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The Top 25 Squaresoft Games Ever? 56

Posted by simoniker from the where's-chocobo-racing? dept.
darknight17 writes "The unofficial Final Fantasy Online site has just finally finished its Top 25 Squaresoft games by featuring the Top 5 titles. Here are the other picks - 25 to 21, 20 to 16, 15 to 11, and 10 to 6, as chosen by fans in the Final Fantasy and RPG community." There's also a 'hidden gems' section in each part of the countdown, highlighting overlooked titles like Einhänder and Bahamut Lagoon - neat.
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  • FF8 was awful. FF8 made me swear off the FF franchise. OK, maybe I'm being a little melodramatic, but seriously after trudging through disc 1 and only half of disc 2, I couldn't even finish FF8. It was boring, I didn't like any of the characters, and the battle system was sooooo 1997. :-) I just didn't have the energy to try 9 (I hear it's great) or X. Sorry, but FF8 sucked and was the last "fantasy" I bought.

    psxndc

    • Yeah, FF8 sure did suck. I spent more time playing the stupid card game instead of fighting. I just got so bored drawing magic all of the time. When I stopped playing the card game, I forgot where I was on the 2nd disk and gave up. Today's games are so boring to me. They are all about graphics and less emphasis is placed on the story and the connection you feel with the characters. I loved the music in FF6 (3 in the US) when Locke visits Rachel's hometown and remembers her death. And you definitely can't be

      • Re:FF8 was #4???? (Score:3, Interesting)

        by psxndc ( 105904 )
        And you definitely can't beat the Polom and Parom in FF2 (US version) when they turned themselves into stone to prevent the walls from closing in on them

        Yes. Yes, yes, yes! This is exactly what FF8 didn't have. When that happened I was like "What?? What are they doing? Nooooooo!" Maybe it's because I was younger and naive. Maybe it really was better writing. But I had no attachment to any of the characters in 8. I spent half the time just wishing Leon or whatever his name was wasn't such a douche. Granted

    • FF8 was awful. FF8 made me swear off the FF franchise.

      FF8 was the first one I played and I thought it was the best of the PSX releases. Yes, I know this is an unpopular opinion: "FF8 better than FF7? You must be mad!"

    • I'm sorry, it's Monday and I couldn't resist.

  • For the record... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Flamerule ( 467257 ) on Sunday May 11, 2003 @02:04AM (#5929598)
    Their top 10 are...
    • 010: Final Fantasy X
    • 009: Chrono Cross
    • 008: Final Fantasy Tactics
    • 007: Xenogears
    • 006: Final Fantasy IV
    • 005: Final Fantasy IX
    • 004: Final Fantasy VIII
    • 003: Chrono Trigger
    • 002: Final Fantasy VII
    • 001: Final Fantasy VI
    ... and I agree, at least with what I'm familiar with. Sadly, of all the games in the top 25, I've only played SoM, FF IV, Chrono Trigger, and FF VI. However, when I feel like making a list, I always rank FF VI near the top of my heap of favorite console games, so I'm glad to see them give it first place.

    It's just unbelievable how that game transcends its 16-bit Super NES sound and sprite graphics. It's epic, in so many ways -- a fantastic plot, with fantastically deep/moving/cool characters, and ridiculously memorable music. I remember thinking Kefka's theme was so kickass, I'd pick it out on our piano. I can still hum a boatload of songs from that game. I also liked how the entire game was stuffed with stuff to do; I'm sure I spent 60 hours or more every time I played through it. And the ending! More than 20 minutes of glorious reward at the end of that amazing battle against the statues and Kefka, with screen time given to every character. Certainly the best ending to anything I played on SNES. Actually, I'd be hard-pressed to find a better ending to any game, on console or PC.

    Chrono Trigger and FF IV are the shit too, of course. And from everything I've heard, FF VII really whips the llama's ass as well; I think I'll finally get off my lazy ass and play it through sometime this summer.

    • SoM was far better and weren't SoM and FF6 released around the same time?

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      by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Sunday May 11, 2003 @01:21PM (#5931635)
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    • FF6 is on top of my list too, but... I am surprised FF8 is even on the list, it simply sucks. The plot is so out of focus, and lacks character development. The gameplay is tedious and boring, especially for the weird battle system. You can't learn magic (you have to draw magic from enemies), you can't earn money (instead you get salary but you won't use the money anyway coz there is no weapon/armor to buy). And there is no use to level up (as the enemies will level up too).
    • I must have had this argument a million times with my friends. FF6 v. Chrono Trigger v. FF7 -- any one of these could be considered among the greatest games of all time, depending on your preferences in RPGs.

      If you prefer the classic good against evil type with strong character development, FF6 is for you. Fans of interactive endings and non-linear game play lean towards Chrono Trigger. FF7 is typically preferred by gamers who crave dark story lines where the good guys don't always win.

      Personally, I

    • I can still hum a boatload of songs from that game

      Darn right! Remember this:

      "Oh my hero/so far away now/will I ever see your face? When light fades away/from night into day..."

