25 Best Linux Games 308
bobz writes "The Linux Game Tome has announced the winners of the Happypenguin Awards. Games, toys and libraries in 25 different categories were nominated and voted upon by the Linux gaming community. Take a look at the best Linux gaming has to offer." Alas, no SimCity 4, and no Sims Online.
25? (Score:3, Funny)
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Also these are only commercial ones there are a heap more free ones
there are 26 linux games?? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:there are 26 linux games?? (Score:5, Funny)
There are only two versions of solitaire, and one version of nethack. Rejoice!
List of Award Winners (Score:5, Informative)
Best Free Game - Frozen Bubble
Best Free 3D Action Game - Cube
Best Free Arcade Game - Frozen Bubble
Best Free Cards/Board/Gambling Game - PySol
Best Free Multiplayer Action Game - BZFlag
Best Free Multiplayer Strategy Game - Freeciv
Best Free Role-Playing Game - NetHack: Falcon's Eye
Best Free Simulation Game - Flight Gear
Best Free Single Player Strategy Game - Freeciv
Non-Free Games
Best Non-Free Game - Quake 3 Arena
Best Non-Free 3D Action Game - Return To Castle Wolfenstein
Best Non-Free Arcade Game - Space Tripper
Best Non-Free Cards/Board/Gambling Game - Eric's Ultimate Solitaire
Best Non-Free Multiplayer Action Game - Quake 3 Arena
Best Non-Free Multiplayer Strategy Game - Heroes of Might and Magic 3
Best Non-Free Role-Playing Game - Ultima I: A Legend Is Reborn
Best Non-Free Simulation Game - SimCity 3000 Unlimited
Best Non-Free Single Player Strategy Game - Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
Miscellaneous Categories
Best Emulator - ScummVM
Best Game Support Library - SDL
Best Graphics - Unreal Tournament 2003
Best Sound/Music - Frozen Bubble
Best Toy - Celestia
Most Original/Unique Game - Liquid War
Most Promising Linux Game Project - Planeshift
Re:List of Award Winners (Score:2, Funny)
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did you all notice this? (Score:2, Interesting)
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Ultima I: ALiR has been cancelled (Score:3, Informative)
It's totally unrelated to Ultima I.
See it at:
http://www.peroxide.dk/era/
Space Tripper deserves this (Score:3, Interesting)
Incredibly addictive stuff. I've been playing it for a year now and only just beat it on the hardest level. You won't regret checking out the demo at pompom.org.uk [pompom.org.uk] (you will, actually, if you value your time).
Gameplay is pure arcade goodness, with 3D graphics to match.
They've also recently released a robotron clone, Mutant Storm [pompom.org.uk].
Re:List of Award Winners (Score:2)
Reid
This list is why I keep a Windows box around. (Score:5, Interesting)
The state of gaming on Linux is terrible, and, unfortunately, I don't see it getting better any time soon.
- A.P.
Re:This list is why I keep a Windows box around. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:This list is why I keep a Windows box around. (Score:3, Interesting)
And no, Daikatana never ruled. It sucked from day one. Ask anybody. Ironically enough Mr. Romero is teaching the games class at SMU here in Dallas. I guess you can't do much worse than Daikatana, and about all he's good for at this point is teaching....
Re:This list is why I keep a Windows box around. (Score:3, Interesting)
Pretty much the entire Windows gaming community also agree that Quake 3 and CounterStrike are the best multiplayer FPS games (UT 2003 may have taken the lead recently, but it runs on linux as well, so...). They're both 3 years ago (if you count the fact that CS was built on Half-Life, it's over 3 years).
Just because it's old doesn't mean it's bad. Movies such as 'Gone with the Wind' and 'The Sound of Music' have been around for decades, and are still regarded as some of the best movies ever made. LOTR and The Hobbit were written well over 50 years ago, and are still loved today.
Liquid War (Score:4, Interesting)
Unfortunately, the game's strategy is closer to Go than Chess, so the computer is a pretty lame player.
But fear not! Liquid War has network play! So you can try your hand against other human players, if you can find anyone who's heard of it and is therefore willing to play against you.
Anyone in the Sacramento greater metro area, goto my homepage, find my email, and email me. We'll do a Liquidwar LAN party.
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Oh, do you also work for the department of redundancy department, too?
