Spike TV Video Game Award Winners 119
Gamespot reports on the results from Friday's Spike TV Video Game Awards. Top Game honor went to RE4, while King Kong and World of Warcraft both took home several category nods. From the article: "As much as Spike might have refined the show over its past pair of efforts, it was clear the network had not yet found a way to perfectly merge the subject matter, the celebrities, and the audience. Nowhere was evidence of this more pronounced than in the significant number of audience members heading for the exits right after Missy Elliott's climactic performance, having seen all they came for and not caring to find out who was going to take home the Game of the Year award. Winners for Best Gaming Publication, Best Gaming Website, and Best Gaming Blog were not announced at the show. "
Award shows (Score:1)
Re:Award shows (Score:2)
Re:Award shows (Score:1)
King Kong? (Score:2)
Re:King Kong? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:King Kong? (Score:2)
Re:King Kong? (Score:2)
My reaction: Whatever the gameplay may be like, it looked good for a console game. However, I don't think it looks any better than computer games from last year. HL2 looked a lot better.
No kidding (Score:1)
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Re:King Kong? (Score:1)
Awarding not-yet-released games? Boo! (Score:5, Informative)
I'm all for a rewards show, but I really would like for them to concentrate more on games that have been released already (like they did with Resident Evil 4).
Re:Awarding not-yet-released games? Boo! (Score:2)
If the reviewers have played a final build of the game, what's the BFD?
Re:Awarding not-yet-released games? Boo! (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Awarding not-yet-released games? Boo! (Score:2)
Re:Awarding not-yet-released games? Boo! (Score:2)
I was responding to the guy that proposed that the "judges" may have played the final build of the unreleased game. If votes actually mattered, as the show purports, then that would be impossible. The show is a sham any way you slice it.
Re:Awarding not-yet-released games? Boo! (Score:2)
King Kong won awards for "Best Movie-based Game" and "Best Male Voice Actor".
I'd claim the results were fixed, but that would make it sound as if I didn't they were fixed from the start.
Re:Awarding not-yet-released games? Boo! (Score:1)
Re:Awarding not-yet-released games? Boo! (Score:2)
Re:Awarding not-yet-released games? Boo! (Score:2)
Reviewers, reschmooers. Here is the best (but old) example I can give about the value of reviews. The film The Sound of Music was blasted by reviewers as a terrible movie. It went on to be nominated for ten academy awards, and won five. It became one fo the top box office winners of all time.
So the reviewers think King Kong is Best Game? Maybe so, but the generally poor quality of reviewers is what the BFD is about giving out the awa
Re:Awarding not-yet-released games? Boo! (Score:2)
Cheers
VikingBrad
A Word From Carmack (Score:5, Insightful)
Last year, John Carmack made a good post [slashdot.org] about why award shows like this simply do not fit for video games. I'd like to repost that comment, because it's still as true today as it was last year.
Nothing has changed about these award shows, they're still just as bad as last year [slashdot.org].
Re:A Word From Carmack (Score:2)
I mean, best actor makes sense in movies. An actor's performance is cruical to the success of the movie. You know, having the right facial expressions, having body language befitting the situation and having speaking their dialogue correctly.
In a video game 2/3 of those are done by developers.
Now, directors/designers I can give a little more credit to. But a sucessful game is a challenging or fun one. Not one with tons of voice ov
Re:A Word From Carmack (Score:4, Insightful)
I hate to break this to you, but no it isn't. It's based off of who has more charisma on the screen, and in most cases, who has the hottest babes.
Acting is very low on the list of things an popular actor needs.
Re:A Word From Carmack (Score:2)
Re:A Word From Carmack (Score:2)
Man, you guys are cynical. I work in the TV industry, and I've worked on films as well (not as a casting director, but I've worked with them).
The reality is actors are cast because of a combination of ability and looks that fit the part. If a part calls for an 80 year old woman, are you going to cast Keira Knightley in the role? Obvio
Re:A Word From Carmack (Score:1)
Re:A Word From Carmack (Score:2)
Self-confident? Do you actually know any actors?
