Father of Video Games turning 60 205
Bill Kendrick writes "Nolan Bushnell, founder of Atari and the "father of video games" will be turning 60 next week, on February 5th.
Along with Atari, which Bushnell began in 1972 (and left before the end of the decade), he
also founded over 20 other companies, including Chuck E. Cheese
Pizza Time Theater restaurants. He holds many patents relating to both
video games and other industries.
For more on The Bringer of Pong, check out some interviews from the San Jose Mercury, Metroactive and over at Good Deal Games, as well as his Wikipedia entry. Happy birthday, Nolan!"
I'd claim FIRST POST... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I'd claim FIRST POST... (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm a little surprised he was modded as off-topic. I think he was making a humorous allusion to Steve Russell, the guy who created Space War in the 1960's. This site has the info. [216.239.37.100]
He should have gotten modded up, not down. Oh well, I guess not everybody is versed in Video Game History.
Re:MOD PARENT UP! (Score:1)
At +2?
Re:I'd claim FIRST POST... (Score:2)
Though I was making a lame 'Father of' joke with Al Gore as the subject, the other AC was right that I was referring to the true inventor of Video Games. I could have made a big speech about it, but I wanted a +1 Funny, not a +1 Informative.
I'm sorry you weren't capable of deducing the meaning of my comment on your own.
Aha! (Score:5, Funny)
Damn you Nolan!
Hunh... (Score:3, Funny)
Ok, well, I'll get right on building a new generation of videogames, making an innovative pizza chain, and a theatre chain as well, and then will I have a shot at it? (When I'm 60?)
Re:Hunh... (Score:3, Funny)
Let's see them post that on slashdot. Hah!
(Please don't... I'm being sarcastic... I don't want to be famous in any way, and I know if I got posted on slashdot I would die because I'm just a lousy quasi computer nerd... Please don't hurt me!)
Re:Hunh... (Score:2)
For some reason, bragging and talking about this seems to have a rather adverse effect on my relationships with females... Wonder why...
Re:Aha! (Score:2)
Re:Aha! (Score:2)
You are Nolan's bastard son.
Nolan Fathered Steve P Jobs! (Score:5, Insightful)
Nolan a worth while Moron to know..okay for tha tinside joke see some of his antics..very non mormon
Because of him (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Because of him (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Because of him (Score:2, Insightful)
Perhaps, stating: "So thats whos behind me flunking out of college, along with all those nightmares about table tennis and jumping on aligators to cross swamps!"
Perhaps you may try to think of a better way to humor the slashdot crowd without insulting us so much.
Perhaps I am wrong and will be modded as such.
Sig Starts Now!
Re:Because of him (Score:2)
Then again... I might have gotten laid a lot more if I didn't play video games. Someone get me Johnny Cochrane and William Kuntsler! (Dig him up if you have to!)
Re:Because of him (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Because of him (Score:2)
I ought to blow you away with my DD4 Dostovel, or my flying hat, or my paddle, or, or, or..... damn.
Ah, the Atari... (Score:5, Funny)
Those were the days. I kind of miss the difficulty switch too.
Re:Ah, the Atari... (Score:1)
Re:Ah, the Atari... (Score:2, Funny)
translation if you're 25 years or less:
you move your 24 pixel monochrome character around the bottom of your tv screen
Re:Ah, the Atari... (Score:2)
Amen, brother.
Re:Ah, the Atari... (Score:2)
I'm starting to get tired of the 3d-super-graphics-run-shoot games now. I wanna get back to the basics of fun gameplay!
--jeff++
Re:Ah, the Atari... (Score:2)
Kang and Kodos (Score:5, Funny)
Of course... (Score:5, Funny)
and has no kids.
CHUCK E CHEESE (Score:3, Funny)
I loved that place.
Never had pizza with that unique flavor, either.
Re:CHUCK E CHEESE (Score:3, Funny)
Father of Video Games (Score:5, Insightful)
Not that Nolan Bushnell doesn't deserve a happy birthday, but isn't Ralph Baer [pong-story.com] the father of video games?
Maybe the father of video games at home.
