Word Up 208
theodp writes "Depending on your perspective, the National Scrabble Championship is a major sporting event, an unrivalled intellectual competition, or the world's biggest dork-fest. So says Slate's Dan Wachtell, who turned to an anagram-drilling Unix program to gain an edge on the 850+ competitors. While hardly mainstream, competitive Scrabble is getting newfound attention thanks to the publication of Word Freak and release of Word Wars."
Word To You, Bro (Score:5, Interesting)
I like Scrabble so much, I keep running down the battery on my PDA playing the scrabble-like game on it. It gave me the low battery warning this morning so I had to read during lunch.
I'll give these a look though, particularly Word Wars as even AVP wasn't as exciting as most alternative film is. Truth has a habit of being far more interesting than fiction, what with the boring repetitiveness of formula cinema.
To Scrabble beginners, here's some advice: Make the best of the least letters. High scores can be achieved with 2 and 3 letter words and leave fewer openings for opponents. Study the Scrabble dictionary between games. RE, LA, NU are words ;-)
When I heard that the end of wooden tiles was coming, I dashed down to the local game shop and scored one of those sets. I can't imagine playing this with plastic bits, not after my dad taught me the game ages ago. Call me tradition bound.
Dork certainly is a fitting description of someone who turns to a computer to help them with words. It's a game of pitting intellect vs intellect, not intellect vs 'Fred'*.
* Fred is a cycling term for wannabe, but with a strongly negative connotation
Re:Word To You, Bro (Score:1)
Re:Word To You, Bro (Score:3, Insightful)
From the article:
Re:Word To You, Bro (Score:5, Informative)
At the top of the article is a small menu with days of the week. Click on 'Mon' or http://slate.com/id/2105210/entry/2105211/ [slate.com]. Took me a bit to find it too.
Re:Word To You, Bro (Score:2)
Re:Word To You, Bro (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm sure Scrabble ended up being a significant confidence booster for me, particularly when I started winning a few games.
Whatever the case, it was a cool feeling for a kid to be able to get a feeling of being "just as smart" as his parents. (Hey, they may have thrown the game in my favor, but who's to say? I don't suspect they did, but nevertheless, it was a cool feeling.)
Oh yeah, and three cheers for wooden tiles!
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Re:Word To You, Bro (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Word To You, Bro (Score:4, Funny)
I am glad (Score:1)
Re:I am glad (Score:3, Funny)
I was taught some kid version of checkers, back in the day, and went on a family vacation to the Keewenau Peninsula (Eagle River, MI) where this whitehaired old hotel owner (The Swank Hotel -- his last name was Swank) was the county checkers champion. He schooled me and gave me no breaks. Never underestimate old men with board games, like checkers, chess, dominos or Scrabble, especially where they have months to pass (bet
Re:I am glad (Score:2)
Re:I am glad (Score:2)
Unix Program For Scrabble? (Score:5, Funny)
L
B O R I N G
S
P A T H E T I C
R
S A D N E S S
Re:Unix Program For Scrabble? (Score:2)
Scrabble assistant programs are somewhat useful. You enter the letters that you have and it provides a list of possible words that use all or nearly all of the letters. Good for reminding those obscure words, but you're probably better off browsing through the dictionary, reading books or solving the daily crossword.
Re:Unix Program For Scrabble? (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.thepixiepit.co.uk/scrabble/index.htm
You mean like
http://www.a2zwordfinder.com/main.html
?
|>oug
Spelling Bee (Score:3, Interesting)
ESPN telecasts and I always watch it
Its pretty entertaining actually in a nerdy kind of way. (Isn't that the reason we are all on slashdot!)
And Bill Simmons (The Sports Guy on ESPN) wrote an interesting diary [go.com] too.
Re:Spelling Bee (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Spelling Bee (Score:2)
don't forget the National Spelling Bee
And its wonderful dictionary, with words like ninnyish [reference.com]. I lost in my 6th grade school finals on that, and I'm still pissed about it. They could have at least picked words that exist [reference.com]!