Re:A Word From Carmack (Score:2)
Re:A Word From Carmack (Score:2)
The short answer is is that there are a lot of attractive people in
Graphics! Gameplay (Score:2)
By that logic, all Hollywood needs to do is legitmize showing breasts and they'll suddenly be able to make profits that'll make Titanic look like a failure. Yes, that movie had nudity but lets face it, people didn't go back to watch it repeatedly just to see Kate Winslet's breasts.
Same thing can be applied to video games, by your logic Nintendo should have been k
Re:A Word From Carmack (Score:2)
I hate to break this to you, but no it isn't. It's based off of who has more charisma on the screen, and in most cases, who has the hottest babes.
This is total bullshit. I have mod points to mod you down with, but since that doesn't do anything for the other modders I'll respond and hope they read this and mod you down for me.
Movies are all about people, or things anthropomorphized to be like people. The people have to move around and say
Re:A Word From Carmack (Score:2)
Nevermind the fact spike is mtv's bastard lovechild and trying harder to sell records and drop names than honour videogames.
It's not that they don't get it, they don't _want_ to get it. And apparently their audience doesn't either.
Best Breakthrough? (Score:4, Insightful)
Sony PSP (Sony Computer Entertainment America)
Xbox 360 (Microsoft Game Studios)
Nintendogs Voice Recognition (Nintendo Co. Ltd.)
Unreal Engine 3 (Epic Games Inc.)
Facial Mo-cap of NBA Live 06 (Electronic Arts)
breakthrough
n.
An act of overcoming or penetrating an obstacle or restriction.
A military offensive that penetrates an enemy's lines of defense.
A major achievement or success that permits further progress, as in technology.
Apparently SpikeTV has decided that breakthrough means any new technology, as opposed to a truly significant achievement...Not like we've seen a handheld before, or a console for that matter...
Re:Best Breakthrough? (Score:1)
Re:Best Breakthrough? (Score:2)
Lets face it; the best breakthrough technology is probably something ridiculously unsexy like a revolutionary AI algorithm or network protocol.
Can you spare a quarter (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Can you spare a quarter (Score:2)
Read this [media-awareness.ca] biased page for some commentary.
Re:Can you spare a quarter (Score:4, Insightful)
You kidding me? I bet you the prime consumer for these systems are 25-35 year olds. It's about expendable cash. 11-17s don't have the kind of cashpool that a guy just out of college with his first job that pays more than 8 dollars an hour has. Heck, neither of my nephews in your age range has said word one about XBox, I don't know too many people in the 25-35 age group who don't have a serious interest in it. Heck, people in my department are taking the 22nd off to try to get their hands on one.
Not to say that there isn't a serious force of teens who want this but I think gaming is swinging more twords the thirties something crowd and even moreso when you consier the cost of games. Buying a console for your kid is one thing, keeping him stocked with games is another. the 25-35 crowd doesn't need the good will of mom and dad to get them the latest game; they have credit cards, game producers know this.
Re:Can you spare a quarter (Score:1)
its not a far stretch to say parents WILL keep their kids stocked with video games or whatnot
Re:Can you spare a quarter (Score:2)
Just as re-enforcement of what you're saying, the ESA's latest "Essential Facts" [theesa.com] (Warning: PDF). It's consistent with their papers from past years indicating that the vast majority of gaming purchases (~95%) are made by individuals over the age of 18, and individuals 18 and under make up roughly a third of all game players.
There's still a lot of money to be made tapping into minors, but this all rides on the purse strings of their parents. And parents are probably more swayed by which consoles are getting
Re:Can you spare a quarter (Score:1)
Special Appearance (Score:1)
Re:Special Appearance (Score:2)
Re:Can you spare a quarter (Score:1)
Re:Can you spare a quarter (Score:2)
I saw some games awards show a while ago (forget which) which had a special appearance from Mario. Played by Ron Jeremy. Yes, _that_ Ron Jeremy. Funniest thing I've seen in ages.
