Gaming Site Reviews.. Real Life? 529
jbp8 writes: "There's an article on GameSpot reviewing the ultimate MMOG - real life!" The article gives real life an Editor's Choice award, focusing on issues such as leveling up ("Typically, a character will learn of the numerous viable career paths available by undergoing schooling. This can be a long and tedious process, equivalent to the sort of 'level treadmill' monotony that characterizes almost all MMORPGs") and player death ("..a serious issue in real life, and cause for continued debate among players, who often direct unanswerable questions on the subject to the game's developers.")
Damn ... ! (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:I agree. (Score:2)
I dont know about you, but real life is repetitive and boring most of the time.
Then YOU need The Machiavellian's Guide to Womanizing [amazon.com]
Re:I agree. (Score:5, Funny)
Can I have the remaining time on your Real Life account, then?
Re:I agree. (Score:2)
I dont know about you, but real life is repetitive and boring most of the time.
You're always free to hit the reset button, Saddy McSad.
Re:I agree. (Score:3, Insightful)
Thats not a reset, thats game over.
I dont lose, I win.
Re:I agree. (Score:5, Funny)
I'll put it this way: There may be other games that let you have sex, but the feedback is sooooo much better in "Real Life".
Enjoy!
Re:I agree. (Score:3, Funny)
Is this 'sex' quest kind of like the Jedi quest in Star Wars: Galaxies? No guarantee you'll get to attempt the quest, and odds of about 1-1000 of succeeding? Eh, maybe I can wait till someone just sells their woman on EBay
Re:I agree. (Score:5, Insightful)
Life is as intersting as you care to make it. Get off your butt and do something.
A few things I do, to make life more interesting:
Most people have to work, but that still leaves lots of time to pursue many intersting real life intersts.
Re:Who says any of that is fun? (Score:3)
Hate to have to tell you this, but if you think life is boring, it's actually because YOU are a boring person
Real Life is not a very fun game. (Score:5, Insightful)
Real life is about hard work, its about survival, its about solving problems, its about paying your bills on time, taking care of responsiblities, doing things you dont want to do because they must be done.
That is real life, it certain isnt a game,and its not fun. If I had a choice I'd choose to live in some of these game worlds over this one.
Oh, and you only get one chance, so real life is stressful as hell. Failure is not an option.
Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. (Score:5, Insightful)
Is this because most people are skeptical about what happens after they quit the game or because they're enjoying it too much? Even though it isn't "very fun"?
I think I speak for many of us when I say: "Life is good."
Its a game no one can afford to stop playing. (Score:2)
Unlike in Video Games, you don't have a choice but to play this one. There's no guarenteed out, if this is all there is, and there is no way out then you cant stop playing.
I dont think you can say life is good for the majority of the 6 billion people. For a very rich and successful person in America, yeah life can be good.
Still doesnt change the fact that even if you are successful you didnt start off that way, Life has to be bad before it can become good.
Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. (Score:5, Funny)
Mm, I don't know. I'd feel better about it if I could figure out how to restore from a saved version.
Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. (Score:5, Funny)
I am not making this up (Score:4, Funny)
Re:I am not making this up (Score:3, Interesting)
Life isnt about loving or hating it, its about what you accomplish in the time you have to experience it.
So you dont like life? Invest your life in a useful way which benefits the world.
So you like life? Invest your life in a way which benefits the world.
If you are useful it doesnt matter if you like life or not, you still accomplish your mission and are successful at whatever you decide to do with yourself.
Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. (Score:5, Funny)
It seems to me that most people who want to quit eventually just get so frustrated by this sort of run-around that they eventually just give up and keep playing.
Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. (Score:2)
To quote Pvt. Joker (Score:5, Funny)
Re:To quote Pvt. Joker (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. (Score:3, Troll)
Us 6B people were forced into this situation. No one asked us if we wanted to live the existence we would potentially live before we were born. Once we're born, though, most of us are forced to continue living. Most of us don't have complete control over our behavior, and self-sustaina
Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. (Score:3, Insightful)
At least this world is fairly reasonable and you can figure out some of it after a few years.
