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CaptTrips writes "C|Net has an interesting article on the growing wave of LAN parties. Michael Duarte best puts it when he says "being able to play as a team, talk with the people next to you -- it's just a whole different aspect than playing online. For me, it's just more fun to put a face with the name of the person you're playing with." I agree!" This is a good excuse for us to link to QuakeCon. GameSpy has extensive coverage of the con - they've got some interesting screenshots and previews up.
No real news, huh? (Score:1)
Meetup.com (Score:2)
Re:No real news, huh? (Score:1)
LAN Parties (Score:1, Troll)
Re:LAN Parties (Score:1, Funny)
Re:LAN Parties (Score:1)
and I thought I was bored on Friday night.... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:and I thought I was bored on Friday night.... (Score:3, Funny)
Umm, you are MAKING FUN of people who are posting about LAN parties on a Friday night while you are SITTING AT HOME reading about them.
At least I am wasted and laughing!
Doom (Score:1, Funny)
Laptops are lovely draggin for Lan Fraggin
*DrugCheese rants*
Re:Doom (Score:2)
Or enough glue.
LAN parties rock (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:LAN parties rock (Score:1)
Re:LAN parties rock (Score:2)
Still, for trying out hardcore wierd shit games with your friends you can't beat a lan party. I remember playing Descent II CTF, Rocket Jockey, Abuse, Hexen, Battlezone (tons and tons of that)and a host of other oddball games at old LAN parties.
Re:LAN parties rock (Score:2)
I think it's fun to choose a variety of games so that in any given game, there are some experts and some non-experts. This changes from game to game to everyone has a chance to dominate or come in last place.
Back when I had time to play games (damn, has it been that long?) I always won a Jedi Knight and lost badly at Freespace. It kind of makes me sad I never went into university residence and instead lived at home (which happened to be very close to the university) because my buddies there played counterstrike or AvP all day with max 50 ping against the whole resnet, while I am still stuck on lame dialup because there's nothing else better when I am.
Re:LAN parties rock (Score:1)
I think the best moment I remember was my mate sat next to me killed this guy 5 times in a row (Unreal Tourney), the guy was so annoyed he got up and to walk round and look at the back of everyones computer (which had our player names stuck on) to find him! Mind, it was only a LAN with 15 people - in a condemned community centre!! at least the roof didn't cave in...
...it's moments likes these you can't get on the net, at least not yet.
(i)max games (Score:3, Interesting)
nothing like halo on the imax dome. except, maybe, grand theft auto, which some reason was verboten.
come to think of it, i'm glad some people from the south bay did forget to go -- it would have been awfully crowded.
poor grammar in c|net article (Score:2)
Hi David,
I noticed many instances of the use of "revolve around" in your story "Gamers fight for right to LAN
party" at http://news.com.com/2100-1040-950054.html. This is a redundant grammar error (along the lines of "Easter Sunday") and should be corrected to "revolve on." Thank you.
LAN party (Score:1)
see, who needs laptops (Score:1)
Re:see, who needs laptops (Score:2)
How do you spell power relief in 3 letters? (Score:2)
Besides, who wants to lug around a CRT anyway? LCD flat-panels rule.
Re:How do you spell power relief in 3 letters? (Score:2)
Also! (Score:1)
I would LAN more... (Score:3, Interesting)
I've often thought a cool business plan would be to set up a "LAN Party" hall, with monitors and speakers, all the kiddies have to bring are their CPUs, keyboards and meece. $3 per person per hour, if you kept the room booked you could do pretty well.
Anyone know if this has been done, anywhere? Or does the whole idea suck for reasons not yet known to me?
Re:I would LAN more... (Score:3, Offtopic)
Re:I would LAN more... (Score:2)
Quake (I) is still the best multi-FPS, and the source code is out there to improve on it... heck, mods would be okay.
A Pentium I with a 3DFX Voodoo is really all you need.
Maybe a big screen for the leaders... hidden from the players of course.
I still love playing CTF, and Team Fortress.
Re:I would LAN more... (Score:2)
Re:I would LAN more... (Score:2)
It really can't get old if there are new maps and players... no campers... etc... just like every other game.
Re:I would LAN more... (Score:2)
Re:I would LAN more... (Score:2)
What makes me not play any FPS games later than UT is that they are simply too complicated and the gameplay is still yet the same.
When I say complicated I mean the number of keys bound to items, movements, actions and weapons.
Simply, I would vote "Doom" but there was no jump. Once that was added to Quake along with GL support and TCP/IP play there isn't much to add except more buttons to mash and even more gfx 'coolness'.