Sony PSP - Breakthrough tech?!? (Score:2, Insightful)
Sony PSP (Sony Computer Entertainment America)
Xbox 360 (Microsoft Game Studios)
Nintendogs Voice Recognition (Nintendo Co. Ltd.)
Unreal Engine 3 (Epic Games Inc.)
Facial Mo-cap of NBA Live 06 (Electronic Arts)
I don't see how a smaller version of existing technology can be counted as breakthrough, when compared to innovations in tech, such as the nintendo voice recognition, or the facial imaging software, or even the stunning UE3.
Re:Sony PSP - Breakthrough tech?!? (Score:1)
Re:UE3, baby! (Score:1)
Re:Sony PSP - Breakthrough tech?!? (Score:2)
There is nothing special about Nintendos Voice Recognition, if I remember correctly my Soundblaster2.0 already came with software that did exactly the same years ago. So like the PSP, it doesn't offer anything new, just in a smaller form factor then it used to be.
Did it suck? (Score:5, Funny)
They're still trying this? (Score:2)
I'm not sure who they are profitably to, but that can be the only reason we keep trying to put them on.
Further, an award show for games? Your largest demographic typically has to ask their parents for their allowance to *buy* the games in question.
Music awards, game awards - what's the difference? (Score:1)
Well, the music in MTV's award shows is also typically what the allowance crowd buys, so I don't see why they wouldn't try to pull the same thing with games.
awards are just commercials (Score:5, Insightful)
as in about half of the winners probably won due to payoffs.
PSP as breakthrough technology...BS
King Kong winning a bunch of awards...the game isn't even out yet. real legitimate awards shows have deadlines for eligibility.
there are more, but i'm so disgusted i won't bother reading the rest of the winners, though i'm glad resident evil won a few awards.
WTF? Who are these so-called audience (Score:4, Informative)
Apparently, these so-called audience walked out because they are, in essense, Missy's fans.
The fault lies within the ticket hawkers' (oh so) discriminating taste. Hell! Most of them are RTVF student interns from nearby campuses (UCLA, USC, Occidential, CSUN) learning the ropes of marketing, a'la Apprentice-style.
Sheesh.
Re:WTF? Who are these so-called audience (Score:2)
BEST GAME BASED ON A MOVIE?!?!? (Score:1)
More accurate would be "Quickest cash-in on popular movie that nobody will remember in 3 months' time"
My all-time winner? : "Austin Powers: Operation Trivia", Yeah Baby!
Re: BEST GAME BASED ON A MOVIE?!?!? (Score:2)
This really is no different than the Oscar that goes to "Best Writing, Screenplay Based on Material Previously Produced or Published".
I think the virtue of translating one medium to another deserves some scrutiny. I would think it would take a good deal of effort to get a really solid translation of a movie or book into a video game without making the game far too static. Then again, I can't think of a single video game I've ever p
they got one right (Score:3, Funny)
BEST SUPPORTING FEMALE PERFORMANCE
Traci Lords in True Crime: New York City
I don't remember that movie though...
REPEAT AFTER ME: (Score:5, Insightful)
WASTE
OF
TIME
EVER
I mean jeebus, they even have a winner for Most Addictive Game Fueled by Mountain Dew category! Can you say retarded product placement ?
The video game industry does not need to sink this low
Re:REPEAT AFTER ME: (Score:2)
It hasn't been "Tech TV" for a while (Score:1)
This is bad noise... (Score:2)
F.E.A.R. (Vivendi Universal Games)
Sid Meier's Civilization IV (2K Games)
World of Warcraft (Blizzard Entertainment)
Battlefield 2 (Electronic Arts)
Now we (as in PC Gamers) have our own separate award? I kinda feel like the "red headed step child" knowing that even tho WoW took some awards at the same we're regarded as a separate group from the cool kids who have consoles. It's like having an Atari 2600 category for the home-brew enthusiasts. Such a sad
Re:This is bad noise... (Score:2)
Re:This is bad noise... (Score:1)
Many genres lead toward one platform or the other, such as sports and racing for consoles, while in-depth simulations like CivIV do better on the PC. Although some genres are split between the platforms, the product is often still different: consider RPGs, for example. Console RPGs tend to be cinematic and linear, like Final Fantasy, while PC RPGers e
Who are Spike TV? (Score:5, Interesting)
But who are they? More specifically, what about them gives them any credibility when it comes to judging computer and video games? Does their regular programming even focus on video games?
