How To Travel With LCD Gaming Screen? 278
johnpagenola asks: "My 17 year old son will start traveling this Fall to fencing tournaments, but he needs his gaming fix over the weekend. How best to travel with an LCD screen to protect it from damage? Is there a way to put together a storage device for LCD with speakers, SFF system unit, keyboard and mouse?" Other than "buy a laptop," can anyone suggest some travel-proofing tips for such a set-up?
Clamshell? (Score:1)
Re:Clamshell? (Score:2)
ThinkGeek [thinkgeek.com] carries a CRT carrier, and I have seen one made for LCDs with nice neoprene padding around, particularly in the june issue of "Computer Shopper"
How about a pelican case? (Score:5, Informative)
Pelican (Score:5, Informative)
foam suitcase? (Score:2)
A piece of plastic of the same size as the screen (with some foam..) and some velcro to keep it in place?
just some ideas..
Mod a briefcase (Score:1)
Not to be a troll... (Score:2, Insightful)
Now, back on subject, I'd suggest going with the Sony Glasstron [reviewfinder.com] goggles. I have a friend who had a setup with N64, PSX, DVD (Before PS2/Xbox) with these in his car. It worked really well for him.
i completely agree (Score:2, Offtopic)
if anything, i'd MAKE him get a laptop with a sub-par video card in it just so he wouldn't play games on it. or maybe just a cheap PDA.
Re:i completely agree (Score:4, Insightful)
Don't you feel old?
Re:i completely agree (Score:2)
Don't you feel old?
He shouldn't feel old. In a group setting, I'm sure there were times as a child/teenager when he couldn't socialize without the proper hardware interface, either, such as a ball, a bat, a hockey stick, a chess set, etc. Many games require more hardware that just a single ball and the favored way for young men and many young women to socialize is to play games.
Then again, many adults can't socialize without the proper chemical interface, which many of them are far more dependent on.
Re:i completely agree (Score:1)
Re:Not to be a troll... (Score:2)
Re:Not to be a troll... (Score:1, Offtopic)
Events like that are prime opportunities for socialization. That's when high school kids are supposed to have the high quality interactions they remember for the rest of their life. One more frag isn't going to be that memorable in the long run for your kid.
Re:Not to be a troll... (Score:2, Insightful)
You raise a good point. Combat books are a lot more than just mental preparation. I would recommend you read a good translation of Book of the Five Rings, by Miyomato Musashi. Here's an online [samurai.com] version. You can buy this at Barnes & Noble in the business motivation section, to give you an indication of it.
These are people that have earned utmost respect from dedication and focus, and their books explain how you can do this in any field, not just combat. I think that combat is an intrinsic part of building confidence. I'm not speaking purely of physical, but physical (obviou), verbal (debate), mental (chess).
You can be as aggressive as needs be, in the field that suits you best. If everyone was aggressive physically, you would naturally be that way. My guess is that you have spent most of your life living in an environment where mental combat is the most important, and that's where the passive nature comes from. I grew up in a more physically combative environment, and while I can speak well and carry good debate my main combat prowess does come from the physical.
Reading combat books, of all sorts, has improved my life dramatically. I would also classify the well-known Art of Happiness book as a combat book. It teaches you how to combat selfishness and greed, and improve your lifeview. It involves much consideration (5 points for catching the reference).
Re:Not to be a troll... (Score:1)
Re:Not to be a troll... (Score:2)
On a more serious note travelling away from home can be an excellent opportunity to learn some real life skills. As a group, those of us who toured around tended to be more mature, self reliant or independant, and more out going then our peers. I think encourageing your son to sit in the hotel room and play video games is just wrong. Instead this kid should be encouraged to get out of the hotel room to see the town and meet his fencing peers.
Re:Not to be a troll... (Score:2)
Why does everyone assume that he'll be playing alone? For a lot of people, video games are a group activity, just like any other game or sport. They don't make four player console games so that you can operate four different controllers by yourself, you know...
Re:I thought band camp was the reward for band. (Score:2)
Re:Not to be a troll... (Score:1, Troll)
As a parent of this gaming nut, I would be concerned more about my child's admitted gaming addiction, than finding a safe way to perpetuate the behaviour. They could modify a briefcase, build a wooden box with packing foam lining it, or they could solve the problem by telling their dear addicted gaming nut, that no he is not allowed to transport his desktop unit to every corner of the world. When he is in a new place, doesn't he want to see the sights? Is the computer mearly an intellectual crutch, or is there another reason for taking it?