Now, I'm not saying the rest suck. I'm just saying they are all basically Quake. Better gfx doesn't make a game "better" (unless you are stuck in that console world of "mine looks better than yours")
I really hope that Doom III will add something really new. A lot of games have added a few things, sword fighting in Jedi Outcast and etc, but nothing radically different.
Re:I would LAN more... (Score:1)
It's the best way to network but you got to know/be an admin to tear apart a network like that
Re:I would LAN more... (Score:1, Informative)
The most expensive of these rooms are $6 AU per hour, my friends and i regularily visit korean gaming rooms which are much cheaper about $1.50 an hour. Most popular games are definately starcraft and counterstrike but rainbow 6 series and age of empires 2 are also almost universal
Sadly most of the starcraft games ive participated in focus more on money maps and less on actual strategy
Cant see why these wouldnt be available in almost any city around the globe, your local chinatown would definately be a good place to check
Re:I would LAN more... (Score:2)
Dude, there are *plenty* of cyber-cafe-style places that cater more to the gaming crowd then the email/web crowd, and they don't require the players to drag CPUs/keyboards/mice, or even software licenses.
Re:I would LAN more... (Score:2)
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Re:I would LAN more... (Score:1)
Re:I would LAN more... (Score:1)
Anyone know if this has been done, anywhere? Or does the whole idea suck for reasons not yet known to me?
There is a place in New Zealand, lanplace [lanplace.co.nz], that does this. Sort of. It's extra for a monitor - they offer from 17" ViewSonics up to 21" Sony ones.
Oh, and no speakers, not that I think providing speakers is such a great idea when you have a whole lot of people with speakers in the same room...
On closer inspection it appears they charge a flat fee for most events (either weeknight or weekend ones over 24 hours) and on weeknights monitor rental is thrown in with seat rental seeing as apparently they believe most people wouldn't want to lug a monitor along to such a short (~8 hour) event.
yes!!! (Score:5, Funny)
Texas LAN Parties (Score:2)
Check TexasLAN [texaslan.com] is a group dedicated to bringing LAN Parties to cities across Texas.
For those up in the Panhandle, check out SystemAddicts LAN [systemaddicts.net] A member of the TexasLAN Family.
LAN parties aren't exactly new but are definitly becoming more "main stream" than they have been in previous years.
Posted from QuakeCon [quakecon.org], the Ultimate Texas LAN Party.
Lan Party Fun (Score:5, Funny)
No....
It's trying your damndest to get that Windows 98 computer to see your frined's 2000 computer and finding that network cable that you thought you left under your bed for emergencies when the guy with XP is complaining that he needs your DSL connection to get drivers for his new video card that is sitting on your drying X-Wing Model while spilling the bean dip in your shag carpet from the 70s. Suddeny, skippy (your dog) pukes up what was the burgers you got 15 minutes earlier for dinner, on your new dual athalon server.
AAAAGGHHH!
Lan parties are fun...
Finally Someone Understands... (Score:2)
Or if you suck: "You frikken Ass-Munch!"
I can relate to the probs you had. My old laptop used to drop from games during play and thus freeze my player or caused it to self-frag...
Very interesting fun.
I am actually heading out to one tonight...hopefully all the games are compatible with everyone's favourite OS, Windows XP...*snicker*
Re:Lan Party Fun (Score:2)
Yes, this aspect of LAN parties sucks. But of course any discussion about LAN parties on machines running Linux would be pretty boring, given as there are precious few games running on Linux and those that do are outdated for the most part.
Re:Lan Party Fun (Score:2)
Winex is a GREAT project -- it's not perfect yet, but they've really done a good job. And you just can't beat 15 bucks to go windows free!
I haven't booted into windows in so long I'm probably going to delete my windows partition -- I've just got to make sure UT 2003 is supported under Winex... :)
Re:Lan Party Fun (Score:2)
Re:Lan Party Fun (Score:2)
Re:Lan Party Fun (Score:3, Interesting)
But somebody who has never dealt with 10Base-2 (ethernet over coax) is allowed to complain about setting up LAN parties.
I've still got a stack of about 6 ISA NE2000's along with the cable, T's and terminators. You can borrow it just to experience the pleasure.
Bryan
Re:Lan Party Fun (Score:1)
Re:Lan Party Fun (Score:1)
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE this con. Though most of the time is spent playing games, it's my "cave" time of the year, and I get LOTS and LOTS of me time. A *VERY* good portion of it is, as you mentioned, spent getting file sharing to work. Windows 98 has always sucked at networking, everyone knows that. Some people can't afford XP, and wine doesn't do proper justice in some cases. XP looses compatibility with some games (though not new ones) that we play, so some of us simply have to run 98. It seems to me that MS$ has somehow coded XP to *NOT* play nicely with 98. Is this another "forced upgrade"-ism?
