

What (And Where) Are The Classic Free Games? 432
An anonymous reader asks: "I'm flying from the US to Europe in a few weeks and am taking my iBook along for the ride. With a seven hour flight looming, I'm wanting to take some games along to play. But I don't want to download a bunch of freeware that may or may not be junk; I just want the classics. What are the classic free games? I've already downloaded Nethack and am looking into Freeciv. What else is there? I need something that's multiplatform (or at least has a Mac port), something that's stable and has stood the test of time, and something that is more complex and engrossing than a Tetris clone. Thanks!"
angband, cthangband, etc (Score:4, Informative)
many variants to play with, all take a good long while to complete. Think of 'em as nethack extended.
Personal favortites are pernband & cthangband, psiband isn't bad either.
oh, c'mon... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:oh, c'mon... (Score:2)
Re:oh, c'mon... (Score:5, Insightful)
For all of your ROM needs... (Score:2, Informative)
There are over 3000 ROMs.
Oh, and only download the ROMs that you are legally allowed to play.
More ngrossing than a Tetris clone? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:More ngrossing than a Tetris clone? (Score:2)
Don't waste your time (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Don't waste your time (Score:2)
Anyway, I could play nethack for 7 hours straight, so I'm already set
Re:Don't waste your time (Score:2)
assuming you're flying e-w or w-e, 7-8 hours will take you through a few time zones. so: on getting on the plane, set your watch for the target time zone and try to synch your body clock asap - either take caffeine if you're supposed to stay awake, or something like melatonin if you are supposed to be asleep. try and be either awake or asleep according to the clock of your destination time zone.
if you play games, watch movies, eat the shitty food, blag all the free drinks (which are cheap shit), you will generally feel like crap after doing any combo of us-eur-jap. seriously! this is a pain if you have a connection or will be spending any time on ground transportation at the other end ...
anyway if you are in coach there's hardly room to use a lappy anyway. hopefully you're in business!
What? (Score:2, Informative)
It's still playable... =)
Still can't get enough of it sometimes
then there's always xbill when tetris has gotten the best out of you.
so there. thats what I'd bring.
I dunno if it's ported to the Mac, but.. (Score:2, Funny)
(Although you'd better not let a stewardess see you madly running around with a gun, on a computer, whilst on a plane.. it might make you look conspicuous..
Re:I dunno if it's ported to the Mac, but.. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:I dunno if it's ported to the Mac, but.. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I dunno if it's ported to the Mac, but.. (Score:2)
Re:I dunno if it's ported to the Mac, but.. (Score:5, Funny)
Nobody ever complained.
old mac shareware games rule (Score:3, Informative)
Off the top of my head, some great games were Lode Runner, Beam Wars, Hazardous, Taskmaker, Tetris, and a few more I can't remember the names of. Check for one of those shareware CD-ROMS they used to sell and the ones listed in bold are probably going to be pretty good.
Quake? (Score:2)
Alternatively, mame and some free (but illegal) roms could be pretty fun as well
MAME? (Score:5, Interesting)
The classics are everywhere.
Try here (Score:4, Informative)
Mac Gamer
one word (Score:3, Insightful)
Old games search engine (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.freeoldies.com
(And yes, I know, it does sound like a porn site)
Re:Old games search engine (Score:2)
http://386page.gooddays.org/ [gooddays.org]
And for those of us who are mac-less, don't forget those old boot floppies:
http://www.mirrors.org/archived_software/www.boot
~Will
Re:Old games search engine (Score:2)
What an awesome find! I have something to contribute to this site (DESQView 2.60), but there's no contact info at all. If the maintainer of this site is reading (and you are interested), post here and I'll send it to you.
Re:Old games search engine (Score:4, Funny)
Simple (Score:2)
In two words : NES ROMS
In 3 words : Custom NES ROMS
Metroid x, super butt bros, strange mario brothers. There are MANY TCs/updates/ refits of loads of old games begging to be played.
EV! (Score:5, Informative)
EV, Warnings and More Warnings (Score:2, Insightful)
The other nice thing about the EV series is the gobs and gobs of mods ranging from blatant cheats to full game conversions. (The Babylon 5 mod for EV:O is still my favorite with Star Wars a close second.)