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Re:Old (Score:5, Interesting)
Right, but did you wait a year or two to buy Civ 2 before you started playing it? Did you wait another year or two for Civ 3 before you bought it? The fact is, new games only come out for Windows. If you like to play new cutting edge games without waiting for years for someone to (hopefully) port it then settle with Linux for games. Personally I'm like most people, my windows box (and PS2) is for games and my Linux box is my file server, shell box for programming, and all around general purpose workhorse. The Windows box is just a desktop for browsing IE only sites and a game machine. The right tool for the right job.
Re:Old (Score:2, Insightful)
The fact is you are wrong, *most* top titles do come out for Windows as that is where the monopoly is. Uplink, as I mentioned in another thread came out for both Windows and Linux as did Terminus. Others have only been a week or two behind, excluding Bioware's NWN, which we're still waiting on for the client.
"Personally I'm like most people, my windows box (and PS2) is for games and my Linux box is my file server, shell box for programming, and all around general purpose workhorse."
Like most people who don't think about their actions...
"The Windows box is just a desktop for browsing IE only sites and a game machine. "
Then get Winex and Crossover Office at least, you can use IE within wine and don't have to worry about the Windows.
Support Linux or Mac and help bring diversity back to the computing platform, its much better for the computing ecosystem. But then you'd rather sit there and talk about right tools for the right job, how on Earth did the tools come about? Oh people worked for it...Remember when Linux was seen as a toy even on the server? How times have changed.
StarTux
Re:Old (Score:3, Insightful)
These days it's more like "most of the new games come out for consoles." Even if you despise consoles, you have no where else to go if you want to play Mario Sunshine, Splinter Cell, Vice City, Final Fantasy X, Metal Gear Solid 2, Ratchet & Clank, Halo, Ico, and so on.
To some extent all of the high-end 3D troubles on PCs (both Windows AND Linux) are to blame: constant driver and bios upgrades, difficulty in determining what card can be used to play what game, card compatibility issues, etc.
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Or rather, because games are not widely available today doesn't mean they'll never be.
I really wish I had a nickle for every time someone said that real gamers only use Windows. It's one of the silliest ideas I've ever heard of. Obviously not every game company is going to drop everything and start porting games to a platform with only 1%,2%,5% (or whatever it is now) share of the desktop market. It's incremental. Everything is incremental in the market. As the market share increases for Linux desktops, so will software availablity. As that availability increases so will share.
I have no idea why people think that because it's a great idea to have Linux desktop machines, and Linux games on those machines, that magically the entire market should be converted over night. Nothing happens this way. Ever.
The move from Dos to Win3.x to Win95 was incremental too. When Win95 first came out you could have made the exact same argument about it vs. Dos. True many games would run under Win95 that were intended for Dos, but still in general the speed was better with a clean boot. So I heard the same things: real gamers use Dos, Windows is meant for business applications, not games... why would anyone want to use it for games?
Well, here we are, aren't we?
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Are you bragging or complaining?
IMO that's the strength of OSS games: they can evolve continuously rather than being discarded after a year due to marketing demands. Within a decade the best-of-breed in every gaming category will be an OSS game.
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One of the reasons that games do well on the PC is that evne though the game will be pirated, there will still be enough sales to warrant the initial investment and recoup your costs of paying the programmers.
The problem is that games don't fit into the enterprise software model (which is one of the few ways to make money in the Linux/OSS world). You have to have money to start the development on one and you won't make any money on support/training for it. In addition, few people are likely to even want to pay for the initial copy of it. In addition, even without piracy, the market segment for Linux/OSS is not that big. This leaves you in the area of doing it for FreeBeer(tm) style development. How many game developers are going to code a game for free? Some, sure. How many who code games for a big game house will have the free time (unless supported by the game house) of developing/porting for Linux/OSS? Maybe a few.
Game lifespan is too short (among other things) to fit the enterprise model. Until you can make money developing games on Linux/OSS so you can pay people to code them, I'll predict that the rate of new games emergence will be slow.
Yeah, man!! (Score:2)
Yeah, within a decade, Linux will certainly have the best "xbill" implementation out there!
As for first-person shooters, sims, and, hell, even side-scrollers, allow me to vehemently disagree. Allow me to propose an alternate future scenario:
The commercial gaming sphere is where all the research and development money is and where all the cutting-edge games will continue to be produced; OSS will continue in its proud tradition of blatantly co-opting and copying everything the commercial game industry does. People will continue to purchase, play, and enjoy commercial offerings and the Linux Game Tome will still have trouble finding 24 Linux games to award "Happy Penguins" to.
