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The State of the Game Console Wars 439

An anonymous reader writes "Two years after the next-gen game consoles hit the market, the verdict is in. What does the future hold for each of the Big Three? Here is a thoughtful but crude summary of the X-Box vs. GC vs. PS2 ordeal."
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The State of the Game Console Wars

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  • Re:Worst. War. Ever. (Score:5, Informative)

    by edwdig ( 47888 ) on Monday August 18, 2003 @12:36AM (#6720440)
    Look at it this way:

    Nintendo is making a huge profit. Sony is making a (relatively) small profit. Microsoft is taking a loss the size of Nintendo's income (not profit). Very different picture there.

    Oh, and the SNES outsold the Genesis 2:1. Profit wise it was probably an even wider gap, although I've never seen financial figures for the two companies from back then.
  • Re:numbers? (Score:5, Informative)

    by PipianJ ( 574459 ) on Monday August 18, 2003 @12:51AM (#6720507)
    Worldwide figures are:

    1. PS2: 51.2 million worldwide (As of March)
    2. Gamecube: 9.55 million worldwide (As of March)
    3. Xbox: 9.4 million worldwide (As of July)

    US figures are:

    1. PS2: 17.7 million (As of May)
    2. Xbox: 6.2 million (As of May?)
    3. Gamecube: About 4 million? (figures not known, but estimated to be 2 million under Xbox)
  • by Osty ( 16825 ) on Monday August 18, 2003 @01:02AM (#6720539)

    Yes, I enjoyed Celda.

    I enjoyed Celda as well. Unfortunately, it's pretty much the only Gamecube game I've truly enjoyed so far (enough so that I played it entirely through). I admit that I only have a small library of Gamecube games, but that library does include Mario Sunshine and Metroid Prime, both of which were extremely disappointing to me. In fact, Metroid was extremely disappointing, considering that it was the reason I bought my Cube. Luckily, Celda made up for Metroid and made me not totally regret the purchase.

    Right now, I've been playing Mario Golf, and it's enjoyable, but it's certainly not going to hold my attention for more than another week or two (just up until Soul Calibur II hits the XBox, at which point Mario Golf will go back on the shelf with Mario Sunshine and Metroid Prime, to eventually be sold or traded away).

    For completeness, my Cube library consists of:

    • Mario Sunshine (came with the Cube)
    • Metroid Prime (disappointing)
    • Wind Waker (and the Zelda: OOT remake)
    • Rogue Squadron II (I was pretty disappointed with this one, so much so that I don't care that RS3 is coming soon)
    • Skies of Arcadia. I liked this one, but Knights of the Old Republic made me put it off to the side, and I don't see me picking it back up any time soon. Also, this was almost a straight port from the Dreamcast, so I'm not sure I'd really consider it a win for the Gamecube
    • Mario Golf. After Celda, this would be my best Cube game. It's fun to play through a round or two of golf, and I guess that's a plus because I can sit down and play for fifteen minutes or half an hour and then put it away. However, I don't anticipate it holding my attention long.

    Any suggestions on what would be some good Cube games to pick up? I don't have time to really play something like Animal Crossing (plus, I played the old Harvest Moon on the SNES, which seems to be similar in style to AC, and wasn't that enthralled), and I generally don't have enough friends over at my place to make something like Smash Brothers: Melee worth a purchase (and when I do have enough people over, we generally will play Halo on two XBoxs and TVs). And no cross-platform games, please. I'd rather play those on my XBox, though if there's a good game that's only on the Cube and PS2, I may consider picking it up for the Cube (no PS2, and no interest in a PS2).
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 18, 2003 @01:04AM (#6720547)
    The Washington-based company was already leading the world in production of operating systems, office software and pure evil.

    I thought the article was funny, and I don't think it was meant as anything other (did you see the predictions regarding World War VI?).

    Oh yeah, it comes with the Monty Python foot, though I didn't notice it until I had chuckled my way through the article, and came back to read.

    I also found a new sig (the quoted paragraph above)!
  • by incom ( 570967 ) on Monday August 18, 2003 @01:15AM (#6720586)
    The reason the Xbox isn't closer to the ps2 is that it isn't "cool" in japan, and thus the amazing console game creation prowless of the japanese isn't paying much attention to the Xbox(except for the companies that MS pays to create games). That, and the lack of good games aside from halo for the first year and a half of the Xbox's existance.
  • by aSiTiC ( 519647 ) on Monday August 18, 2003 @01:23AM (#6720615) Homepage
    I'd just like to say this article is quite ridiculous, but even if the entire article is a TROLL, I will respond.

