GTA V Makes $800 Million In 24 Hours 396
An anonymous reader writes "The highly anticipated Grand Theft Auto V was released at midnight yesterday, and to no surprise has managed to break the record for highest sales in 24 hours. Distributors Take-Two Interactive have announced that the game has managed to achieve a staggering $800m (£490m) worth of sales within the first day, and is certainly going to break the forecasted $1 billion within the week. The record was previous held by Activision's Call of Duty: Black Ops which made $500m within 24 hours in 2009. The game also holds the title for the quickest entertainment product to achieve $1 billion in sales as they hit the mark by day 15."
No PC yet (Score:5, Insightful)
Those numbers would be even higher if they stopped shunning their roots by delaying PC releases and turning PC into a shitty port from consoles.
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You can have a refined, bug-free, well-performing PC release after the console versions are done, or you can have a crappy, poorly optimised version day-and-date with the console release, but you can't have both. Rockstar North favour the former. EA has you well served with the latter, if for some reason you prefer it.
Unless you're suggesting they should've just sat on the finished console versions for a few months while they finished the PC release, just to save you from feeling slighted.
Re:No PC yet (Score:5, Insightful)
You can have a refined, bug-free, well-performing PC release after the console versions are done, or you can have a crappy, poorly optimised version day-and-date with the console release, but you can't have both. Rockstar North favour the former.
How do you explain GTA4? It was delayed a year and performed like shit on PC when it was released. GTA was originally a PC game and they have been treating PC as a second class citizen lately.
Re:No PC yet (Score:5, Informative)
GTA was originally a PC game and they have been treating PC as a second class citizen lately.
If by "lately" you mean "since 1999", then I suppose you're right. GTA hasn't been a PC game for a looooong time.
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Taking time is a necessary but not sufficient condition for doing a good job. I'm not sure what platform the first GTA game came out in matters to this discussion; as a game completed for MS-DOS and latterly ported to other platforms it's hardly relevant to the multiplatform development of a modern game..
Re:No PC yet (Score:5, Informative)
It did NOT perform "fine" if you had a quad-core.
It performed extremely bad on my i7, until the patch.
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Actually you can have both (Score:3)
Battlefield 3 would be an example. Launched the same day on all platforms and worked well on all of them.
It really isn't a big deal to simultaneously develop for multiple platforms and when you get down to it the PC is likely more similar to the Xbox 360 than the 360 is to the PS3 in terms of development tools and style.
The problem is Rockstar are console heads, for various reasons, and relegate the PC release to second class status.
You can also see it with shit like GTA 4. Not only did it come out way afte
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I would call $800m worth of sales in 24 hours after launch a large number of really good reasons.
Would they have sold that much if they'd released PC only? Would the product have been as well tested if they released for both?
PC gamers might not be happy they don't get the title on release day -- but in terms of maximizing their sales/product release schedule, I'd say from a corporate perspecti
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Launched the same day on all platforms and worked well on all of them.
You're joking, right? It STILL doesn't work WELL on XBox 360. At launch it was one of, if not THE, buggiest games I've ever played on a console.
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Which requires advanced modifications to the console including soldering. Little bit more difficult than copying a cracked .exe. You and richy freeway are both being disingenuous and you know it.
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you do understand that they're two totally different game types and liking both is not that uncommon?
have fun enjoying the story in europa universalis..
Re:No PC yet (Score:5, Informative)
A more likely reason is that PC games typically retail for less, suffer higher rates of piracy and must cope with a wider variety of hardware which must all be developed and tested for with higher resolutions and assets to boot. I assume that all these reasons play their part in consoles taking over from PCs in the last few years. Perhaps with digital download services like Steam and wannabes taking off that the PC market is more attractive than it was a few years back.
Re:No PC yet (Score:5, Insightful)
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Yes, console gamers would never buy something as complicated as Final Fantasy Tactics for example.
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Yes, because Europa Universalis is outselling Borderlands right now.