Im not so sure failure is no an option. Im not suicidal but if you really think this world is no good you CAN
Games are fun because you can lose ! (Score:3, Interesting)
Life is not fun because you arent allowed to lose.
You don't pay your bills and you'll be a homeless bum. You live in the woods and you can get killed by animals or diseases, like I said you cannot afford to lose in this game because you only get ONE life.
At least this world is fairly reasonable and you can figure out some of it after a few years.
Its taken me my whole lifetime to figure this world out and I still cannot say I have it completely figured. Please share your wisdom with the masses.
Im not
Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. (Score:5, Funny)
You know I never really liked paying bills, I don't think I'm going to do that any more.
Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. (Score:2)
Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. (Score:5, Insightful)
"Hard" work makes you less lazy. Being lazy, laying on a couch, watching TV all day, eating grapes, is not "fun" either. Doing only "fun" things, will make them boring. There needs to be a balance. Consider this: If you were never bored, how would you know you just had fun? An opposite CANNOT exist without the other.
Then again, work is what you make it. The more you resist it, the less fun you will get out of it. Not because the work itself is bad, but because YOU RESIST!! You are being fooled by your own feelings. The work in itself is not bad, just as the icecream is not happiness itself. The thought of eating an icecream, makes happiness rise in you. It's already in you, you don't really need the icecream.. With the right attitude and knowledge, any work can become positive and rewarding. If not, maybe it's time to change?
I recommend yoga, auyrveda, meditation or just a good walk in the woods. You'll get a new perspective on life.
Life is what you make it. It may sound cliche, but that's because people just say it, they don't live it. Then the words mean nothing and are lifeless. Live it and see for yourself.
Perhaps you're just not very good at playing it? (Score:3)
The probability is that it isn't life that has the problem - it's you.
If you think what you have is 'hard work' then you're just spoilt. I *know* I have it easy compared to at least 5 billion of the world's population. I know I have it easy compared to 99% of the world's population prior to 1950. Since you have access to a computer, it's likely the same applies to you as well. There are many,
Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. (Score:2)
(SSI because I have a mental illness)
-uso.
Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. (Score:5, Funny)
If it works on my PC, then maybe.... (Score:4, Funny)
glittering prizes
glittering prizes
glittering prizes
Crap! Why isn't this working?
Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. (Score:3, Insightful)
You should compare your life an Israeli, Iraqi, or Burma before whining that "life is hard". Most of here at slashdot have it very good.
Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. (Score:5, Insightful)
Specifically you only get one chance? You know this how? Lots of religions belive in re-encarnation, which many embody the meaning of more chances. A lot of religions believe not only in re-encarnation but rather as a means to have a second chance at life, to do what you are suppose to do. If you succeed in doing what you are suppose to do, then you go to your religions "heaven".
I try never to speak in absolutes, so I highly doubt anyone has continued to re-encarnate and remember their previous life fully. Thats the difference between the real world and a game world. Sure you can die in both, but only in the game world can you learn from your mistakes and apply them to your second new life. Even if re-encarnation is true, its a clean slate and you don't remember what happened before.
Of course socieity in a way fills this gap through historical records allowing you to study others mistakes and learn from them. Thats what allows our race to grow through the centuries as opposed to doing the same thing, every generation, over and over like the rest of the animal kingdom. No other animal on earth can record and aggregate experiences like humans and continue to pass it down. I'm often saddened when I think of the Dark Ages, roughly 500 years of technological evolution halting with our own will. Had the Dark Ages never occured, we'd more than likely living in a world very much like that of Star Trek or various other Science Fiction stories. 500 years is a lot of time, over 10 generations.. Imagine 10 generations ago, then apply Moores law and fast forward another 10 generations.