Your pie-in-the-sky OSS fantasy is nice to think about, but, back in what I like to call "reality", things are a little different.
- A.P.
Re:Yeah, man!! (Score:3, Interesting)
The problem: lack of innovation. How many first person shooters and mmorpg's do we need? The reason is that the cost of development has risen so sharply, that to recoup the cost of working on games, game houses have to make a sure fire hit. It's not an option to make a flop like Daikatana that 1. brings nothing new to the genre, 2. comes out late, and 3. sucks ass beyond compare. You have to make sure your game will sell.
In this scenario, companies will NOT venture into some new area or create a new paradigm of gaming. You'll get another FPS. You'll get another Quake, another Soldier of Fortune, another Civilization. Why? Because these are sure things. Not to go off on a tangent, but this type of thing has been ruling the music world in America and other countries for the last decade or so. You'll get nothing but more Britney Spears and other disposable stars because the cost of entry is so high, the industry bets on the easy winner. What sold yesterday? Package it up with a new paint job and sell it tomorrow.
No, friend, unfortunately the big game houses won't bring you the hidden nuggets of gaming goodness, unless another Quake or running-through-dungeons-swinging-swords is what you're after. Not to say these are bad things, but games like Uplink (fun and revolutionary) would have never rolled out the doors or made it through a proposal at Valve or Sierra or Activision or (fill in the blank). There are lots of games out there you've never imagined before, and you're missing out because your only source of amusement comes from the shelf at Best Buy.
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If you intended to troll, woops, I took the bait, but seriously, can you honestly say that every non-commercial HalfLife and Quake3 mod out there is worse than anything in a bargain bin? They may be commercial GAMES but they're 100% free MODS. All the mod makers are doing is using the engine.
Factor this into your reasoning and get back to me on that.
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Of course some are over a year old, it takes time and costs money to port to Linux. Now if you stopped and thought about it and actually bought a couple of games for Linux from http://www.tuxgames.com you'd see more and more games appear a lot quicker from the bigger companies.
OTOH, have you played Uplink? Just because it didn't end up on Happy Penguins winning list does not mean a thing, its one of the big surprises of 2002; a game by a small development team that is very addictive and was released on Linux at the same time as the Windows version. Its here http://www.introversion.co.uk.
I didn't vote for Quake 3, its really quite sad people put that as the best game, as with all things Linux related my opinion differs. Perhaps next year they can limit the vote to commercial games released during the year. As for the free games, most are still in active development.
The upshot of your argument and others who make it is that we'll never help break break the monopoly on the desktop with that attitude, and yes to begin with we need to help create the correct amount of market share (yes its hard to manage), but do you, when you see a game you'd like to play, e-mail the publishers and developers with a kind e-mail?
Are you one of those people who runs a Linux gaming server? If so, write to the development and ask for a client and actually use that client.
StarTux
Re:Old (Score:5, Interesting)
It does if the hammer is going to cost you $200.
I like your analogy though
Why use a $200 hammer that can't turn a screw when you can use a free screwdriver that can pound in a nail.
I'm sure someone can reword that nicely into a sig...
Re:Old (Score:5, Funny)
No No No! You young people have no appriciation of the proper use of tools.
Screwdrivers are used to chop a mortise for a door hinge.
A chisel is for opening paint cans.
A hammer is for driving screws IN.
Pliers are for taking screws OUT.
Linux games vs. shareware stuff for Win (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Linux games vs. shareware stuff for Win (Score:4, Insightful)
Because not all Linux games are free
Unreal Tournament, Railroad Tycoon 2, the various Sims, QUAKE! - these games aren't free or even shareware. I wouldn't expect them to be better, but at least comparable to their Windows counterparts.
Why is it that when people think of Linux, or any other OpenSource project, they immediately think "free"? These terms aren't interchangeable. And not all the software that goes with them is going to be OpenSource or free either.
Grow some balls, pay for your software.
Re:Linux games vs. shareware stuff for Win (Score:2)
doom was shareware (Score:2)
That aside, maybe this is what Linux needs, a great native (no win32 version) game where the first few levels are free, but you'd have to pay to play the rest of it. Of course, we'd have to hope pirates wouldn't ruin the system for everybody.
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This way, you have a big space with like only ten mines. A lot of times, you can clear the board with one click.