Re:Who are Spike TV? (Score:2)
But who are they? More specifically, what about them gives them any credibility when it comes to judging computer and video games? Does their regular programming even focus on video games?
It's kind of the "station for thirty-something couch potatoes". They play a lot of action movies and TV shows and some sports type of thing. I don't recall and video game only type TV shows but I do know game publishers advertise heavily on the station.
Re:Who are Spike TV? (Score:4, Funny)
Sure, 30-somethings that have the mentality of 12 year olds.
Re:Who are Spike TV? (Score:2)
Sometimes thats even giving them too much credit.
Re:Who are Spike TV? (Score:1, Funny)
Actually, that probably makes it the geekiest channel on cable in the US.
Re:Who are Spike TV? (Score:1)
Re:Who are Spike TV? (Score:1)
A crappy US cable channel that plays professional wrestling and Star Trek reruns. I dont recall them having any original programming worth mentioning.
>>More specifically, what about them gives them any credibility when it comes to judging computer and video games?
Nothing.
>>Does their regular programming even focus on video games?
Not really.
Re:Who are Spike TV? (Score:2)
Obligatory Vic Romano reference. (Score:2)
since when does it work that way? (Score:2)
The key to them is they are a cheap way to get big-name stars. Just give out some trinkets, and if you do it right, big stars will show up and then people will watch your show, then you can sell ads during it.
That's the long and short of it. Qualifications don't really come into play.
Re:Who are Spike TV? (Score:5, Informative)
Well, I figured someone else had given a real answer to this, but reading the other 6 responses at this point, no one has.
SpikeTV is the "First Network for Men", a slight at Lifetime and Oxygen, two networks that focus programming on women. It's kind of the "only white men aren't in a minority, and that makes us feel like a minority" thing.
Anyway, SpikeTV used to be "TNN", or "The Nashville Network". It's programming origionally was very country-music-culture oriented. That's hard to explain to someone from outside the US - I have no idea how "country music" is understood or digested in the UK. But, we have a channel over here called CMT, which is MTV for Kenny Chesney and Garth Brooks, also known as the special olympics of television. TNN, prior to becoming SpikeTV, had an odd mix of country music videos, documenteries on country music stars, hoe-downs (the redneck version of MTV's The Grind, i guess), and country themed shows like Bass Fishing and Dukes Of Hazzard reruns, "Walker, Texas Ranger", and others, as well as the WWF-slash-WWE's Monday Night RAW (professional wrestling).
Someone bought TNN, or whatever, and decided to change the format. The first thing I remember them doing is purchasing the syndication rights to "Star Trek - TNG", and when they did, they ran all-day marathons of TNG - seriously, from 9-am to 3-am (almost all US stations show infomertials in late night), nothing but episode after episode of Star Trek (it was heaven). They slowly moved away from the redneck-only programing, and now they air an eclectic mix. Their current lineup highlights are TNG, Deep Space 9, syndicated episodes of CSI:Crime Scene Investigation (the first 4 or 5 seasons only), Ultimate Fighter (pro wrestling, but people actually try to beat the fuck out of each other), and TNA Wrestling (WWE's competitor - WWE for some reason has jumped ship back to USA, where they will be more censored and pre-emped for dog shows several times this year alone).
There are other shows they air, like MXC, Cops, and a variety of others, but there's still several hours of both TNG and CSI each day.
Hope this helps.
Why, yes, I am between jobs at the moment. I start my new one on Monday, and I've been sitting at home with the wife and 18 month old for 3 weeks now.