Ravi
Re:Father of Video Games (Score:1)
Apparently we have Bushnell to thank for Computer Space [geocities.com], which according to this site was the "world's first arcade video game system." A variation on the PDP-11 game Space War (which as I recall just used numbers, symbols, and letters to represent characters and action... more of a prototype or an experiment than a full-fledged game that was released upon the world.)
Although this site, too, credits Pong to Bushnell, so I'm not sure how accurate this all is.
Re:Father of Video Games (Score:5, Informative)
Space War had a high-resolution dot display (not raster pixels, not vectors - dots). You can play it if you download a copy of MESS [emuverse.com]. It wasn't a prototype or experiment - it was a very popular game, with a tournament league and ongoing development.
Space War wasn't actually the first video game either, though - that's believed [osti.gov] to have been a Pong-like game played on an oscilloscope display. The first actual Pong game was Baer's, playable on a TV set with the Odyssey - Bushnell just commissioned an arcade version (from you know who). I'm not particularly sure if Bushnell is the "father" of anything (what's people's obsession with identifying one originator, anyway? Plain old hero worship?), but he obviously did a lot to popularise coinop video games. Mixed blessing though that is. ;)
Re:Father of Video Games (Score:3, Funny)
Many, many, many people I guess consider him the 'defacto' father. While, technically, I guess Nolan's more like the husband, and someone like Ralf Baer or others named later in this thread were the 'milk man.'
Ok... am I being funny now, or just downright lame? Sorry
Happy birthday, anyway. If it weren't for my Atari 1200XL and 2600, I probably wouldn't have this great job doing... wait... web design at Worldcom? CRAP!
Re:Father of Video Games (Score:4, Interesting)
http://www.pong-story.com/inventor.htm
Re:Father of Video Games (Score:5, Informative)
Might or might not be off-topic, but.. (Score:2, Offtopic)
With a bear instead of a rat?
I like those better.
Oh yeah, and Pitfall was the grandfather of mario!
--Sig starts Now!
Re:Might or might not be off-topic, but.. (Score:2)
I don't know the details of the business side of things, but I can tell you that in Kansas City our local "Show Biz Pizza" turned into Chuck E. Cheese, and yes it did have a bear in the band.
"Oh yeah, and Pitfall was the grandfather of mario!"
Heh. Nintendo's largely responsible for making gaming as successful as it is today. The game market really crashed in the early 80's. Nintendo rejuvinated it with their NES, aith plenty of credit to Super Mario Bros.
Games before then were all about higher scores. Mario Bros. really changed that thought process because instead of trying to get score, instead the goal was the save the princess. The result? The game actually had an ending! Ever since, games have had a much broader approach, thus resulting in the necessary diversity to sustain a good growing market.
Bushnell's Birthday at Chuck-e-Cheese (Score:5, Funny)
If there truly is a God in this universe, I want him/her/it to make sure that Nolan Bushnell spends his 60th birthday fighting crowds of hyperactive kids screaming over the din of 100 videogames just so he can choke down terrible pizza while being serenaded by an animitronic rat or bear or whatever the fuck they've got at Chuck-e-Cheese nowadays.
GMD
Re:Might or might not be off-topic, but.. (Score:1)
Re:Might or might not be off-topic, but.. (Score:2)
This is entirely false (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.pong-story.com/rhbaer.htm
I know Mr Baer personally, he is a close family friend from Manchester, NH. This story turned my stomach and I am disgusted that slashdot would EVER post such trash without researching a submission like this..
Re:This is entirely false (Score:5, Funny)
Re:This is entirely false (Score:5, Funny)
Re:This is entirely false (Score:4, Funny)
But anyway, I don't see why the Group of Super Midgets that generated this page for me couldn't be trained to eliminate dupes. If they can't even do that, then quite frankly I don't think they're so super. They're just ordinary midgets. Just like all the other high-tech sweat shop child laborers in India.
Re:This is entirely false (Score:2)
Oh no (Score:2)
Oops.
Re:Oh no (Score:2)
Re:This is entirely false (Score:1)
Re:This is entirely false (Score:5, Interesting)
Interestingly, he was brought into the court battle to testify back when Magnavox (Baer's employer) and the rest were fighting over who owned the patent on the videogame. The court found that Mr. Higinbotham invented the videogame, and that since he was an employee of the U.S. Government at the time and did it as part of his job (it was part of the annual "Visitor's Day" exhibit at the Laboratory), the idea of the videogame couldn't be patented and was owned by the public.
