Wolfenstein Linux Binaries Available 171
gurb writes: "Acording to Christian Antkow's plan (finger xian@idsoftware.com or see webdog.org) linux binaries for the latest installment of Wolfenstein are out.
Grab it all over at id's ftp server, enjoy!"
Loki (Score:1)
The Lokigames site shows their latest two works as Postal and Heavy Metal FAKK 2 - neither are 'big names', highly sucessful or new releases.
Re:Loki (Score:1)
Re:Uhm (Score:2, Insightful)
MIRROR!! (Score:4, Informative)
http://shaz.dhs.org/~joe/wolfmp-linux-1.0.b2.x86.
I look forward to seeing my bandwidth die.
JoeLinux
Re:MIRROR!! (Score:1)
Forgive me for any spelling error. Nimda just gave my win2000 box a new meaning to "reinstal"... I knew I should have fought harder to let them install some *nix here!!! THE PAIN!
Re:MIRROR!! (Score:1)
Re:MIRROR!! (Score:1)
Re:MIRROR!! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:MIRROR!! (Score:1)
Which is why most Linux distros ship with MD5s of the ISO, CPAN (the Perl packaging system) ships MD5s of all the tarballs, etc...
Speaking of which:
9f7d2b07aec562c4c685e3d628e95c4d wolfmp-linux-1.0.b2.x86.run
Oddly enough, the tarball DOES have hooks inside itself for an MD5 self-check - but they aren't used. Of course, this doesn't guard against malicious tampering (just change the checksum when you change the binary!), but would detect corrupt downloads. It does seem to do a CRC check though...
Re:MIRROR!! (Score:1)
Its an edonkey link if you have it, it runs on Linux as well. [edonkey2000.com]
Aggragate geek bandwidth damnit :)
Re:MIRROR!! (Score:1)
From Linuxgames (Score:5, Informative)
Return To Castle Wolfenstein Linux Binary Released - Tuesday Nov 27 23:30:38 2001 - Updated by Michael [mailto]
id Software [idsoftware.com] has released the multiplayer Linux binary for Return To Castle Wolfenstein [activision.com]. The announcement was made in Christian Antkow's .plan file [finger]. Big ups to Timothee Besset.
The 4.57M download is available at:
ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/wolf/linux/wolfmp -linux-1.0.b2.x86.run [idsoftware.com].
Disclosure: I am an employee of Activision, Inc.
Here are the install notes:
Re:From Linuxgames (Score:3, Insightful)
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Re:From Linuxgames (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:From Linuxgames (Score:1, Interesting)
I would think that if we learned nothing else from the whole "dot com" era it's that people love free things but are completely unwilling to then pay for them. As numerous articles on even Slashdot have pointed out, people are willing to go to great lengths to give nothing back to the creators, installing junkbuster or even no longer going to certain sites that have ads. God forbid anyone try to make a dime on the stuff they're producing.
So sure, millions of downloads will tell id something, but nothing that will make them want to release a commercial Linux version. There's no market for it.
Re:From Linuxgames (Score:2)
You *could* presume that all the people who buy the Windows version and download the Linux binary are buying the game with the intent to play it on Windows... but that seems rather shaky ground. Much more likely is that a large number of these customers are buying the Windows version of the game only because the Linux binary is available. This most certainly is a market.
Re:From Linuxgames (Score:1)
Re:From Linuxgames (Score:1)
Re:From Linuxgames (Score:1)
Re:From Linuxgames (Score:2)
The linux gaming market may be unprofitable even if (say) 50% of all downloads of the Linux client represent a sale made on the basis of that client's availability. Hence, our positions need not be incompatible.
Re:From Linuxgames (Score:1)
It's not like the binaries are going to do you any good if you don't have the rest of the game...
Re:From Linuxgames (Score:1)
Re:From Linuxgames (Score:2)
Yes, there exist lots of people who are unwilling to pay for their software -- but those aren't the people who are downloading this file, because it's useless to anyone who hasn't already put up the cash to pay for the game.
