Mass Media Coverage Of Gaming Discussed 35
Thanks to Adrenaline Vault for their editorial discussing the increased coverage of computer gaming in the mainstream press, and the "major distortions" that have subsequently evolved. Among the charges leveled are that "...the mass media generally assumes all good players are teenagers and oldsters are klutzes... In reality, those who play computer games - and are adept at them - are getting on in years." The writer also suggests that "...critics in the mass media... almost always equate visual excellence with photorealism", before ending on the hypothesis that: "If you can't spot any difference between pieces by dedicated game reviewers and mass media entertainment writers, then those of us who fall in the first category are doing something very wrong."
Re:They play favorites (Score:2)
Similar for movies? (Score:1)
I know I couldn't really critique a movie. All acting looks pretty much the same to me, and if I go to a movie expecting non-stop action, then I wouldn't consider that a downside of the movie.
Do movie reviewers use common (and incorrect) ideas about movies: movies in the countryside in another time about love are good, and movies with say, a terminator from the future are bad? Maybe when it's about something s
Re:Similar for movies? (Score:1)
Re:Similar for movies? (Score:2)
As long as reviewers take this attitude to reviewing I won't care about their reviews...
Re:Similar for movies? (Score:1)
Most "art films" never get seen so the good ones, unless a reviewer sees it and makes some noise about it, wont stand a chance.
would you.. (Score:3, Insightful)
of course not.
why would you listen to a gaming review from some guy who just happens to be a resident at some newspaper? would you listen to the guys pron review either? of course not because the guy probably hasn't even played the game for more than few hours(time and intrest limits).
that being said, would you listen to a review that is almost completely based on rumours and screenshots and pre-hype like most first 'hands on' reviews are? i don't give them much weight anymore at all(in fact, i stopped giving them weight when the expansion for wing commander game out and got 99% on a local game mag, with not too much explanation why, i mean, if i did give them any merit why would i need any more reviews than that since it is obviously nearingly best thing there will be and everything is just about perfect in it).
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Re:would you.. (Score:2)
Speaking of distortions.. (Score:2)
I wish they had delved a little deeper into the violence issue here. They don't just assume all games incorporate adult themes, they also intentionally portray the game in a distorted fashion to make it look like the game company is trying to warp children's values. My favorite is the "see? You can beat up a granny!" example. Every single time they'll show the granny get beat up and killed. Or
Re:Speaking of distortions.. (Score:2)
You lose all your missions and have to restart the mission. I'm sorry to say, but this game wouldn't be fun if death meant the game uninstalled itself.
"Or is the consequence being provided the chance to kill a bunch of cops instead of just random pedestrians?"
That's not the goal of the game, it works against it. If you're going to argue with me, at least read what I said.
"I see where the similarity is now. My bad."
I don
Re:Speaking of distortions.. (Score:2)
No, that is not true. Good job letting the media warp your mind.
Want to talk about warping your mind? Play Crazy Taxi for a bit. You can't run over anybody. They all magically get out of the way quickly. Imagine having that idea implanted in your mind. "I don't have to worry about striking that pedestrian, he'll move."
Re:Speaking of distortions.. (Score:1)
I guess the Simpsons Hit and Run is worse. While most of the time they jump out of the way, you can also hit them but they are OK after they say a funny quip.
Re:Speaking of distortions.. (Score:1)
Not everyone chooses to play the game the same way. Once you choose not to do the missions, there is not point to the game, you just do whatever you want to do. There are people out there that will drive around the city obeying traffic laws or looking for places to pull stunts. On the other hand people will put in a weapons cheat and go on a shooting spree.
Re:Speaking of distortions.. (Score:2)
Re:Speaking of distortions.. (Score:1)
Older gamers are better? (Score:1)
I call bullshit. Yes, the folks in my generation (mid 30's) are better at computer games than the same age group was 10 years ago, but as an older gamer myself I can attest to the fact that most of the teenagers are better at the current crop of games than I am. The reason why is very simple: They h
Re:Older gamers are better? (Score:2)
I thought the same thing when I read that. Us busy types like the simple 'hop in and hop out' arcade style games. It's hard to play a game when your two yead old nephew is running around the house wanting you to play with him.