That has to be by far something I wish was possible, and who knows, where-ever I go when I die I may be able to see mankind evolve in the future. Watching from above somewhere. Then again, its a very real possiblity that when I die, that's it. There's no soul, no spirit, nothing that continues on. My existance is merely the sum of all the cells in my body and an electrical current that runs through it, my only purpose on this earth to procreate and then die.
Scary thought.
Cool, Life is a game, so... (Score:4, Funny)
ask Martha Stewart. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Cool, Life is a game, so... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Cool, Life is a game, so... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Cool, Life is a game, so... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Cool, Life is a game, so... (Score:2, Funny)
the "real world" (Score:2, Insightful)
Buy a bigger gun. (Score:2)
Money buys gun. Money = Power.
When someone pulls out a gun, pull out a bigger one.
Re:Buy a bigger gun. (Score:2, Insightful)
Money buys robber drugs
Robber OD's
Money == Death
Re:Buy a bigger gun. (Score:2)
Thats when you buy new laws to make guns illegal.
The admins (Score:5, Funny)
Every time I try to PK or steal.. they are on my tail.. can't get away with ANYTHING! Maybe i'm just bad at it.
Re:The admins (Score:5, Funny)
Agreed. Wish they'd hurry up with the patch though.
Promised bugfixes, balance adjustments and playability enhancements in Real Life 1.01:
Anything I missed? I'm also looking forward to the new Spaceflight/Posthumanist expansion. Should be out around the same time as Duke Nukem Forever and the Diablo II 1.10.
YLFIRe:The admins (Score:3, Insightful)
Heh - Real LIFE? (Score:5, Interesting)
The realism I find amazing - it looks very much like real life. (but I sure wish real life came with a Paint-n-Spray!)
Anyway, I was bike-riding with my 14 Y.O. son (yes, I'm that old) and I saw a neon "Open" sign out of the corner of my eye. And the pinkish-red color was just like the color on the bright, moving icons for health found in Vice City.
And the thought crossed my mind as I rode along - "Get health?" followed by the immediate "D'oh! - real life, move on" thought...
I don't wonder within a few years psychologists officially recognize a mental disorder of "Video Game/Reality dissociation" or something...
(Notice above, I said "in Vice City" as though it was a place and you didn't even notice!)
Re:Heh - Real LIFE? (Score:5, Informative)
I agree with you. I have played a lot of Vice City since I got it last christmas. I just started driving, and sometimes when I see pedestrians walking beside the road, I'll get an urge to run them over, hop out of the car, and pick up their money.
Re:Heh - Real LIFE? (Score:2)
That should be Luckily I haven't indulged any of these urges yet
I guess I should pay closer attention to what I type before I submit.
Re:Heh - Real LIFE? (Score:2)
Problem with Real Life (TM)... (Score:5, Funny)
-Jack Ash
Re:Problem with Real Life (TM)... (Score:5, Funny)
Life is pretty disappointing. (Score:4, Funny)
So... (Score:2, Insightful)
Real life? I like it. (Score:2)
Can an actual MMORPG simulate real life? (Score:5, Insightful)
For many players of games (my roommate included), online gaming is pretty much their entire life. I recently calculated that my roommate has played Everquest for 5 hours a day (on average) for the past two years.
Since he has virtually no social life, never has people over, and doesn't belong to any organization outside of work, one could assume that he is incredibly lonely, yet he doesn't seem so.
To what extent can an online game substitute for real human interaction? To borrow an idea from the Sims, can an almost entirely online social experience fill up the Social Meter?
Re:Can an actual MMORPG simulate real life? (Score:5, Funny)
Are you a writer for Sex and the City?
It *is* real human interaction (Score:5, Insightful)
The majority of the time you are interacting with real human beings. What else would we be interacting with: dogs, apes, squirrels?
When people come accross someone who can find enjoyment in life without the hassles of looks, body weight, body fluids, the horrible effects of aging, they are jealous.