Re:Not to be a troll... (Score:1)
I'm exceedingly not concerned with other peoples thoughts of me. Seldom does the favorable opinion of others coincide with the right thing to do. Indifference is the root of all evil. Just my philosophy.
I sat for a second, thinking if what I would say would be constructive. I feel that it is. Obviously his parents do have the money to be even pondering this question. Disappointing really, but that's the way life goes.
You could always say you will build a briefcase computer for him, for twice the cost. Rather easy to do. Use laptop components, with a "real" LCD display mounted in the top compartment with speakers. I've seen thing similar. Have a keyboard and a mouse that have holders but can be removed (or latched in) with power bored out of the back of the case.
Just an idea...
Re:Not to be a troll... (Score:2)
There are definitely better ways to spend down-time:
Re:Not to be a troll... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Not to be a troll... (Score:2)
Shit, today is saturday? Sweet, I have another full day of work I can get done before monday. Oh wait... Damn you for getting my hopes up.
Re:Not to be a troll... (Score:2)
http://www.oreilly.com/frank/webdesign_0401.htm
Uhm, yes, but... (Score:2)
Re:Not to be a troll... (Score:2)
I suspect you have never played Shadow Warrior [3drealms.com]. Yes, that is a good passtime to keep up on swordsmanship skills ;-) [j/k]
Re:Not to be a troll... (Score:2)
why doesn't everyone worry about parenting their own kids *OR* if you don't have any, shut the hell up?
This guy knows his kid a lot better than the rest of us desk jockeys, so he's in a better position to decide what's best in this situation. Why not just help the guy out?
Sounds like a pretty cool dad to me. My folks encouraged, and supported my gaming, and general futzing 'round with machines in my youth (Atari 2600, Trash-80s, AppleIIs, BleedingEdge 8008 boxen) and generally I think that's helped me be where I'm at in my career.
Quit casting stones...
Are you serious? (Score:1)
Re:Are you serious? (Score:2)
Who said it wouldn't? But if you have a desktop, a good 17" LCD monitor is half the price of a decent laptop.
>>why aren't you using a CRT to get some REAL gaming?
Perhaps because a CRT is 5 times bigger and heavier and is proportionally harder to carry around on fencing tournaments?
Re:Are you serious? (Score:2)
Desktop+LCD is still a lot easier than Desktop+CRT. (I never said I'd do it; just that an LCD would make it a bit easier)
Explore - don't sit in the hotel room (Score:1)
Really though, why does he need to take his computer with him? That's a bit sad. Get him some fake ID instead so he can go out on the lash after the tournament... in my experience it was always fun as fencing left me quite dehydrated. You'll be doing him a much bigger favour for later life. I liked going away to tournaments - I would take advantage of being somewhere I wouldn't normally visit to go and have a good time and see new places. I really enjoyed going to Montreal to fence, although I always got my arse kicked very severely.
Re:Explore - don't sit in the hotel room (Score:1)
So to combat the post-joist dehydration, you're suggesting something that has two major flaws:
1. Fake IDs are, if i'm not mistaken, Quite Illegal... (personally I don't have a problem with it but many people do not condone underage drinking)
2. You're suggesting combat the dehydrating effecs of fencing by consuming a beverage (alcohol) that, in and of itself, dyhydrates one's self? Ya, that's intelligent.
One solution (Score:2, Informative)
CaseAce (Score:5, Interesting)
If you don't need the protection (and weight) fo a hardtop case, you should check out the variety of computer carrying equipment at CaseAce [caseace.com]. I haven't used their new LCD harness, but the regular old CRT carrying harness has been a great investment. Turns something that's awkward into something easy to carry.
New fangled storage device (Score:1)
Willdow Design (Score:4, Informative)
They have a large number of monitor and LCD display cases. They also have a specific line for the Apple Cinema Displays as well.
Try the cases-cases (Score:1)
Re:Try the cases-cases (Score:1)
get a Pelican case (Score:2)
I would wean him off games now (Score:1)
People: don't sit back and let your children turn into yourselves! Humans are social animals, geeks especially. If you start them early, there's no telling what they can become!
