GameCube Sales Quadruple, Nintendo Debuts New Slogan 189
Thanks to GameSpot for their report that sales of Nintendo's GameCube have quadrupled, following the price cut to $99. The piece quotes an effusive GameStop spokesman as saying: "Our sales of Nintendo GameCube have increased more than fourfold. We are currently increasing our shipment requests for the system throughout the holidays." Meanwhile, the Chicago Sun-Times reports on the new Nintendo adverts, both TV and print, with the tagline "Who Are You?" - the print ads "...show the heads of Nintendo characters superimposed on famous images, including players in the rock band Kiss, a person straddling the now-demolished Berlin Wall and no less an icon than the Mona Lisa", and the massive $100 million ad spending will also feature "a 60-second cinema commercial... shot on location in Asia... [and featuring] more than 500 extras."
Not very surprising to me.. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Not very surprising to me.. (Score:1)
With the price now even lower than it was more kids will be able to convince there parents to buy them a game system, especially since Big N is so cute and cuddly. Also I believe you need to consider that this price drop just when live not long ago and many people who already wanted a GC anyways, like me, were holding off becau
Re:Honsestly...No (Score:1)
Actually it was 150 for the GC with a free game or player, the difference there being that it was a very limited selection of games (none of which did I particularly care for).
specific advantages in the Xbox over the Gamecube...DVD player
Not fresh out of the box.
Oh and I don't know where you're living but it is exactly
Re:Honsestly...No (Score:2, Interesting)
As the other poster mentioned, the DVD player is a $30 addition. Internet games is $50/year (GC network adapter is an additional cost and more games are coming that support network play, though not internet play atm). Higher quality output is another additional cost (I don't know what the A/V pack costs since I have a fairly old TV). The hard drive is it, and
Re:Not very surprising to me.. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Not very surprising to me.. (Score:2)
Re:Not very surprising to me.. (Score:1)
We can all name dozens of cancelled MS products if we've been around Slashdot long enough, but take a really hard look at how many products are grouped into the same division of Microsoft as the XBox, where the whole division basically loses money constantly, and how long some of those products have been around. If MS thinks someone else has a market
Re:Not very surprising to me.. (Score:1)
Not really...all three consoles are coming into the end of their lifecycles, and lets face it, $99-$69 isn't a bad price for a second console. None of the several computers I've owned over the past 8 years have run any sort of Microsoft OS. As a rabid anti-MS troll, I'm ashamed to admit that I'm really impressed with my XBox.
I plan on picking up the GameCube sometime in the next week, but I don't see it as a direct competitor to the X-Box...it's purely a gaming console, and it's insane to pass up a chance
Re:Not very surprising to me.. (Score:2)
Re:Not very surprising to me.. (Score:1)
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Re:Not very surprising to me.. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Not very surprising to me.. (Score:2)
Particularly when the EB guy warns you when you buy the PS2 that if you play DVDs the laser will wear out 24x faster.
Lower the price, and sales increase (Score:2)
Now if we can convince our governments that if they lower taxes, the tax revenue will actually increase....
Re:Lower the price, and sales increase (Score:5, Informative)
This does not often work in taxes and govt, becasue the revenue that is returned to the people is not always spent back into the govt. FI, the US tax cuts this time around went to paying down debt and in very secure, low yield securities, with no one selling and everyone holding because prices were so low that they had to go up. In a bear market, not only are prices low, but you buy stock at low price to reap a high reward later. So, in effect, in several years, yes, we might get more money from reduced taxes. However, this has nothing to do with tax revenue in the short run as a decrease in the cost of govt (taxes) did not increase spending one iota, and on top of that there was an increase in govt spending that decreaesd revenue to the point that the govt has taken to using future revenue (credit, defecit spending) in order to make up for the non-elastic outcome of lowering taxes. Don't worry, someone will have to raise taxes in the future to pay for lower taxes today.
Needless to say, lowering the price on a gamecube is a bit more simple than fiscal and monetary policy of billion-trillion dollar economies
Re:Lower the price, and sales increase (Score:2)
Cutting spending is better.