These are all things that normal people worry about, and when they don't understand how a gamer can be so happy in life and not worry about these things, they have to find something wrong with that person; they have to call them a gimp or a failure, a freak and a loser.
Online human interaction can be more fulfilling than "real world" human interaction, if it is done in a structured environment with interesting tasks and many solutions.
And no, it isn't only more fulfilling for those who are "socially inept". It is more fulfilling for anyone; where what matters is your intellect and your creativity.
When you say that a gamer is "socially inept", what you are saying is that they are poor at playing the game you want them to play; they may not even want to play it. Yet, you taunt and jeer them because you can not understand why they are so happy.
What are they so happy? They have every reason to be very very happy, and these are good reasons. They are successful at what they want to do. They have many aquaintences who they go on grand adventures with. Now only this, but they are able to give so greatly to others. You can make someone's day -- a real human being -- by your "in game" actions. You can make them smile; you can make them feel loved; love in the sense of brothers and sisters; the love of a companion: male or female does not matter.
And it is not a false sense of love. It is love that is as real as the love of your mother and your father for you, and you for your brother and your sister and your fellow man and fellow woman. It is love between real people, and it really matters. It is real.
Yes, if a gamer has obligations to a spouse or children, or to paying the bills, then it is wrong for the gamer to ignore these obligations, or to treat them with disdain. These are obligations, the results of choices you have made, and you must live with them.
But for those of us who are not yet so obligated, there is no reason why we should bind ourselves to this dying and decrepit world. There is no reason why we should be what society wants us to be, or what the people who are hip and fashionable and popular want us to be.
When we can interact with real human beings and when we care about others as brothers and sisters, and treat them with the love and respect that they are due simply in virtue of being persons, we do a great thing.
No one can take this away from us. No one can tell us that what we do does not matter, or is not real.
No, we may not be helping to eliminate hunger in Africa by playing this game, but what the fuck have you done to eliminate hunger in Africa? You haven't done a damned thing.
I can make someone's day. I treat others with the utmost respect. I can make them happy. I can make them laugh. I can make them feel loved. I can make them feel worthwhile. I can comfort them when they are down. I can help them up when they are in bad times. And they do these things for me.
This is what matters; helping real people, and helping them in tangible, real ways.
Yes, criticize me for not giving money to staving children in Africa, but first, tell me, just tell me, is what you have done in this world so much greater than what I have done? Have you comforted and inspired so many people? Have you loved them as human beings? What the fuck have you done for Africa? You do what you do for yourself.
It is as real as anything else in this world; the perceptions are as real; the emotions are as real. The people are real.
Why won't you let us be happy? We give you our bodies for 40 hours a week. What won't you let us live?
For the love of God, why won't you let us LIVE?
Re:It *is* real human interaction (Score:5, Interesting)
Online socializing has never been "real" to me. I was on 300bps dialup BBS systems back in the early 80's, and I've done a lot of online messaging over the years and met quite a few people that way (BBS parties and some online dating). To me, people are completely different online versus real life. Some people intentionally misrepresent themselves (as in the classic guy-impersonating-a-horny-teenage-girl), but even those who are trying to present their true selves are altered by the sense of anonymity or the lack of body language and other instant feedback. "LOL" just doesn't get the whole message accross.
When I tried online dating I never felt like I knew anything about the girl until I met her. To me it was like two different people (appearance description jokes aside). Someone who was appealing in email was frequently unappealing personalitywise in person.
I had an email penpal female friend for a couple of years. We confided a lot in each other, using each other as a safe way to get the perspective of the opposite sex and helping each other through insecurities and perplexing actions by our dates. Even though I shared things with her that I haven't shared with others, I still don't feel like I know her. It's entirely possible that we wouldn't be able to stand each other in person. I really appreciated her help and vice versa, but it never felt like a real life friendship to either of us. I wouldn't have considered letting her stay at my place or borrow my car if she had been into town on business, for example. A real life female would be offered the use of my place and car, assuming I trusted her.