The pinnacle of acheivement (Score:5, Funny)
The pinnacle of something, anyhow (Score:2)
Apparently the grand champions of this game take it a little too seriously to be happy [suntimes.com], but I suppose the same can be said of a lot of endevours.
... and the CSI episode (Score:4, Informative)
... And the CSI episode Bad Words [tvtome.com]
Re:... and the CSI episode (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Girls!!!??? (Score:3, Funny)
Er, most scrabble freaks ARE girls (Score:2, Interesting)
Women tend to like word games more than men do. Scrabble competitions are mainly composed of housewives reinvigorated after a life of raising kids by this game.
It's what bridge used to be.
The problem is that these are saggy, married girls. *sigh*
Re:Er, most scrabble freaks ARE girls (Score:2)
Um, I don't think so (Score:5, Funny)
Do you remember college? The arts classes you detested? Those classes enrolled humanities majors -- people who studied history, philosophy, theater, English literature -- you know, the people who used language and social skills to learn. Remember all the hotties in there? How eager they were to discuss Kant, feminism, and the impact of the Impressionist movement on French Romantic literature? Remember how insecure those girls made you feel?
Here's a hint: those girls knew how to play Scrabble. And read Lord Chatterley's Lover. Think of it as CounterStrike for people who can carry on a conversation.
(Oh, and Lord Chatterley's Lover is kind of like this weird encrypted ASCII porn. It, like, uses your imagination to generate images! And girls dig it!)
Re:Um, I don't think so (Score:3, Funny)
You forget (Score:2)
Thats why I show up to parties late.
See, using ones brain to get Real sex.
I'm sure the book was as good though...[yeah right]
Re: (Score:3, Funny)
"Lord" Chatterley? (Score:2)
I am fairly certain that was 'Lady Chatterley's Lover', if you were thinking of the scandalous-in-1928 D.H. Lawrence novel. Apparently there was a male version (Lord vice Lady) but that was published the wacky 1970s - NFI.
Play now! (Score:3, Informative)
see here [themaninblue.com]
I just stumbled upon it the other day, looking for ways to practice to beat my mother-in-law
Big point scrabble words... (Score:4, Informative)
There are much better words out there, though - /.'ers, what are your suggestions?
Re:Big point scrabble words... (Score:4, Interesting)
Words from any language are acceptable. Depending on who in my family is playing any given game can involve up to ten languages (more if you count things like Ye Olde English and Latin).
Gets kind of interesting at times!
Re:Big point scrabble words... (Score:2)
What? Flocci's not a word!
Yeah it is.
Is not! Prove it!
It's the plural of floccus of course.
"Floccus of course", schmoccus a horse, I gotcher "floccus of course" right here!
Why yes, yes you do, right on the top of your pointy little head...
[sound of keys clicking]
Doh!
Re:Big point scrabble words... (Score:2)
Re:Big point scrabble words... (Score:2)
Look, buddy, when I've 4 of the letter "A" I start talking Hawaiian damn fast!
Re:Big point scrabble words... (Score:2)
does fanjita count ?
Re:Big point scrabble words... (Score:2)
Note: this is not an overture.
Re:Big point scrabble words... (Score:2, Interesting)
You Roc (Score:2, Funny)
Liked ROC, myself, until an architect friend pulled ADZ on me .. the bastard!
Re:You Roc (Score:2)
DZO too I think. Great for expanding on ZO.
Also, I think BRR and HMM are valid in the Commonwealth comps. I know all the 2-letter words pretty well (CH, ST, HM, QI, etc), and a fair few from the 3-letter lists.
Re:You Roc (Score:2, Interesting)
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The thing that frustrates me the most about that damn thing is how inconsistent it is. I have a
OED or nothin'.
Re:Big point scrabble words... (Score:2)
Re:Big point scrabble words... (Score:2, Informative)
Nope. Scores zero, because the Scrabble board is only fifteen letters wide. That wouldn't even fit on one of the new Super Scrabble boards. The highest scoring word in the tournament lexicon is OXYPHENBUTAZONE, which could score 1778 points under a rather unlikely set of circumstances.