Re:Lower the price, and sales increase (Score:1, Offtopic)
Yes, but only if it's done properly. Broad tax cuts (and, even worse, tax cuts for the wealthy) like Bush's aren't very expensive. The bulk of the money went to the upper middle and upper class individuals. Those individuals are likely to save the money instead of spending, which doesn't stiumlate the economy at all. Think about it: an upper middle class or upper class individual already has the money
Re:Lower the price, and sales increase (Score:1)
Aren't very expensive to who? The easiest way to increase the amount of money that a given tax cut will 'cut' is to reduce taxes on the wealthy a very minor amount. If you cut taxes on people making $20,000/year, there's very little tax to cut and very little money coming in from those people to begin with (if any, I don't remember where the cut-off point is, but it's certainly
Re:Lower the price, and sales increase (Score:2)
In an economy where there is too little production, then tax cuts on the rich are a good thing. This will pay for factory upgrades. Investment becomes crucial in getting the economy moving.
However, right now the problem is one of not enough demand. Like it or not, those lower down the tax bracket do spend a higher % of their money, and faster at that. As well, more of it is sp
Re:Lower the price, and sales increase (Score:2)
Average lifespan was lower then the social security.
And the government is not propping it up either. Social security is propping up government spending.
Don't spread missinformation. Unless you want karma.
Re:Lower the price, and sales increase (Score:2, Interesting)
Social Security is propping up government spending, but because of that it's had to be propped up itself. Additionally, due in part to the way government likes to take money from Social Security to balance other portions of the budget, money that goes into Social Security today goes straight out to pay beneficiaries. This is why it can't support itself once the baby boomers begin to retire, or even any time
Completely good news? (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Completely good news? (Score:1)
Gord [actsofgord.com] suggests that Nintendo was losing a small amount on the GC when it was released at $199. Fast-forward two years, during which time hardware costs will have fallen quite significantly and the price drop probably isn't breaking them.
GBA selling like hotcakes at a hotcake addicts convention probably doesn't hurt either.
Re:Completely good news? (Score:2, Insightful)
As far as I can tell from his site, he's nothing more than an oversized young adult whose life revolves around his video game store.
He hasn't demonstrated the ability to read a financial report; Where does he get off commenting on the manufacturing of multi billion dollar corporations? I can get lots of 'news' from the dorks down at my local EBgames as well, but I don't base any of my
Re:Completely good news? (Score:1)
Re:Completely good news? (Score:4, Informative)
But regardless, Nintendo is very much in the black, as you seem to be implying that they are teetering towards the red. See this article [abqjournal.com] for information on this. (Basically, they made 95 million in their first fiscal quarter of the year.) They may not be making the kind of money that was coming in during the heyday of the NES but Nintendo is not in dire straits.
Re:Completely good news? (Score:1)
Re:Completely good news? (Score:1)
Re:Completely good news? (Score:1)
Second is that they're only selling the console and a controller at $99, so there's not a great deal coming in that box. (frankly, since
Re:Completely good news? (Score:1)
Now, though, they sell the console at $99 and they likely get to sell a game on their own terms. And, if one is getting a cheap GC, one might want a used game, and as you said, all the profit mar
Re:Completely good news? (Score:1)
Re:Completely good news? (Score:2)
How can i go down to the store and get a calculator for a few buck that has more computing power than ENIAC, which cost about half a million to make? Why is it that if i sell a computer i bought for $2000 a few years ago that i'll be lucky to get a few hundred for it now?
As always, prices for electronics have dropped, and that drop is even larger when you're talking abo
News Headline from the Future (Score:1)
Re:News Headline from the Future (Score:2, Insightful)
Nintendo is doing very well now, the gamecube is the one that is not going so good, developers are beginning to abandon it and they are not even building them anymore, of course the sales have quadrupled, they are practically giving them away.
The PSP is about to be released next year, Nintendo is a big company but not as big as sony or MS if the PSP beats their GBA and its succesor they ARE going to be in troub
Re:News Headline from the Future (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:News Headline from the Future (Score:2)
No, he was using hyperbole to good effect as a commentary about the people who try to twist any news about Nintendo, no matter the nature of the news, into something negative.
I suppose a jump from one to four *does* count.... (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm glad to hear their sales have jumped. Hopefully this nips the whole "Gamecube is dead" article blight in the bud, since I was getting sick of people claiming that, despite the excellent games.
skye
Re:I suppose a jump from one to four *does* count. (Score:2)
Razor/Razor-blades... (Score:2)
Given than the gamecube can probably be made for $50 in quantity, it seems to make sense to sell them for as little as possible and make money off the games. I'm not suggesting losing money off the console, but breaking even (which is probably what the $99 retail price is getting them). Game consoles seem to be largely about two things: number of consoles sold (I want to be able to trade games with my friends, and I don't want to be stuck with a console no one develops games for), and secondarily the tech
Not trade (Score:2)
My friends encouraged me several years ago to get a GameCube, because they already had PS2 or Xbox. When I go to the one's house we play PS2 (or Xbox, respectively) games, by mixing up the system we get more varity.
