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Microsoft Reverses 'Mature' Game Ban On Windows 8 87

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from the finally-thought-it-through dept.
another random user writes with news that Microsoft has sorted out the Windows Store guidelines such that games rated 'Mature' in the U.S. will be allowed. An earlier version of the guidelines took cues from the European PEGI rating system, which lumps pornographic content into the same rating as mainstream games that involve violence. In the U.S., they're split up into Adult (for porn) and Mature (for things like Skyrim, Call of Duty, and Assassin's Creed). Gamers and developers were worried that a large number of very popular games were going to be disallowed on the Windows Store. Microsoft hopes to have the situation fixed by December — not ideal, since Windows 8 is now out, but better than nothing.
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Microsoft Reverses 'Mature' Game Ban On Windows 8

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  • by medv4380 (1604309) on Friday October 26, 2012 @05:43PM (#41783461)
    Skyrim is fine as a Mature Violent game, but Dragon Age has the equivalent of soft core porn in it. Does that get it into the Adult bucket or is it still gray enough for Mature?
    • by Synerg1y (2169962)

      There's two distinct ratings in the states: M & A, Dragon age is M:

      http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/25/esrb-rating-explains-dragon-age-origins-sexual [joystiq.com] -exploits/

      A is for one of those stupid adult sexploits games that nobody plays.

      Even The Witcher 2 with full frontal got M.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description [soft core porn]; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the [content] involved in this case is not that.
      —Justice Potter Stewart, US Supreme Court

    • by Hatta (162192)

      There's as much evidence that censorship is bad for children as there is that "adult" and "mature" themes are. That is, none.

      • by hairyfeet (841228) <bassbeast1968@NOsPAM.gmail.com> on Saturday October 27, 2012 @12:00AM (#41786609) Journal

        Welllll...yes and no. Would I want my kids playing at age 9 the game equivalent of "I spit on your grave"? Nooo, not because I didn't educate my kids and explain the difference between reality and gaming, its that when you are younger your brain simply doesn't have the emotional level of maturity to handle things you can later.

        Using an example from my own childhood there are three scenes from shows that fricking gave me nightmares that today would actually be considered kind of tame. From Night Gallery the story where Roddy McDowell kills his uncle and the painting changes, one that was either Night Gallery or Outer Limits where a woman calls her dead son back from the grave only to find what she calls back was NOT her son (the scene where the demon in the kid's body explains "Timmy killed himself to GET AWAY FROM YOU while every time the lightning flashed the kid's face became the demon? truly scary shit) and the final one an old Hammer horror that appeared to be in B&W...until they stabbed the first vamp nearly 20 minutes in and the screen erupts in arterial spray.

        Now once you are an adult if you want to tie little old ladies to passing buses in Just Cause II (always fun) or play something like Rapelay? Knock yourself out, have a ball. But a parent simply can't keep up with every damned new release on the planet so having set guidelines we can use along with a more detailed explanation following it? I honestly have no problem with that, because it gives the parent the choice and control.

        • by hairyfeet (841228)
          Oh and I hate to reply to myself but...does anybody remember what episode from what series it was that I was talking about earlier, where the mom brings the kid back from the dead? I've been looking for that thing for ages, I'd love to watch it on Halloween, but damned if I know who was in it, just that kick ass scary ending where the power is out and the demon in the kid's body is heading towards her and the lightning lets you see its true face...damned scary and I'd love to watch it along with some classi
    • Both are Mature. The title and summary on slashdot *gasp* are completely wrong. Mature titles are fine in the US. The problem was that in Europe they use a different system in which US Mature titles were getting wound up in the equivalent of US's AO rating.

      So M rated games were always fine, it's the European system which lumps the sex games in with the Mature games that caused the kerfuffle.

      • by oji-sama (1151023)

        So M rated games were always fine, it's the European system which lumps the sex games in with the Mature games that caused the kerfuffle.

        Which as an European makes sense. Why would sex be more mature than violence?

  • by rwven (663186)

    It's encouraging to see that MS is willing to see reason on this count. I happen to like Win8 quite a bit, and their initial "ban" on M rated content made me very nervous about the long term viability of the platform for me.

    • by Opportunist (166417) on Friday October 26, 2012 @05:57PM (#41783671)

      I happen to like Win8 quite a bit

      So that guy is YOU?

    • The change, though, will take some time to go into effect. The games that had been caught in this net still won't be available as the Windows Store launches with Windows 8 today. Leblond said the plan is to flip the switch around December - definitely before the new year.

      Wait until December to flip the switch? Why not flip the switch now? Is this what we are to expect from this platform?

    • So what you are saying is that you are willing to accept censorship about what apps you can run, in turn for a working operating system, even if alternatives are available? That must be some operating system then, that you are willing to trade.
    • by rwven (663186)

      Not sure how I got modded troll on this. I was being completely serious. I genuinely like Win8...