Re:Big point scrabble words... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Big point scrabble words... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Big point scrabble words... (Score:2)
Re:Big point scrabble words... (Score:2)
The highest triple-triple I've actually played was REDWOoDS through the first D (the second O was a blank) for 194.
Another high play came with its own poem:
The first blank is an N
The second a U
The word is UnQuOTED
For one twenty-two
(It was a double word score with the Q on the triple letter score.)
Re:Big point scrabble words... (Score:2)
slashdot team (Score:2)
We need a team of the greatest geeks ever to win it in our name.... but then they might stop reposting the same articles with thousands of speeling mistaks and we'd lose our respect for them
Re:slashdot team (Score:2)
Best Online Scrabble (Score:5, Informative)
From the website:
The ISC is the best place on the Internet to play Scrabble in a relaxed friendly environment. You can compete at your own level in English, French, Romanian, Italian, or Dutch while meeting new people and making friends from around the world.
Right now there are 2138 players logged into the ISC and 792 games in progress.
Scribble (Score:2)
Re:Best Online Scrabble (Score:2)
Obligatory Critic Quote (Score:5, Funny)
Marty-"That's not a word"
Duke - "(dials phone) Get Webster on the phone. Noah, how ya doing? It's Duke. How much would it cost to make Quyzbuk a word? (pause) I don't what means, uh, how about a big problem? Great! How about that other word I invented, Dukelicious? No ones using it? What a Duketastrophe."
Red Dwarf Followup (Score:2)
LISTER: (Pointing to letters in his rack) That letter, that letter, and that letter. (Pointing to the middle of the board) There.
We see that he is having the first go and we see his rack which has the letters D-A-T-E left on it.
CAT: Hey! I've got you now! (Holding out his letters up for LISTER to see.) Jozxyqk.
LISTER: That's not a word.
CAT: It's a cat word.
LISTER attempts to pronounces the cat "word."
CAT: That's not how you pronounce it!
LISTER: What's it mean?
CAT: It's the sound you
Simpsons (Score:3)
Re:Simpsons (Score:2)
Bart: Kwyjibo. Uh... a big, dumb, balding North American ape. With no chin.
Marge: And a short temper.
Homer: I'll show you a big, dumb, balding ape!
Bart: Uh oh. Kwyjibo on the loose!
sporting event (Score:2, Interesting)
Not a sport, but... (Score:5, Insightful)
It's the same reason that ESPN's hit such a nerve with World Series of Poker. What normally isn't that great to watch can be made a lot more fun when you're 1) in the know and 2) have overly excited and knowledgeable commentators guiding you through it.
I can only imagine what else they'd try to cover.
Re:Not a sport, but... (Score:2)
My favorite is how ESPN2 manages to cover the Running of the Bulls in Pamplona with a constant stream of statistics. ("Age: 3 years, Home: Malaga, Weight: 1843 lbs" or, at the end, "Time: 6:02, Trampled: 22, Gored: 6")
I still can't believe people watch 30 hours of poker, though, let alone watch it over and over for a year. And the worst part is that it's displaced the World's Strongest Man contest...
Re:Not a sport, but... (Score:2)
I regretted a lot not being able to watch it, but apparently they also did great broadcasting the Kasparov/X3D Fritz chess match late last year:
http://www.x3dchess.com/ [x3dchess.com]
Re:Not a sport, but... (Score:2, Informative)
By the way, if you want to see how Dan did at the NSC, or play through dozens of top-level games, check
Re:Not a sport, but... (Score:2)
Obligitory Simpsons Quote (Score:5, Funny)
Twenty-two points, plus triple-word-score, plus fifty points
for using all my letters. Game's over. I'm outta here. [gets up]
Homer: [grabs Bart with his left hand, holding a banana in his right]
Wait a minute, you little cheater!