Claiming that there is *no* market for Linux gaming is rather harsh -- I've purchased (that's right, *purchased*, as in sent money!) games from Loki, and will likely continue to do so in the future (from them or elsewhere, when I see something I really like). That the market is so small as to make persuing it an unuseful distraction for a company such as Id which doesn't specialize in such a thing, I may grant. That the market is utterly worthless is disputed, however, by the very existance of commercial games for Linux.
that's not the point of junkibuster (Score:2)
> the creators, installing junkbuster or even no longer going to certain
> sites that have ads.
I don't believe I've ever blocked an ad that didn't blink at me first. When my 200mhz K6, a fairly fast machine at the time, was brought to its knees by javing two (2) web pages open at the same time (java disabled), I put in junkbuster. Now it's just habit bo block anything that blinks at me.
hawk
Re:that's not the point of junkibuster (Score:1)
Re:From Linuxgames (Score:3, Informative)
Tux Games [tuxgames.com] will be selling the Windows version bundled with a custom CD that has the Linux binaries and "everything you should need to get it running."
Demo? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Demo? (Score:2, Informative)
Download here [3ddownloads.com].
Re:Demo? (Score:2, Informative)
No SP=No Interest (Score:1, Informative)
Plus you have to install the bugger on a Win partition.
Re:No SP=No Interest (Score:2)
Re:From Linuxgames (Score:1)
RTCW and WineX (Score:1)
Great... (Score:3, Funny)
And Final Fantasy X just around the corner...
Re:Great... (Score:1, Offtopic)
What, they've already made nine sequels to that movie!?
Re:Great... (Score:2)
Re:Great... (Score:2)
Re:Great... (Score:2)
Mirror (Score:4, Informative)
Location: http://realityx.net/wolfmp-linux-1.0.b2.x86.run [realityx.net]
morons (Score:1)
WARNING !!! (Score:2, Funny)
Explain please, why no single player? (Score:1)
Re:Explain please, why no single player? (Score:1)
Blue's Comment Section [bluesnews.com]
Re:Explain please, why no single player? (Score:2)
Re:Explain please, why no single player? (Score:1)
I must be like the Linux games king! I gottem all!
Issues (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Issues (Score:1)
The actual game was made by Grey Matter Studios, (with another company handling the multiplay), I think id were just there in a 'creative control' role.
Re:Issues (Score:1)
Re:Issues (Score:4, Flamebait)
I can't believe your complaining that the company has put forth at least _some_ effort in this. They could easily turn around and say "If you want to play the game at all, you have to install Windows". There is no market for Linux games, no matter how many posts you see on /. that seem to the contrary. Maybe later when Linux has more of a foothold in the desktop OS space (that's another whole other holy war), but for right now, it makes no sense for a company to invest ANY money in developing a game's client for Linux. Should they invest in developing/porting server side code? Yes. The more servers, the more people can connect and enjoy the game which hopefuly means more sales, but the fact they are making an effort to provide _something_ to a market that they will lose money on should be applauded.
Face it, we live in a windows based world. It's great that there are people that don't have windows installed at all. I seriously, truly envy you. I wish I could get rid of my install of Win98, but there is just too much stuff I'm not willing to give up yet. People like me that won't buy any new Windows software are in the minority in the consumer pool, and people like you that don't even run windows is even smaller. Don't complain that id (or whoever) is making a smart business choice by not investing their time and money into what is in the grand scheme of things, a black whole.
psxndc
Re:We Don't Exist !!!! (Score:1)
But (and this is the catch) you'll probably need to sell them (huge gasp of horror from the free software crowd) so you can have money for marketing and packaging and whatnot.
Oh, yeah, and you'll need to copy protect them so they don't get traded around easily.
Do you begin to see why this won't work
Re:We Don't Exist !!!! (Score:2)
It's hard to pay for games that don't exist.
I will *NOT* buy any windoze games. I *DO* however own linux games from Loki. If they don't want my money, fine. Games aren't such a necessary part of my life that I'm willing to bother with having windoze on any of my machines. Too bad.
