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Sony Releases PS3 3.61 Update Ahead of PSN's Imminent Return 233

Posted by timothy
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Sonny Yatsen writes "Sony has released the PS3 3.61 firmware update as a part of the phased return of the Playstation Network and Qriocity. The new update now requires all PSN users to change their passwords in order to sign back into the PSN service." And several readers are pointing to reports that the network is slowly being spun up. Snips one anonymous submitter: "Sony Japan told customers today that it would begin phased restoration of its services of its beleaguered Playstation Network which has been suffering from an outage for nearly a month. The company would start bringing back its gaming network this Sunday, on a country-by-country basis, and expects it to be completed by May 31."
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Sony Releases PS3 3.61 Update Ahead of PSN's Imminent Return

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  • by symbolset (646467) * on Saturday May 14, 2011 @10:46PM (#36130724) Journal

    There are reports today that Sony's networks still are oblivious to real security [reuters.com]. Among the serious vulnerabilities are links to globally viewable security consoles in robots.txt files, ID web-management consoles being publicly available and indexed in Google, and more!

    I guess the upside is that if the hackers are going to get your credit card from Sony, they already have it so you may as well play your games too.

    • by jbplou (732414)

      I think the upside is for Nintendo because this is great advance marketing of their new system.

      • by Tarlus (1000874)

        Nintendo will need to seriously overhaul their model for online interactivity before they could even be placed in the same ball park as XBL and PSN. As it is, they could not use the Wii's present level of online interactivity on the new console and hope to welcome in PSN refugees. They'd all sooner hop over to XBL.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Too late I think.

      An outage like this one will cause more than a few to rethink why they spend so much time gaming online. Perhaps the issue may serve a higher purpose and get folks out doing something else.

      I'm very curious to see how many will cancel their accounts with SOE after this, and of those, how many will be better off for it.

    • by yuhong (1378501)

      Note that the the report says some of these are already fixed.

  • Well, not actually a schedule, but you can see when your state is back online :
    Playstation Blog [playstation.com]
  • Seems a big failure on design. If I designed a credit card payment system I would have it only be active in the portion of the network that required people to pay for something.

    So... your playstation comes online and you want to sign in and play a game. Ok, the console has been authorized before it should be able to send a token saying "I'm whois let me play games."

    In fact, PSN shouldn't really care who you are unless you're trying to buy something. Buying something and playing a game are two fundamental

  • I am not in favor of the innocent users becoming victims, but if this happened to any company, at least it happened to Sony. There are few companies that deserve this more than Sony.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by kylemonger (686302)
      There are no innocents, only those who are apathetic. If you're still putting money into Sony's pockets after the crap they've pulled then you are part of the problem and deserve to suffer along with Sony.
      • by PRMan (959735)
        Harsh, but somewhat deserved. The problem is that the mass media barely covers this stuff and the average person has no idea.
      • by Kalriath (849904)

        Anyone ever told you you're an arrogant, condescending douchebag? Frankly, it's none of your fucking business who any person wants to conduct business with, and if anyone deserves to suffer it's a jerkwad who thinks that just because a person chooses to deal with Sony (possibly because they don't give a shit about OtherOS or George Hotz) then they are apathetic fools deserving of righteous suffering.

      • by Maudib (223520)

        Spot on.

        Ill go further. Its good when average people who are blissfully ignorant get some of the Sony treatment. Maybe now they will understand and stop giving these jerks money.

      • by westlake (615356)

        There are no innocents, only those who are apathetic. If you're still putting money into Sony's pockets after the crap they've pulled then you are part of the problem and deserve to suffer along with Sony.

        Among the 70 million PSN account holders there are, I would imagine, quite a few in a mood to rake the geek and the hacker over the coals.

        Far from apathetic.

        But simply sharing a different set of values and priorities.