It deserves every sale it gets (Score:5, Insightful)
The game is incredible, if you're a fan of the GTA series, they've really addressed many issues with the game. The storyline is told better and more compelling than previous ones (that includes Gay Tony, which was quite good)
The graphics / environment / effects - god knows how they achieved this, I do not know. Yes some things like Uncharted look nicer but they are a very linear closed environment. For an open world game, it's utterly staggering. I'm playing on PS3 and the resolution seems higher than GTA4, there's more detail and there's more you can do AND the draw distance is further. The frame rate while not a flawless 30 all the time seems honestly better than GTAIV at most times.
The humour, satire, writing in general is utterly tip top. I am not cringing at lines or groaning at character decisions. As usual the commercials (billboard, radio, TV) are just fantastic, some of the random one liners amazing. The stuff they've added like the random mission encounters are awesome. I really can't complain about this at all in any way.
I'm about 35 hours into it (picked it up midnight Monday night) and about 2/3 of the way through it I'd say. It's just brilliant, it really is.
If you want to wait for the PC or oft wished for PS4 editions, go for it - but posting in reply here how inferior this is, pointless - the game is great, you can play it right now. If you want to complain that it's crap because "it doesn't do XYZ that Saints Row does" - good for you, hit up Saints Row!
This world blends together so many immersive things, it's just incredible. I love the shit out of this game.
$89 AUD? In hindsight I think I would've gladly paid $189 AUD. Just brilliant.
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I'm playing on PS3 and the resolution seems higher than GTA4
That's because the resolution is higher. GTA4 ran at 1280x720 on the 360, but 1152x640 on the PS3, because the architectures between the two consoles are completely different and Rockstar had an easier time optimizing for the 360. It's the same with Saints Row 4. For GTA5, Rockstar has had a lot more time to really get to know the PS3, so consequently the game runs at full resolution on both consoles with at most a 1-2fps difference in performance in certain busy scenes (mostly in cutscenes, oddly enough).
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The humour, satire, writing in general is utterly tip top.
As with previous entries in the series (*), there are apparently a lot of subtle references that only people in Scotland (where the game was designed)- or at least Britain- will spot, without alienating everyone else or spoiling the atmosphere.
Such as the fact that the small Scottish borders town of Hawick [wikipedia.org] has had its name "borrowed" for a fictional town with a "drug addict hipster vibe". [videogamer.com] They aren't too happy about it, apparently...
(*) GTA IV San Andreas apparently included the "Garver" and "Kincaid"
Re:It deserves every sale it gets (Score:4, Insightful)
Movie ticket: $10, 2 hours entertainment –$5 per hour.
Pub: $20, 4 hours entertainment – $5 per hour.
Typical AAA game: $40, 30 hours entertainment –$1.33 per hour.
GTA: $60, 100 hours entertaiment – $0.60 per hour.
I'd say GTA is pretty well priced already.
Re:It deserves every sale it gets (Score:5, Insightful)
Typical AAA game: $60, 8 hours entertainment - $7.50 per hour
There, FTFY
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The secondary market pushes the prices up. Each person in the chain doesn't net pay the whole $60.
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Typical AAA game: $60, 8 hours entertainment - $7.50 per hour
There, FTFY
You didn't fix anything. You broke a perfectly fine comment. We're not talking about any asshole AAA title. We're talking about fucking Grand Theft Auto here. I haven't bought an AAA title in years and I'm about to go out and get GTAV as soon as it's convenient. It is, in all likelihood, the last AAA title I ever buy because I won't buy first-sale-killing DRM'd Steam games, the Wii U seems dumb to me*, and Microsoft and Sony are both pure, concentrated evil and I think anyone giving them money at this point
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Agreed. I haven't turned on my XBox360 in a year, but I just might for this game.
I won't be buying another console, unless there is a REALLY compelling reason. I'm not seeing it right now. The last few games I've really enjoyed have been Kickstarter driven, and Wasteland 2 isn't that far off...
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The Wii U seems dumb to me because of asymmetric controllers
If asymmetric controllers are dumb, the PC is likewise dumb. Player 1 has the mouse and keyboard; other players on the machine have USB gamepads.
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I'd love to live in a world where AAA games were just 8 hours long. Completing even something like Alan Wake took me months. I'm always on the lookout for something like an MGS or Resident Evil game that I can thoroughly explore within a week or two with a minimum of padding.
