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Microsoft Relaxing Xbox One Kinect Requirements, Giving GPU Power a Boost? 220

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MojoKid writes "News from gaming insider Pete Doss is that Microsoft is mulling significant changes to the restrictions it places on developers regarding the Xbox One's GPU. Reportedly, some 10% of total GPU horsepower is reserved for the Kinect — 8% for video and 2% for voice processing. Microsoft is apparently planning changes that would free up that 8% video entirely, leaving just 2% of the system's GPU dedicated to voice input. If Microsoft makes this change, it could have a significant uplift on system frame rates — and it's not clear that developers would necessarily need to patch the architecture to take advantage of the difference."
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Microsoft Relaxing Xbox One Kinect Requirements, Giving GPU Power a Boost?

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  • Apples vs Apples (Score:5, Informative)

    by tuppe666 (904118) on Monday January 27, 2014 @05:43AM (#46079035)

    Fact remains that even moderate PCs today outperform both the PS4 and Xbox One at a similar price point.

    Not in your or mine wildest dreams

    The PS4 from Wikipedia "The CPU consists of two quad-core Jaguar modules totaling 8 x86-64 cores. The GPU consists of 18 compute units to produce a theoretical peak performance of 1.84 TFLOPS. The system's GDDR5 memory is capable of running at a maximum clock frequency of 2.75 GHz (5500 MT/s) and has a maximum memory bandwidth of 176 GB/s. The console contains 8 GB of GDDR5 memory" for US$399.99, €399.99, £349.99

    vs

    For just the base unit of the PC for the same price http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Ins... [amazon.com] Processor: Intel® Pentium® processor G2030 (3M Cache, 3.0 GHz), Memory (RAM): 4GB DDR3 SDRAM, 1600MHz-1X4GB, Storage (hard drive): 500GB Hard Drive, 3.5", 7200rpm, SATA, Optical Drive: DVD+/-RW Tray Load Drive, 16X, SATA Color: Black

    I am a bit tired of these comments being modded up in the hope of PC gaming making a comeback.

  • by Ihlosi (895663) on Monday January 27, 2014 @05:46AM (#46079053)
    ... the algorithms use mostly the same kind of operations, which are are what GPUs specialize in.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 27, 2014 @05:50AM (#46079073)

    Bear in mind that prices for AMD GPUs are a little inflated at the moment because of the crypto mining craze.

    All the same, $150 sounds about right for the GPU in a mid-range gaming machine. Machines at that level are often built 'unbalanced' - a weaker CPU mated with a more expensive GPU, on the assumption that most games don't fully utilise the CPU. You only see serious investment on the CPU for higher end gaming machines or workstations.

  • by fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) on Monday January 27, 2014 @05:50AM (#46079075) Journal
    It might have something to do with the ability of GPUs [microsoft.com] to crank through FFTs like nobody's business...
  • Re:Apples vs Apples (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 27, 2014 @05:59AM (#46079107)

    Radeon 7770 (~1.3Tflops) roughly matches XBONE @ $109
    Radeon 7859 (~1.8tflops) roughly matches PS4 @ $169 (139 with MIR)

    The 8 core Jaguar is crap. Any dual or quad core CPU will probably run circles around it, including Core2Quads. Take a 5+ year old PC, toss in a new GPU and your done.

  • Re:Apples vs Apples (Score:5, Informative)

    by Sockatume (732728) on Monday January 27, 2014 @08:14AM (#46079623)

    I'll be impressed if you can add 8GB GDDR5 and the rest of a SFF PC for under $330.

  • by JDG1980 (2438906) on Monday January 27, 2014 @09:14AM (#46080013)

    Bear in mind that prices for AMD GPUs are a little inflated at the moment because of the crypto mining craze.

    Price inflation is mostly affecting Tahiti (7950/7970/280X) and Hawaii (290/290X). The Pitcairn-based cards (7850/7870/270/270X) haven't moved much. The deals aren't as good as they were in the run-up to Christmas, but that's true of just about everything else, not just AMD video cards.

    The 7870 always had a street price of a bit under $200; the 2GB 7850 was usually around $150, with the 1GB version somewhat less (but not in much demand). I paid $179.99 for my 7870 and thought it was a pretty good deal.

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