-Joe
Re:This is entirely false (Score:2)
Re:This is entirely false (Score:2)
As for Pong, I specifically didn't call Nolan the "creator" of Pong for exactly this reason. He did bring it, and arcade games in general, to the masses. In that way, he is arguably the father of "video games" in a sense, since he pretty much started the video game "business" which we all know and... umm... love, I guess? (sigh)
You'll also notice the articles about Nolan that I pointed to said things like: "arguably the father of computer entertainment," "'I didn't invent the video game.
Anyway, once again, I apologize for my terseness turning to a misleading statement. It's a tough line between being completely comprehensive, and being able to get something interesting actually posted on this damned site.
Say 'hi' and 'sorry' to Ralf for me!
-bill!
(wanders off in shame)
Re:This is entirely false (Score:2)
As for Pong, I specifically didn't call Nolan the "creator" of Pong for exactly this reason. He did bring it, and arcade games in general, to the masses. In that way, he is arguably the father of "video games" in a sense, since he pretty much started the video game "business" which we all know and... umm... love, I guess? (sigh)
You'll also notice the articles about Nolan that I pointed to said things like: "arguably the father of computer entertainment," "'I didn't invent the video game.
Anyway, once again, I apologize for my terseness turning to a misleading statement. It's a tough line between being completely comprehensive, and being able to get something interesting actually posted on this damned site.
Say 'hi' and 'sorry' to Ralf for me!
-bill!
(wanders off in shame)
Don't be ashamed. It's more CowboyNeal that I had my beef with. Someone above noted that with a low four-digit UID that I should be used to it. I'll never get used to bad journalism. It's not right. Though this is the first time I've ever sent a complaint email
But the articles are also indicative of a societal problem. We think the marketers of innovative products or ideas are the greatest thing since sliced bread, yet the true innovators, the scientists, get no credit.
Re:This is entirely false (Score:2)
Oh, come now! Next you'll be trying to say that RCA didn't invent the television and Marconi didn't invent the radio!
Re:This is entirely false (Score:2)
Re:This is entirely false (Score:1)
It attaches a certain responsibility for pong, that as the founder of Atari, can rightfully be attributed to him (he DID sell it...). But I don't think that statement necessarily implies that he invented it.
Re:This is entirely false (Score:2)
Sort of like how Microsoft is the bringer of the Windowing System.
They didn't invent it. They just sell it.
No innovation there.
Re:This is entirely false (Score:2)
See my post above, regarding trying to be terse. To respond directly to this, though, do you call the pizza boy (who brings you your pizza) the person who cooked it, or even invtented it?
Bushnell certainly did "bring Pong"... as in "bring it to the masses" via his company Atari.
Again, I'm sorry for being confusing... I hope you understand my points, though.
We're congratulating this guy? (Score:5, Interesting)
Bushnell has done nothing but stifle innovation through his ownership of patents. He is widely recognized as a tight-fisted licensor, charging outrageous amounts to use "his" work. If you ever wonder why video games cost so much both at home and in the arcade, look at this asshole.
Happy birthday, Bushnell.
Re:We're congratulating this guy? (Score:1)
after reading your reply, now I want to ask YOU to post a link that backs your claims, or stop FUDDING
Re:We're congratulating this guy? (Score:1)
Re:We're congratulating this guy? (Score:1)
As it has turned out, unless you reply something more than a one liner (or unless you touch my nerves) this is my last reply on this thread.
I have nothing to further discuss with you, bakarayousama.
btw, since when is use caps lock in two words on a phrase "overuse"? you just did.
And if you think im an idion, its nothing near to what i think of you and your sister (whether you have one or not) and brother , and any other close relative of yours.
I knew it! (Score:3, Funny)
I knew better.