So yes, EV is a true fun timewaster, and since it doesn't depend on a mouse you won't get finger-cramp from the pad on the iBook.
One warning is that it's a cross between a trading game and a top-down space combat shooter, but with a great number of branching plots and sidequests. If you don't like elements of either of these, try something else.
Another warning is that EV:Nova uses 3-d effects which can kick the fan into high mode and eat up battery.
As for my opinion, EV:Override is my favorite of the three Escape Velocities to date.
Re:EV! (Score:2)
Its millipede
but really fast, and really cool
great for a quick bash
Emulation! (Score:2, Interesting)
Great Games (Score:5, Informative)
The Incredible Machine (TIM)
Bridge Builder 1 and 2 (from Pontifex)
Other great games are:
Blockout
Sokoban
UGH!
At least, these are the only games which I am still not bored.
Some resources (Score:3, Informative)
Some old DOS games [dosgamesarchive.com].
More recent games at Kev's Classing Gaming [cjb.net].
nethack (Score:5, Insightful)
If you can't get through an eight hour flight with that, you've got bigger problems than finding free games...
Re:nethack (Score:2)
And I am not trying to trash nethack. I like the actual game behind the bad interface.
Re:nethack (Score:2, Informative)
It actually forces one to use the arcane thing called a keybord to play the game.
Nethack normally does not contain a point-and-drool user interface - unless one compile in such support. (Its available)
Most players however seam to prefer the old interface since it's makes it faster to play the game.
I've spent far to many hours playing nethack.
Re:nethack (Score:2)
Yes, it will take him 8h to learn how to use the game, and that's just fine. It takes a lot longer to learn how to play chess.
Fits the bill (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Fits the bill (Score:2)
Maelstom (Score:3, Informative)
Infocom games (Score:5, Insightful)
Nearly every platform has an interpreter for the old Infocom text games. Zork I, II, and III are available for free legally from ActiVision [csd.uwo.ca],
and once you have a z-machine interpreter for your Mac, you can use any of the other Infocom games you can find. There are also many (legal) free z-machine games available on the net, and I think that Activision recently sold a CD-ROM with most of the old Infocom collection, including Hitchhiker's Guide, Enchanter, and the others.
Any one of these will keep you busy for the whole flight and taxi ride to your hotel, and you'll probably stay up and keep playing once you get there instead of sleeping off the jet lag. Just remember to bring a pad of paper, pencil, and eraser for drawing maps and working out mazes.
Zork for Mac OS X download (Score:2)
Enjoy.
Re:Infocom games (Score:2)
It might not be a classic, but... (Score:5, Informative)
SameGnome for Win32?? (Score:2)
Re:It might not be a classic, but... (Score:2)
No, I think Frozen-Bubble is just a portable remake of a classic, and given that all the art is different, there's nothing plagiristic about it.
Speaking of this... (Score:2)
Of course, Mame [mame.dk] is the best answer to this question, as many have pointed out.
On that topic, does anyone know what happened to mame.dk? All the roms get removed with just a mysterious message that a copyright holder complained. One copyright holder and they ditch everything?
Fortunately, I had written a program to download all roms from the site (heh) not long before it closed, but are there any other places that are as complete as mame.dk used to be?
Re:Speaking of this... (Score:2)
And as for you, Mr "I had wrote a program to download all roms from the site (heh) not long before it closed" people like you are one of the reasons it stopped serving ROMs.
The first reason being that, being contacted by a copyright holder to remove one ROM, they elected instead to remove them all (well, almost, Robby Roto (I think) and two other 'legal' ROMs are still available) thinking that since they were contacted by one, likely they'd be contacted by more.
So, to avoid legal hassle, they all went.
The second reason, I suspect, is because of the massive bandwidth requirements to serve all those ROMs. They operated almost soley on donations. I contributed what I could, when I could. Can you say the same?
Innocent_Lamb, are you reading this? Can you offer more insight?
Re:Speaking of this... (Score:3, Interesting)
they elected instead to remove them all (well, almost, Robby Roto (I think) and two other 'legal' ROMs are still available) thinking that since they were contacted by one, likely they'd be contacted by more.
Sorry, but that's just stupid. Most of the manufacturers knowingly did NOT take legal action. They could have just taken down the couple that were in question, and moved on. If they got a flood of legal activity, they could have delt with it then.
