Horribly Bad Game Designs 206
A reader writes: "WomenGamers.Com takes a stab at coming up with some horribly bad game designs. Check out their latest editorial, "What if? ... No Scratch That..." This article made me laugh -- the driving game inebriation was a great idea. What's your worst game design idea?
Re:Been done before that (Score:2)
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My vote (Score:1)
Re:Games Jeff K would love... (Score:1)
Re:New Rainbow 6 game! (Score:1)
I'll see if I can dig up the URL, but it's still in development (and no, it's not an official scenario, heh).
Re:Who Needs A Drunk Driving Video Game? (Score:2)
Columbine Shootout (Score:2)
Actually, I'm somewhat surprised nobody's made a Columbine High School level for Quake or Half-Life or something...
Been done... (Score:1)
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pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate [ncsu.edu].
Sim games (Score:4)
Theme Park and Theme Hospital both prove that you can "sim" pretty much anything and get a fun game out of it. Sim Zoo, Sim School, Sim Office...
The sim game I'd most like to see is Sim/Theme Pub.... and here's a verbatim copy of a post I did elsewhere not so long ago...
I guess it would be a Theme Park type setup, with punters milling around:
Multiplayer you'd be competing for the same clientele and they'd wander from one pub to another.
On top of that you'd have Theme Park style research units, you might have to do some stock management (That always irritated me in Theme Park though: reordering stocks was just a chore... I think you ought to be able to set thresholds where if the stock drops to a certain level you automatically reorder... in a pub you'd have to adjust the thresholds by season...).
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Wing Commander III (Score:1)
PainterBoy (Score:1)
There was a game (in Finland) for Commodore 64 called PainterBoy - game based on characters of Tikkurila paint factory TV advertisement characters... Not a bad game, though, but it quickly got boring.
Re:SimComputer (Score:1)
Re:Inebriation? been their, seen it, done it (Score:2)
And of course, in my favourite tasteless game, Diana Death Driver. It was a driving sim that someone did a while back in Shockwave flash. You had to drive a Mercedes through a Paris tunnel while avoiding the paparazzi...
Virtually all these games already exist! (Score:2)
Several police forces already use a Drunk Driver Simulator for "re-educating" people who failed a breath test.
DIY/Home Improvement sims already exist at an infant/kindergarten level; here in the UK we have TV ads for a game that features a children's activity set which overlays a PC keyboard where they can hammer, saw etc (ideally using the plastic toy hammer and plastic toy saw provided, I suppose, but for stress relief I'd use the real thing).
I remember that SimElection games went through a brief period of popularity in the 1980's as text based statistics games in the same vein as Football/Soccer Manager games. And isn't there a certain element of this already present in the tax raising subroutines of SimCity?
Professional Painter... well I definitely recall playing a a Commodore 64 game where you were a poster paster (probably called "Poster Paster" I guess) who had to put up advertising hoardings, that's pretty damn close.
As for Ruthless Revenge or The World's Oldest Profession, well don't Dungeon Master and Leisure Suit Larry already contain these elements?
Now if you want *really* tasteless, who can remember "CAN OF WORMS", a ZX81 compilation including "ROYAL FLUSH", where you had to unblock the drains of Buckingham Palace without disturbing the Queen on the, er, throne, as it were? Was advertised in every single damn issue of the UK's "Popular Computing Weekly" magazine ever published IIRC.
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Metal Detecting from Hell (Score:2)
One of the crackpots who came in nearly every day always had a great idea for a game, but wanted us to write it. He called it Metal Detecting From Hell.
You were the metal detector, and things would pop out of the groubd and attack you.
'Gangsta?' (Score:2)
That sounds like a blatent ripoff of Pimp Wars.
Re:would SimElection be so bad? (Score:1)
Re:Offtopic... but I couldn't resist. (Score:1)
Re:Kill the Argies! (Score:1)
There was also a game called Harrier Attack where you flew across a scrolling island, but IIRC there was no explicit falklands imagery invoved.
CrotchRot: The Golden Years (Score:1)
There are many variations of play available, but the virii are varied and plentiful. Batter up!
Re:would SimElection be so bad? (Score:1)
Uhm... you've got your wings reversed. Mr. Buchanan is rather right winged.
--Joe--
Re:would SimElection be so bad? (Score:1)
First things first: If we're talking about an American politician, wouldn't it be most appropriate to classify him using the American sense of the terminology?
As for whether American and British senses of the terms "left wing" and "right wing" are reversed, I can't comment specifically. Here in the US, "right wing" is generally accepted to mean "Conservative" and "left wing" is generally accepted to mean "Liberal". And yes, I know the meanings of "Conservative" and "Liberal" are unclear as well. (Consider Japan's most conservative (by US definition) party, the so-called Liberal Democratic Party.)
