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North Korea Angered Over Ghost Recon 2 227

Fennario writes "According to Stars and Stripes Pacific's translation of a North Korean government newspaper article, UbiSoft's forthcoming Ghost Recon 2 videogame, which envisions a near-future North Korea/China conflict with US involvement, has already attracted the reclusive country's attention. In a curt review, a North Korean government-run newspaper called the game proof of U.S. warmongering. 'Through propaganda, entertainment and movies,' read a recent online commentary in the Tongil Newspaper. Americans 'have shown everyone their hatred for us. This may be just a game to them now, but a war will not be a game for them later. In war, they will only face miserable defeat and gruesome deaths.' Given the steep learning curve of previous incarnations of Ghost Recon, it's conceivable many may face miserable defeat and gruesome deaths anyhow."
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North Korea Angered Over Ghost Recon 2

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  • by darkmayo ( 251580 ) on Friday June 25, 2004 @10:36AM (#9527752)
    Yadda yadda yadda yadda SHUTUP N. KOREA.

    Video games don't dictate foreign policy, Kim Jong-il needs to put a sock in it.
  • by Weh ( 219305 ) on Friday June 25, 2004 @10:38AM (#9527771)
    Most of the wars in this list [erols.com] of 20th century wars don't have any videogames. Maybe I should send the link to some game-makers.
  • by blueZhift ( 652272 ) on Friday June 25, 2004 @10:44AM (#9527833) Homepage Journal
    From what I've heard in the past, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Kim Jung-Il is an avid gamer.Yeah, he's kinda nutz too, but he actually does seem to pay attention to pop culture and such. Heck, he may be playing copy of Ghost Recon 2 right now. I'll bet he beats his homies all the time, or else!

    • Re:An Avid Fan? (Score:2, Interesting)

      by ronfar ( 52216 )
      I think Kim Jong-Il probably prefers Destroy All Monsters: Melee if his taste in movies is anything to go by:

      The producer from hell [guardian.co.uk]

      The North Korean dictator Kim Jong-il has a passion for cinema. But he could never find a director to realise his vision. So he kidnapped one from the South, jailed him and fed him grass, then forced him to shoot a socialist Godzilla. Now, for the first time, Shin Sang-ok tells the full story of his bizarre dealings with - and eventual flight from - the world's most danger

      • Kim Jong-il continues to issue bold words of guidance to his film-makers. His words are reprinted on a gigantic placard outside the Revolutionary Museum of the Ministry of Culture on the outskirts of Pyongyang: "Make more cartoons."

        Perhaps he would prefer videogames that are cell-shaded?

        • Here's a movie review:

          Stomp Tokyo: Pulgasari [stomptokyo.com]

          I like the way Kim Jong-Il turned the Marxist version of the historic class struggle into a monster movie. (***Caution Spoilers:*** I. E. Like capitalism, Pulgasari fights the evil king (aristocracy) on behalf of the peasantry, but after defeating him turns on the working class....) I just wish it was available on DVD...

        • [Kim Jong-il continues to issue bold words of guidance to his film-makers. His words are reprinted on a gigantic placard outside the Revolutionary Museum of the Ministry of Culture on the outskirts of Pyongyang: "Make more cartoons."]

          Perhaps he would prefer videogames that are cell-shaded?


          More likely, he's trying to get a piece of the recent anime explosion. Though somehow, given his track record in direction and screenwriting (judging solely from this thread), I doubt many people would want to watch hi
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 25, 2004 @10:45AM (#9527857)
    So I guess by the same rationale that because of Full Throttle all bikers are bad.

    Day of the Tentacle: Weird green and purple blobs are evil and want to take over the world

    Leisure Suit Larry: men only care about sex (ok, maybe they're right...)

    Grand Theft Auto: It's totally ok to kill a hooker as long as no cop sees you do it.

    Worms: Worms are bad creature and I should use wind direction and missle bomb loft to kill them in the most efficent manner.

    UT: Other people are only good for cannon fodder

    I could keep going...
    hey NORTH KOREA, IT'S A FUCKING GAME. I highly doubt that every game that's ever been produced over seas portrays Americans in a good light, but do you see us complaining? Hell no, because we are too busy trying to get "kill all haitians" removed from our games (because haitians are a good and kind people who deserve no ill-respect).
  • by hal2814 ( 725639 ) on Friday June 25, 2004 @11:01AM (#9528055)
    "U.S. warmongering"?

    Is this North Korean gov't-run paper aware that UbiSoft is not an arm of the American gov't? I could see if America's Army had a similar storyline due to its US Army ties, but this is a Tom Clancy game.

    Even if the paper is referring to US citizens instead of the US govt, this game isn't something that a large percentage of our general population will play. This game will be played by video game players who like war games. How much of our population is that? I imagine it's somewhere around 5% - 10% at most. Also, these games seem to me to have no bearing on players' opinions of real war situations. I imagine there will be some people who would be very upset about a US invasion of North Korea who would still enjoy this game, because they have the ability to separate reality from fantasy.
    • YOU don't get it. (Score:5, Interesting)

      by clambake ( 37702 ) on Friday June 25, 2004 @11:25AM (#9528343) Homepage
      "U.S. warmongering"?

      Is this North Korean go>v't-run paper aware that UbiSoft is not an arm of the American gov't?


      If you ever have the chance to actually watch the NK news or read it's papers, EVERYTHING is further proof of the US's warmongering. If it rains next Tuesday, it's proof of the US's warmongering. If a French guy eats a taco while on vacation in Mexico, it's proof of the US's warmongering. If something sitting on some guy's desk is a particular shade of red... well, you get the idea.