Most of the time, we boot into Linux to run samba to share. Seems that as long as samba is the file server, it doesn't care what the client is, the share is blazing fast.
Anyway, my lansearch results are just about done, hrm "*.mp*g;*.avi" returned 60000 results, should have bought that other 100GB drive!!
Ogre
Re:Lan Party Fun (Score:2)
Re:Lan Party Fun (Score:2)
Good times.
Back in my day... (Score:1)
the joy of consoles (Score:2)
I admit first person shooters aren't quite as good as on a LAN party, with a single processor struggling to make 4 viewpoints, and you able to sneak glances at what you're opponents are up to. And people use to mouse+keyboard balk a bit (having never played a PC FPS since my DOOM days but a bit of quake, I'm still an all-keyboard wuss)
Still, the convenience factor is important, and the social aspect is great.
It's all about trust... (Score:2, Funny)
Rochester lan parties (Score:1)
Re:Rochester lan parties (Score:2)
If you're in Fort Collins, CO, (Score:2)
Re:If you're in Fort Collins, CO, (Score:1)
My party: (Score:1)
Anybody know a spot where I can post a mpeg of the newscast coverage of the party? Kind of cool... but its 2.63 meg...
OTTAWA QUAKEFEST? (Score:1)
Iffy title (Score:1, Flamebait)
Necrowombicon (Score:2)
I won't be, because it's 3000 freaking miles away, but it looks like it could contain fun (in liberal dosages).
I want one of those Shuttle mini pcs for this (Score:1)
Re:I want one of those Shuttle mini pcs for this (Score:1)
Just be carefull if you try to mod out the power supply by dropping the fan speed to make it run silent. He had to get a new Power Supply last week cus he screwed it up. Of course he has the Intel / PCI one, and put a GeForce2 64 MB in there with a Tualton Pentium III @ 1200 mhz
Isn't that what the internet was invented for? (Score:1)
Tyler, Tx lan party anyone? (Score:1)
Sports (Score:5, Insightful)
> being able to play as a team, talk with the people next to you -- it's just a whole
> different aspect than playing online. For me, it's just more fun to put a face with the
> name of the person you're playing with.
And before the advent of the internet, we had sports.
Obligatory Star Trek Ref. (Score:1)
Con...CON...COOOOOON!!!!
CNet... (Score:2, Funny)
Not always that great in person (Score:5, Interesting)
Just make sure they are smaller than you.
Re:Not always that great in person (Score:2)
this is the geek crowd, no one resorts to violence... we just listen to what our mothers said: "The best revenge is living well." So the guy next to you is probably just gonna wait 20 years until he's making more money than you are.
Re:Not always that great in person (Score:2)
m0nkyman, who sucks eggs at quake but enjoys it nonetheless...
Computer Baangs (Score:1)
Wait a minute... (Score:1)
Geeks don't socialize face to face!!!
nothing more satisfying... (Score:1)
-bless-
School LAN party (Score:2, Funny)
I consider myself very lucky: my CS teacher in high school has lan parties, where we use the school's machines and network. Sure, the machines may be outdated, but they can run Tribes 1 very well.
The administration has been slightly annoyed at us, but didn't ban it, instead made it so that if a student wanted to play, they had to get a sheet signed by teachers each week that says we were getting good grades. This was the same thing that sports had to do. In effect, playing Tribes in the school CS lab after school/during lunch was officially considered a sport.
I can imagine an interview at college:
Have you any sports experience?
1 c4n n41l j00 fr0m a h100dred y4rD5 w1th m4 sn1p3r r1f73!!!
Re:School LAN party (Score:1)
We made a sport of playing Q3 during class.
New? (Score:1)
From the Con (Score:1)
For those of you unimpressed, they set this whole LAN up in... oh... day and a half I think of actual set up. Preparation is alot longer. They use several miles of Cat5, and ALL the quake games (and the licensed ones like Jedi Knight, Half Life, etc) are hosted on servers, as well as a few file servers for patches, updates, IRC, misc files, and such. Plus there's internet acess for everyone, and everyone's comp sees the other ones.
Theres so much on sale, to do for free, and then just look at I'm going to have to budget sleep so I don't miss the developer round tables, technology workshops, blow out party on Sat, and the 100 other things I got to do.
Plus, the Convention itself is ABSOLUTELY FREE!