The second reason, I suspect, is because of the massive bandwidth requirements to serve all those ROMs. They operated almost soley on donations. I contributed what I could, when I could.
Now that's a reason I could have respected. If they didn't have the money to support it, then just say so, but don't give us a cock-and-bull story about "one mfg complained, therefore we have to take the WHOLE DAMN THING DOWN" which just doesn't ring true.
Can you say the same?
As a matter of fact I did, so take your take your nose in the air elsewhere.
Re:Speaking of this... (Score:2)
Hardly a nose in the air. Most people didn't give money, as they figured they'd get the money from somewhere else. But since you did contribute, then more kudos to you.
And as for taking everything down for a single ROM? Hey, it's their site, it's their choice.
Re:Speaking of this... (Score:2)
Really?
http://www.tombstones.org.uk/burners.php?us [tombstones.org.uk]
Second one down, that's me. Same as the nick here. ROMs free for all (at least in the US)
Unless you were talking to the other guy. I don't see how I'm being self rightous.
Re:Speaking of this... (Score:2)
I think he's calling me the "fuckwit". :)
And I suppose I shouldn't sound so bitter about them pulling it down when obviously it's their right, but I just hate dishonesty. Obviously I don't have proof that there was some other reason, but the story of why they killed them all off is just so thin.
Games + kudos to Freeciv (Score:2, Informative)
If you like Nethack you should try Angband, or perhaps just (u)moria. Or from another Cygnus old-timer (umoria was from Jim Wilson), try xconq (Stan Shebs). Although umoria is ancient it has the advantage that it doesn't take incredibly long to play, which unfortunately vanilla angband does.
You can finish a game of nethack in a few hours or a few days (depending on your determination and experience level) but vanilla angband can take, gee, hundreds of hours (during any of which you can suffer an insta-death from hitting a key one too many times). It's still enjoyable but in a more serious and perverse way than nethack.
If you just need a good game to take care of a couple hours of the twitchies on an airplane, I recommend kshisen, which is a thoroughly addictive timed mah-jong-like game.
-joseph
Hah! How interesting... (Score:3, Interesting)
Anyway, I'm only 21, so I never did much with dos, so despite what I think I know about "computers" and windows or other microsoft products, etc, I know exactly crap about EMS and XMS and EMM386 and HIMEM and SMARTDRV. We've run into problems with wing commander running at the speed of light because it counts clock cycles, not seconds, and with some games not liking the fact that the machine has 160 megs of ram. One of the games suggested we make $ExtraRam sized cache with smartdrv so the game thought we had less memory, except instead of $ExtraRam being 5,341 KB, it was 157,325,210 KB...
But anyway, here's my list of games I have installed:
Doom 2
Mechwarrior 2
Wing Commander
Wing Commander II
Wing Commander III
Privateer
Jazz Jackrabbit
Rise of the Triad
Duke Nukem I
Duke Nukem II
Duke Nukem 3D
Warcraft I
Command and Conquer
Command and Conquer: Red Alert
I don't know how many of these have mac ports - Doom2 did, I use to own it...
I also didn't know that windows 3.1 wasn't an operating system. That bugged me - when you install windows, it doesn't install any OS files, just the interface to dos... Despite saying "Windows Operating System" on the floppies.
~Will
Re:Hah! How interesting... (Score:2, Informative)
You went to all that trouble and didn't install Master of Magic [the-underdogs.org]?
Enjoy Freenet [freenetproject.org] & Frost [sourceforge.net] while you can.
i know where they are (Score:2, Informative)
http://mac.the-underdogs.org/ [the-underdogs.org] has everything you want. I recommend Armor Alley in particular.
eDonkey (Score:2)
Step 2) Search for "mame" or maybe give this [sharereactor.com] a go.
--
Some suggestions (Score:2, Informative)
As for free/shareware, there are some nice arcade games:
Glypha III homepage.mac.com/quirinus [mac.com]
Cyclone (?)
Asteroid Storm homepage.mac.com/zarkonnen [mac.com]
Glider is fun too, as are MacChess and SigmaChess (if you're into chess, obviously).
have fun!
Some advice... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Some advice... (Score:2)
Most "soap on a rope" laptop transformers can handle 220 V, but it's worth checking.