The current US political definitions puts Liberals on the "gov't can solve social ills" stance, advocating civil rights, and often advocating bigger taxes to pay for it all. Similarly, it puts Conservatives on the "family values" plank, which ends up meaning "lets push the narrow minded religious views of a vocal minority on the nation as a whole", and are supposedly more fiscally minded (read: tax cuts for the rich). I don't subscribe to either side's beliefs 100%, but I lean further liberal than conservative. And I'm certainly not Libertarian. (And yes, I've taken the little "Are you a Libertarian?" political quiz that Libertarians are fond of handing out, and came out rather on the liberal axis, rather than the libertarian axis.)
The US's right wing is closest to Britain's Conservative Party, and the US's left wing is closest to Britain's Labour Party.
Anyway, that ends my politics discussion for today.
--Joe--
Re:WinDrunk! (Score:1)
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Re:College dorm sleepover. (Score:1)
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Re:Sorry, Hemos (Score:2)
This article wasn't News. It wasn't Nerdy. And it doesn't matter.
Slashdot's star is rapidly fading, in my opinion. Moderation has been a significant failure: as a meta-moderator, I saw many posts mis-moderated, and as a reader, I see many posts that are two-bit opinion, idiot babble or off-topic. The quality of stories is declining: less newsworthy, less innovative, a poorer quality of writing and simply not interesting.
My user id is in the low thousands, and only because I didn't bother logging in for a month or two. For the number of postings I've made (a few dozen), I've got good karma: as far as I remember, I've never been marked down below my bonus score. I've meta-moderated with care, I've provided feedback and suggestions to the Slashdot team, and I've been a faithful daily reader.
But in the past week, I've given up moderation, have become utterly disinterested in reading comments, am about to move my postings threshold to three or four, and may just walk away from Slashdot entirely.
My hope for this posting is that it'll be moderated up to a level 5, so that it gets some attention from the alpha geeks.
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Re:would SimElection be so bad? (Score:2)
Re:would SimElection be so bad? (Score:1)
Re:Inebriation? Nethack! (Score:1)
If only identifying real fungi were so simple....
OK, I'll bite. (Score:1)
I'll start with agreeing with you - I think indeed that the "women's movement" was about equality; also that there are some truly weird-ass losers out there who do want vengeance or superiority or something.
But I don't think that womengamers.com fits into that latter category. I visit the site from time to time; they seem pretty sane.
Now, consider your own logic - I can see why a minority needs a special interest group, but
women, making up more than half of the Earth's population, are hardly a minority anywhere.
Now I won't go into the need for a continueed women's movement and that being a minority or a majority isn't everything. Check out Amnesty International's womens' human rights campaign [amnesty.org] if you ned more on that score.
Bet with regard to this site: isn't the whole point precisely that women are a minority on the net and as gamers? We have to put up with all sorts of crap from some of the guys, as you see every time someone posts something about women on slashdot. (Watch replies to this and see it grow.) I'm glad you're not one of them, but please - give us a break when we want a time out from the verbal abuse.
heh (Score:1)
this is nothing compared with the "water effect [aug.edu]" in nitrus oxide - it's a trippy effect where everything on the screen is warping and moving.
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Re:How about the _Real_ Escape from Titanic game? (Score:1)
Worst game ever, and there is a Cops game (Score:2)
And as far as a boring Cops-style game (where you play camera operator while everything in the viewfinder overacts) is concerned, there's one for the kids - Pokemon Snap!
WinDrunk! (Score:1)
http://www.ghettosoft.com/windrunk.html [ghettosoft.com]
it was pretty funny but it was meant to teach you about not drinking and driving
Dope Wars (Score:2)
Re:Horribly Bad Website Ideas (Score:1)
That's true. I must have been thinking of "dyspepsia".
and I'm confused why you are using this term in this context, considering the word means "having or showing a hatred and distrust of women"...
Then you should check out their website [womengamers.com]. It should clear things up for you.
Re:WinDrunk! (Score:1)
Nasty Game (Score:1)
Back in high school we used to write all kinds of ridiculous games, some were actually pretty fun. But my friend came up with the worst. It was called Galaxy.
First he spread the rumor that the game had been in secret development for a long time (several months was considered a long time, back then) and hyped it as the greatest game anyone had ever seen. Hype was applied quite liberally, until the release, when it was turned loose on the unsuspecting users.
The game would display a few startup messages, and then "Initializing the galaxy..." and I think some kind of activity indicator. Then it would just sit there.