I'm sure there are others who won't buy it until it is linux native either. What's the point of having wolf if you don't get to play singleplayer? Network will just be another quake. yay.
Re:We Don't Exist !!!! (Score:1)
psxndc
Re:Issues (Score:1)
I shot off an email to activision on the 19th of November (2 days prior to this going gold) asking if they had plans to release the game in linux and was met with a stock response on how company policy was to not discuss unreleased games. Following up on the question they responded on the 28th:
So I guess I will have to wait until Loki, Tuxgames, or somebody tries to port the whole game. Hopefully someone does, and hopefully linux gamers will buy it. I wish game developers would take a hard look at how Black Isle has decided to simultaneously release Never Winter Nights on linux, Mac, and windows platforms. The excitement that this has generated is phenomenal, and there is a good chance, IMHO, NWN will break records in the linux department.
Re:Issues (Score:1)
Says who? And who says you've been tossed aside? You've got the ability to run your dedicated server, and you can play multiplayer. The poster to whom you replied is absolutely correct. Id have NO financial reason to be doing a Linux port. They might want your good will, but they already gave you multiplayer for nothing, don't be an ingrate.
I know you won't agree with this, but if ever a game was a reason to install Windows this is it. Single player was excellent - the end boss is easy to defeat once you work out how, and the zombies could be a little tedious, but 90% is tense, fun action. It really is a worthy successor to the original. Excellent, balanced weapons, smart enemies, great maps, sensible side tasks and puzzles. Maybe I'll go start it again on "hurt me plenty" now.
I hope someone does a Linux version too, and I hope they make money doing it. The first is doubtful and the second even more unlikely given the time that must elapse before a Linux version is available. I hope NWN does OK but it's got some tough competition in AD&D RPGs right now.
try this (Score:5, Insightful)
It should read something like the following...
Dear Sirs,
I humbly bow down at your feet, for thou hast graced upon we humble followers of the Linux faith, another one of the greatest games of all time.
We of the Linux faith understand that you will be compensated in no way whatsoever for your efforts to provide we few with the pleasure of playing your games, so I must reiterate how greatful we truly are.
Sincerely,
Whiny bitch
P.S. And if you have time, do you think it would be possible for someone to write an installer? But only if you're feeling really generous. If not, that's ok, I'll just use wine to install it, I am an intelligent Linux user afterall, so it's no problem for my whiny ass.
P.P.S. My humble thanks again.
And if they still don't write an installer, you STFU and use wine to install it and thank the Linux Gods that there are people on this earth who do things even when it doesn't help them in any way. And do so quickly before you anger the Linux Gods and the folks at ID for being so unappreciative.
Damn... you'd think people could appreciate things once in a while...
Re:try this (Score:1)
Want to help your fellow Linux gamers? (Score:5, Insightful)
1) The current binaries are multiplayer full version only. No single player.
2) The game must be installed under Wine or Windows. Which sucks...
Now for the interesting bit:
Everyone will love you if you fix this piece of software (or make your own) to work with modern Wise Installer archives [ed.ac.uk].
The Wolf3D CD contaisn a 500MB win32 setup.exe file in which the necessary pak files for the linus install go. Thsi is in wise installer format, which is similar to zip with different headers. Coders - if you can work out a way of extracting this archive under Linux, you have my external respect and the love of Linux Gamers everywhere. It should be pretty easy from my research (the software mentioned is non free qmail license source code) for someone with the skills, but I'm still teaching myself Kernighan and Ritchie.
Re:Want to help your fellow Linux gamers? (Score:1)
Re:Want to help your fellow Linux gamers? (Score:1)
Here's a lame analogy: If you want to go down the street one block, don't take the ferry across the river and a bus back across the bridge to get there. Just walk down one block. :p
Mirror, mirror... (Score:2, Informative)
Here's the mirrors :
http://ftp.stenstad.net/mirrors/rtcw/wolfmp-lin
ftp://ftp.stenstad.net/mirrors/rtcw/wolfmp-linu
Re:Mirror, mirror... (Score:1)
Re:Mirror, mirror... (Score:2)
Interesting thought. (Score:1)
Go ahead and mod me down, I'm still asleep and am opt to ramble anyhting at this point.