This outrageous charge of 25 cents was in fact due to the facist arcade ruler Chairman Bushnell! How dare he drive the price of Pong and Pacman up well over the accepted industry-standard 15 cents (for those younger folk here, many games only cost you a measily 15 centes before the rebel leader Bushnell took power in the now infamous but little known arcade block wars). Once he had monopoly status from the outrageous profits reaped by the masterpiece "Cocnuts" for the Atari 2600, he proceeded to embrace and extend into other markets. For example, did you know that Whack-A-Mole was open source and only cost you 10 cents to play once? (you didn't pay for the game, but rather services rendered by Whack-A-Mole repair men)
We must prevent such atrocities from occuring again, by forcing the Bushnell empire to accept our arcade inspectors.
Really though, I doubt this guy had much to do with the iflated prices of games.
Re:I knew it! (Score:1, Informative)
There is a reason most arcades go out of business within 2 years and it isn't because they don't have enough customers. The machines cost so much that they'd have to raise their prices to a point that customers won't even come in anymore if they want to make a profit.
There used to be a lot of game rooms. Now they are few and far between. OG is right, Bushnell is the prime suspect.
Re:We're congratulating this guy? (Score:2)
My first technical job was back in 1982 at General Computer Company [gcctech.com], creators of Super Missile Attack [ionpool.net] as well as Ms. PacMan and the Atari 7800. Atari sued the guys who founded GCC because their "Super Missile Attack" was essentially a ROM replacement for Missile Command which made the game more challenging (and more profitable for arcade owners). The suit was settled with GCC agreeing to develop a bunch of games for Atari.
I don't know whether Bushnell was still at Atari when this all went down.
Something to congratulate him for (Score:3, Informative)
The points about fairness, customers, and particularly on innovation are something I wish every modern CEO or company official would take to heart, but anymore there doesn't seem to be enough genuine spirit and ideals in american corps.
Passion for Education? (Score:4, Funny)
a passion for enhancing and improving the educational process
I think Bushnell, as one of the founders of the video game industry, may be one of the people most responsible for degrading the quality students.
Paddles, we need to make the paddles smaller! (Score:1)
What about Bob? (Score:1)
NO CHUCK E CHEESE! (Score:5, Funny)
To this day I wont go near the damn place, I dont care what arcades they have...
Re:NO CHUCK E CHEESE! (Score:2, Informative)
If Marlon Brando were dead, he'd be turning in his grave. The proper quote is, "The horror. The horror." [imdb.com]
Re:NO CHUCK E CHEESE! (Score:3, Interesting)
The worst thing in that place besides the bad pizza and screaming kids, as someone else mentioned is the parody of rock music culture that goes on there.
They've got and animatronic rock band, headed by the mouse, singing cheezy remade versions of Beatles and Rolling Stones songs. There are album cover parodies on the walls. Abbey Road with 4 mice...Fleetwood Mac's Rumors with mice...The Rolling Stones Tounge coming out of a mouse's mouth.... You get the idea.
It says a lot about how cheezy Chuck E Cheeze stores really are. But I think the interesting part of the story is how these bands/songwriters allow their work to be ripped apart like that. Does Michael Jackson(who owns the beatles catalog), Mick Jagger and Mick Fleetwood need money THAT bably?
Well, at least Mick Jagger doesn't.
and he sings a masturbation song! (Score:3, Funny)
... to the tune of the classic new wave hit "Turning Japanese" by the Vapors. "Turning Japanese" was, at the time, some sort of British slang for wanking.
On the rare occasion (twice in 5 years) we've allowed our little ones to drag us to the Kingdom of the Rat, we've left fantasizing about hacking the animatronics to have Chuck E act out the original intent of the song while he sings...
Re: (Score:1)
Pong for peace! (Score:1)
here [novagate.com] or here [madblast.com] or here [silfreed.net]
My brush with greatness (Score:1, Interesting)
He liked my version, and came by my desk on a tour of our company to talk to me. But it was 8am and of course I was nowhere near work!
Therefore, I am famous! Or not, yes, upon consideration possibly "not".
So now that he's sixty... (Score:1)
Kinda reminds me of that commercial for batteries on TV where the grandfather is playing some fighting video game against his grandson and keeps losing until the grandson's battery dies, giving the old man a chance to win.