Eventually, users would tire of the "initialization" and press Ctrl-C. At this point, the amount of time that they had waited (before pressing Ctrl-C) on the initialization screen became their score. They would then proceed to the High Score screen, which showed the most gullible/patient users.
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Re:How about the _Real_ Escape from Titanic game? (Score:1)
Anyone care to guess... (Score:1)
Jokes aside, this whole thing boggles me. I fail to understand how "men are inferior to women" is in any way a better ideology than "women are inferior to men". I fail to understand why men who want men-only institutions are chided and labeled as chauvinistic pigs, while more and more women-specific organisations, web sites and special interest groups show up. (On that last one: I can see why a minority needs a special interest group, but women, making up more than half of the Earth's population, are hardly a minority anywhere.)
I thought the "women's movement" was about equality - to be respected and considered as fellows and worthy competitors to men - and not about a "war against men", moved apparently by little other than vengeance.
To clarify, I myself am not a sexist of any kind; I believe in civil equality. However, that seems to be far from the case whereas the "women's movement" is concerned, and I'd like to understand that. Otherwise, I'd just give up and say the world has gone crazy.
(Nice article, by the way.)
Moderators take note: the above post was not a troll, nor was it flamebait.
Advanced Lawnmower Simulator LIVES! (Score:1)
Re:would SimElection be so bad? (Score:1)
IRS (Score:1)
You too can be an auditor tracing 'entertainment' expenses to porn sites and massage parlors.
You too can hide away millions, gambling your deception spells will hold
ROTT had Psychadelics (Score:2)
One of the only two FPSes I can play without getting seasick, Rise of the Triad had psychadelic mushrooms that made you stagger about, lurching to and fro, as all the active items in the level palette-spun. Pretty Nifty.
Forget driving games... try firing a drunk missle while high on mushrooms: most of the time you accidently unload them into the floor or wall next to you. Ludicrous Gibs!
(Incidently, the other FPS was Doom. Anything after that seems to have the perspectives slightly off, and I can't handle it. ROTT was farkin' fast, so it's not a speed issue, and I've played Quake 2 on a SOTA gamers maching, so it's not the frames per second... dunno. I also tend to get sick in the back of large vehicles. )
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Evan
Inebriation? Nethack! (Score:2)
In fact, I know a 9-year old kid who for a couple of weeks played Nethack only to find the nearest mold, kill it, eat it, and then run around the levels.
Kaa
Cnet did something like this... (Score:1)
Re:Dungeon Keeper tries for that (Score:2)
lame game contest (Score:1)
Re:Really REALLY bad (bad!) game idea (Score:1)
Re:Old Apple games (Score:1)
Inebriated games... (Score:1)
Colin Winters
inebriation levels (Score:2)
Any game with "Drink Beer" and "Take A Leak" buttons is ok in my book.
The Q game (Score:1)
The point of the game was to press the Q key over and over until time ran out.
The game would display the number of times you pressed Q and then tell you whether you won or lost.
The length of time the game lasted was random... somewhere between 5 and 60 seconds as I recall.
In addition, whether you won or lost was random, having nothing to do with either
a) The number of times you pressed Q or
b) The length of time you were allowed.
Man that was a great game...
- StaticLimit
Masturbation simulator (Score:1)
Too bad I've lost the original tape...
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"The crux of the biscuit is the Apostrophe(*)" - FZ
Inebriation levels (Score:1)
in my estimation this is not a bad game design, but an ingenious informative tool for teenagers who think they are indestructible and can handle their liquor.
though i must admit i am drawn to the concept of drunken Poll Position.
Birdshit (Score:1)
A Rockstar Ate My Hampster (remember that!?) (Score:1)
It's Mazzembly ('97) of course (Score:1)
yeah horrible game design, and it has been implemented also.
Basic idea: you are a demo scener in a party, trying to improve your fame level. Each time you talk to some elite you gain fame level when you talk to your fellow lamer afterwards. But beware of the evil orgas!
MAZM97.ZIP [mpoli.fi] (dos)the real thing [assembly.org]
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Re:Tasteless sim (Score:1)
It might work in win95 dos shell or it might not. It might work with emm386 or it might not. 8 bit graphics modes WON'T work.
College dorm sleepover. (Score:1)
I probably wouldn't play it, but it might appeal to someone.
-Restil
Re:Draconian Overlord Simulator (Score:1)
Re:Inebriation? Monty Mole! (Score:1)
And Gremlin Graphics's last Monty Mole game worth mentioning, Auf Wiedersehen Monty, included bottles of wine that had unpredictable effects on your controls if you grabbed one. Rather a pain if one of the required items was surrounded by bubbly!