I didn't have the money back then though. Today I'm thinking about going the MAME/emulator route. Nothing like a good game of MULE/PacMAN, or such to remind everyone that this is about fun.
Nintendo Campaign Confuses (Score:2)
I'm sorry, I'm under the same opinion as IGN [ign.com], that the ads cause more confusion, then the image Nintendo is trying to market through the advertising campaigns. Just take a look at how ridiculous this picture [ign.com] looks. It obviously doesn't look like Nintendo is aiming for the Xbox GenXer or teen. I have to say that most marketing campaigns, at least when they start out, are meant to be confusing. They are supposed to entice you with your curiosity. Let's hope Nintendo's hyped commercial changes my opinion.
IMHO
Re:Nintendo Campaign Confuses (Score:3, Interesting)
To me, Nintendo is marketing the fact that they're still Nintendo after all these years. People oftentimes are unhappy in the present, and the future is a scary proposition, so they generally take solace in the past. Look at all the 80's revival shows on VH1, the new Garbage Pail Kids cards, retrogaming, etc. People love being reminded of all the cool stuff about their youth (as opposed to the crappy th
Re:Nintendo Campaign Confuses (Score:2)
Is that James Earl Jones? Doesn't sound like him. Some other well-known actor, of course, whose name escapes me. Maybe Laurence Fishburne, perhaps, but I'm fairly certain it's not Jones.
Re:Nintendo Campaign Confuses (Score:2)
Re:Nintendo Campaign Confuses (Score:2)
Mass market price point. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Mass market price point. (Score:2)
A Letter To My Son (Score:1, Funny)
I miss the Mario games you used to play as a kid too. They occupied you for hours, during which time I was able to make sweet love to your mother. Now you're always just sitting around making it impossible for me to get her clothes off. Why don't you move out of the house already? You're 27!!!
sincerely,
dad
Re:Mass market price point. (Score:2)
Looks like people are as dumb as they seem...
Re:Mass market price point. (Score:2)
Re:Mass market price point. (Score:2)
Will it last? (Score:1)
Re:Will it last? (Score:2)
The GC has online play, it is just that so far hardly of the game developers have got their heads out of their collective asses long enough to realise that those of us who own GC want to play online as well.
Re: Will it last? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Will it last? (Score:2)
This is good, but it has some bad ramifications (Score:1)
Re:This is good, but it has some bad ramifications (Score:2)
Frequently Spouted Untruth (Score:1)
Re:Frequently Spouted Untruth (Score:2)
Re:This is good, but it has some bad ramifications (Score:1)
OK, so let's look at this for a minute:
Nintendo was making a good profit selling a console bundled with a game or a GameBoy Player for $150. With the games I can see that, it really doesn't cost much to bundle a game, except any sales you might have gotten of that game and whatever profit difference exists. Microsoft cuts this cost by bundling low-selling games in cheap package
Re:This is good, but it has some bad ramifications (Score:1)
Pathetic advertising idea (Score:2)
looks like the advertising budget was slashed to $99 too
$100M ad cmpaign?!?! (Score:1)
Re:$100M ad cmpaign?!?! (Score:2)
Err, your math only works out if it costs nothing to make or ship a GC, and they also can't make any money selling games.
Skip the marketing. With a 4X increase already, the news is out. BC
Ehh, that could be. But who knows.
Count me as one of the new buyers (Score:1)
The asshole replies: (Score:1)
Metroid Prime
Animal Crossings
Batman Vengence (think that was the name)
Skys of Arcadia Legends
Mario Sunshine
Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time (didn't get the Windwalker, oh well)
StarFox
Lost Kingdoms
Resident Evil
Wavebird Wireless control
A MadCatz small control
S-Video Cable
Carrying Case with a clip on disk holder
Modem
Used for about three months, and not well used eaither. All of this stuff looked like it was taken out of the original packaging and placed into the carry-all b
Coming soon from Redmond, WA (Score:1)
Next slogan... (Score:5, Funny)
Maybe the Evil Empire (Score:2)
Video Game Zombies... (Score:1)
Re:Video Game Zombies... (Score:2, Insightful)
Yeah, and they often blurt out fanboyish opinions without ever giving other games a chance too.