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Re:It deserves every sale it gets (Score:5, Insightful)
8 hours? I've played GTA5 for about 10 hours by now, and according to the game itself, I'm around 16% through with the story missions, never mind all the optional side missions and activities, gun smuggling, races, random events, treasure hunts and collectibles. Or the fact all of the heists can be played through multiple times with different approaches. Or the random dicking around that a GTA game always lends itself so well to, thanks to the wonderfully detailed world and enormous possibilities for outright mayhem they put in your hands.
Some AAA games are linear and more like semi-interactive movies than actual games, true. But that doesn't have to be a bad thing. A 100% slick, well-produced, well-told and immersive story has a value of its own, even if it is linear. Do you complain that your movies and books are too linear, as well?
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Because everyone blasts through AAA titles at the same speed, and all AAA titles have the exact same amount of content.
Re:It deserves every sale it gets (Score:5, Interesting)
Movie ticket: $10, 2 hours entertainment –$5 per hour.
Pub: $20, 4 hours entertainment – $5 per hour.
Typical AAA game: $40, 30 hours entertainment –$1.33 per hour.
GTA: $60, 100 hours entertaiment – $0.60 per hour.
I'd say GTA is pretty well priced already.
That just says that the movies and beer in pubs are way too expensive.
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Facebook games and free iPhone/Android games are not a valid indicator of the gameplay in a modern open-world AAA game.
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So I take it you've never played a GTA game.
That's fine, just don't jump to conclusions, ok?
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game prices have been going down
Especially true if you owned a Neo Geo.
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When you account for inflation, game prices have been going down. [imgur.com]. Hard to remember games were more expensive back when mommy and daddy were buying them for you.
Mom & Dad never bought me games. They did buy a C64 though, cassette drive, no disk drive. And a modem. -- much better then buying me games.
till they got the phone bill...
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Go to Afghanistan then.
But have you actually played any GTA game, ever?
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"You cannot even build an empire."
What exactly do you think drives empire-building?
Need more numbers (Score:2, Interesting)
This is close to the highest grossing films (Avatar at 2.7 billion), but there is a difference in that we don't get to know how much a game cost and how much it sold unless the publisher wants us to.
All films have budget and box office numbers on their Wikipedia pages and IMDB and I think it's about time that happened for video games as well.
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Various independent estimates (presumably based on Rockstar's public financials and staff numbers) put it in at $200-$300m. That means it was about as expensive as Avatar too, assuming they both have similar marketing spends.
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You are comparing Avatar's total earnings with GTAV's first 24 hours. Avatar made about $200m on its opening weekend.
The games industry makes Hollywood look stupid and small.
Lamely replying to myself. (Score:2)
The highest grossing opening day for any film was $91m in the first 24 hours for the last Harry Potter movie.
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And I would not be surprised if those "first day" sales also included all the pre-orders that people have been laying out for months ahead of time in anticipation.
It's impressive numbers to be sure, and certain to impress the beancounters, but don't read more into it than that. Just going by the dollar signs isn't enough to gauge the overall impact or popularity of a blockbuster game versus a blockbuster movie, for instance.
Still, well-deserved and kudos to Rockstar. While I haven't liked everything about t
Is it really surprising ? (Score:3, Interesting)
Here at least, I've heard about the game in the "News" again and again. (Belgium)
Such or such shop exceptionnaly opened at 22:00 so people could queue and buy the game at 00:00 (here shops are usually closed at 18:30). ...".
Such or such "expert" speaking about the influence on the children of such "an incredibely well done game, so realistic and with such an incredible level of freedom
Is it so amazing that, with so much coverage, people not knowing anything about games would have an incentive, an urge, to put their hands on that "phenomenon" ?
I only remember that GTA IV was so boring, so repetitive and so identical to the previous ones that I put it aside for some other game.
Still, GTA IV was also highly rated and heavily advertised/covered by "journalists".
History repeats itself. Deal with it.
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Young men impersonate cops to buy GTA V, arrested (Score:5, Funny)
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/young-men-impersonate-cops-buy-gta-4-article-1.1459299 [nydailynews.com]
"Young Staten Island men impersonate police officers to skip line to buy Grand Theft Auto V
Kirolos Abdel Sayed, 19, Matthew Kirshen, 20, and Frank Santanastoso, 19, drove to the Staten Island Mall in what appeared to be an unmarked car complete with lights and sirens only to have their fun ended by real police officers."
