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Record Label Adds PS2 Game To Album 41

Posted by simoniker from the what's-the-amplitude-kenneth? dept.
Thanks to the San Jose Mercury News/AP for their article discussing Atlantic Records' addition of an abridged, playable PlayStation 2 game to a new music album, due out next month. According to the article: "The first 1 million copies of P.O.D.'s fifth record, "Payable on Death," will come with a version of "Amplitude," a game that allows players to remix a collection of pop songs." Interestingly, "The abridged version of the game will only have a P.O.D. song called 'Space'", a track that wasn't available on the original release of the Sony-published music game, and the president of the record company says: "Atlantic Records has an opportunity with this because this technology is not copyable, it's not downloadable, it's not swappable."
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  • I'd probably pick it up just for the extra Amplitude level. As it stands, though, the one track w/ P.O.D. in Amplitude drives me nuts, and it's at least a Crystal Method remix of one of their songs.

    As for the claim that this won't be copyable / shareable, ummm yeah right. Maybe for people that don't have modded PS2s, but for those that do, it'll be easy enough.

  • Not copyable? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Mattcelt ( 454751 ) on Thursday October 02, 2003 @07:13AM (#7112362)
    Then how do they make it in the first place?

    I can't believe how naive these people are, thinking that there is anything secure in the digital world. Everything can, and will, be broken at some point.

    I give them a month, tops, before the game (and the song) is copied, cracked, and shared extensively.

    • Re:Not copyable? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Acidic_Diarrhea ( 641390 ) on Thursday October 02, 2003 @07:34AM (#7112460) Homepage Journal
      I think they realize that it is not secure but the fact is the average person does not have a modded PS2 and would have to buy the CD in order to get the game. Sure, the game will end up being available for download but this seems like a step in the right direction for the music industry. Again, to the average user this is a nice deal because you get something extra in addition to the music. I saw a Marilyn Manson cd being sold that included a DVD along with it. This type of value-adding is what the music companies need to do in order to get people back to the store to buy their CDs - if that's the business model they want to hold onto.

      By the way, everytime any Slashdot article mentions a spokesman talking about the security of a product, someone posts the "I give them a [time period] before..." It's not really needed.

      • Again, to the average user this is a nice deal because you get something extra in addition to the music. I saw a Marilyn Manson cd being sold that included a DVD along with it. This type of value-adding is what the music companies need to do in order to get people back to the store to buy their CDs - if that's the business model they want to hold onto.

        Unfortunately, they've marked up the price on this one quite a bit, with the recommended price at $20. I have a handful of CDs that came with DVDs (off-han
        • Ah, I didn't know they were charging that much for it. That is completely unacceptable. I don't buy albums unless they come out for $10 and include some extras other than just the music. For instance, the most recent Metallica release included a user name and password to get a bunch of live mp3s and studio outtakes. (I would have bought this but it's Metallica and Lars alienated me by going after the fans.)

          And yes, that Manson DVD was very bad - a little too self-congragulatory

    • "Atlantic Records has an opportunity with this because this technology is not copyable, it's not downloadable, it's not swappable."

      This just in, within minutes of this announcement AtLANtikCr4c|< 1.0 was released and allowed this to be played on PC's Macintosh, Linux, as well as able to copy in your own cheat codes in real time, as well as burn directly to cd-r.

  • this ship is unsinkable! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by tiled_rainbows ( 686195 ) on Thursday October 02, 2003 @07:14AM (#7112368) Homepage Journal
    this technology is not copyable, it's not downloadable, it's not swappable

    Does this guy want the game cracked? Saying stuff like the above is just going to make it happen all the faster.

  • An opportunity? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by DJayC ( 595440 ) * on Thursday October 02, 2003 @07:18AM (#7112383)
    Atlantic Records has an opportunity with this because this technology is not copyable, it's not downloadable, it's not swappable.

    I don't understand the opportunity. The game is on a bundled DVD. The music itself is, of course, still on a normal CD, which is copyable. Are they concerned about people copying the game, or the music? The game is no less prone to copying than any other PS2 game, and the music CD is just as prone as every other music CD. Strange for them to mention that benefit.
    • It's added value.