All too often I see, say, the latest Rockman or Sonic title being criticised by these Zombie Gamers for being too "cute" or "kiddie", when they haven't even attempted to play or enjoy them. It's a sad state of affairs.
Re:Video Game Zombies... (Score:2)
I know this is an american forum (Score:2)
Is nintendo once again pissing on european customers despite the fact that in europe they were 2nd?
Re:I know this is an american forum (Score:1)
The price has been dropped to $199 in Australia. (Score:2)
consumer perception (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:consumer perception (Score:1)
Re:consumer perception (Score:2)
If that was not the case, however, then you are completely right and this price drop is nothing more than a publicity stunt.
Re:consumer perception (Score:1)
For $150 you can probably get a couple of good games with a GameCube now, especially if you buy used and/or stick with older games. The majority of the games I have for my Cube cost less than $30.
Re:consumer perception (Score:2)
They might actually sell more licensed games because of this.
Not all (Score:2)
And frankly I'd rather pay $99.99 for a system and choose from any game I want rather than pay $149.99 and be forced to choose between a small selection of games.
Maybe I'd rather get two older games that are used or whatever and save money there as well. Bundled packages don't give me that option.
For people who wanted that $50 game anyway it doesn't make sense but for people with budgets who would rather stick to $20 titles, it makes perfect sense.
Ben
Resume production? (Score:1)
Re:Resume production? (Score:4, Informative)
Rejected slogan (Score:2)
Seriously, from being in the game industry, I had given up on the Gamecube as dead (even though I bought one last month, and love it), and figured Nintendo had as well. I thought ok, they'll put in a token effort, and keep their heads above water, and then wo wus all with a fresh release of a brand new console earlier than anyone else. Awesome.
Then the Gamecube came down to $99 ($139
Phantasy Star Online Ep I & II For Xbox.... (Score:2)
It shouldn't have remained in the North American version, but it did.
And sales weren't very high....
Thursdae
Durable Gamecube (Score:2)
Re:Durable Gamecube (Score:1)
Well, it seems to have hit the magic point (Score:1, Troll)
And I'm even more surprised to see an ad campaign involving the word "millions", "dolllars" and "Nintendo" in it, being that aside from simple commercials, they've survived on pure word-of-mouth advertising for over 100 years.(Yes, they're over 100 years old, they used to make playing
messed up slogan translation.. (Score:1)
"Who is your DADDY.. and WHAT does he DO!?"
Quadrupled sales, therefore... (Score:2)
I thought the purpose of advertising was to increase sales, not to affirm sales already made. Why not just continue with the current campaign of the "Now just $99.99"?
Oh well. At least with an uncracked system, they can't blame low sales on piracy.
You have to wonder... (Score:2)
The very fact that the nintendo gamecube *isn't* cra
Re:Quadrupled sales, therefore... (Score:2)
to fifteen years ago (Score:2)
why the hell do they now cost several hundred dollars and each game over $50.00? Nowadays the game's don't last as long, Story line games cannot support more than one player at the time, no wonder people don't want to spend money anymore.
Re:1 x 4 = 4 (Score:2, Informative)
Re:1 x 4 = 4 (Score:2)
Glad you know your math.
Re:1 x 4 = 4 (Score:2)
Um.. huh? (Score:3, Informative)
Yes, this is called "building brand image". They are probably advertising the company, not the gamecube, because they have more products than just the gamecube.
actually there are no plans for big gamecube games next year
This is where you are just wrong.
Never mind for the moment that there is a BIG bunch of gamecube games still to be released before the end of the 2003, that the best bunch of games are always likely to be relea
Re:Havent you noticed? (Score:3, Informative)
It was a temporary stop in production. The same press conference that announced the price drop also announced that production was starting again soon.
This campaign ad is not for upcoming gamecube games, actually there are no plans for big gamecube games next year
You mentioned Metal Gear and Metroid. There's also:
Star Fox Armada (or Star Fox 2, or whatever they call it)
Zelda (another cell shaded game)
Final Fanta
Re:Havent you noticed? (Score:2)
Re:Havent you noticed? (Score:2)