I do get some social enjoyment out of online situations. I laugh at myself about it. Slashdot, for example. I enjoy being modded up, and I take it a bit personally sometimes. I like when people reply positively or thoughtfully. But it's still very different from real interaction.
By the way, I never take game interaction seriously, but the only MMOG game I played was WWII Online which didn't lend itself to role playing or extended socialization. Way back in the BBS days there were some MUD-like games, but I didn't take those seriously, either.
The anonymity and privacy online does help in some cases, though. I'm a fat white guy with a very sloppy apartment, but you can't tell that by reading most of what I type. And I judge other
On the other hand, with instant messaging today, slow typers might be judged poorly when they're slow to respond and/or mispell things (too slow to correct everything) or use poor capitalization or grammar (again because they're trying not to be too slow).
Re:It *is* real human interaction (Score:3, Interesting)
Shoot- I can't find the link, but last week from obscurestore.com a 28 year old man did JUST THAT- fooled people into thinking he was a confused teenage girl, and they gave him/her a place to stay!
But that is not the norm.
Given that potential obfuscation is soo high on-line, I think people are either a little warier because of it, or don't care as much since they assume everyone is lying about somet
Re:It *is* real human interaction (Score:3, Interesting)
Although virtual worlds exist that allow us to escape the mundanity of this "dying and decrepit world" for a time, those who choose to value escapism more than this existence will ultimately find themselves with access to neither anyways. And nobody ever left this world regretting that they hadn't spent more time playi
Rating of 9.6 (Score:2)
Or he's rich. (Score:2)
I hear once you get a certain amount of money, you get to spend your life on vacations while occassionally logging into a website and writing editorials like this.
Yeah? On what planet does this game take place? (Score:5, Insightful)
Sounds like this game reviewer hasn't explored this game enough.
Re:Yeah? On what planet does this game take place? (Score:5, Insightful)
Obviously the reviewer knows of the negative social effects of race, that's what "standing with certain factions" refers to.
By gameplay, he means the game mechanics; how the game works excluding social interactions. And race has little bearing on those. Differences are there, but most of the time they aren't very noticeable.
Actually, he's being sarcastic, not trolling. (Score:4, Insightful)
Racism falls under "your standing with certain factions," which the article clearly references. It is saying that your race does not affect your characters abilities, but it will affect other people's attitudes towards you. Which sounds like a pretty apt, non-trolly, non-racist viewpoint.
"Try being more subtle"? I think he was already too subtle for you...
addicted? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:addicted? (Score:4, Funny)
Playing Real Life right now (Score:2, Funny)
Forgot the most rewarding feature: Sex! (Score:3, Insightful)
Seriously, as a maried parent (yes, I still game occasionally), I like this part of 'real life' the best. My five year old son just wandered in and asked me what 'random' meant. I'll make a gamer out of him yet... But at any rate, it does have chores associated with it. Time to stop posting AC on slashdot and go read the kids a story...
It just ruined it... (Score:4, Funny)
I've been building a business... (Score:4, Insightful)
Abstracting life like a game can actually be helpful, since trying to distill the "rules" and come up with ways to cheat them, circumvent them or efficiently obey them can be a fun and rewarding challenge.
IP stupidity in the next article! (Score:2, Insightful)
truth in avatars (Score:3, Funny)
Additional servers are waiting for us! (Score:3, Funny)
Some players [marssociety.org] insist that additional servers already exist, and that it is the players' responsibility to explore and "settle" them in order to guard against catastrophe and ensure that there are sufficient resources for new players. Skeptics point to extreme lag between the existing server and the suggested new host: ping times are measured in minutes, and player transfer could take months.
Am I the only one who thought... (Score:2)
The real problem with real life (Score:2, Funny)
-a
Patch? (Score:3, Funny)
I quite enjoy these sub-games - is this a legitimate memory issue that will be addressed in a patch, or should I be upgrading my system?
