The Indie Game Jam 87
Rich Carlson writes "The Indie Game Jam is a yearly game design
and programming event designed to encourage experimentation and innovation in the game industry."
Mausoleum: The final and funniest folly of the rich. -- Ambrose Bierce
Here's an innovation I'd like to see... (Score:2)
just what we need... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:just what we need... (Score:1)
I recommend more 1st person shooters, maybe with LAN team play.
Gaming Nerds Fasion (Score:4, Funny)
black shirt, blue jeans
black shirt, blue jeans
black shirt, blue jeans
black shirt, tan jeans
grey shirt, blue jeans
grey shirt, black shirt, white shirt
(that guy in the back has a red shirt--must be gay)
Re:Gaming Nerds Fasion (Score:2)
Re:Gaming Nerds Fasion (Score:1)
Two words: "Coffee stains."
Jack William Bell
Re:Gaming Nerds Fasion (Score:2, Funny)
You do the math...
Re:Gaming Nerds Fasion (Score:2)
graspee
Re:Gaming Nerds Fasion (Score:2)
White Shirts (Score:1)
not only are white shirts cooler, you can also wash them at a temperature which kills bacteria rather than just giving them a warm bath.
BTW I am wearing an olive shirt and bright blue cotton trousers (since they are thin and it is hot today). My white shirts are all drying :-)
Re:Gaming Nerds Fasion (Score:2)
That's just my own particular neurosis, though.
Re:Gaming Nerds Fasion (Score:2, Funny)
It's actually because I was working on computer vision apps, and needed to wear brightly colored clothing since that makes it easier for cheesy webcams to construct a good image.
Usually... I wear a lot of black.
-J.
Re:Gaming Nerds Fasion (Score:3, Funny)
I thought he was just the obligatory soon-to-be-dead crew member.
Re:Gaming Nerds Fashion (Score:2)
New kinds of games can be fun. (Score:1)
Hey, now there's an idea. It's nice to see a game every once in a while that doesn't fit neatly into a specific genre. Helps keep things "fresh".
Experimentation?? (Score:3, Interesting)
Here's some real innovation and experimentation:
Dani Bunten Berry [happypuppy.com]
Pardon me while I feel nostalgiac...every game that comes out lately (esp. in the arcade) is either two guys beating the stuffing out of each other, or some sort of Exxxtreme Simulation, be it piloting a helicopter, shooting a gun, or pushing a shopping cart full of your worldly possesions down the street while being chased by cops and skinheads.
Okay, that last one doesn't really exist but WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH ALL THE SIMULATIONS??? You wanna be Deer Avenger Mega XL? Why not actually go hunt a deer. There are millions of 'em out there. You want to drive real fast? Go to the local racetrack and ACTUALLY DO IT.
I miss the quality games like Rampart, which was extremely playable as a multiplayer or single player endeavor...must stop ranting...trying to stay on topic:
A lot of the games on that web page are very, very cool ideas, and I'm really glad to see the big vendors (read: Intel) getting behind the local community. I would love to play Dueling Machine, because it sounds totally cool, and many of the others seem utterly hilarious.
God, I miss the good games. I think everyone fell in love with the "rich story line" after Wing Commander II and forgot about playability and the intense PLEASURE that comes from battling it out with a game like Lemmings. I bet the current crop of mainstream game designers has watched a lot more TV and action adventure movies and spent a hell of a lot less time playing lunar lander, drag racer, and Adventure on the mainframe.
100,000 sprites? You had to do something crafty with interrupts to get more than 7 sprites on my old C64. And yet, I have a game of MULE scheduled for right after I hit the submit button...
I light a candle for Infocom
Re:Experimentation?? (Score:1)
Good old Yak!
Download link? (Score:2)
Whoa, cool... anyone have a link to the demo?
Re:Experimentation?? (Score:1)
Sure I could spend 100s-1000s of dollars and actually risk my life, or I could spend 5 bucks to rent a game and experience a modicum of the same thrill from the safety and comfort of my living room.
These things are not comparable, so don't pretend that they are.
Re:Slashdot - Welcome To The New Age Of Adverticle (Score:1, Offtopic)
Offtopic it may be, this is why the Slashdot System is so brilliant. You don't post anything that might criticize your humble and goodwilling intentions. And when someone mentions that your articles are crap and only serve your own needs, then it is naturally off-topic, because it wasn't posted under the thread "Slashdot, News for Nerds, Stuff that VAtters".
Face it. Slashdot is turning into a propaganda tool for VA, which is whole lot of smaller community than "the Nerds" which used to be your community, or atleast I thought so.
Re:Slashdot - Welcome To The New Age Of Adverticle (Score:2)
No kidding.
Its just so sad to watch, sometimes.. The whole Linux movement started off being so kind, and generous, and genuinely altruistic....then turned into a steaming pile of bullshit. And disingenuine bullshit, at that. I fought, and fought, and fought to try to get people to realize what was happening, because back then, I still cared. I walked out in disgust, issued a very public fuck-you to VA and the horse they rode in on, and encouraged others to do the same. Nobody listened. Infact, the opposite happened. I got ridiculed and made a pariah for doing so. I'm seriously beginning to think there is no real Linux community left. The people who were there pre-VA, pre-Andover, they've all moved on, and away from this sort of carpetbagging crap.. Myself included.. It seems the only ones left are the people who cant bare to admit its over.