Man mugged and copy of GTA stolen (Score:2)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-24127999 [bbc.co.uk]
A man was hit with a brick and stabbed before being robbed of the much awaited Grand Theft Auto V video game in north London.
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Amateurs. They obviously couldn't make it out of the police search area before being caught or finding a pay&spray. They really should have replayed GTA4 to polish up their police dodging skills...
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I am sure the important question here is... how many stars did they get for that???
I think Amazon needs to do some ad campaigns (Score:2)
"You can get your game without waiting in line!"
Seriously it never ceases to amaze me the morons that go and do something stupid like this to get a copy of a game without waiting in line. You don't have to do that anymore. You go and order on Amazon, and they'll have it sent to your house, on release day. No waiting in line, no BS, it just gets delivered to you.
While the irrational need to have a new game RIGHT NAO is stupid enough (and I say this as a huge gamer) you don't have to wait in line, there's jus
not anywhere near CLOSE to $800 Million (Score:2)
Revenues are not profits. Article title is an embarrassment.
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But but but, the PIRACY!!!! (Score:4, Interesting)
Wait, so this means they also lost $2.2Billion to piracy then? I keep forgetting their fake numbers they keep trotting out on how much the companies lose to piracy.
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I don't think Rockstar games has ever quoted piracy numbers for its products. They've expressed disappointment every time the game has leaked but they don't seem to be in the BS numbers game.
How do you like that movies? (Score:2)
http://www.imdb.com/boxoffice/alltimegross [imdb.com]
1. Avatar (2009) $760,505,847
2. Titanic (1997) $658,672,302
3. The Avengers (2012) $623,279,547
4. The Dark Knight (2008) $533,316,061
Re:Sure (Score:5, Funny)
And some people are both stupid and arrogant.
Re:Sure (Score:4, Informative)
GTA is shallow and boring.
Compared to what? GTA is one of the most free-form and detailed virtual worlds there is. It's filled with beauty, technical awesomeness and humour. Are you just not a fan of games in general? What did you think of Red Dead Redemption?
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GTA I through Vice City, sure. San Andreas was already bit stale. IV was just incredibly annoying and not sandboxy at all.
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I wish :p
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Once you go Row you never go Auto.
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I loved Saints Row 2 (didn't try the first as it sounded like a poor quality knock-off of GTA). It seemed like the spiritual successor to the GTA 3 games. They didn't take themselves nearly as seriously as GTA IV did. I've not played enough of V to know how it compares properly to the previous games (only done a couple of missions), but so far it definitely feels like a more enjoyable place to be than Liberty City in GTA IV.
You should play Vice City or San Andreas if you want to see why everyone loves GTA s
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IV felt like it took itself too seriously sometimes, but hopefully V is back to form.
I personally really appreciated that GTA4 was more like a contemporary drama. But I also like silly games. I believe it's time for a re-envisioning of Interstate '76... in the RAGE engine. And with Rockstar-quality writing.
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Gameplay matters. Making fake virtual "ads" and AK47's is pretty dull and has been done to death. Wrapping them together in a package, throwing some nice shaders, and textures down, doesn't make a work of art.
Gameplay and Story both matter. What GTA's got, especially since San Andreas, is some of the best story around. If you don't like the genre you won't like the game, but that doesn't change the fact that they have a well-developed story.
Also, you may think the gameplay is dull, but GTA successfully combines several different kinds of gameplay in a way that clearly captivates many players, perhaps even a majority of them. And I find the fake ads hilarious, and that the game world would feel dull and empty wit
Remember the target market (Score:3, Insightful)
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I know, right?
Just ask Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris.
Statistical Noise? (Score:3)
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Re:Sure (Score:5, Insightful)
Most people are stupid and like shallow entertainment.
You don't have to be stupid to enjoy shallow entertainment.
Re:Sure (Score:5, Insightful)
Just because you dont enjoy something doesn't mean people who do are 'sheep'. You sound like a jerk, because you are.