Re:Tasteless sim (Score:2)
Oy, you kids. Never played Percy the Potty Pigeon [digitalsea.net], huh?
And speaking of crap games, the denizens of comp.sys.sinclair have been holding contests for the past few years to see who can make the most tongue-in-cheek parodies of rotten games past (and present). The results are the comp.sys.sinclair Crap Games Compos [freeuk.com]. This year there's a similar competition for Commodore 64 fans [commodore64.org.uk] as well. These guys are totally bent, I tell ya. Scan these pages and look at how many of the ideas all of you are coming up with that've already been done.
Custer's revenge (real!) (Score:2)
The object of the game is to guide a naked, horny, General Custer across the screen while avoiding incoming arrow fire. Waiting at the other side is a naked Indian maiden, and you earn points by... scoring. The slogan of the game was something like "When you score, you score!"
http://www.classicgaming.com/rotw/cu ster.shtml [classicgaming.com]
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Re:Once I saw a game... (Score:1)
Yes there is a zillion different endings. All depends on how you treat your adopted daughter. If I can't make a living by drawing stuff with my hand in the future, at least I'm a big anime/manga fan. This thing's drawing quality can be rated the right up there with Mr. Miyazake's movie posters! The Sequal is very good too, but by that time (95?) I don't play game anymore. My tears can fall down right now when I think of the fun I had playing this game.
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Offtopic... but I couldn't resist. (Score:1)
I know that in the UK this means cigarette, but not everyone knows that here in the US.
Reminds me of the time, me and a buddy of mine was down in the Underground and my friend lit up. A cop quickly came over and said "Hey, No fags allowed in the Underground!". My friend didn't know what "fags" meant in the UK and almost decked the Cop. I fell over laughing!
Steven Rostedt
I thought this *was* the game (Score:3)
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Once I saw a game... (Score:2)
-Dave Turner.
Sim Bill Gates (Score:2)
Old Apple games (Score:1)
Beer Run was a levels game, there the goal was to collect beers.
Roach Motel had this little hotel on the screen. Bugs would run out, and you would try to squish them with a big foot.
Our secret is gamma-irradiated cow manure
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Sim Talk Show? (Score:1)
If I only had either a whole bunch of time on my hands, or a whole bunch of money. Or both.
Peacekeeper (Score:1)
the idea is simple. its a first-person shooter. you play a national guardsman in the 60's, quelling peaceful protests and such with guns. the first level is Kent State: kill all the rampaging hippies before they get a chance to run away!
have fun
dongoodman
Drinking Simulator (Score:1)
Of course in our classroom it became a competition to see how good people could get at the games, despite the handicap of ever-decreasingly responsive controls. And yes of course once the teachers realized we actually ENJOYED the damn program they yanked it. =)
Microsoft the game (Score:1)
Then for the grand finale, see if you can out do the real Microsoft in dealing with the DOJ. Can you stall until you buy Bush the presidency and save the company from a break up?
When you've finished, graph your performance against the real Microsoft. Do you have it in you to be smarter and nastier than Bill Gates?
tangent - art and creation are a higher purpose
Not so funny the third time around (Score:1)
tangent - art and creation are a higher purpose
Some of those exist... (Score:1)
~Anguirel (lit. Living Star-Iron)
"Veni; Vidi; Vi C++"
would SimElection be so bad? (Score:2)
Then again, I admit I'd probably resort to double-dealing and backstabbing to get elected to my virtual office, too. Plus, there would of course have to be the optional intern PWAD....
Tasteless sim (Score:2)
We already know a bit about this... (Score:2)
I agree a bit (Score:2)
Well... (Score:2)
Wasn't this story already posted before the quickies article? Now it has a newer date stamp...
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Been done before that (Score:2)
Dungeon Keeper tries for that (Score:2)
Even in the multi-player games like Ultima Online, you really can't get that true kick-a-puppy kind of evil going, since getting PKed is such a common experience and death is not really ever a setback.
The gaming industry is wide open for a game that truly allows you to role-play an evil character with true-to-life results (IE: You usually get ahead doing it.)
I remember that! (Score:2)
Re:I thought this *was* the game (Score:2)
And then there are the trolls, fireballs, multiple planes (freshmeat.net, or the closely-guarded nyt.com), gods/wizards/implementors, and famous characters ("...BREAK HEAD WITH OPENSOURCE CD!!!"). And the all-important plusses. Sadly, I myself am stuck on a cursed -3 box of windowing...
- Michael Cohn
Draconian Overlord Simulator (Score:5)
I see the Draconian Overlord Simulator all the time on my friends' Linus computers. It can't be a very good system if that's the best game they can get their hands on...