      It's actually quite entertaining to read.
      • If you ever have the chance to actually watch the NK news or read it's papers, EVERYTHING is further proof of the US's warmongering. If it rains next Tuesday, it's proof of the US's warmongering. If a French guy eats a taco while on vacation in Mexico, it's proof of the US's warmongering. If something sitting on some guy's desk is a particular shade of red... well, you get the idea.

        Maybe that has something to do with the USA invading two countries recently, both times without the full approval or back

    • You are right that they don't get it. Anything of substance that is produced in N. Korea is produced by the government. It is easy to see how they might assume, or pretend to assume, that any game coming out here has the approval of the government.

      The North Korean leadership are a bunch of inbred wackos that live in their own reality in which all Americans are aware of them and are focusing their efforts on destroying them. In reality most Americans couldn't find North Korea on a map and never give the country a moment's thought.

    • by Anonymous Coward
      UbiSoft is also not an American company.... UbiSoft is French.
    • Like all good dictators, they don't want the people to get it. People who live under oppression with spoon fed government media long enough tend to be disbeleive that it's any better anywhere else. The NK government knows full well that Ghost Recon isn't a government project (at least SOMEbody in there has to have enough brains to know that and delude the people who matter), but the people aren't likely to be intimately aware of the inner working of capitalist systems.

      The US posuturing over Iraq and Afghan
    • UbiSoft is French / Candian. Main Office in France, with a significant branch developer in Canada.
    • Incredible, isn't it?

      You'd think that a propaganda outlet run by the worst regime on this planet would be honest and fair... Who else is left to trust!

  • The really interesting thing about this is the insinuation that China would be NK's enemy, and that the US would be on the Chinese side in this conflict. It presumes a lot about China (eg: China really wants to thaw, to become a part of the capitalist world, despite what they say), and a lot about North Korea (the idea that an individual or faction in the military could actually take power from the all-powerful Kim Family Regime).

    As a furriner living in South Korea, I'd be interested to see what part South
    • It presumes [...] a lot about North Korea (the idea that an individual or faction in the military could actually take power from the all-powerful Kim Family Regime).

      Aaaaaah, now it makes sense. I was wondering why NK's government would be so uptight about it (aside from the totalitarianism thing, of course), until I read this. Thanks.
  • by chrismcdirty ( 677039 ) on Friday June 25, 2004 @11:16AM (#9528233) Homepage
    I understand it's a Tom Clancy game. Even so, it was a French/French-Canadian publishing house that made it all work, so NK might as well call Quebec and France Warmongerers, too. Since they're obviously supporting the idea by having one company produce a game with anti-NK sentiments.
    • And I wish the Canadians would stop. Damn war-like canadians. First they invade the US (years ago, but the wound is still fresh) then they start this carp. Next thing you know they are going to want thier own culture fer chrissakes. Problem is the Canadian military gets almost 65% of thier GNP - and who can fight those numbers? Let alone the million men, women, beavers, and moose that that kind of money supplies. I myself have been stip searched and handed over to an otter for a plaything at a border crossi
  • Does anyone hear that? The world's smallest violin? ... No?

    Huh. Maybe it's because they don't allow that kind of music in North Korea, since it would speak against the glory of the supreme leader.

    Maybe we should play the world's smallest violin for the world's smallest violin.
  • by raskolnik ( 101795 ) on Friday June 25, 2004 @11:51AM (#9528651)
    From Pandemic's Site:

    Mercenaries is a revolutionary 3rd person action-shooter game set in the near future and inspired by real world events. On the eve of a historic reunification of North and South Korea, a ruthless general stages a military coup to take control of North Korea and threatens the world with nuclear war. As one of the top operatives for a private mercenaries company called Executive Operations, you have been called in to help collect bounties on the general's top military and scientific advisors.

    http://www.lucasarts.com/games/mercenaries/
  • To them their statements may seem like a show of bravado, but it's really just trolling.

    I wonder if Kim Jong Il is a regular troll here on Slashdot.
  • by TheAdventurer ( 779556 ) on Friday June 25, 2004 @12:38PM (#9529197)
    In other news, Satan has filed an official complaint against ID Ssoftware for the unfair and unlicensed portrayal of his dark minions in the DOOM series. ID Software released a brief statement, saying "IDDQD, motherfucker!"
  • by Reapy ( 688651 )
    I read the headline and though "oh wow, they are upset it's going to be 3rd person too". My bad...
  • what the rest of the world seems to forget is that we have freedom for media, and government policy doesn't dictate what tv shows/books/movies/games can be about. if north korea is mistaking a freaking video game for an actual threat, then they should be afraid of game developers, not our government or armed forces.
  • I thought UBI was a canadian company...
  • Congratulations, North Korea. You've finally worked out that America is a warmongering nation [thirdworldtraveler.com] with an extensive corporate propaganda system [foxnews.com] operating through movies [btinternet.com], news media [fair.org] and even video games [americasarmy.com].

    This is not news. Many of us noticed this years ago [thirdworldtraveler.com]. And picking a French-made video game as an example just makes the whole thing seem ludicrous to the US citizens who could stop the whole process if they really wanted to.
  • On a side note, most gamers will be angered by it too.

    In a classic case of dumbing down for consoles, they're replacing the incredibly innovative gameplay features of the original with a more SOCOM style feel for the sequel.

    The original was brilliant in its use of the whole unit. You could toggle between troops, setting up truly complex strategies. No longer did you have to deal with AI companions who'd never display human level intelligence - you could simply swap to them, position them, use them for the

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