Re:Interesting thought. (Score:1)
wolf was the first, I played the first game 1000s times...
besides there aren't that many quality games that work on linux, and no I don't have a windows to play games... (nor do I want one for that matter)
Re:Interesting thought. (Score:1)
Re:Interesting thought. (Score:1)
Not that it means much.... (Score:2)
It means a lot that they are this willing to put in the extra effort. Thanks, id.
OS X (Score:2)
Re:OS X (Score:1)
Re:OS X (Score:2)
Both my iBook and my Wintel PC are 600mHz, so the iBook is faster.
Finally! (Score:2)
I have read some people complaining about the installation. Yes, it sucks, but at least they ported it. Durring the initital talks about RTCWS, they said there wouldn't be a Linux port. Not even the current binary download.
Be happy they changed there minds.
If ID Software is saying they just barly broke even on Q3A for Linux, why don't they have both versions on the CD ? Then just have the server browser detect the OS its running on for stats and what not. I think that in it self would help move more people to Linux.
Games on Linux is a large reason why people aren't switching. Loki games has done a *VERY* good job at it so far. There installation program that they GPLed, is being used in some cool places. For example, all Borland products released on Linux use it
If they would only port Everquest to Linux, you would have a swarm of people switching to 100% Linux.
At any rate, thanks ID and (Gray matter is it ?) for the Linux port.
Re:Finally! (Score:1)
Thank you idSoftware! (Score:1)
Yesterday I showed some friends multiplayer RTCW under Linux and for many of them I think it was the first time that they have ever contemplated Linux as a gaming platform.
The game rocks. I'm your humble servant!
network firewall issues (Score:2)
I suspect it might be linked to the fact that RTCW seems to request both the server port (which is normal) and a specific client port (which is rare). Ie- port 27960 on both client and server. This might be interferring with ip masquerading. I'm not sure. Anyone get it going?
Re:network firewall issues (Score:1)
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Re:network firewall issues (Score:3, Informative)
The lameness filter won't let me post it here. I've put the necessary changes to your firewall script here [psc.edu]. I used the same tool to generate my ipchains firewall and added this. I can play Quake3 and Wolf MP test just fine.
Re:network firewall issues (Score:1)
Quit yer cryin you fat babies (Score:1)
Get your ass over to www.transgaming.com, download the source, build and install it, then play one of the best games of the year.
See you in the trenches!
Do what I did... (Score:5, Insightful)
Do what I did (if you are a RtCW gamer). It takes less than 5 minues, and you will feel good about it.
Go to their web site. Go to the "Contact" page, and send them an email thanking them for their contribution. I know if I was a developer, and I got a few emails saying thanks, it would really be a nice thing. So, say thank-you from the Linux community. They didn't have to do this, they chose to.
Re:Do what I did... (Score:1)
Money talks and bullshit walks.
But dropping an email would be nice too.
Pocket Wolf 3D (Score:1)
Now you can play it on the road too - Wolf 3D has been ported to the PocketPC!
http://www.pocketgamer.org/archives/00000574.shtml [pocketgamer.org]
The binaries for ARM devices will be released tomorrow
Typical Slashdot Editors (Score:1)
Wolfenstein Linux Binaries Available
Posted by michael on 06:11 AM November 29th, 2001
from the chaingun-goodness dept.
From my submission queue:
2001-11-28 21:40:39 Linux Binaries for RTCW available now! (articles,games) (rejected)
...you'd think I'd be used to it by now...
mirror (Score:1)
Ben
Nein Nein.. was: Re:Ich Bein (Score:1)
"Ich bin ein Binary" muss es heissen...
stay xund ppl...
Re:Ich Bein (Score:1)
wouldnt it be lightyears better if they actually usued pure-deutch voice samples ? ( kinda like DOD mod for HL ).
NO, i am NOT in an SS fanclub.
:)
Re:yes but (Score:1)
See see!! look at my email address!