Re:Older gamers are better? (Score:1)
Computer Games are not video games? Since when? (Score:2)
No it doesn't. It may be more commonly used of console games, but using it for computer games is correct.
Fortunately, Adrenaline Vault itself hasn't followed this rule. (See, for example, The History of Video Game Prices [avault.com], which discusses both console and compu
Awesome (Score:3, Interesting)
The author supposes that the mainstream press portrays games negatively because of a few eggs, that while not bad per se, are controversial at least. Well, thats not really true. The mainstream press tells the story of those games because they are controversial. This is called "a story", and this sells issues. If we don't want people covering games such as GTA and Postal, don't buy (hence ceasing production of) these games. Those games are part of the large picture and the media tends to report the extreme of all things, note here that games are not special in this way, so why would games be any different. Sounds to me like this issue is as matured as any in the mainstream. As for the Touched by an Angel point (which seems to be the only specific account provided), the writer of that show is allowed any view of the issue he wants. As soon as real people stop dying over Counter-Strike and Everquest, I'll rid myself of the notion that just maybe games can have an effect on people.
The writer of the article questions the ability of the press to be able to comprehend games due to limited exposure. Oh please, touch yourself some more. Yes, a non-games specific writer would not be expected to play games as much as a full-time games writer, but is this bad? In the MAINSTREAM press one would hope the writer most closely matches the audience, ie mainstream. The author then plays terminology nazi, which is always convincing and never sour-grapes sounding. Noone cares if one uses video games or computer games except term nazis and noone cares what they think anyway. If I am reading Maxim for my video game reviews, I would want the writer to think like someone who gets their game reviews from Maxim thinks. Think is a good thing.
As for the young vs old gamer thing. Yes, kids play games more (always will) and they have more time to practice the current game and are better at it because of this. A stupid, grasping point to make in the first place.
I really like this one:
In other words, we need to reflect a higher standard than the mainstream press.
HA! No article published on the internet will ever be of the same quality as real press. If it was, the writer would be employed by the legitimate press and not some fan(boy)-site.
As for the point of necessary skill as a gamer? Nonsense. Despite some opinion [gamespot.com] to the contrary, if a game isn't fun within the first hour, on the first level, when will it be fun? Someone reading the mainstream press will want that first level to be fun and will want to know if it is or isnt.
This is just another self-important article by the needy gaming press. It is needy and attention hungry by nature and this article is just one exhibition of that fact.
Re:Awesome (Score:1)
You should prolly stop coming by
Re:Awesome (Score:1)
No article published on the internet will ever be of the same quality as real press. If it was, the writer would be employed by the legitimate press and not some fan(boy)-site.
utter horseshit
Re:Awesome (Score:1)
There's one big problem with this theory: neither of the Postal games sold all that well (though obviously the first game sold well enough to justify a sequel, at least to their publisher). Some games just seem to keep getting made regardless of whether or not people want to play them, and the press doesn't care if people are actually playing the games or not.
The press was always all over
Re:Awesome (Score:2)
Really? The LA Times ran a story about this LAST WEEK. It covered the on-going fortune of the MMORPG and drawing in more mainstream gamers. It hit on the horrible failure of the Sims Online.
Re:Awesome (Score:1)
Only mass media game coverage worth reading (Score:2)
Mr. Mandel (Score:1)
Writes who remain ignorant of any field they report on are not doing their job. If you do not gain some familiarity with your subject, you are being professionally negligent.
The argument is that just as any discerning person can make intelligent comments about books, television shows, movies and music, so an intelligent novic
Real game critics (Score:1)
They make an excellent comparision not only to mass-media coverage of games, but also to most writing from within the industry. Pretty much all of the reviews are long, over a page, but they also get to go much deeper on the reviewer's thoughts about the game, which really gets back to the core of what "reviewing" and "criticism" in the artistic sense is all about - personal opinions and insightful commentary.
Many reviews treat art(in a variety of forms - music and movies get similar tr
been going on for a long time... (Score:2)
The reporter was trying desperately to hype of some addiction or violence angle. It was interesting that every adult he talked to was a