Re:Some advice... (Score:2)
I know the submitter is going to Europe from the US, which makes it astoundingly unlikely that he's flying on Qantas, but I just wanted to chime in here and say from experience that Qantas does not, as far as I know, have DC power in any of their planes. I flew to Sydney recently, which is 14 hours from LAX. No power anywhere, not even up in First, according to the sexy stews-- er, I mean flight attendants. And that was on a relatively new 747-400!
Fortunately I knew in advance and I was able to expense five new batteries for my iBook. I watched five or six DVDs on the way down there.
(Oh, one more thing. If you pack a bunch of batteries, get to the airport extra early. Those things show up as solid white rectangles on x-ray monitors. The security people don't like that, especially when you're carrying half a dozen of 'em.)
Anyone remember Lunatic Fringe, the AD Module? (Score:2)
Back in '92 I remember spending my Jr High lunches in the science room playing the Lunatic Fringe screensaver that came with More After Dark on the school's LC II's.
Those were the days...
Did that ever get released anywhere else, or was strictly a module only?
Re:Anyone remember Lunatic Fringe, the AD Module? (Score:2)
I don't have any information about it for you; I just wanted to let you know that you're not alone.
What about a Game Boy? (Score:5, Informative)
1.) Size: It's not comfy to use a laptop actively on an airplane. Either you have to rest it on your lap (horrible ergonomics), or the guy in front of you will lay his seat back and make you panic for a mo.
2.) Battery life: I realize Macs are efficient and all, but it IS an issue. With a GBA, just bring an extra set of batteries. You shouldn't need more than 4 AA's total on your trip. (Psst tip: Don't bring more than 4 AA's on an airplane trip. I did that on a trip recently and one of the security personell mentioned that looked supsicious and recommended I carry no more than 4.
3.) Startup/shutdown time: May not seem like much, but there's a big difference between 60 seconds of bootup or shutdown, and 'click' your GBA is off.
4.) Control: Control is horrible on a laptop for most games. If the ergonomics don't get you, the lack of space for a mouse to move will.
5.) Carry on: I find it to be a nuisance to unpack and put away a laptop on a plane. I can imagine most people who've tried this have the same sentiment. Not like a GBA where you just slip it in your pocket.
I know my suggestion doesn't meet all your requirements. I thought I'd mention it though because I had a similar problem myself a couple of months ago. Despite the fact that I have a teeny weeny laptop, I came to the conclusion that a GBA with a couple of games and a couple of Douglas Adams books were far more suitable and comfortable than a laptop. My laptop didn't turn into an interesting game machine until I got to the hotel. The nice thing about a GBA is that it plays nearly all GB games (dirt cheap), it's efficient with batteries, and it's form factor is quite suitable for a plane.
Re:AA batteries. (Score:2)
They didn't count all the batteries in my electronics, I had an 8-pak of double AA's and another 8-pak of AAA's. (with 4 of the AAA's gone)
He pulled me aside and suggested I carry no more than 4, presumably he meant spares.
He didnt:
a.) Demand it
b.) Perform an unwarranted search
c.) Treat me negatively in any way. He just said don't carry more than four.
Act stinky about it if ya want, but seriously, what's the hub-bub? If one can buy AA batteries in any country, why carry an 8-pack around like I was? Pretty stupid of me. They were on sale. Heh.
Interactive fiction of course! (Score:2, Informative)
Start grabbing the winners from previous years... they're almost always fantastic. There are links to interpreters for almost every platform... I know for a fact that my personal favorite (Frotz) isn't available for Mac, but ZIP is.
Enjoy!
-jf
Armagetron (Score:2, Informative)
Egoboo (Score:2)
Some great AbandonWare sites... (Score:3, Informative)
DOPEWARS! (Score:5, Informative)
Text adventures (Score:2)
Platform independant since 1981...
Mac Playmate?! (Score:2, Insightful)
It may not be the best game, but its a classic. Anyone know where that could be found today? I've looked, but I can never find it.
Don't forget (Score:2)
Try some interactive fiction... (Score:2)
Go to the Interactive Fiction Archive [ifarchive.org] and look around. My personal favorites include Spider and Web [wurb.com] (a really excellent game -- starts out beginner-friendly but with a healthy but not impossible challenging bit near the end), Photopia [wurb.com] (more of a story than a game), Varicella [wurb.com] (beautifully written, and hard to get right within the allowed time -- but short, so replaying is possible, and even intended), and The Meteor, The Stone And A Long Glass of Sherbet [wurb.com].