60 dollars for a few hundred hours of entertainment isn't a bad deal. Its not entertainment if you dont like the game, which you clearly are dead set to not like. Good for you! So dont buy it.
Not buying something doesn't make you smart, it means you know what you like. That may sugest some wisdom but when your reason is "Because you're all SHEEP!" that more or less shows you're neither wise or smart. You just want to have something to hold over people to try to feel superior because you're not. When the best you can do is not doing something, it only shows how truly pitiful you are. I'm almost sorry for you.
Re:Sure (Score:5, Funny)
I am not paying $60 to sit in some stuffy restaurant where they serve little bits of food on big plates. I'm also not paying $60 for some musical stage thing where all they do is sing show tunes. Definately not paying $60 to go deep sea fishing just so I can sit out in the hot sun, stink, and drink cheap beer.
I'll probably pay $60 to sit in the sun and watch a bunch of cowboys get bucked Oof of horses and bulls. And would pay $60 for a pile of comics at the comic book store. I'd even pay $60 for Elder ScrollsVI and waste a lot of hours there.
I any of y'all like or dislike stuff that is different from me, y'all are fools but if you do like the same things as me you're all posers who are trying to muscle in on my groove and now I hate the stuff I used to like.
Remember, nothing is any good if other people like it -and- nothing is any good if other people like stuff I don't.
So there!
Re:Sure (Score:5, Insightful)
Most people are stupid and like shallow entertainment.
Even emeritus professors occasionally laugh at fart jokes.
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"Most people are stupid and like shallow entertainment."
Says the first post troll...
Re:Sure (Score:5, Interesting)
Overrated, Shallow, Stupid, technically flawed, Pretentious, communist, capitalist, feudalist, colonialist, neocolonialist, imperialist (I guess like storm troopers?), mysoginist, hipster, racist, elitist, too mainstream, vulgar, liberal, conservative, unamerican, something sheeple would do, libertarian, classist, immoral, gluttonous, lewd, vain, arrogant, environmentally unsound, unsustainable, disrespectful to native americans, disrespectful to african americans, disrespectful to moon men, culturally insensitive in some other way, fanboish, stupid, homosexual, (some insult based on heterosexuality), effete, too macho, lame, overrated again (because somehow other people liking it is somehow a really big insult), too mainstream, Too popular, not popular enough, Lame, Whiney, left, Right, transgendered, cis-gendered, no-gendered, triple-gendered, Supports DRM, Unrealistically does not support DRM, closed-source, M$, Fandroid, Apple fanboi, Linux insult, nerdy, Lamp,
Okay, I'm out of steam now. I think that should sufficiently cover whatever it is you do for entertainment and why it's bad and I'm better than you.
Re:Sure (Score:5, Insightful)
If you're talking about "it has a shallow plot" then you need to realize you aren't reading a book. You are playing a sandbox style game.
If you are complaining about shallow driving, shooting, and dart minigames, then you need to realize you aren't playing a driving simulator, a shooter, or a dart videogame. You are playing a sandbox style game.
Why not just say "overrated?" The hipsters do it for a reason: no one can argue with overrated, and it shows your disdain of the vulgar pleasures of the commonfolk. If you find one guy who says "I LUV GTA! IT'S THE BEST!' then you can accurately say that the game is overrated. If you make more specific picks about a popular game you hate simply because it's popular, you could be wrong.
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I've gotta say that the minigames in GTA4 are anything but shallow. Even the pool game is way more complicated than it seems at first. The precise way you wiggle the stick as you hit the cue ball is completely relevant, not just the english point you set before striking. Bowling likewise. I can't imagine they'd have made the minigames in the new title any less complex. Similarly, the driving is quite detailed; it is however frustrating because of map errors and slow loading, for example when you hit a seam
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It's conventional in the entertainment business to do these comparisons with unadjusted dollars, but given that the previous record holder came out just a few years ago, and this has beaten it by almost a factor of two, it's moot.
Unless inflation has suddenly got a lot worse than I thought.
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Funny you should say that... it did [nytimes.com], or will. Not sure if it's priced in yet.
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Taco is playing GTA V and will get back to you after he checks his stock quotes on his windows phone.