On a Continuing Note.... (Score:3, Informative)
What about a LAN party center? (Score:1)
Now comes my question.... what would all of you think about opening a LAN party center for the public to use? I'm talking about providing VERY comfortable chairs, good gaming PCs, concessions, and a place where people could come together (at all hours of the day or night) to play PC games together
The problem is that it will take about $60,000 to start this up, so there is a risk involved. We're both Unix systems administrators for major universities as well as full partners in an Internet company that has been around for 3 years now, so we have the technical know how and business background, but we're lacking in the funding. If anyone knows of an investor that would like to fund this opportunity (in Ohio), please email me at adavis@colfirestudios.com. We have a couple ideal locations for such a facility, and I'm sure if we do this "right", we can make this fly. I think that this would really be a great thing for the world of Internet gaming. Best of all, I would love to share some of the fantastic experiences that I have had while playing PC games with my friends
Mr. Jones, your house is ours! (Score:2)
Defuse ze dynamite!
LAN4EVR! (Score:1)
Names to faces? (Score:1)
Are you sure you want to do that? That face is probably the reason they're playing six hours of Quake on a Saturday night. =)
Pictures (Score:1)
Fragfest (Score:3, Flamebait)
Not that any of these were worthy, right?
2002-04-01 18:18:13 Gaming vs. Cinema Double Standards (articles,games) (rejected)
2002-04-18 15:31:27 Planetary alignment; The End must be near. (articles,science) (rejected)
2002-04-24 13:18:20 Second Front (articles,internet) (rejected)
2002-04-28 02:28:59 Subscription alternatives (articles,news) (rejected)
2002-05-02 18:37:13 Gaming vs. Music (articles,games) (rejected)
2002-05-15 05:36:39 Napster Approaches Bankruptcy (articles,music) (rejected)
2002-05-19 16:06:51 Florida Face Recognition Fails (articles,privacy) (rejected)
2002-05-21 15:46:01 A Tastier Chicken Through Genetic Manipulation (science,humor) (rejected)
2002-06-03 19:25:40 Bush Administration Global Warming Turnabout (articles,news) (rejected)
2002-07-11 05:31:21 Mining the Moon for Helium-3 (articles,news) (rejected)
2002-07-30 20:40:46 Jon, the Al-Qaida and the FBI (articles,internet) (rejected)
Really, I have a life beyond Slashdot, but this crap SO pushes my buttons. I know I'm not the only one out there with a worthy story, but what gets posted? "Wonderboy discovers LAN parties". Right.
Hardly new, indeed... (Score:2)
The only difference now is the splatter factor!
And the winner is... (Score:1)
Mandatory plugs:
http://www.slagg.org/ - LAN Party in Sarasota, Florida. People from all over the area, from north tampa to south of sarasota somewhere, come to play at this great 60+ LAN. The atmosphere is awesome, the people are great, the games are plentiful, and the administrator is a cool old-school geek with a long ass beard!
http://www.flux.org/ - Florida Linux Users Xchange. Having a lan party on September 21st in south florida. If they get enough people, we could organize really big ones! Oh, and here's the catch: LINUX IS ACTUALLY RECCOMENDED!
http://fl2600.cjb.net/ - Doing a sort of joint lan party with FLUX, this 2600 meeting at the Broward Mall in Broward County, Florida supports gaming as a very productive means of hacking. Imean, having fun. But what's the difference, really?
A little self promotion.. (Score:1)
How to find frag parties (Score:2)
I'm in the UK, by the way.
Re:How to find frag parties (Score:1)
Re:How to find frag parties (Score:2)
Hmmm. (Score:1)
RTCW anyone?
The future: Neverwinter Nights (Score:2)
I personally think a NWN gaming session will probably take longer than FPS game sessions, mostly because you have to do a lot more than just attack another character.
Its all about communication bandwidth (Score:2)
What these people are doing is using voice and vision to interact with each other while playing over a healthy amount of ethernet bandwidth. The real world chat plus the data chat makes for a really fat communication pipe and most people love it.
But you get the same effect even without being on the same LAN.
You can see this on the Internet games people play. On Everquest a couple of years ago, for big raids the group leaders would all be talking on the phone and on ICQ as well as playing in teams online.
You can also run a realtime voice server with Battlecom see (http://www.battlecom.org/ ) from Shadowfactor and this adds a whole new dimension to online play:
"Incoming over the hill on the right! Heal me, Heal me. Evac NOW! Damn I'm dead. Why are all our clerics ****ing retards?"
Try typing that with a pack on gnolls on your tail.
I think voice and video links over ADSL will be the next really big advance in online gaming.
Evil geniuses forever! (Score:1)
Re:the truth about jon carmack (Score:1)
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And round and round we go.
Re:Fragfest == Fagfest (Score:1)
Re:FAGFEST (Score:1)