GPS for GBA 139
Grey Ninja writes "I just came across a preview for a new gadget that's going to be demoed at E3, which is a GPS and map attachment for your GBA. It should be mentioned that you can pre-order now and get $50 off. " I can't imagine very many useful applications for this, but it sure is nifty.
GPS for the Parent (Score:2, Interesting)
Well... now you do!
Re:GPS for the Parent (Score:3, Funny)
Applications (Score:1)
Re:Applications (Score:5, Informative)
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Of course, once the GPS unit has computed your position, anything with RF transmission capability can phone home and relay that information.
These radio's [rei.com] do just that.
So does this Air Force SAR [fas.org] radio.
Even this thing like LoJack called ThiefJack [gpsonsale.com]
Even the Call For Help Watch [safetyands...center.com] to track your children can do it.
I would pretty much assume that this technology will be in every GPS capable device within the next few years.
Re:Applications (Score:2)
And that was pretty much what I meant.
Thanks for bailing me out!!! hehe
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Maybe, maybe not. There are a huge set of assumptions if it can.
One of the key challenge for the location based services (via mobile phone and/or gps) is the tedious management of access groups and permissions.
It has to do with privacy issues essentially.
A simple scenerio is - the owner of their location information have the full ownership on how they want their location information be shared, and with who.
However, like many other services, location based services, for example, tracking, is usually done with a third party involved - acting like a proxy agent, and as such must have certain permission set from the owner of the location information.
To make things more challenging, we can add another role, by having a guardian over the owner of the location information.
And the quick question now is - who owns the location information? The owner of the location information or the guardian of the owner? There are no easy answers.
Anyway - nowadays, knowing where the kids are is a _willing_ mobile phone call away.
Re:GPS for the Parent (Score:5, Informative)
Global Positioning, not Tracking. GPS units are entirely passive. The only person who knows where a given GPS is located is the person holding the GPS. Unless you're going to also fit the children with a cellular telemetry rig or something, only the kids will know where they are.
Re:GPS for the Parent (Score:2)
Don't underestimate the buying power of the "Paranoid Parent" market.
I know... (Score:1)
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Ehe (Score:2, Funny)
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you can't? (Score:3, Interesting)
If I could have a reliable GPS unit that was attached to my PDA and it still functioned as well as a handheld one I would love it.
Re:you can't? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:you can't? (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:you can't? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:you can't? (Score:4, Insightful)
So buy a Garmin iQue.
Re:you can't? (Score:2)
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Why is the GBA the center of portable gaming? (Score:5, Interesting)
Though GPS on a GBA is somewhat nifty, I think that a normal compactflash (or other media style) of GPS unit for a PDA would be more useful.
Perhaps Nintendo can turn global navigation into a 2d mario-style game. Then, I could break the road blocks in my way by jumping up at them.
Re:Why is the GBA the center of portable gaming? (Score:1, Informative)
Have you even looked at other GPS devices? Garmin eTrex, for example, has five buttons as well. Only one is used for entering address information. I would love to have a GPS with a colour screen. The only downside I see to this is backlighting and accurate maps. Nothing else.
Re:Why is the GBA the center of portable gaming? (Score:2)
As for maps, they are fairly expensive but the newest maps are pretty accurate, even for Canada. I'm amazed at what's actually in the database of points of interests.
Re:Why is the GBA the center of portable gaming? (Score:3, Insightful)
1) Technical and usability superiority over all direct competitors.
Face it - no other portable game system has been able to go toe-to-toe with the game boy and win. The series has good design, a large library, and no 'major' design flaws (the screen on GBA was the closest, and it wasn't bad enough - compared with Game Gear (eat through 6 AA batteries in an hour or so) or Neo Geo Pocket (suprisingly poor screen, hooks up to a dead game system, no games available.)
2) Marketing
Nint
Re:Why is the GBA the center of portable gaming? (Score:2)
That said, there is a point in every console's life where it cannot keep going on. Perhaps it is cut down in it's prime like so many before it. Perhaps it never got the support it needed. The Jaguar, Neo-Geo, Turbo-Grafix, and 3DO fall in this category in how they left this world.
Then there are those that die of old age. They may have life-supporting emulation, but truly they are de
Re:Why is the GBA the center of portable gaming? (Score:3, Informative)
Why is Nintendo so entrenched in portable gaming? Long-term involvment. Just yesterday I was busy with all the home's computers, so my girlfriend dug out some old (1983!) Nintendo "game and watches" I have. They still work, they're still fun.
I agree that GPS on the GBA seems odd, though, but I'd guess the target market is more youthful - the kind of market that (like my niece!) loves Barbie Walkie-Talkies, and can accept the imitations.
Perhaps Nintendo can turn global navigation into a 2d mario-style
Re:Why is the GBA the center of portable gaming? (Score:2)
That will be cool.. imagine a gameplay scenerio build based on surrounding.