  • by Ractive (679038) on Friday October 26, 2012 @05:47PM (#41783527) Homepage
    The typical: "Its ok if there's killing, beheading and any kind of gore as long as nobody fucks."
  • by Synerg1y (2169962) on Friday October 26, 2012 @05:48PM (#41783529)

    Windows 8 took an arrow to the knee.

    • Re:Sounds like... (Score:4, Insightful)

      by thegarbz (1787294) on Friday October 26, 2012 @07:01PM (#41784373)

      Yes. Shot by none other than Microsoft themselves with careful aim.

      Seriously fixed by December? In the mean time a flagship product with an ailing store and developer base is suffering. How could it take so long?

      I work for what I can only consider to be the most bureaucratic red tape laden company outside of the government. I once needed to request a purchase requisition, get it approved by my line manager, forward it to a procurement officer, then take the resulting purchase order and fax it to a company all for a $2 lightbulb. It takes me months to get even the simplest of things done. However if something affects production, public perception, or profits rest assured everyone will be standing in line to ensure the red tape is machetied down before it even rises.

      Taking 2 months to fix something that sounds quite trivial is appalling.

      • by Calydor (739835)

        That is why you request a $100 lightbulb with the added notes, "Unable to work without this, production halted until requested item is acquired."

  • Windows Store? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 26, 2012 @05:53PM (#41783605)

    Who cares.
    Steam Store :)

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Who cares.
      Steam Store :)

      That won't be available in Windows 8.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Windows 8 is an absolute failure. Microsoft, what in the hell were you thinking?

  • Windows 7 is a mature, well tested operating system. Windows 8 has just been born, and is not ready to confront the world as an independent adult. Underscoring this immaturity is a desire to dress in Children's Clothing [pcmag.com].

  • by tverbeek (457094) on Friday October 26, 2012 @06:35PM (#41784069) Homepage

    So (once again) here's the message: sex = bad, violence = OK.

    • by sowth (748135)

      Sex = killing babies. Here's how it works:

      • sex = unwanted pregnancy.
      • unwanted pregnancy = abortion
      • abortion = killing babies

      There you have it. Sex = killing babies

  • Who in their right mind would use the Windows Store anyway?
  • by NinjaTekNeeks (817385) on Friday October 26, 2012 @06:36PM (#41784079)
    Why use some lame app store when you can just fire up Steam and download whatever the heck u want when it comes to games?
    • by rally2xs (1093023)

      Yeah, that's a valid question to which I want a confirmation. Does this OS prohibit all games that aren't downloaded from the "approved" site? I don't think so, but don't know for sure. I've got several games (not a big gamer) and, what, do they not then run if I upgrade to 8? I have to rebuy them at this approved site in order to keep playing them? Makes no sense, but then neither does worrying about what the official game store from usoft may or may not approve when games bought anywhere can run on th

    • by westlake (615356)

      Why use some lame app store when you can just fire up Steam and download whatever the heck u want when it comes to games?

      Because you can't.

      Steam does not sell games that other US retailers have found to hot to handle, more trouble then they are worth.

      The original restrictions on content in the Windows Store were there because Microsoft wanted to offer clear guidelines for developers and a unified and profitable global marketplace for Windows apps.

  • "Gamers and developers were worried that a large number of very popular games were going to be disallowed on the Windows Store."

    Has anyone here ever bought software on a Microsoft Windows store or would intend to buy it? What a slashdot strawman marketing!

  • by Horshu (2754893)
    Didn't anyone else read the original guideline that said games couldn't be in the store if they were *over* M or PEGI? Even the original source article (but not the blog posted here) updated with emphasis from MS on the "over" part.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Won't somebody please think of the Adult games?

  • so... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by zlives (2009072)

    if you have win8 you can't surf porn? not that i would of course.... just saying
    also horrible heading FTFA

  • by tillerman35 (763054) on Friday October 26, 2012 @09:04PM (#41785471)

    The only good thing about this story is that maybe non-techie people will realize that when you let the OS vendor dictate what you can do with the hardware you bought to run their product on, they will ALWAYS use that ability against you.

    Consoles, Apple, and now Windows- how many times do we have to learn the same lesson?

    • Consoles, Apple, and now Windows- how many times do we have to learn the same lesson?

      Don't forget Ubuntu.

  • by jonwil (467024) on Friday October 26, 2012 @09:09PM (#41785531)

    i.e. they would allow games rated up to M in the USA as well as games rated up to MA in Australia or whatever.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Yes, that's why they don't want you to turn Metro off.

    It's even worse than the integrated ads in Ubuntu Unity which they also refuse to turn off.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    This is the problem with an software store. We have seen it with the Apple app store and now Microsoft is heading that way too. It allows for too much power over what gets or doesnt get published.

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