Oh Nolan, what hast thou wrought? Happy birthday, buddy.
speaking of paddles.... (Score:1)
I'd like it for pong, arkanoid, little brickout
Re:speaking of paddles.... (Score:1)
Heh, that was a cool gadget. I really don't know what to use it for, BUT I WANT IT.
Mmmmmmmm.... aluminium.
1st interactive game on a digital computer (Score:4, Informative)
Re:1st interactive game on a digital computer (Score:2)
I worked with him many years ago on the DEC-10 and haven't heard from him in 25 years. He taught me the fundamentals of data communications, among other things.
Steve was one of the original MIT hackers, who started with train hacking, moved on to phone hacking and on into computers.
Spacewar was a lot of fun, by the way. Lunar lander was played on the same box.
Re:1st interactive game on a digital computer (Score:2)
Damn, the more I learn about you, meso, the more I realize that I have a *lot* to learn *from* you (it's only too bad you don't come into the office more often and stop by to talk)...
Bushnell: father of the video games *industry* (Score:5, Informative)
et. al., who wrote the first video game, "Spacewar" on the PDP-1 at MIT in 1962.
See: http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa09019
http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/PDP-1-SpaceW
- Jim
Re:Bushnell: father of the video games *industry* (Score:2)
Let's see...
Am I keeping score correctly here?
I'm sure there are a lot of firsts that could be added to this list. But I think the point is that you had better be sure what child you're talking about before asserting paternity.
Re:Bushnell: father of the video games *industry* (Score:2)
The first interactive game was made on an oscilliscope by Higinbotham. The idea for an interactive game to be played by people at home on a TV was pong, written by Ralph Baer. Please see pong-story.com, and browse around.
Re:Bushnell: father of the video games *industry* (Score:2)
Parent:
Not quite.
The first interactive game was made on an oscilliscope by Higinbotham. The idea for an interactive game to be played by people at home on a TV was pong, written by Ralph Baer. Please see pong-story.com, and browse around.
Sorry, what did he miss? He got all the "first-timers"...
Childhood memories of Pong (Score:5, Interesting)
Now I wasn't really supposed to be in the bar at my age, but my dad would go for an evening cocktail and I would tag along and ask the bartender nicely if I could just hang out by the Pong machine. He usually relented and that was it. I had my own video game before anyone knew what they were!
What great fun that little game was to me! I got really good at it (as kids always do) and would take great delight at setting the paddles just right so the ball would bounce back and forth endlessly. Then I would stand back and admire the way I found just the right touch to beat the alogrithm. It was also fun to see the reaction of adults when they noticed that the game with no one in front of it was in an endless loop on its own. Then I would go back, nudge a paddle, and off we went.
Thank you Nolan Bushnell. You made my summer memorable for more than just the beach and the sun. You opened my eyes to the power of electronics. A career as a programmer later followed.
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Ah ... Coin-Op Pong (Score:5, Interesting)
This particular Pong machine had a quirk - if you gave it a mild electrical shock to the changer it would give you a credit to play. A static charge did the job nicely.
So there we were - me and my little brother and other kids zipping up and down the carpeted halls of the hotel in our socks, zapping the Pong machine and playing for hours, with one of us always on the lookout to make sure no one from the hotel saw what we were doing. Even back then I was a larcenous little fsck, trying to Scam The System and get stuff for free.
Re:Ah ... Coin-Op Pong (Score:2)
Eh, try this [coinop.org] for a laugh with MAME. 1983 with 1981 hardware. It was fun. (We got to try out all the latest games for free as research.) Multitasking object oriented assember, hmm.
Re:Ah ... Coin-Op Pong (Score:2)
(For context, this was one of those NBA Jam machines where there was the big screen, three foot gap, then the "unit" which was wide and narrow with coin slots in the front and 4 joysticks on the top, IIRC)
And we revere this guy... why? (Score:2)
Read the metroactive [metroactive.com]article -- it's the most fair. By his own admission, he didn't invent videogames, he commercialized them.
At best, Nolan Bushnell is a one hit wonder who stumbled upon an industry that would have flourished with or without him. Trip Hawkins founded EA, let's celebrate his birthday instead.