Makes you wonder what the "next big thing" will be. QNX? BSD? Hurd?...OS X? Sure as hell wont be Linux, unfortunately. As much as we all tried, we're in a situation now where VA has monopolized such a massive amount of mindshare that VA's imminent bankruptcy will drag the Linux movement down the tubes with it. VA is irrevocably linked with the Linux movement. Their demise translates to "See? Linux failed." in the minds of everyone outside the Linux community.
So.. Doesn't matter if you had dreams. Doesn't matter if you gave everything you had and did everything you could to help. You're an obstacle sitting firmly between Company X and the mean green.
Welcome to the Golden age of Adverticles, kids.
Cheers,
Re:Slashdot - Welcome To The New Age Of Adverticle (Score:1)
This is so cool - they use the GPL! (Score:2, Interesting)
The code is released under GPL, and is available on sourceforge for everyone to play with. I've always wanted to develop games, so looking at *actual* game code is really exciting. I know I can do that elsewhere too, but these are (supposed to be, anyway) top-of-the-line game developers doing their stuff. I'll be downloading the source for sure :-)
Re:This is so cool - they use the GPL! (Score:1)
Neat yes, but innovation on demand? (Score:3, Interesting)
sure that code will be created through this that will be very interesting to see
and see run, isn't innovation something rare enough to not be expected? What's so wrong nowadays with being proud to have simply made something of quality, even if it's not some earth shattering revelation.
Sometimes it just seems to me Microsoft's proclamations of their so called
'innovations' have lowered the bar considerably. I'm about to go make a bowl of
ramen noodles, and I'll be throwing in some pieces of broccoli. By todays
standards would that be considered an innovation in the world of everyday
nutrition?
Re:Neat yes, but innovation on demand? (Score:1)
You'd better not. I've patented that.
Re:Neat yes, but innovation on demand? (Score:2, Interesting)
The ramen noodles are the *framework*. Nutrition is a *functional requirement*. Dumping leftover veggies into your kibble *adds value* and *lowers your TCO*.
I could keep going except I agree with you too much. Innovation is dead, or at least becoming increasingly more stultified as we approach the "McCultural singularity"
Democracy is a registered trademark of the America Corporation.
Re:Neat yes, but innovation on demand? (Score:2, Interesting)
So, they provide a new gimmick (100,000 sprites), and ask the developers to try to discover new games for the gimmick. The gimmick exists to help kick the developers out of any rut they may be in -- to be the impetus for them to exploit their creativity.
Quality is something we all want. And there are plenty of groups producing games of quality.
But innovation, while perhaps hard to force, also isn't something that just falls from the sky. You have to keep at it and keep at it, and hopefully finally out of the 100's and 1000's of tries, something is actually new and interesting.
Or maybe we should be working toward a top quality abacus, nevermind all those new-fangled tran-sis-tors. Translation: if they try hard enough, they may eventually find something that changes everything, that becomes the foundation for everything else. A lofty goal, for certain; but, they've got to start somewhere, and they may develop lots of other cool stuff along the way.
Re:Neat yes, but innovation on demand? (Score:2)
Yes, true. The trouble is that most game developers set out from day one to write a game "like popular game X." So they follow all the cliches that are laid out before them, and they write a game effectively by the numbers. And that's exactly what people hate in music: bands that are obviously trying to sound like some other band. But when it comes to games, people just accept this--even game critics--and revel in the cliches.
interesting (Score:2, Interesting)
The sreen shots don't give that much away. Just 100000s of people everywhere to kill. How complete was the base sourcecode they were working from?
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I guess everyones attention is on AOTC, so perhaps it would be wise to have a
Re:interesting (Score:1)
Personnally i would really like for there to be no need for this kind of thing.
we can only hope.
Hmm, this sounds familiar... (Score:2)
Hmm, sounds familiar. Is it similar to the way patents & trademarks are designed to encourage innovation?
great engine, successful event (Score:1)
By the looks of it, the first iteration of this event was a success. It will be great when we can download the games and see for ourselves.
later,
Jess
That's how they call it, nowadays? (Score:1)
The 0th annual? (Score:1)
New games huh? (Score:2)
New a bit too late? (Score:2)
Re:New a bit too late? (Score:3, Insightful)
Two words: Slashdot Editors
Bungie, are you listening? (Score:2)
contradiction in terms? (Score:1)
What is still on my wishlist... (Score:1, Interesting)
Wouldn't it be nice to have a game where you could design your characted in a let's say modern 3D package, give it physical properties and let it 'live' together with others in a virtual environment. It sounds maybe dull, but look how popular Sims are - and not - Sims is also one of those 'limited' kind of games. Pity.
/Diolas
Black & White? (Score:1)
Of course, that's not exactly the game's main idea.
Angry God Bowling. (Score:2)
What I think these folks should do is take all 12 games that were made, and combine them into one big mega-one - you can't get to the next map until you win the existing one.
Package 'em up, slap 'em in a box called "Angry God Bowling" and sell.
More indy's and insaniquarium (Score:2)
(it starts off slow, is a simple game, and carpal tunnel inducing, but stick with it, it gets better)
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