You're not going anywhere until you tell me what a kwyjibo is.
Bart: Kwyjibo. Uh... a big, dumb, balding North American ape. With no chin.
Marge: And a short temper.
Homer: I'll show you a big, dumb, balding ape! [leaps for Bart]
Bart: [making his escape] Uh oh. Kwyjibo on the loose!
Don't say fuck or bugger (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Don't say fuck or bugger (Score:2)
The Scrabble Advisory Board?!? Man, and I thought that *I* never got laid
Re:Don't say fuck or bugger (Score:2)
It's too bad, because making something interesting could be enhanced with a little realism.
ESPN Commentator: "A couple of our viewers have called in to say that men's gymnastics is a pussy sport.
"We're here with Joe who is going to attempt to do a hand stand on the still rings."
(Joe scowls, slapping white dust onto his palms, getting ready to show the world that this gymnastics ain't nuthin....)
"Joe is preparing to jump up and grab the rings. He's swinging.....higher.....higher......he's making his
I thought you said he used a UNIX program? (Score:2, Funny)
I responded with GEY for 33 to go ahead 371-353. I have no idea what GEY means, in case you are wondering.
Has anyone... (Score:2, Funny)
SLASHDOT = 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 4 + 2 + 1 + 1 = 12points
Now thats one of the lowest scoring words...
Re:Has anyone... (Score:5, Interesting)
Or, assuming you had one of the letters, say the 'L', on the board in the right spot, say the lower right hand of the board, this could end up as:
Which comes out to 144 points. Not too bad for slashdot!
Remember: In Scrabble, placement is everything.
You also get 50 points extra... (Score:2)
So a grand total of 194 points.
Nice try (Score:2)
you get ZERO! hahah hahaha
Re:You also get 50 points extra... (Score:2)
Nice catch!
Hey, its on TV (Score:3, Funny)
Difficulty (Score:2, Funny)
Should we welcome our new, dictionary-using Unix overlords?
Why (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Why (it is part of the slashdot ecosystem) (Score:3, Insightful)
I thought so at first, but consider the source of the insult. This is Slashdot, you have to toe the line and like what everyone else likes. Obviously many of the rubes who haunt this place aren't very well rounded people. They think spelling is unimportant. They love anime, Star Trek, LOTR, and acronyms.
Or perhaps this story is just following a trend I have noticed. Slight jabs w
Obsolete phrase (Score:4, Interesting)
"Mainstream" was rendered obsolete when search engines were invented. There is no such thing as "mainstream" or "mass market" any more. Detergent is a mass market. Everything else is non-mainstream.
Re:Obsolete phrase (Score:2)
Anagram-drilling Unix program (Score:2, Interesting)
On that same not, how are computers at playing Scrabble anyway? I would think that they'd be pretty good at it, since they could just generate a list of potential anagrams, check them in a dictionary, and then use a maximize function which would search a couple moves deep for the best scoring path.
Re:Anagram-drilling Unix program (Score:2)
On the other hand, a program has the advantage of being able to remember which tiles have been played and which are in the bag without having to wor
Re:Anagram-drilling Unix program (Score:2)
Literati (Score:2)
a pretty good scrabble clone. At any given time there can be more than 10,000 people playing. Although sometimes it will not allow you to use words that dictionary.com (the site it uses to check) will find.
UNIX program? Easy! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:UNIX program? Easy! (Score:5, Interesting)
This means that the lookup for any combination of characters on the board / in the rack is blazingly fast. Want to check the string 'getgstsd' for validity? Well, g passes, ge passes, get passes, getg... Bzzzzt. Wrong, no valid words down this path! Next please.
This is MUCH faster than a traditional binary search, and when you are checking typically thousands of existences per valid board location per move, it's worth it.
All this ignores the nasty recursive algorithms to identify valid placement options, considering that placing a word may create invalid words along the opposite axis - so any extra words created need to be checked for validity too.