Re:I would wean him off games now (Score:2, Insightful)
Ok, so let me get this straight. Instead of building up important hand-eye coordination, reaction time, and problem-solving skills, he should instead kill off as many brain cells as possible in order to be socially acceptable to jock-like peers. Well we all know how being socially accepted and having everyone like you while you puke in the back of a VW is important, so I guess you're sorta right...
GAME ON!
BTW, if you're trying to carry a flat screen LCD for use with a computer during a weekend event, essentially any plain ol' brown box will work as long as you don't step on and/or puncture it. (previous experience). Also you should check out that neat mini-pc that's the size of a cdrom drive at think geek [thinkgeek.com]
Have the kid get a life? (Score:1, Insightful)
seriously, if he can't go 2 days a week without playing games he's got some problems.
Monster cases (Score:2)
A life? (Score:1, Insightful)
Well that's just my 2 cents
OH Dear.. (Score:1)
Addicted? (Score:1)
Simple.... (Score:1)
Besides, most manufacturers won't repair a damaged TFT if it is damaged while in transit and the manufacturers' recommended precautions about using a container designed for the task haven't been followed.
Yet another reason to hang on to those boxes, kids!
How to preserve the styrofoam? (Score:2)
I use my original box to carry around my LCD. But every time I pack/unpack the screen, I lose a few bits of the styrofoam.
Any suggestions on how to keep the styrofoam together? I use packing tape, but was thinking maybe some spray adhesive and saran wrap? Any one have a good solution?
he is 17 years old (Score:2, Insightful)
Lend him your car (presumeably he has a license by now)
Re:he is 17 years old (Score:2)
Handgun cases (Score:1)
Of course, you're packing a different kind of heat. A 2 gun case should be enough for the monitor and some other "goodies"
Re:Handgun cases (Score:1)
Re:Handgun cases (Score:1)
Jebus! (Score:1, Insightful)
Maybe I'm old fashioned but whatever happened to the ancient art of reading? Humans have occupied themselves for thousands of years without having to get their "gaming fix." Instead of worrying about satisfying your sons raving video game addiction that apparently can't go a single day without gaming, maybe you should buy him some good books.
Jebus! (Score:2)
(For those of you still reading, I find it very presumptuous far anyone to dictate what people should and should not do in their spare time -- it is their choice. That this was ever modded up is a symbol of just how many bitter, jealous people read this site. This post is not unlike a law against sex between two consenting adults in the privacy of their own home.)
Re:Jebus! (Score:2)
The best thing you can do to him (Score:2)
Drop the monitor go with some goggles... (Score:1)
** PLUS! THINK HOW COOL YOU'LL LOOK! **
Imagine, fencing whilst goggling, defeating TWO OPPONENTS at once!
In fact, you should buy one of those remote-porno suits so that you get the full gaming experience... you'll be a
Walking-Action-Cyber-Killing-Opponent-Functioni
--otherwise known as a--
WACKOFF
(for short)
*******
Never underestimate the power of the wang... WA WA WA WANG!
Re:Drop the monitor go with some goggles... (Score:1)
Re:Drop the monitor go with some goggles... (Score:1)
i don't know what else to say
phjack
Two words: (Score:3, Funny)
Why lug a whole damn system around? Get a Game Boy, put it in your pocket.
How about stop gamming for a few days (Score:1, Insightful)
Metal Case & Window (Score:1)
other ideas (Score:4, Informative)
Try instead SKB [skbindustrial.com]. I've been using their gear for years, with never a problem. Well-made, water-tight, light-weight, and (optionally) ATA-rated.
More serious companies include such names as Starcase [starcase.com] and Anvil [anvilcase.com]. These are heavier, and generally made out of fiberglass-laminated plywood with aluminum extrusions holding the joints together. They don't mind being loaded up with equipment and dropped off of a truck much at all - something not easily said about any plastic case. Both Starcase and Anvil will gladly build a custom box for whatever it is that needs moved, which isn't so easy with plastic.
Or, build your own. TCH [tchweb.com] sells all manner of hardware and materials for building serious road cases and racks. They've got extrusions, fiberglass/plywood laminates, and all manner of hasps, clasps, latches, and hinges, brackets, doohickeys, hoosiwatsits, and other very important widgets for case-building.