However, where mobile gaming is concern, I think GBA is quite behind other players - assuming the purpose of the GPS module is for mobile gaming intention, like suggested.
N-Gage, for example, although criticised, is actually a better platform for mobile gaming, with possibilities like blue
Re:Why is the GBA the center of portable gaming? (Score:3, Insightful)
Not to try and actively bash you here, but as far as general market data and public opinion appears, you are in a microscopic minority.
By way of an example [the-magicbox.com] or two [the-magicbox.com], the hardware sales for the GBA and GBA SP combined are outstripping even the PS2 in both the US and Japan.
Contrary to what you may think by browsing some of the bigger gaming message boards, many people play the system/games they do because it's FUN, not becau
Re:Why is the GBA the center of portable gaming? (Score:3, Interesting)
It's not portable gaming - the GBA is current undisputed heavyweight, and the next wave will be either the DS or the PSP, no question - but rather it's about pervasive, connected gaming. In that field, things like the GO Game [thegogame.com] in the US are a lot closer to what we're talking about. Mobile gaming is mostly much bigger in Japan [bbc.co.uk] and is entirely cell-phone
Re:Why is the GBA the center of portable gaming? (Score:1)
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Errr... (Score:1, Redundant)
Why?
Re:Why? (Score:3, Interesting)
Dad, are we there yet?
Is it much farther, Dad?
Dad, how much farther is it?
Where are we Dad?
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Real life pacman... (Score:3, Interesting)
Yet another thing to lose when the tough guys come rolling...
Re:Real life pacman... (Score:1, Funny)
Yeah, but where are you possibly gonna find pills on the streets of New York that make you feel invincible???
Re:Real life pacman... (Score:2)
The local crack dealer would be a good start.
Great (Score:3, Funny)
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Beep, beep. "We are within 100 metres of your bus stop!"
Handy for travellers... (Score:5, Interesting)
I can think of market that this might really appeal to... Backpackers and other travellers. Lots of gamers buy a GBA when travelling for a long time (something to do on the plane, etc). If they could use it when they get to their destination to help find their way around then I guess a fair number of nerdy backpackers would pay for one.
I know I would have killed for one of these when I was in London a little while ago. I kept getting lost at four in the morning in some maze of lanes near Soho, with my guidebook sitting on the couch where I was staying. A GBA is light and easy to carry/store, I'd rather haul that around than my Lonely Planet guide.
It seems like there's some sort of internal memory in the unit, in which case it should be able to simply download new maps (via USB maybe?). This would rock if you were travelling through Europe and staying in lots of large towns, for example. Just grab the next map at an internet café and you're set.
This is to say nothing of the possibilities with regards to GPS gaming. I can think of a bunch, especially if the games can be downloaded and localised. Among the more annoying/money making: Advertisers could have you unlock extra features of a game (secret Pokemon, etc) when you enter one of their stores...
Re:Handy for travellers... (Score:2)
Re:Handy for travellers... (Score:3, Interesting)
Why would a backpacker want to deal with water damage and fragile connections? For about the same price, get a handheld map GPS that is waterproof and floats. I use a handheld GPS. If I want to connect it to a laptop or handheld, I can connect the cable, but a GPS that does not work when your gameboy dies doesn't seem very useful. The ability to interconnect is nice. Leaving some weight home and still having a useful tool is even better.
Re:Handy for travellers... (Score:2)
Final Fantasy Tactics. 'Nuff said. But there's also Fire Emblem, Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros 3 (worst game numbering ever!), Kirby, Advance Wars 1&2, I could go on...
Just 'cause you're seeing the world doesn't mean you need to go without games. Travelling can be amazing, but there's long, boring periods where a waterproof GPS (that may or may not be able to have maps uploaded to it) really isn't as much fun
Re:Handy for travellers... (Score:2)
I guess the point I was trying to make, is if I want to leave the Game Boy home and take just the GPS, I can still use a stand alone handheld GPS but not with the Game Boy dongle. Most stand alone handheld GPS units have an output so they can be tethered
Re:Handy for travellers... (Score:3, Insightful)
Why would a backpacker want to deal with water damage and fragile connections? For about the same price, get a handheld map GPS that is waterproof and floats. I use a handheld GPS.
LOL... the parent's use of the word "backpacker" is different from what we who actually get into the backcountry and away from civilization. We call those with backpacks "travelers" and those with suitcases "tourists". Well, whatever you call them, it's highly unlikey they will need something
Re:Handy for travellers... (Score:2)
Those who are pedestrians on city streets rarely would have need of a GPS. I assumed backpacking meant no street signs and through streets. Oh well, that's what I get by posting on
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Translation: (Score:5, Insightful)
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The truth of the matter is that I just came across the gadget from gcadvanced.com, and I thought it would be cool to mention it to Slashdot.