      • by tepples (727027)

        If you're still putting money into Sony's pockets after the crap they've pulled then you are part of the problem

        Then how do you recommend that I find a grocery store that doesn't play Sony Music over its speaker system and therefore doesn't put money in Sony's pocket?

    • I am not in favor of the innocent users becoming victims, but if this happened to any company, at least it happened to Sony. There are few companies that deserve this more than Sony.

      It's not even really a case of 'deserving' it. They created ill-will with a group of people, and those people retaliated. In the short term, a lot of people are getting burned by the outage. Looking at the big picture, however, Sony will have to think long and hard about whether or not to remove features in the future.

      What the 'hackers' did was criminal and not justifiable. They should not have done this. (I bet somebody replies without having read this bit.) But if Sony shows any wisdom at all, they'

  • Sony's SOE games (the MMOs, such as EverQuest) have been down for 2 weeks. They brought them back online earlier today.

  • by saikou (211301) on Sunday May 15, 2011 @12:06AM (#36131020) Homepage

    What I'm curious about is why do they re-activate the network per state [playstation.com].
    As of right now, just California and a few New England states seem to be "online". One server per state? Sounds a bit odd.
    Oh and the map is stored on Flickr. For a moment there I thought someone hacked their blog system too, and just posted faked-up "we're about to go live again" message.

    • by dave562 (969951)

      I'm guessing they are doing it for the purposes of load testing. They selected two high population regions of the country on opposite coasts. If the system gets overwhelmed, they can spin up additional resources.

    • by guttentag (313541) on Sunday May 15, 2011 @01:27AM (#36131332) Journal
      According to the map [playstation.com] there's a giant storm front of jumbled X, O, SQUARE and TRIANGLE symbols headed for Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. That may explain why those states are still offline while California, which should only just get grazed near San Diego, is already up and running. Not sure why Alaska's offline, since the map clearly shows the storm passing far to the north of Barrrow...
    • by Tei (520358)

      Probably something to do with being able to predict how much horsepower is needed.

      So if california get up, and theres not enough horses, buy more horses for the server farm.

      If everything goes online at the same time, the horses dies.

    • by evilviper (135110)

      Certainly several hundred if not thousand of severs per state, and likely spread across several major data centers, at least in the case of more populous states like Calif. Of course I'm just feeding what Sony is doing based on my experience with Second Life's racks of 1U servers as far as the eye can see...

      Latency is a huge deal with gaming, so yeah, it makes perfect sense that it's per-state in some fashion.

  • by headkase (533448) on Sunday May 15, 2011 @01:42AM (#36131384)
    So, the PSN cloud failed for a month. It has made me rethink my enthusiasm for Google's ChromeOS. With my fat-desktop I can still do useful things with it without a network. With ChromeOS I'm not sure I can do anything if the network is disrupted. And initially, I was like: "Awesome! Want!" when Google announce ChromeOS..
    • by drinkypoo (153816)

      Much of the point of ChromeOS is that applications will have offline functionality. But don't let facts get in your way or anything. This seems familiar, did you post this same troll before?

      • Frankly, I think far more people are still confused about what ChromeOS gets them that Android doesn't.

        And Google is definitely moving Android in a direction of running on multitude of form factors, not just phones and tablets. If you plug in a USB mouse into a Honeycomb tablet, you get a good old mouse cursor and can fully interact with the OS that way. In 3.1, they're adding mouse hover and scroll events to the API. Its browser syncs bookmarks, history and other settings with Google servers (which in turn

        • by drinkypoo (153816)

          Frankly, I think far more people are still confused about what ChromeOS gets them that Android doesn't.

          Well, that IS the actual objection to Chrome OS, isn't it?

          So, what's the advantage of ChromeOS, again? I expected it to be price, but those laptops they've announced recently don't look all that cheap compared to the recent slew of Honeycomb tablets; so that can't be it.

          There is none. I think anyone buying a Chrome OS device is a tard because Chrome OS and Android will probably eventually merge [eweek.com]. And who's more likely to get an update, an Android user or a Chrome OS user? Yeah, you got it in one.