College (Score:1)
Cheapest solution... (Score:1)
Should this sound a bit shakey, let me assure you that it isn't. Besides, if I'd like some more protection, all I need to add is a layer of plastic or something on the cardboard box "doors" to protect the screen.
Sometimes, what sounds simple & cheap, is actually a good solution :)
Case Ace LCD Shield Harness (Score:1)
I've used their Gear Grip Computer and Monitor harnesses for transporting my precious system to various LAN parties for the last year now. They are extremely durable with large, comfortable handles. Transplant
Do-it-yourself Aluminum Box (Score:2)
I was in a similar predicament. I have heard plenty of horror stories where LCD panels got cracked while being subjected to the pressure of books and odd objects in backpacks.
When I got my new laptop [slashdot.org], I was worried about taking it on-campus in my backpack. So, I built a custom aluminum box to protect the screen.
I picked up a 12-foot aluminum bar from a nearby sheet metal warehouse. I took it to a machine shop near campus and spent a couple of hours measuring, cutting, and drilling holes in the aluminum. I put it together with machine screws and corner brackets, and then I covered the inside with cardboard. I have three bars spanning the width of the box. While it doesn't completely encase the laptop, it is sufficient to keep the pressures of books off the computer.
The result is a fairly lightweight protective box that fits in my backpack and then protects the LCD panel from cracking (you could stand on the box with the laptop in it, and it would not put any pressure on the laptop itself). So far, it's worked like a charm. I am still careful not to drop my laptop into my backpack while it's resting on the floor, since longitudinal forces on the screen can also do damage.
Damn! (Score:2)
CaseAce (Score:1)
http://www.geargrip.com/
They're made with travel and gaming in mind.
Game system? (Score:2, Offtopic)
If you need to buy him something, buy him a digital camera. Give him some spending money. Buy the team nerf balls. Give him a guide to all ages clubs in your state / province. Give him rollerblades, frisbies, and waterguns. Give the coach specific instructions to not let him rot in his hotel room.
I love games. I haven't come across a game yet that I can't beat in 2 days, and my Maniac ERA continues to be a real crowdstopper. But they 're not everything. Your kid is 17, and is about to go on an oddessey. Would Homer sing of a developing young man staring at a slightly glowing fire and occasionally poking it with a stick?
It may be scary as a parent to think that your kid may be out in the real world, but he soon will be an adult and will have to make mature, adult decisions based on what he has experienced and shared with you. I'm sure if you have raised him well, he will do great. But don't love him so much that he isn't given those experiences until it is much to late for him to look to your guidance.
Part of your guidance should be to forbid him from taking his Playstation.
-Chris
Re:Game system? (Score:2)
No. (Score:1)
17? (Score:1)
The screen (Score:1)
Conspiracy theory (Score:2)
How about the box? (Score:2)
It depends. (Score:3, Informative)
There are plenty of pointers above for expensive solutions, so here's a cheap solution that works for most things you want to pack.
Get a box big enough to put the screen in. Get some garbage bags. Get some Great Stuff [dow.com] (available at any hardware store).
Put a garbage bag in the box, put the screen in the box, now fill the bag with great stuff. Fold the bag over so the goo doesn't come out & lay the box on it's side w/ the screen laying on the bag full of great stuff.
Put another bag on the other side. Fill it with great stuff. Wait. Ta-da. Just slide out both bags together and there you have it.
Works with just about anything, totally re-useable, and works pretty damn well.
One word of caution: ESD (Score:2, Informative)
OT: Slashdot bitching (Score:5, Insightful)
'Cause we do know what's best. (Score:2)
Foam and Velcro (Score:1)
The Shuttle SS51G cube has its own bag. Some clothes along with the wires, keyboard, mouse, etc., are thrown into this bag.
That's the "keep it simple" method.
Why is the father of a 17 year old asking? (Score:1)
Ask the musicians, they've done it for years (Score:1)
An example [barrycases.com]
If you're moderately handy, you can build a case yourself that, while heavy, will protect the screen just fine. The parts, such as handles and corner railings are all available if you look around [google.com].
Paradise carries a good selection. [aol.com]
Build it out of 3/4" plywood covered in laminate, and use corner and edge protectors and beefy latches. Line it with impact absorbant foam [foambymail.com], and you'll be good to go.