I could be wrong, but I think the moderation dice(.com) are loaded. It does not surprise me that fantasy is a better business than reality because reality is hard and it guarantees no reward. It is the old mouse experiment from the 1960s. You give a mouse a button that stimulates the pleasure center in the brain and they will never eat agai
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Yeah, how dare they support a developer who actually makes original content that entertains them, and hasn't forgot that single-player mode exists!
Re:Incredible. (Score:5, Funny)
Your pretty dumb.
God I love this line. I can't stop laughing.
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> And to answer your question. If you like GTA. Your pretty dumb.
Pot, meet kettle...
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Your pretty dumb.
Oh the irony. Your sentence contains a possessive, two adjectives and no noun or verb.
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So how could Bud Lite surpass PBR in sales? Except by the extreme ignorance of mankind.
The same way anyone sells either of those beers, extreme ignorance of mankind. PBR is shit just like Budweiser is shit, it's just different shit. PBR is god's curse upon idiots for becoming hipsters.
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GTA has to be one of the most boring games I've ever played.
GTA was one of the best DOS games ever. How could you not enjoy it? Oh, wait, you're talking about the series? It's not one game, hence my confusion.
I want them to continue developing Half Life !
So just to be clear, because you don't like endlessly doing driving and stealing missions, you want to promote endlessly doing mine-dodging or bug-killing missions. Got it.
So, I own both HL2 and GTA4, and you're just full of shit. GTA4 has an order of magnitude more replay value. This shouldn't have been true, but all the HL2 mods are lame at best; either they'
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What's wrong with a game that's easily-accessible, but contains some depth and focuses on telling a compelling story of crime, redemption and struggle, while giving you an immersive living open world where you can go as hog wild as you like? Who cares if it's "casual" or "for brogrammers"? It's fun, goddammit, that's what counts. If you'd step down from your elitist "PC gaming is best gaming I'm not listening lalalalalala" throne, you'd be able to see that.
GTA V doesn't need to be online to play, you can pl
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One successful $200m+ game does not mean you can ignore dozens of $100m+ failures.
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If your company paid $100Mill on a failure game, you deserve to be out of business.
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That's my point. Many large, previously successful games companies released high-profile, expensive disasters and went broke in the past decade. The games industry has a blockbuster problem.
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The same people that dont want to play it on a little kids Screen, 70" screen or go home.
Big screen PC (Score:2)
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Maybe because they can walk out of the store with the console for less than it costs to buy the worst PC in the electronics store? Are you the kind of guy who sneers at people buying the ordinary toilet paper and not your preferred $10 super-quilted variety?
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Try full 720p at 30fps. It looks great, it runs great, the controls are very responsive and the gameplay is excellent.
It's not ~AMAZING PC GAMING OMG GRAFIX XXXTREME!~ snobby PC elitist approved, but the game looks awesome and runs ridiculously well on what is 7-8 year old hardware by now.
What does "locked down" even mean in this context? I buy a game, I put it in the drive, I play the game and I have fun with it. Isn't that what gaming is about? Fun? Is it because it's harder to pirate console games? Is it
Being able to choose your fun (Score:2)
What does "locked down" even mean in this context? I buy a game, I put it in the drive, I play the game and I have fun with it. Isn't that what gaming is about? Fun?
To some people, gaming is about being able to choose your fun. This can involve downloading and installing a mod once you tire of the vanilla game. Or it can involve installing an indie game whose developer is still seeking a publisher to bring it to the consoles. It can even involve helping to make a mod or an indie game, if that's how you swing. PC gamers can become the ruler of the fun kingdom [nocookie.net].
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I can choose my fun just fine, in fact I choose to play GTA V on my console because it's super fun. Perhaps after a couple of hours with GTA V, I'll choose to turn on my PC and play one of the interesting indie games I've supported on kickstarter. Or perhaps I'll choose play that 5-6 year old blockbuster game that I didn't play when it first came out, but now it was on sale. Or perhaps I'll choose to fire up Doom again and play around with some mods.
Does everything really have to be "us vs. them"? I swing a
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And honestly? Most days I choose not to play games at all, because I'd rather ride my motorcycle. Shocking, I know.