YES! New Record! One Second! Woohoo!
Re:Linux games vs. shareware stuff for Win (Score:2)
You are absolutely correct. I just did this and it is great fun.
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Type "xyzzy" and then a single pixel in the corner of your screen will blink when you mouseover a mine.
Re:Linux games vs. shareware stuff for Win (Score:3, Funny)
Anyway, I saw this post, and I just thought it was hilarious how anyone could be so excited about Minesweeper. So, for your viewing pleasure, here it is:
From: Wayne (wayne@dmntor.UUCP)
Subject: XYZZY : Minesweeper code
View: Complete Thread (6 articles)
Original Format
Newsgroups: rec.humor
Oh my GAWD!!! It worked !!!!!!!!!! I was reading the posts on the minesweeper crack-code and finally got it to work. Seriously, this is what to do: Load "Windows" (I have 3.1 if that makes a difference?) Load up "Minesweeper" With mouse arrow anywhere on screen type: xyzzy {hit enter} {hold shift+hit enter} Look way up at the top left corner of the screen and you will see a single pixel of light flash on and off as you move the mouse across the minesweeper playing field: the light will stay on for blank spots and will go out when you pass over a mine. I have a bright color background but still could see the white light flashing on and off (so no need to change your background which may be a pain in the ass just to cheat at a stupid game for two minutes).
I was sure that this was a bunch of bullshit just to get people to sit there and waste their time trying some stupid non-existent command. But to my amazement, it worked.
OK, now that this worked, WHAT OTHER SECRET THINGS ARE THERE??
Re:Linux games vs. shareware stuff for Win (Score:2, Interesting)
1 1 1 []
1 X 1 []
1 1 1 []
[] [] [][]
You could click all seven of the empty boxes [] as long as the bold 1 only borders the square that then must contain the mine and the other borders are all 1s.
I'd rather not... (Score:4, Funny)
-Mark
I hope they included nethack (Score:5, Funny)
You gained an experience level!
Stores to buy (Score:3, Interesting)
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Re:Stores to buy (Score:5, Informative)
Loki Games' has ceased to exist but their site still lists their resellers here [lokigames.com], I'm sure many of them still stock Loki's old games and probably titles from other publishers too.
Linux Game Publishing lists their resellers here [linuxgamepublishing.com].
YASP (Yet Another Stupid Post) (Score:3, Funny)
Falcon's Eye isn't Old-Skool enough! And another thing: how many of those games would require X to run?
Red L? (Score:2, Funny)
Linux needs games (Score:5, Insightful)
IMO, Linux needs games in order to "make it" in the mass market. It already has the good O/S, it has the word processing software, it has GUIs if you want them - the only thing it doesn't have is a good games library.
Once you get developers either making games specifically for Linux or devs porting other O/S games to Linux, then Linux will be ready to take down the MS behemoth. After all, once it has games, you wouldn't need a different O/S for anything and you could then use your Windows discs as really cool frisbees :)
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I agree that OSX looks great.
Why don't people use OSX? It only runs on Mac hardware. I am not saying that Mac hardware is bad, but there are a LOT of people who won't buy it AND it is more expensive than other X86 platforms. One last point is that it says Macintosh. A ton of people hate Apple, or bought an X86 box and want to "justify" their decision by puting down other systems.
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Linux needs marketing (Score:5, Interesting)
See, you say linux has a good OS, many good GUIs (I really love GNOME), and office tools for people to work on. I wouldn't disagree with you there... but that's not the problem. People just don't wanna use linux. And by "People" I mean "the masses."
Here's an example. Dreamweaver is the most incredibly wonderful GUI-based web design program there is. It has everything anyone needs, and it outputs tight, compatible code. But do "people" use it? No.... I work in a place where we have enough licenses to go around, and what does everyone want? Frontpage. F'ing Frontpage. Not Claris Homepage, not Netscape Composer. F'ing Frontpage. And they ask me stupid things like "I want to use Frontpage, can you install it on the server for me?" ARGH!
See, Frontpage isn't requested because it's... well.. good... or useable... or functional for that matter. Everyone wants it because it's MS Word for web pages. It may be a disgusting train wreck of a program the likes of which should warrant its creators' executions on a public street in broad daylight as a warning to other MS programmers, but the "people" are too lazy and dumb to contest their friend who says "Frontpage is the best" because he heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy who heard it from a sales-bot at CompUSA. Why do sales clerks reccommend Frontpage? Because it's wizard-based, and any monkey can do that... less chance of returned product.