      • Re:Generalizing.. (Score:5, Interesting)

        by gtch (1977476) on Sunday May 15, 2011 @04:43AM (#36131956)

        Much of the point of ChromeOS is that applications will have offline functionality.

        The HTML5 technologies that ChromeOS will use for offline functionality are really designed to synchronise with the original server. So when Google Docs or your network goes down, you will be able to keep working on your document. But if you want to take your document somewhere else — say take a copy home as a file on a USB stick — you can't. Exporting documents is done in the cloud, not by the browser, so your document is stuck on your machine. You just have to wait until Google Docs works again so it can sync back up and then export it.

        That is almost exactly the same as the PS3 outage. The PS3 console and games continue to work as normal offline, but you can't play online and you can't switch to a competing provider of online games. In a major outage of Google Docs, your ChromeOS would continue to work as normal offline, but you wouldn't be able to take the document anywhere or give it to someone else — and you wouldn't be able to switch to a competing provider like Office Live — because your data is stuck in the Google cloud. One day Google may fix this, but at the moment you would be stuck.

        The problem here is being reliant on one company. On a desktop computer with a full operating system you've got myriad alternatives and competing solutions for any problem. On the PS3 and ChromeOS you've got a very simple-to-use system that's normally all you need; but if it fails then you're stuck with no alternative.

        • In a major outage of Google Docs, your ChromeOS would continue to work as normal offline, but you wouldn't be able to take the document anywhere or give it to someone else â" and you wouldn't be able to switch to a competing provider like Office Live â" because your data is stuck in the Google cloud. One day Google may fix this, but at the moment you would be stuck.

          That depends on whether you already had an account on some service like syncplicity which backups your Google Docs in realtime.

          Google has open APIs to your data, and that makes all the difference.

        • Re:Generalizing.. (Score:4, Interesting)

          by drinkypoo (153816) <martin.espinoza@gmail.com> on Sunday May 15, 2011 @09:33AM (#36132754) Homepage Journal

          Much of the point of ChromeOS is that applications will have offline functionality.

          The HTML5 technologies that ChromeOS will use for offline functionality are really designed to synchronise with the original server.

          That's not true, Google is adding additional functionality to handle local file access. [cnet.com] Again, don't let the facts get in your way or anything.

    • And initially, I was like: "Awesome! Want!" when Google announce ChromeOS..

      I'm genuinely interested: what made you think "Awesome! Want!" with regards to an "OS" not on your own computer?

  • I think that Sony has lost a huge amount of psn customers. And also gaming networks did.
  • EQ2 servers came up about 5pm PDT today.

    • by leathered (780018)

      Yep, just got into the game even though I haven't subscribed for over 18 months.. looks like they've activated every account for the next 45 days.

  • They removed the ability to play PS2 games, and the ability to boot OtherOS.

    What this time?
    The ability to plug in controllers?
    The ability to play sounds?
    The ability to do hi-def?

    Each update seems to be a slow descent into brickdom.

    Fuck!!! It's a Sony!!!

    • They removed the ability to play PS2 games

      Er...no, they didn't. If you bought a PS3 able to play PS2 games, it is still able to do so. Sony never took that ability away from any PS3 that had it.

      • by batkiwi (137781)

        You are incorrect. There were two forms of PS2 backwards compat.

        If your console was a REALLY early original, with hardware compatability, you can still play some PS2 games.

        If your console was the second gen, with software compatability, they removed it.

  • I've lost my patience with all the forced firmware upgrades, so I'm just not signing back on to the Playstation Network. All of my PS3 games are single player, which I've been able to play during the outage, so I'm just fine with never signing on to the PSN again. Aside from single player games, the only other use I have for a console nowadays is Netflix.

    Essentially, the Playstation Network has nothing of value to me.

  • and for fuck's sakes, don't give them your credit card # kthnxbai

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