I ended up writing a program to play scrabble and it used a feedback mechanism on several criteria (number of tiles used, place in game, ahead or behind status, number of premium squares used, number of premuim squares opened up etc) to weight future decisions. I'm a very good player and this program very quickly destroyed me. It was fascinating though to watch it play itself.
Back in the day it was running on a 486dx2/66 and took about 2 seconds per move so it was possible to watch the games develop.
I still have the code somewhere (in PASCAL!)... I really should break it back out and get it to compile on something new.
Cheers - N
Re:UNIX program? Easy! (Score:2, Informative)
1.2.3
A.N.D
L.O.O
E.W.E
where 1 2 and 3 were empty squares, 1 would be tagged with {bdeghkmprstvwy}, 2 with {aeks} and 3 with {}, so that a word played horizontally would be constrained to have only those letters in the tagged squares. (SOWPODS lexicon)
Combined with t
Re:UNIX program? Easy! (Score:2, Informative)
two:
quixotic [sourceforge.net]
In fact, quixotic implements a more complex datastructure than a DAWG, called a GADDAG [gtoal.com] which allows exceedingly fast word building, starting in the middle of the word. This means that if you also have a list of all the anchor squares -- those squares where playing a tile automatically makes a syntactically valid play -- you can generate all possible plays given a rack without ever generating an illegal play.
My 800MHz powerbook finds moves fast enough that it's feasible to do a couple of p
Re:UNIX program? Easy! (Score:2)
Brian Sheppard wrote the Scrabble-playing program Maven. Maven consistently beats human Scrabble world champions. And the fun part is: the program is based mainly on statistical values for letter occurrences. This means that the English Maven can be converted into a foreign-language Maven, simply by loading the dictionary and let the computer generate the statistics for the dictionary. At his Ph.D. defense [unimaas.nl], Sheppard demonstrated this by loading a Dutch dictionary into the program,
I proposed that way (Score:3, Interesting)
When I proposed to her, it was via the ring in the tile bag.
I later found out that some crappy movie with JLo also had a Scrabble proposal in it, but I haven't seen said movie.
We play less Scrabble these days mainly due to less free time.
Where is a poll when you need it? (Score:2)
UGH (Score:3, Funny)
First of all, these people set up dates to play scrabble and then they meet up. In other words, they're commited to playing scrabble on, say, Sunday at 3pm, even though it's finally not a rainy weekend and the boyfriend wants to go to the beach and chill out, but no, she has to go play scrabble because she has a scrabble appointment.
This is unhealthy. Like I said, nothing wrong with a game of scrabble on a rainy afternoon but when the weather is nice the last thing you should be doing is sitting on your ass with fucking letter tiles.
Second, it destroys your brain. These people see a bunch of letter barf and see some random word in it. A normal person sees AHIVDLWVDIJBE and these sickos go wow I can spell "INTERCONTINETAL" with that. Quintuple letter score. You're not supposed to think like that. You're supposed to see AHIVDLWVDIJBE and say "you know what FUCK THIS I am going to the beach"
Okay I guess I am a bit bitter because I am dating the international scrabble champ or whateverthefuck and it's cutting into my beach time.
You can't spell that on television (Score:3, Interesting)
No unix.. but Have Spacesuit Will Travel? (Score:2)
More info on how ordinary mortals can train themselves to perform at this level, in particular how does he memorize words like gey without knowing what they mean? (Does he h
Re:No unix.. but Have Spacesuit Will Travel? (Score:2)
Eye hayt skrabable (Score:3, Funny)
Shirely eyem knot teh ownly
Elivs
Mod Parent +Funny (Score:2)
Made me laugh!
-kgj
Re:The beautiful thing about Scrabble (Score:2)
Sounds like something out of the movie Pi and also the practice known as 'Gemetia'.
This link [prophezine.com] may interest you :)
Re:Scrabble...a sporting event?!? (Score:2, Interesting)
Well, there is one Scrabble player who has won both the U.S. and Canadian National Championships, who was also a gold medallist at the International Mathematical Olympiad. But no, he's not big on sports.