    There are a number of GameCube releases that excite me in the future:

    Mario Kart Double Dash []

    Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles []

    I do not own a GameCube currently but I'm planning on buying one to play these two games...

    Still, I'm glad to have a PS2 so I can play this game:

    Final Fantasy X-2 []

  • by desenz ( 687520 ) <roypfoh AT gmail DOT com> on Monday August 18, 2003 @01:24AM (#6720619)
    You and I are in a surprisingly similar situtation. I'll admit, I have a fairly small collection of games too. When I purchased my gamecube, it was majorly for Metroid Prime And Zelda.

    I agree with you completely, I was definitely dissapointed with Metroid. But really, I never liked FPS on consoles, the controller is too clunky. If there was a PC port I might pick it up just to try the game on a platform with controls more suited to the genre. In all honesty, I played at most 50% through this one.

    I have however, found lots of other games worth playing. One thing I love about gamecube is that when I go to my local Blockbuster Video, I find their used games (in surprisingly good condition) for as little as $7. I bought Resident Evil 0 for 15, and was happy with it. Of course, that isn't really a game that everyone will enjoy. Star Fox Adventures was a decent game, cheap enough now that I would even give it a recommendation (Plays similar to zelda... sort of)

    Theres alot of new stuff coming out late this year thats looking pretty interesting on GC. If you're a racing fan, theres the new F-Zero game. Theres a new star fox on the way. Of course, the third coming of Mario Kart too. One of the most interesting to me, Viewtiful Joe.

    Now, I can't vouch for whether or not any of these games will be good, but I'll surely give them a try(at least a rent for one or two)

    If all else fails, break out your NES. They aren't so tough to repair. (You do have one, don't you?;-))
  • by euxneks ( 516538 ) on Monday August 18, 2003 @02:27AM (#6720782)
    The site is a Joke site.. I doubt any of the "information" is accurate.
  • Speculation says that Gamecube will fall to $129...

    ACTUALLY, according to this link [], Nintendo is going to be dropping the US price of the Gamecube to $99 by the end of September. Unfortunately, the only other place I found the info was here [] and there's no linkage in that "viewer mail" section to get more details. Nintendo's website was similarly not helpful at all.

    Assuming the above is true, it was probably at the end of last week's news cycle and we'll probably hear more tomorrow.

  • by PainKilleR-CE ( 597083 ) on Monday August 18, 2003 @10:31AM (#6722317)
    Hrm. I hadn't thought about doing that. I check out the local GameStops every now and then, but their used prices tend to be around $20-$30 (paid $20 for RS2, around $25 for Skies). I have a few Blockbusters nearby, so I'll check them for used games next time

    Definitely check out Blockbuster, I do it every chance I can get since I found Metroid Prime for $20 new, and have found a few good deals here and there.

    Also check out Eternal Darkness, which I found new for $15 at Gamestop (at that price, I couldn't justify to myself renting it before I bought it, but that's just me). I think the only games I have that I payed near normal full retail ($40-50) for were Mario Sunshine and Animal Crossing. I can't give a lot of good recommendations that haven't been heard a million times before at the moment, though, because I've been playing KOTOR every moment I get the TV to myself.
  • Re:numbers? (Score:4, Informative)

    by PipianJ ( 574459 ) on Monday August 18, 2003 @11:08AM (#6722581)

    To clarify for you:

    PS2 worldwide figures: Asahi Shimbun [] (also contains Nintendo figures)
    Xbox worldwide figures: MSFT 4th Quarter Earnings Report []
    Gamecube worldwide figures: Forbes from Reuters (at the bottom of the page). [] There are a few other pages quoting this figure as well.

    PS2 US figures: NPDFunWorld []
    Xbox US figures: Unknown. Possibly the same as above? []
    Gamecube US figures: Guessed from estimate listed on AMO.NET [] Please note that this article does seem to be biased towards the Xbox, with multiple opinions to that effect. Nevertheless there is one good quote:

    The real truth about these sales figures and future sales opportunities is that no single gaming system fan can be trusted with anything he or she has read regarding one system selling better, or performing better than the other.

"How many teamsters does it take to screw in a light bulb?" "FIFTEEN!! YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT?"