A case like this can be knocked out in an afternoon, and would only cost a couple hundred dollars.
K.
the cheep way (Score:1)
Yuppie Patrol (Score:2, Insightful)
Colour me a misanthropic nihilist, but piss off.
I don't care if this is a troll, SUV-driving, private-school-attending, prig kids who need their fix are not what I want to be reading about on
Bubble wrap (Score:2)
Buy roll of bubble wrap
Wrap monitor in several layers
Transport
I've Fed-Ex'ed an LCD monitor this way, no damage whatsoever.
Call me old fashioned (Score:2)
I'd worry more about security checkpoints (Score:2)
-josh
Give him some booze (Score:2)
OK, overprotective dad, here's what you have to do: Buy your kid a bottle of liquor. Perhaps a bottle or two of 1L Blackhaus [blackhaus.com], for starters. It's good-tasting stuff that's great for your first alcoholic experience. Or maybe some Absolut and orange juice! Your son can then go into the hotel room, tell his buddies (I'm at least hoping he has aqcuaintances), and then they will bring some girls. Everyone has a fun, drunken time, and he learns what it's really supposed to be like away from a goddamned video game.
This is what we did for Model UN tournaments, and we became the party club of the high school. Those were the days...
Trust me, at 17, your son is not yet completely out of the running for a NORMAL SOCIAL LIFE. But time's running low, and you've got to encourage better things than this (and yes, having a few drinks with friends and girls is better, regardless of anyone's spoon-fed Americanized moral objections).
Re:Give him some booze (Score:2)
Am I the Only Sane One Here?!?!?! (Score:2)
We polled over 10,000 people, interviewed industry experts, conducted focus groups, market studies, hired teams of nuclear physicists and asked all what was the best way to transport a computer or LCD without damage. We tabulated the results, input them into a terrabyte database, mined the data and examined the results with an expert system. The results:
Don't throw away the box it came in.
Like, duh...
Use a laptop (Score:2)
Use a gun case... (Score:2)
Just imagine him in college... (Score:2)
I gotta go...
Build an Anvil Rig (Score:2)
These are the boxes that you see bands transporting their gear in. Some of their models can be configured just like the Pelican cases, but more interesting are the boxes which are essentially portable rack mounts.
So, what I did was build a 2U computer box into an anvil case, and included a rack mount 12-port switch. Also, for convenience a rack mount power strip, and a light bar, that has little pop out lights so I can see the front panel in darkness, and it looks really cool.
With that, I've got a complete computing rig in a very durable frame. All you'd need is one of the previously mentioned slings for the LCD panel.
Certainly not the most compact solution, but it is definitly very survivable, and looks pretty cool.
buy a... (Score:2)
OK -- so you didn't want to buy a laptop, but what about a portable LCD-based DVD player? Most of those should have inputs to plug into any console, and although the screens are small, they close (like a laptop) to protect them from scratch damage etc.
I think it's somewhat crazy... (Score:2)
What you'd do best with is a hard case with foam rubber. You can then cram the LCD and speakers in the top half of the case, and the PC in the lower half. Leave room for ventilation, and make sure that the front of the LCD is covered with foam rubber when not in use!
The problem is that your son is carrying many pounds of gear, though. It's insane, since he's just asking for trouble carting something like that around. A laptop really is a better choice, especially with the new ones carrying Nvidia GPUs.
The better choice? A Gamecube or a PS2 with a flipdown LCD. Just get a padded bag, and you're ready to go. The best choice? Gameboy Advance. Good games, good battery life, and if it gets stolen, you're out what, 70 bucks?
As an avid gamer, I still think that he's better off not gaming all the time, unless he's really doing so with friends. A PC doesn't lend itself to social gaming as much as a console, though, and dedicated gaming hardware is just cheaper. I've been known to visit friends with a Gamecube in tow. My PC is much better off staying at home.
Re:Is this really necessary? (Score:1)
I agree with what everyone around me is saying-- these college club/team trips are a great social opportunity, and adding such a grave distraction like a Playstation will ruin that whole opportunity for your son. Like others have said, if he can't go that long without playing videogames (ESPECIALLY with 20 of his closest friends around him) then trying to figure out how to make a portable gaming system is the LEAST of his problems.
Re:Is this really necessary? (Score:2)
Let's just hope you weren't the only one sitting in the back row...