Re:Patch? (Score:2, Funny)
1 - Have your character consume "Coffee", many have reported the effects of the alcohol game to be less severe
2 - Play the game more often. Yes this may sound silly at first, but the routine for processing the alcohol seems to be more efficient when your character improves at colume consumption.
cheats (Score:2, Funny)
Too Much Like The Sims (Score:4, Funny)
Still, I'm somewhat addicted to the game, and not looking to stop any time soon.
It can be boring at times but... (Score:2)
Eck this one's no fun (Score:2)
Reminds me of a few lines from the movie Existenz (Score:4, Funny)
Allegra: "That sounds like my game all right."
Ted: "That sounds like a game that's not going to be easy to market"
Allegra: "But it's a game everybody's already playing."
America mod only (Score:2, Insightful)
Yeah, I've played that game... (Score:3, Funny)
Quick release (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Quick release (Score:3, Funny)
Exactly - it was rushed and that's why there's so many bugs. Unfortunately, fixing the bugs would break compatibility with the current version of real life. The last time the creator tried it, he got an overflow error, lost all his work and had to start over from scratch.
Think Different (Score:5, Funny)
It devoured my world.
It was a really good world.
Then I had to create it again and I had to do it fast and it wasn't as good.
It was kinda, a bummer.
I'm God and I'm a deity.
Character Creation (Score:5, Funny)
This was generally a good review. Unfortunately, the reviewer completely failed to explain the finer points of character creation.
A unique feature of real life is that, while players cannot choose their own character attributes, new players can enter the game only when their characters have been created by players already online. The mechanic is that two players of opposite gender and appropriate age and alignment combine their attributes randomly to create a new PC. This mechanic makes the gender attribute more than superficially significant: much of game play, including many socials, are gender-specific.
The newly-created avatar actually encumbers the female "mother" character for 9 months, after which it typically spends time as essentially an item in the mother's inventory. Character creation is normally part of the "parenting" system referred to in the review, although it is not uncommon for characters other than the creators to parent the newbies.
Many players of real life find character creation among the most enjoyable aspects of the game. There is a practice-only option for character creation: in fact, practice character creation is itself one of the most popular activities in real life, and is discussed endlessly in-game.
Some character classes in real life, for example, the "nerd" class, are usually nominally male, but essentially genderless from the gaming POV. Perhaps the reviewer's character is a nerd: if so, I'd encourage use of the in-game training and character mods to develop some character creation skills. I think the reviewer might be surprised by how much fun they can be.
Re:Character Creation (Score:3, Funny)
It's worth noting that the admins get upset if you drop this item. Also, although its worth is very high, the admins will visit if you try to sell it.
Nethack (Score:5, Funny)
Please tell me you're kidding. (Score:3, Insightful)
not balanced (Score:4, Funny)
Chaotic characters only have the SCUD Missile which has a -1 to hit and only 3d6 damage.
Lawful characters can enchant the Thermonuclear Bomb up to +6 when it becomes a Hydrogen Bomb which does 8d10 shock damage but less radiation damage. SCUD Missiles cannot be enchanted but instead lose -1 to hit for every year left in the desert.
Not fair i'm telling you.
Re:Can you BAZOOKA Bin Laden in real life ???? (Score:2)
Don't become a racist just because Bin Laden lives in a cave with monkeys.
He's still human even if he's ignorant.
Re:The problem with real life (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Life? (Score:3, Insightful)
is avoiding "real life". So, what about sitting
in front of the television? What about lying on
your bed listening to Eminem? Do those alternatives
qualify as "enjoying real life" to you? Apparently,
going outside is a crucial element for you to judge
a certain activity as "enjoying real life". What
if a person spends three hours at a Britney Spears concert?
What if a person spends three hours "going out", i.e.,
hitting clubs, trying to "score" (either sexually
Re:Buddhism (Score:2, Funny)