- Michael Cohn
Inebriation? been their, seen it, done it (Score:2)
Very Good! (Score:2)
Re:Inebriation? been their, seen it, done it (Score:2)
Really REALLY bad (bad!) game idea (Score:5)
Once I had this dream (more like a nightmare) about a game called SimKampf. As you can probably gather from the title, it involved building and maintaining a concentration camp, as well as harvesting "resources" for new construction materials and technology.
The really disturbing part was that in my dream, the game was addictive as hell, sort of like the original SimCity. It even looked similar; imagine that instead of drawing power lines with your cursor, you had to draw electric fences. Oh, and there were no residential or commercial area's. Just miles and miles of factory-like buildings, complete with smoking chimneys...
Needless to say I was kinda freaked out when I woke up the next morning. I mean, it was probably just a late-night-pizza-and-war-movie-induced dream, but I couldn't help but feel ashamed. It was, without a doubt, the single most horrific game idea I've ever had.
Ultimate Lawnmower Simulator (Score:2)
I remember this from the heady days of the Sinclair Spectrum - you had a screen full of "grass" (green squares) and a man with a lawnmower. Your mission was to cut all the grass, upon which you were greeted with the next level - another screen full of grass! Endless hours of mowing fun :)
Some missing games... (Score:2)
A really new concept would be
SimSim - the ultimate simulator simulator! Simulate simulated worlds, simulated flight simulations,
As for politically (in)correct ones, how about
SimMurder - kill someone for no particular reason just to see if you're intelligent enough to escape the cops. A must have - and great to gain practice before doing it in reality!
SimMicrosoft - play Bill and all. Create products that suck and crush all the better competition by stealing their products, making them worse, and marketing it as innovation, expand your monopolies to other sectors by illegal means until you own the world!
For spinoffs, how about some of these:
RealityTV: The Game - film people dying instead of coming to their assistance! Block off ambulances to get more scenes of people suffering, and thereby higher ratings!
Oh, and, of course, there's always SimToilet, including a stench synthesizer card for your computer.
let's call it windoze (Score:2)
Of course, no-one would ever make anything as silly, tedious and pointless as this, let alone play it. Would they?
Life and Death (Score:2)
The worst part was operating. Usually you had obtained a warez'd or copied version of the game, and had absolutely no documentation whatsoever. Lots of strange, inhuman tools sat before you. I remember giving a patient atropine because I thought it was anasthaesia. Oops. He didn't live long.
I also had a thing for this one game in whence this blue hedgehog in red sneakers ran around grabbing gold rings for no good reason...
Re:Really REALLY bad (bad!) game idea (Score:2)
Factory (Score:2)
Factory was deliberately designed to be dull and boring. That's the whole point.
Re:New Rainbow 6 game! (Score:2)
But while we're on the subject, why not create a new parody of the Sims. We could call it the Reno's.
kwsNI
From the makers of Bar-Tender: (Score:2)
-Earthman
New Rainbow 6 game! (Score:3)
Elian: The Rescue!
-Earthman
Perhaps not-so-dumb game idea... (Score:3)
We've already got Tamagotchi variant in the droves, including a Tamagothi, but there's room for niche markets (are we a niche, or what?)...
Comes in a variety of cases, such as chrome, beige, fishbowl, and penguin. Has Jolt, Ramen, Quake and Flame buttons to allow you to interact with your little pet coder. Depending on how you treat your Geeki, you might end up with a CorpSuitGeeki, an OpenSourceGeeki, a QuicheEaterGeeki, a PerlMonkGeeki, and many more! Treat them right, and they might even start producing their own kernel patches, perl poetry, or maybe even start reverse-engineering proprietary protocols!
And if you tire of your little abomin... er, pet, there's a special recessed "Indict" button to make sure you never hear from it again...
(Warning - do not use TamaGeekis with IR ports in the vicinity of Furbys. OK? Don't say we didn't warn you.)
How about the _Real_ Escape from Titanic game? (Score:4)
No. This should be "Escape: from Titanic the Movie". In this game, your aim should be to live as regular a life as possible, whilst avoiding everything connected with the aformentioned film. Go to the video store, gain points for hiring out a Hong Kong action film and a piece of French surrealism, but lose points for catching sight of a Titanic poster as you pass the "Really Popular Films" section. Take a taxi ride to a hip alternative nightclub, but get penalised for hearing Celine Dion wailing over the car stereo three times on the way there, and for hearing a couple of young girls trying to get into the club gushing about Leonardo is just so to die for.
The possibilities are endless. Completely inane and pointless, but endless...
Bad Idea. (Score:2)