~Will
Re:Who are Spike TV? (Score:1)
That would be Viacom, owners of CBS, UPN, Nickelodeon, MTV, BET, VH-1, etc.
Re:Who are Spike TV? (Score:2)
Woo, I start a new job on monday as well. Yay us.
Re:White Men (Score:2)
And the sad reality is:
1.) I feel dumber and somehow less useful to society if I watch star trek or CSI on spike tv, but I do it anyway
2.) If anyone says in public what you just said (white males are facing an identity crisis in a sea of minorities where society expects nothing good to come from them and they have no role models), you're accused of being a member of the Aryan Brotherhood or the Imperial Klans of America.
~w
Re:Who are Spike TV? (Score:2)
I don't listen to awards. They are just what people think which is often wrong, at least it is until the shows come out and people believe it.
Unreal 3 engine (Score:2)
Part 1 [llnwd.net], Part 2 [llnwd.net], Part 3 [llnwd.net], and finally, Part 4 [llnwd.net].
Re:Unreal 3 engine (Score:1)
Basically the Unreal 3 engine packs all of the features found in the Half-Life 2 engine and a few more. Most of these are features that make graphical features look 3D while using the least amount of polygons such as bricks sticking out from a wall or the grill on a air vent. I can't wait to see the first games using this new engine.
Of course, many of the new features on
It's embarrassing. (Score:2)
Re:It's embarrassing. (Score:2)
Re:It's embarrassing. (Score:1)
No Gamecube mention = No Legitimacy (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:No Gamecube mention = No Legitimacy (Score:2)
A true farce... (Score:5, Insightful)
How am I supposed to believe these awards are in any way legitimate if at least one of the winning games wasn't out when the votes were tallied? It would be like an unreleased movie being nominated for the Oscars. Sure, the Academy voters might see it, but what about the general public? For all we know, these wins were bought and paid for. (Granted, this is possible even with the Oscars, but then at least they wait a few months for the year to be over before announcing nominees...)
The saddest thing about this whole fiasco is that a lot of people will watch the broadcast when it comes out in December and probably won't realize it's pre-recorded... and won't realize that unlike at the time they're watching the awards, some of the winning games hadn't been out for more than a week...
Just my $.02...
Re:A true farce... (Score:1)
Your comment is dead on. I'd go so far as to say it's more like if they'd awarded King Kong the best picture Oscar last winter. I'd be shocked if more than a handful of these 'awards' weren't bought and paid for in the early planning stages of this fraud.
Big News Outlets (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Big News Outlets (Score:1)
Enjoy!
Not trolling here, I promise (Score:1)
Re:Not trolling here, I promise (Score:2)
Half-Life 2 was released in 2004, it would be odd for it to be turning up in a 2005 awards show. (Although this entire award show does seem to be a load of crap).
Original song? (Score:3, Interesting)
So, what qualifies as original music? Existing music that was licensed for the game?
Apperently.
BEST ORIGINAL SONG
"Maybe We Crazy" by 50 Cent in 50 Cent: Bulletproof (Vivendi Universal Games) "Lights and Sounds" by Yellowcard in Burnout Revenge (Electronic Arts)
"When I Get Angry" by Spider Loc in Madden NFL 06 (Electronic Arts)
"Getting Up Anthem: Part I" by Talib Kweli and Rakim in Mark Ecko's Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure (Atari, Inc.)
"Error Operator" by Taking Back Sunday in Fantastic 4 (Activision, Inc.)
Same for BEST SOUNDTRACK, did they really bother to lisent all the really original music of the other game?
Luckily the BEST ORIGINAL SCORE category wasn't all licensed music, but... best soundtrack and best score? Isn't that the same thing? The game music composers are not appreciated enough, these money bagging
PS. MTV is pulling the same crap with their game awards.
Video Games bigger than Hollywood (Score:1)
Whatever Happened To... (Score:1)
It was a great show and not mega-hype driven like the current crop of videogame awards shows. The first G-forgia awards show was also better, but not its turned int
Just an Idea (Score:1)
Re:OUTGOING (Score:2)