I have a rather extensive knowledge of the GBA hardware, as I homebrew some stuff on the console. It just kind of goes with the territory. I don't have anything to really show for it though, as all my projects are still works in progress. The truth of t
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Right now I am just trying to find time to finish coding my mapping tools, and then I am going to finish my background class, and performance tweak absolutely anything that isn't nailed down. From there I can actually start making a real game. My biggest enemy right now is work... (10 hours a day, 5 days a
as useful as... (Score:3, Insightful)
It's about as useful as... any basic handheld GPS unit. I don't have much use for one myself, but a fair number of people seem to.
WHY? (Score:1, Insightful)
Less money and smaller total size.
And it works.
no applications need apply (Score:3, Interesting)
For years, I've driven with a triple-A card and a statewide mapbook on hand. I've seldom actually used either, but having them affords me a certain (justified or not) peace of mind in plunging into new automotive adventures.
GPS/maps increase that same sort of assurance, and this gizmo seems to significantly commoditize the technology. I suspect that lack of a specific application won't matter.
I knew it! (Score:1)
Re:I knew it! (Score:3, Informative)
Dude! Trade that in. Eveready makes a nice folding LED reading/tent light. (it looks like a miniture folding flouresent lantern) It claims 200 hours on a set of batteries. I can't verify the claim as I'm still on my first set of batteries from last summer.
Re:I knew it! (Score:2)
Re:I knew it! (Score:2)
Don't bet on it. The battery is still a chemical reaction. It may get 100 cycles in daily operation, but I don't think the shelf life is anywhere near 100 years. I remember when Lithium cells came out many years ago. They were great because they had up to a 10 year shelf life. It was great for the flashlight next to the fuse box. All too often a regular flashlight on a shelf
Pokemon world just got alot bigger (Score:2, Interesting)
It wouldn't surprize me for them to use the GPS (if they also do it with the DS) so you can wander from tokyo and each area will have different pokemon. It could even make the area around you and turn it into a map (think diablo 2 style but with real stuff). Hell they cou
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Re:Pokemon world just got alot bigger (Score:1)
kid playing Phantoma (Lain reference)?
It's about time (Score:5, Funny)
Some uses... (Score:2)
Useful (Score:3, Insightful)
Perhaps those commenters deriding the effort haven't bothered to read the site - that's just my speculation, but it wouldn't surprise me - oops, now I'm getting into flaimbait territory.
Re:Useful (Score:3, Insightful)
People aren't really saying that it's junk, as much as that it's pointless.
A handheld GPS unit goes for $90. This thing goes for $200. Even if you want a color screen, etc, etc you can get that for about the same price AND you don't need a gameboy.
If this thing was $50 it would be cool, but for $200, it's just not worth it. It's like
PRICE? (Score:5, Insightful)
It seems to me that add-on gadgets for PDA's or the GBA should be *CHEAPER* than stand alone versions. They don't have to include the screen, buttons or in some cases a CPU.
Why do add-ons cost *MORE*?
Re:PRICE? (Score:2)
The cost of components is such a small part of the price. Most of the cost is in design and implementation. Also, it looks to me like they're trying to milk it for all they can. Their reasoning is probably "if a stand alone GPS goes for $300, we can sell OURS for $200 and get a profitable segment of the mar
Re:PRICE? (Score:2)
Hell, the Garmin GPS watch can be had for as little as $99!
Re:PRICE? (Score:2)
Heh. Damn. All the more proof that they really don't understand the market they're aiming at.
Re:PRICE? (Score:1)
Ummm... (Score:2, Insightful)
It would be especially good if all the products would be featured in separate stories!
maybe theyre just aiming at price? (Score:1)
Cheaper ways to GPS (Score:1)
Cool idea, but unless they cut the price in half and start making cool games for it (and, I think GPS games will have their day in the sun soon...) this isn't going to fly.
Re:Cheaper ways to GPS (Score:1)
Like I said, the only advantage I could see to the GBA version is if they had some killer games that used it. If you where just going to use it for mapping, you could by a better system for half the price.
pourm. (Score:1)
Way Too EXPENISIVE (Score:3, Insightful)
This company have are betting that people will pay roughly TWICE the price of a standard GPS unit purely for the novelty of being able to use their Gameboy.
Yet another company that just Doesn't Get It.
Seriously, someone should set up a forum where clueless, middle-aged marketing men can float their pricing strategies before shooting themselves in the foot like this.
Game input? (Score:1)
very cool (Score:1)
Imagine a game that was effected by where you were.
You could have kids exploring libraries and museums to find a rare item or a level boss. This could be very cool.
Re:very cool (Score:1)
And the game you are talking about is Boktai. It's also out in North America now. =)
Lost with gameboy (Score:3, Funny)
Obviously, you've never been lost in the jungle with your Gameboy.
The incognito war-driver (Score:3, Interesting)
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I heard rumors of this a couple months ago... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:I heard rumors of this a couple months ago... (Score:2)
http://www.redskymobile.com/index.cfm?Section=S
GPS w/GBA (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Very useful (Score:1)