive, but were I to have Cancer such as others in my family, I could well imagine rather being dead, than to die slowly over the months. Now, I much prefer the idea of No Kill shelters, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-kill_shelter [wikipedia.org] , I dont know how practical they are in real life. I've had family members who've volunteered with the SPCA etc, I myself have no hands on experience of this kind.
I agree with practically NOTHING coming from PETA, I think it must obviously be wrong that they "put to sleep" so many animals each year.
However, please dont write off Animal Rights because of PETA's actions.
http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/ [abolitionistapproach.com] and these shows http://bit.ly/veganpodcastinfo [bit.ly] were useful for me.
I also promote Veganism through videos of my Chicken Friends (such as "A Day in the Life..." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj8gL8lj-Yg [youtube.com] ), and through my show http://coexistingwithnonhumananimals.blogspot.com/ [blogspot.com]
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As a Vegan, I'm always interested when these issues come up on my usual websites.
Hey, maybe you can give your personal opinion, if you've thought about it. What do you think should happen to animals that currently earn their living by being eaten by humans, like pigs? Should humans stop breeding them and let them go extinct? Should they be preserved in some kind of "domesticated animal zoos" in small numbers, so they could earn their upkeep by playing with kids or whatever? What should happen to them?
I personally find eating ethically raised animals just fine morally. The animal gets to
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Now, I much prefer the idea of No Kill shelters, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-kill_shelter [wikipedia.org] , I dont know how practical they are in real life.
No-kill shelters are good and all, but they generally only accept animals with a high probability of being adopted. A no-kill shelter isn't going to take the three-legged, one-eye pit bull with a history of attacking people. That dog is probably gonna end up in a high-kill shelter.
I don't know much about PETA's shelters other than they have a reputation for killing
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I need to preface this by saying that I have absolutely nothing against vegans, especially when their viewpoint is presented logically and clearly and calmly, as you have.
I have issues, however, when some vegans decide to claim the moral high ground over me, because I continue to eat meat. Let alone when they try to evangelise me. And I realize, baby with the bathwater. It's not fair to lump all vegans together in the same boat in the same way that it's not fair to lump all the Christians in the same boat:
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> PETA can't rightfully preach about animal rights while
> euthanizing tens of thousands of unwanted pets every
> year. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Not at all. Animal rights groups are strongly against the ownership of animals. Euthanizing instead of running an effective adoption program is actually seen as the lesser evil. They obviously don't connect those dots in their public fund raising materials...
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I think the point is that if you skip the "right to life", no other rights really matter*.
* Excepting, of course, the right of your descendants to profit from your copyrights for at least 50 years after your death, which will only rarely come into effect in the animal kingdom.
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> I think the point is that if you skip the
> "right to life", no other rights really matter*.
Nature doesn't recognize any "right to life". For the vast majority of creatures, it's more like "a right to live a short, nasty life constantly running and hiding in fear, only to die starving and/or screaming".
Animal rights see the "right to not be property" as implying a kind of "right to life". That is, if you stop treating them as property, then you can't just go around killing them on a whim. I guess tha
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Peta (Score:2, Interesting)
Vegetarians are a whole different and sad subspecies of humankind, they try to deny we've been eating meat from animals since many millions of years.
As a matter of fact we've become the creatures we are because we ate animals, for example there is strong evidence of a correlation in humanoids starting to eat seafood and a jump in intelligence that led to the making and use of tools.
What does eating meat add to you? (Score:3)
Well, it is a more concentrated form of protein, which leaves you more time from gathering roots and berries, to like, build stuff, like pyramids, dams, hospitals , a civilization and the like.
This guy had a good take at it all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Bronowski [wikipedia.org]
My girlfriend had a veggie book, that claimed that eating meat was against human instinct; "who would ever think of eating a nice, cuddly squirrel?"
I countered with a quote from Benjamin Franklin, "hunger never saw bad bread'.
Veggieism
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Well, it is a more concentrated form of protein, which leaves you more time from gathering roots and berries, to like, build stuff, like pyramids, dams, hospitals , a civilization and the like.
Well, not quite. The basis of all civilizations has been the ability to grain of some kind, which allows a few people to create a lot of food, to feed enough people to allow a division of labor and the creation of a class structure. It actually takes each member of a civilization much more labor to be able to feed the
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While I'm not a vegetarian, I find your argument invalid. There are plenty of examples of things we've done since many millions of years which are not socially acceptable anymore, at least in our society.
Appeal to tradition, also known as proof from tradition, appeal to common practice, argumentum ad antiquitatem, false induction, or the "is/ought" fallacy, is a common logical fallacy in which a thesis is deemed correct on the basis that it correlates with some past or present tradition. The appeal takes the form of "this is right because we've always done it this way."
An appeal to tradition essentially makes two assumptions:
* The old way of thinking was proven correct when introduced. In actuality this may be false -- the tradition might be entirely based on incorrect grounds.
* The past justifications for the tradition are still valid at present. In cases where circumstances have changed, this assumption may be false.