So the moral? "People" will continue to use Windows and slink away from linux as long as we keep thinking that they're too stupid to learn anything else. It's about time to shirk the attitude of "I use linux, but that's because I'm a genius. You lower life forms can use Windows." It'll go a long way.
Oh, and never use your Windows discs as frisbees. Instead, keep them around to make copies for all of your friends.
Re:Linux needs marketing (Score:3, Interesting)
Linux has become easy to install, but is still a pain to configure. There is no good equivilant to the control panel. Linuxconf isn't nearly thorough enough, and can be confusing. SuSE has YaST, which I hear to be good.... unfortunately, SuSE isn't intended as a desktop OS. We need to appeal to the quasi-power-user crowd. Believe it or not, most windows users aren't idiots.
Package managment as it stands now is pitiful. On windows and MacOS, I can download a binary, double click it, install it, and run it (all in under a minute).
Linux, on the other hand is a pain. I have to download a package, pray that it works on my distro (if i'm lucky, I can find an RPM or DEB). Then I have to satisfy dependencies (which might not be an official part of my distro). More hunting. When it's finally installed, it doesn't even bother to put an icon in my menu or desktop, or tell me how to configure it (or even provide an easy means of configuring it).
It's the simple things that make linux fall down. We've conquered all the hard stuff. Why is it so hard to get the small stuff worked out?
Re:Linux needs games (Score:2)
Now, which of those conditions would be "the chicken," and which "the egg?"
I am frankly amazed that any game shy of some "Pong"-like thingie coded by some hobbyist across a long weekend has ever been made for Linux. There is a ridiculously small installed base of Linux desktops relative to even the Mac OS (and we all know how well they're taken care of by the game developing community...).
I switched from Windows to Linux with nary a second thought once OpenOffice and GNUCash got real. It's all about productivity. Now I get my work done, business and personal, without the crashes and the hangs. That's what I need a computer for.
Which is not to say I don't game. Several hours a day, seven days a week, in fact. All on an XBox, which is to say, a gaming console. Radical concept, no? And I never have to worry whether or not the graphics processor in my console will be sufficient for me to get the most out of the game I buy.
I also don't use my propane torch to toast my bread in the morning, nor do I drink my beer from a bowl. I could, of course, 'cept I've got other things in my house already which are much better suited to that function.
"Gaming On Computers" is a remnant of an earlier time. It was a GREAT time, don't get me wrong (I still gaze fondly at my carefully preserved 5.25" floppies of "Gunship" [CGA Version]) but time is marching on. Console hardware sales and console game production is up, the median age of console gamers is wa-a-ay up, and the original trend of games debuting on PC and porting over to the consoles is reversing.
. ...which is good for Linux. I don't know whether or not it's good for the poor ol' sod who wrote "pySOL" or whatever the hell it was, but it's good for Linux.
Spectrum emu. - one of the best games for Linux (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Spectrum emu. - one of the best games for Linux (Score:2, Insightful)
Don't dismiss C64 emulation either. I still love playing M.U.L.E. and Archon.
Gaming on linux (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Gaming on linux (Score:5, Insightful)
You mean, kinda like how id Software does? Or maybe Epic (Unreal, Unreal Tournament)?
The reality is that there are some companies supporting Linux - id Software is probably the best as far as it goes - but it's not making money. For id it's not a huge deal, since they've specifically chosen a portable development structure, but for most companies it's a huge ordeal to not use DirectX, or to port from DirectX to anything else. And sales (and usage) figures aren't indicating that it's worth the money to do so.
Re:Gaming on linux (Score:2)
Re:Gaming on linux (Score:2, Informative)
They also ship the Linux binaries on the 3rd CD that ships with the game. Hows that for a top selling game with Linux support straight out of the box eh?
Cut-n-Paste Karma Whoring (Score:5, Informative)
Frozen Bubble is great! (Score:2)
Er, MAME? (Score:5, Funny)
Games available on Linux, right? So that would include every arcade game up till the late 90's, right? Unless there's a hidden rule saying the game can't be emulated or illegal...?