      Or so I remember. Correct me if I'm wrong. It HAS been a while.

      Personally, though, I enjoyed the ending to Zelda: A Link to the Past the most of any game ending (ever). You just can't beat that. I'm sorry.

  • blah. (Score:1)

    by pb ( 1020 )
    Final Fantasy I was number 15, and Final Fantasy V was number 12? But those were my favorites! They should have asked more people who actually *played* some of these games, and not just the last three or so... :)

  • Wake up Crono... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Reverend Raven ( 135361 ) <revraven@gmail.com> on Sunday May 11, 2003 @04:01AM (#5929918) Homepage
    I love Final Fantasy IV (the last good FF game far as I'm concerned), but it's all about Chrono Trigger.

    A huge and indepth story with something like 14 different endings, tons of replayability, cool and memorable characters (epecially that chatterbox Crono), loads of subplots and sidequests..and excellent music. It's the absolute best 2D RPG, and quite possibly the greatest console RPG of all time.

    I mean I was actually sad when the game was over. I mean, it was over. Done, no more. That Xmas of 1995 (released during the summer I know but I never played it until Xmas) was such a happy and fun time. And there was never to be a sequel. Ever. Never ever ever not even if you give us money and beg us.

    Then they made Chrono Cross, which was a disgrace to all that made Chrono Trigger good. Atleast the pre-order clock was really cool (and fitting, if you leave the clock hands reading 10:04)
  • FF VII was great--until I got out of Midgar and hit the stupid Chocobo sequence. Shortly after that I abandoned the game.

    Parasite Eve, on the other hand--that was consistently great all the way through. Deserves to be in the top 10.

  • Is it just me? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Snowspinner ( 627098 ) <philsand@3.14ufl.edu minus pi> on Sunday May 11, 2003 @09:03AM (#5930556) Homepage
    At the risk of being flamebait or troll, am I the only person who thinks that "The best Squaresoft games" (When talking about RPGs in particular) is rather like talking about "The best war crimes" or "The best Microsoft products"? With the exception of Chrono Trigger (And possibly Cross. I might play it this summer, if I have time), I find their RPGs almost across the board to feature boring combat mechanics, excessive numbers of random encounters, hackneyed plots, and generally little to reccomend them.

    And I don't mean to troll the whole company. I did genuinely enjoy Chrono Trigger, what with its totally avoidable random encounters. And Final Fantasy I was nice, in that it was largely Dragon Warrior with a party. I still need to check out Tactics, and Crystal Chronicles gives me hope, but FF IV-X just totally missed me. I did not enjoy playing one of them. And I kept trying, because everyone insisted to me that Square was the most brilliant company ever.

    Nope.

    Just don't get it.

    Why aren't there any lists of the top 25 Enix games? Now that'd be interesting.
    • Why aren't there any lists of the top 25 Enix games? Now that'd be interesting.

      It probably has something to do with exposure. For the youngin's whose memory only goes back as far as the PS1, FFVII is "old school." I recall once hearing a kid looking at the DQVII case say "Huh? How is this the seventh? I didn't hear about any others..."

      It was sad, really.

  • While it is good to see FFTactics up in the top 10, I think it should rate much higher than it does.

    It seems to me that the more modern FF series were all pretty boring and similar. Yes, the plots are different, but it's still "kill guys in random encounters to level yourself and get yummies, watch an hour of CG footage that you can't get out of, fight big boss battle, repeat" Granted, that is most of the RPG genre, but it seems Square's system tends to be a bit more monotonous than most.

    FF2 [Jap] gave us
  • The only thing on his list that is right is that ff6 is top 5, but I would say (IMO and what I hear most ppl say) ff7 , is like 10 , ffx is 2, (not 10)chrono trigger is 1 chrono cross and ff9 are tied 4, and I would put ff6 at 3, I could do more but this is just me venting, at their mistake Swift
  • I was pretty impressed by the list these guys made up. Seemed like a few were out of place, but had it pretty well done for the most part. What most people don't understand about FF6 being #1 was what it did to the time. It brought so many new things, and this was all way back when. Getting to change your party to what you want, and customize the abilities you wanted to use, and the Esper system to increase certain important stats(Come on, I'm not the only one who strapped Locke with the Speed plus Esper a
  • Rad Racer not in the top 25?? I mean, c'mon, it had full-on-3D. It was so ahead of it's time!

    This list is obviously skewed towards RPGs, which is a shame as Square has a few quality non-RPG games. To have Einhander not listed is a scam (though they do mention it as a "hidden gem"); Bushido Blade should be rated higher; and where the hell is Tobal No.1 ?
  • I personally did not agree with the list that this game site provided. Not due to personal opinion of the games themselves as such (although this probably didn't help in my overall dissatsifaction with the list) but because of what the games themselves are and what they stand for.
    VI was a landmark game, a breakthrough! It was inspired. It done so many new things, and above all else was so playable. I agree with this coming first!
    VII just oodled atmosphere, and VIII was dangerous in it's departure from

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