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it's not because they're doing it wrong
Yes, it is. If you don't want to do it the classic way and follow a strict diet to make sure you get eat a correct balance of protein/carb/fat and vitamins, minerals, and so on, there are always artificial substitutions for those.
Not that I'd recommend it, but in the 21st century everybody CAN be a vegan if they have the motivation. With a soy protein drink and some multi vitamin pills every day you can live reasonably healthy from nothing but french fries and ketchup.
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Tell that to the Japanese(sushi), or the Italians(carpacio) or the other multitude of groups that eat raw meat even to this day. We only find eating raw meat repugnant nowadays because we
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Not really. Genetics don't change that quickly. We've been eating meat for millions of years, and those dietary needs won't change. Most of the western world does eat a lot more meat than they need, but a healthy vegan needs supplements to make up for missing nutrients easily available in meat. Even more so for children.
Bunch of dicks (Score:5, Interesting)
No, not PETA, the developers of Super Meat Boy.
After hearing about this game I was curious as to whether a Linux version was available or in the works. I ended up at http://www.indiegames.com/blog/2010/10/indiegamescom_podcast_5_super.html [indiegames.com], and a commenter put a link to a podcast with the developers here: http://www.levelfortytwo.com/2009/12/talk-is-cheap-12-21-09/ [levelfortytwo.com]
The relevant bit starts at 43:55. Basically, they think that a Linux version would mean it would have to be open source, which obviously it doesn't. To quote one of the developers: "Linux can fuck off as far as I'm concerned." Gee, thanks. I don't mind if you're not going to bother making a port to Linux, but to not even bother to understand what people are asking and instead resorting to profanity shows these guys are a bunch of closed-minded dicks.
It's dicks, all the way down... (Score:5, Interesting)
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I know you're being facetious to prove a point, but Linux isn't exactly obscure or old anymore. It might not be mainstream but it's common enough for it to have had ports of commercial games for it, and also ports of games from indy developers. It's no longer unreasonable for someone to ask, that's all. I've seen plenty of indy games with Linux ports to make me believ
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I know you're being facetious to prove a point, but Linux isn't exactly obscure or old anymore.
Their main customer base is XBLA & Steam at the moment....is the pool of Linux gamers really on par with that combination enough to make it worth the effort?
True, but they appear to be misinformed about Linux and are instead going off a stereotype. They're programmers, shouldn't they be at least aware of what's out there? Or am I just being naive?
At the risk of being a bit pedantic, of the 2 developers, only o
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Seems to have worked for World of Goo. The developers just supplied static libraries where necessary instead of relying on the user to have the right libs already installed. This is EXACTLY how commercial software should be distributed in Linux. It takes the environment down to a more manageable level.
fucking PETA (Score:2)
To do this, they HAD to look beyond the title.
Super Meat Boy has nothing to fucking do with meat on a dietary level. What the hell went through the minds of those at PETA?
What rights!? They are animals! (Score:2, Informative)
Don't get me wrong I'm not some sadistic freak that tortures animals but c'mon here...
I can relate to human torture because I can mentally put myself in the shoes of the tortured person a bit.
But no, I wouldn't/don't care about animal rights and I'll keep devouring them for a long, long time.
Until they take over and make us their pets no...no sympathy from me.
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It's probably about cannibalism... (Score:5, Interesting)
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It used to be SOP to eat the dead in many cultures. There's still tribes where the custom is for the new chief to eat the heart of the old one when he dies. What's crazy about that? People are made out of meat. Crazy would be killing them to eat them when the alternative is not starvation but merely menu boredom.
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It used to be SOP to eat the dead in many cultures. There's still tribes where the custom is for the new chief to eat the heart of the old one when he dies. What's crazy about that?
There are several rather serious diseases that are only transmitted by eating the flesh of humans. You rarely hear of these diseases because they only appear among cannabalistic cultures of which there are few. However, I remember reading somewhere in the last 10 years about a culture that was confirmed to have certain cannabalistic traditions because of the occurence among them of one of those diseases. Up until that disease was diagnosed among them, it was believed that the references to that culture eati
Hey PETA (Score:2)
Animals die, you know, so it's mostly a matter of how and at what age. Me, I'd rather have my head clubbed or my neck slit in a farm than be eaten half-alive by a predator that just mauled me enough to keep me still. And while that's not a true dichotomy, the odds of dying peacefully, surrounded and guarded by my peers are small.
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They think that's gross? The villain of SMB is Dr. Fetus, a fetus in a jar. Bosses include a happy ball of blood, a meat boy clone made of feces and a living pile of corpses. Oh and animals constantly get murdered by the saw blades everywhere as they try to flee from the carnage as Dr. Fetus destroys more and more of the world.
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Plus, whenever they want to "parody" something it's always mean-spirited and extremely badly researched, ending up carrying a lot of unfortunate implications - such as Super Tofu Boy, which manages to casually describe eating animals as being identical to cannibalism. Way
Re:Not a bad attempt... (Score:4, Funny)