Samurai Shodown
Tempest
Strike Force
I, Robot
New Zealand Story
Drift Out
Metal Slug
Waku waku 7
Alien vs Predator
Re:Er, MAME? (Score:2)
Huge omissions (Score:5, Funny)
Let's not forget the old classic:
cat /var/spool/mail/hotgirl | grep sex
Although I think that's probably closly followed by 2 others:
$IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $EXTIF -o $INTIF -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
tail - 200 access.log | grep "GET /scripts/root.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0"
I got a new game recently: The Oracle 9i install! [oracle.com] I've been playing this for MONTHS now, and I'm still not sure how it's gonna turn out! I love the way you have to keep trying different things until you finally solve it! Please no spoilers!
I'm also a big fan of the "adding a non-standard serial device" game, but I'm not very good at it yet.
The Top 3 Mac Games (Score:5, Funny)
3 in Three (Score:2)
Re:The Top 3 Mac Games (Score:5, Informative)
Thanks, Quarters. Until now I couldn't hear that he said "Photoshop".
Still Happy ? (Score:2)
The Linux Game Tome has announced the winners of the Happypenguin Awards
Is the penguin happy about the
Add one to the list! (Score:5, Funny)
You play a software programmer who has one mission: Get Linux Ready for the Desktop!
You must navigate new users, configuration scripts, unsupported printers, and obscure terminal messages!
Your enemy, BILL GATES will do anything to stop you! Beware the dreaded Intellectual Property attack, and the TOC missle! Dodge laywer after laywer who will try anything to stop you! Pick up pizzas, Mountain Dew, and Penguin Mints for extra power!
All this without a consistent user interface, and sound!
If you think your good enough to beat the 'Steve Balmer Monkey Dance' and churn out a thousand lines of code a day, you just might be ready for "Get Linux Ready for the Desktop"!
Act now, and well include a DCCS encoded bonus level: 'Shave Richard Stalman!'
You gotta be quick, you gotta be good, you gotta "Get Linux Ready for the Desktop"! [apple.com]
Number 26 (Score:4, Funny)
Tribes 2 (Score:5, Interesting)
T2 is a newer game than Quake 3, has unbounded maps and much deeper gameplay.. yet does not even warrant a mention? Come on!
Dynamix is gone... (Score:5, Informative)
I was a huge Tribes fan, and waiting for a long time for Tribes2 to come out since it meant that I could finally dump Windows and use Linux for everything. After about a year I realized that wanting to use Linux for everyday gaming use was a pipe dream. I still play Wolfenstein, SimCity, Tribes2 and old ROMs and stuff, but to play PC games these days you either need WineX or a Win32 partition.
-B
Ur-Quan Masters (Score:4, Informative)
"Playing the Open Source Game" (Score:5, Interesting)
Check it out Here [demon.co.uk]
They rejected my story :( (Score:3, Funny)
Why Switch to Linux? (Score:2, Informative)
But, as a gaming platform, Linux still isn't exactly jumping out at me
Scorch2000 (Score:2)
Too bad Kolf didn't get released sooner.
What about UT2003? (Score:5, Interesting)
NOTE: (Score:2, Informative)
But yes, it's there. That makes it much more convenient that UTGOTY which advertised works with Linux and pretended to have the installer on the disk. Upon insertion no installer was found and it said go to the website for download. GOTY was not covered, had to google for a 3rd (4th?) party hack that made it work.
Agreed, other than the hide it and disclaim it part I think it's the best Linux game around.
UT2003 was NOT the first (Score:3, Informative)
This was in 2001.
Oh, and on a different note, it doesn't have to be tough and costly to port games if they're designed from the ground up to be multi-platform; remember, only the executables have to be different - the trick is to spin off all the media (graphics, audio, etc.) into separate dynamically loaded files.
eductational games? (Score:3, Interesting)
I'd like to find good games helping kids to study Math (something more complicated than adding and multiplying. Algebra perhaps?), English grammar, typing (I do mean *blind* typing method), geography, history and literature.
Each time I see some good games for Mac and Windows in nearby stores I ask myself - isn't anyone interesting to port (and sell!) them for Linux?
I heard lots of stories about Linux in schools. What are they doing with Linux? Just browsing internet, reading email and typing (by single finger!) simple office docs? How about real educational programs?
I am sick of game market - it's completely overwelmed by violence. Why do we prepare our kids to kill each other (and ourselves!)?