Re:And we revere this guy... why? (Score:3, Informative)
Not quite... (Score:2)
You know the "Bringer," now know the "Engineer" (Score:2, Informative)
Early Chuck E. Cheese Animatronics (Score:3, Interesting)
I don't think any of the Chuck E. Cheese's out there have them any more, but in the early days of the restaurant, when they were still the Pizza Time Theater, every Chuck E. Cheese had animatronic animals (including Chuck E. Cheese himself) scattered throughout the arcade area. Additionally, every half hour or so, a bunch of animatronics would put on a stage show (thus the Pizza Time Theater part of the name). IIRC, the animatronics were powered by DEC PDP-11s.
On a related note, but offtopic note, the Chuck E. Cheese closest to me when I was a kid was in Utica, NY in the newly opened Sangertown Square mall. It made for some interesting headlines when one night, the entire restaurant, big hulking animatronics, tables, pizza ovens and all, just disappeared out of the mall. Literally, one night after the mall closed, without any prior mention of it and without anyone seeing it happen, a truck must have backed up to the entrance nearest the restaurant and moved out everything right down to the fixtures, leaving nothing but a bare mall shell store for management to discover the next day. I never heard anything else about it either.
This is perhaps one of my wierdest memories from childhood, and an especially disappointing one. You see, as a nascent geek who was busily working themselves through the Radio Shack 300 in 1 Electronics kit (the really cool one in the wooden base!) and was just getting into programming my Timex-Sinclair 1000, I found the animatronics utterly fascinating. My fast-food loving '80s kid side found the pizza irrestible (and even as I remember it I'm pretty sure it actually did taste really good). I would have killed to have lived close enough to the mall to go every few days, but alas I lived 50 miles away in the sticks.
So between Chuck E. Cheese, and Atari, I can honestly say that Nolan Bushnell has had a tremendous impact on my life. I'd love to have a party for him at one of the original Pizza Time Theaters, but seeing as how they don't exist anymore, I'll just say "Happy Birthday Nolan! Thanks for the cool toys!"
Re:Early Chuck E. Cheese Animatronics (Score:2, Interesting)
PDP 11/23's to be exact.
Happy Birthday, Sir (Score:2, Funny)
Not really worthy of celebrating. (Score:3, Insightful)
I worked with him for a couple of years. Charming guy when he wants to be, but I didn't see any indications of genius or even an instinct for a good idea. I'd have to say he was just in the right place (backed by family money, IIRC) at the right time -- once.
His behavior with attractive women was also reprehensible, at least when he thought there were no witnesses.
I suppose he deserves some credit, but really, even at the time, video games were considered inevitable, he maybe got them to people at most a year or two earlier than they might have arrived otherwise.
Umm, not to sound critical but. . . (Score:2, Insightful)
I mean it seems logical to me that we talk about him turning 60 when he turns 60. I just don't know why this story made it in today when it wasn't a slow news day at all.
-> Fritz
Re:Umm, not to sound critical but. . . (Score:2)
Bushnell: "Ideas are Shit" (Score:2)
I don't remember anything he said during lunch, but I do remember that he was 30 minutes late and stayed and hour past the scheduled end time.
From the lecture, I remember two things. One was he wanted to build a high-speed underground traind from New York to Los Angeles... okay three, things, I just rememberd that he also wanted to build Minority-Report-sytle freeways that take control of your car because "we don't mind our own dirt, but we don't like other people's dirt" and the other (third) thing was the simple quote "ideas are shit" in reference to secret business plans and stealth mode when creating a startup. His point was that everything is in the execution.
Bushnell's Lion & Compass Restaurant (Score:2)
And it was an amazing contrast to Chuck E. Cheese, which is pure evil, in the Disneyland-plus-bad-pizza variety.
Re:Bah! (Score:3, Insightful)
Nolan Bushnell is the father of video games for the same reason that Ford is famous -- for bringing something of such magnitude to the masses. Bringing it to the masses, not INVENTING it (they're not the same; see the earlier posts if you don't agree).
Also, I seriously doubt that, like so many other inventions, Ralph Baer was the ONLY one who thought of this idea or made a video game -- he's just one of the guys who got the recognition (and, to be honest, I never heard of the guy, so he doesn't get much recognition). Unless you actually think that only one person can be blessed with a revolutionary idea -- that would be ludicrous.