      They want people to have an extra reason to buy the real CD over the other alternatives.
      • The opportunity lies in the fact that they have included a game with the CD. Of course that adds incentive to buying the music. But the article references the fact that it is an opportunity "because this technology is not copyable, it's not downloadable, it's not swappable". This is not why it might be a good idea... it's a good idea because, as you said, it's added value.

  • Not copyable? (Score:3, Funny)

    by dirtmerchant ( 162306 ) on Thursday October 02, 2003 @07:19AM (#7112387) Homepage
    Sounds like a bet to me.

  • Aahahaaha (Score:3, Funny)

    by @madeus ( 24818 ) <slashdot_24818@mac.com> on Thursday October 02, 2003 @07:27AM (#7112420)
    "Atlantic Records has an opportunity with this because this technology is not copyable, it's not downloadable, it's not swappable."

    A-ha, a-hahaha, ouch, my sides - it hurts! Make it stop, make it stop! Ahaha.....

    If it's not copyable, that surely must mean they are making every copy by hand (from scratch?)! Wow, that's some busy backrooms you've got there! These things must cost hundreds of dollars each!

    • Well.. you got the price right, at least.
    • Hundreds of dollars? Naw, you just give a starving kid in some third-world country a blank DVD and a chisel, by the time you factor in labor costs the kid actually pays the company for the privilege of producing the disc.
  • Yeah.

    For the record, amplitude is a fantastic game. Its like a live-action modtracker.

    Madfun in vs mode.
  • they are trying to say that you can't copy it in analog? (you know, output from your amp into your PC's MIC input) may sound like crap (always did when I tried) but you CAN to that. -Mr. Obvious
    • Dude! what sound card do you have?! I want one thatcan record PS2 games in through the analog mic input!
      • It's just something I whipped up out of old sound cards, some wires, and car battery.

        I guess I wasn't clear enugh.

        The idea is that you output your PS2 to an AMP (reciever) and then you send a line out to your plain old sound card. Or if you have a nice sound card with a digital input, you can just send audio from the PS2 optical port to the sound car's optical port.

        Long story short: streaming
        • Dude, have you played Frequency or Amplitude? You only get part of the track at the time... it's fun enough in a gameplay environment, but without the interactivity it's pretty unlistenable.
    • That.. and the fact that technology is getting better all the time. So now we have digital output, and for the people with higher end sound cards in their system, likely digital input. So now we have a digital-digital copy through lines. It's not as fast, but it still works.
  • Mogwai's last album, "Happy Songs for Happy People" came out with a demo-type version of Cubase and wav's of all the separate tracks to the album's first song. Basically they let you remix as you wanted; I thought it was a neat idea.

  • Price (Score:3, Insightful)

    by AndyBusch ( 160585 ) on Thursday October 02, 2003 @07:51AM (#7112573)
    Note at the end of the article it says the suggested price is $20. It mentioned an included DVD as well. If you get a CD with an album and game, and a DVD, $20 is ok, but otherwise it's pricy. If the one track game is inflating the price, that's not so hot, but if they didn't add anything to the cost by including the game, that's really awesome. I've always liked enhanced CDs, though not when they make it annoyingly difficult to watch the stuff (like the ones that require a network connection to read the data on the CD).
  • I think there point was that, without a modchip, you will not be able to copy the playstation game.

    As for those of us with modchips, that hate P.O.D., hopefully this will show up on eMule sometime. Amplitude is just about the best game ever.

  • I believe by saying "cannot be copied", "uncopyable", "copy proof", etc... you are actually speeding the enevitable process of it being copied. not that i would copy it... i just know someone who could. :)

  • LOL (Score:1)

    by Shafli ( 695663 )
    I give it two days before that thing is floating around Kazaa or whatever. No, in fact, I bet it'll be out in the P2P community before it even hits store shelves. "Atlantic Records has an opportunity with this because this technology is not copyable, it's not downloadable, it's not swappable." WHAT A JOKE!!
  • Now I can NOT buy a shitty band's cd and NOT buy a shitty game all at the same time!
  • I'm pretty certain there are already lots of CD's released with a data track of Windows programs.

    The fact that they targeted the PS2 rather than a Windows machine is pretty interesting, but it seems all the press release is about things that would be true for the Windows executable as well.

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