Re:Quake III still kicks ass!!!!!!!!! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Quake III still kicks ass!!!!!!!!! (Score:2, Informative)
Personally Quake II is the one that I think was probably the best in terms of style (after Doom II of course!), I never really liked Quake that much. Currently I play quite a lot of UrbanTerror [urbanterror.net] which is a free Q3 total conversion which is like Counterstrike. UrbanTerror works fine in Linux and they have a Linux section of the support forums.
The other Linux games I have a Wolfenstine and Tribes 2 but after playing them for a bit I found that I always end up going back to Quake 3.
I don't actually miss the fact that there are not many Linux games -- there are enough for the time I have to play them.
Re:Quake III still kicks ass!!!!!!!!! (Score:2)
Even Quake I was a knock-off (Score:5, Interesting)
Doom was the original and even Castle Wolfenstein 3D before that should get the real credit but it didn't quite have the environment that Doom had (the secret levels paying homage to Wolf3D and Keen were great).
Playing Doom with my Gravis Ultrasound MAX sound card so I could hear guitars in the music was just awesome. Simply hearing the music for level 1 was amazing. And the stereo separation was so good that I could kill enemies with the (single barrel only) shotgun with my eyes closed. Played great on Linux in an X11 window too.
I wish another game would come along with the impact that Doom had. It was just SOOOO amazing and nothing has come close since. Every 3D shooter since is just the same old with better graphics and sound, aside from interesting forms of multiplayer action like Team Fortress and Infiltration. Pretty sad, actually, but at least 3D shooters haven't had to go down the cheesy movie route like adventure games.
Multiplayer really came along with Quake. In Doom it worked better as a cooperative feature. Deathmatch was really born in Quake, along with Capture the Flag, Team Fortress, etc.
Doom (and Doom II) is probably the best game ever! (Score:2)
Yeah Doom and Doom II (Doom II was Doom with an double barreled shotgun and new levels) were totally amazing. Some of the architecture of the levels is still more memorable for me than many other, later games.
What is really cool is that since Idsoftware GPL'ed the code (not the levels textures or music but the 3d engine) people have been able to add new things, like mouse aiming and the ability to jump up and down -- check out PrBoom [sourceforge.net]! (I assume almost everyone has a CD somewhere with the Doom wad files on it? or am I just showing my age?!)
Duke Nukem 3D was fab as well but I guess it's now dead because the engine wasn't GPL'ed :-(
Two words (Score:4, Insightful)
Deus Ex
You will be waiting a long time. (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm afraid that you will be waiting a long time. It's not even the gaming industry's fault on this one. Games like DOOM (or whatever your first quality game of any genre is) are like your first love: you never quite recapture the feeling of that very first (insert first sexual encounter here).
DOOM did a good enough job at faking 3D that when we got real 3D it wasn't that big of a deal. And now that we have 3D, what's left? Better graphics. And one day, maybe, passable AI.
The closest I've gotten to recapturing the feelings I had when playing DOOM have been with Half-Life and Halo. But neither of these games made me stare into my monitor at an odd angle trying to see around the corner, and they only made me jump out of my chair about three times each.
Re:How generous! (Score:5, Informative)
Celestia (Score:3, Informative)
In any event, I suspect if you take a look at the program you'll likely agree its one of the coolest toys out there
Re:No Sims Online? Not missing much... (Score:2)
Linux ain't that bad, comparatively (Score:3, Funny)
1. Pop the CD in, try to run the installer
2. Installer complains about bad DirectX version
3. Download DirectX point release from Microsoft, install, reboot
4. Run the installer again, type in the 43-digit alphanumeric CD key, wait for game publisher's central server to decide that you are in fact not a theiving bastard, and did indeed pay for the game
5. Run game, wait through 2 full minutes of commercials for game's developer/publisher
6. Play game, find out it wasn't worth the trouble
Net results:
Linux gaming: wasted afternoon
Windows gaming: wasted afternoon, $40 down the drain
Re:Linux ain't that bad, comparatively (Score:3, Insightful)
3. Installers always have the version of DX they requre to run on the disk. No DLing needed.
4. Actually nearly all games, unlike office software, do NOT require a number, just that the CD be in the drive to run it.
5. HIT THE DAMN SPACE BAR!
6. Well if you're not a gamer, why did you buy it in the first place?
More example of bad Linux attitude. Comepete lack of knowledge of the subject and abject spewage of non-facts about anything non-Linux or non-open source.
Net results:
Man who speaks the truth about state of Linux gaming gets modded to oblivian.
Man who makes stupid and completely baseless "joke" becomes local hero.