Most of these are written for Infocom's Z-Machine (remember them?) so they'll run on any platform which has a Z-Code interpreter available (which is darned near anything, down to almost every major palmtop). For that matter, if you're willing to deviate from the "free" thing, many of Infocom's originals (remember the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy computer game?) are also still available.
Have fun!
Angband! (Score:2, Informative)
netrek (Score:2)
Elite! (Score:3, Informative)
There's a portable version at www.newkind.co.uk [newkind.co.uk] if your platform can run Allegro (don't worry about Allegro barfing during the build on the x86 assembler bits - they are't actually required for things like X. I've got Allegro working happily on my Sun.) Elite: The New Kind runs happily on Solaris, Linux, Windoze and anything that's supported by Allegro.
HappyWeed! (Score:2, Funny)
Mac (classic) OS only... but it rules!
Ambrosia, Delta Tao, Flaming Pear (Score:2, Informative)
Know why you cannot find many free classic games? (Score:2, Insightful)
Abandonware sites have some of the classic games for download, but get shut down real quick as soon as they get popular.
You might be able to find some from Gnutella clients; however, that is being cleaned out as well. Better hurry.
empire, xconq, ... (Score:2)
Of particular note is "empire", a multiplayer Civilization-type game originally from the 1970's (!), complete with nuclear war at the end.
The test of time... (Score:2)
How 'bout chess? Or go? That might keep you occupied for a plane ride. And maybe for the rest of your life.
Do you have internet access? (Score:2)
If you're using a airline that provides cheap internet access you can use the client mentioned in the story above. The NES roms are generally around
IDKFA (Score:2)
Text adventure games! (Score:2)
Betrayal at Krondor (Score:2, Interesting)
Sopwith (Score:2)
It's actually a pretty addictive game. My personal best is level four, 8225 points.
http://fraggle.despayre.org:81/stuffage/sopwith
A Classic Board Game (Score:2)
You can also go to emulation.net [emulation.net] and pick up some emulation software of your choice. You'll have to be willing to break copyright law to get the ROMs, though.
BlackGriffen
PalmOS (Score:2)
A PDA fits well on the tiny tray table, extra AAA cells are easy to bring, and battery life is excellent.
A Visor Deluxe is about $100 these days.
If you bring an iBook, you might want to look into a cable that will let you power it from the airplane somehow.
steveha
Snack Attack, anyone? (Score:2)
ANYway, is there a port of this one? I thought of writing a GPL port of it, but I can't program to save my life...
something Snack Attack... (Score:2)
One of the screen shots looks a *lot* like the first level from the Apple II version of it.
Re:Where the free games went. (Score:2)
Most free games were, are and will be written by invididuals or groups of individuals.
Re:an entire year of college was spent playing (Score:2, Informative)
Re:an entire year of college was spent playing (Score:2, Informative)
Re:hm. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:The Underdogs (Score:2)
If only The Underdogs would at least have the grace to link to games that were also published on other (better) platforms.. it's extremely silly to link to the PC's (CGA!) version of Marble Madness or Arctic Fox when extremely good versions came out for the Amiga, which are perfectly playable on Amiga emulators for the PC these days.
This goes for a great deal of the first half of their historical archives.. any cross platform game that came out before 1988 or so would inevitably have been far better played on the Amiga, Atari ST, Atari 800, Commodore 64, etc.
Re:Why Free? (Score:2)
It's because he OWNS a Mac laptop and is flying to Europe that he hasn't got enough left to afford payware games
Re:Why Free? (Score:2)
Maybe he doesn't play that many computer games, or maybe he has a PC at home and that's his gaming machine.
Either way, if he doesn't have any games for the Mac, and he wants to play some games on the Mac for some hours but he doesn't want to pay 50 bucks for a 2-week entertainment value that's he's never going to touch again, why not get some free games and delete them later?.
Re:Why Free? (Score:2)
I can imagine plenty of reasons:
Re:iBook? (Score:2)
Come here to download the golden oldies ! (Score:5, Informative)
Here's where you go to download those golden oldies, including classic games
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Softwar