Ubisoft CEO Speaks out Against EA Move 365
Gamespot is reporting that Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot has spoken out against EA's "hostile action". From the article: "Considering the industry practice of communicating informally about such decisions, we were disappointed, to say the very least, that EA chose not to inform us of their specific plans beforehand." Further, Voodoo Extreme is reporting that a financial report may suggest the French government is going to assist Ubisoft in staying out from under EA's thumb.
From the second article... (Score:5, Informative)
Due to very irritating interstitial advertisements, here is the text of the second article:
French Government To Protect Ubisoft From EA?
December 30, 2004 - An AFX Financial report suggests that the French government may take steps to protect Ubisoft from acquisition by EA, should they decide to expand their 19.9% ownership:
The heads of the studios fear that a purchase of Ubisoft by EA would lead to the disappearance of the last decision making centre in France for the video games industry, La Tribune added.
Ubisoft said last night it is not in talks 'at present' with EA about the US company's recent purchase of a stake. 'In light of recent news spread by the press, Ubisofts board of directors reiterates that, in the absence of information from Electronic Arts regarding its intentions, the latter's acquisition of 19.9 pct of the groups capital is unsolicited and currently considered as hostile,' the company said.
Les Echos newspaper reported yesterday that Ubisoft will gather together some of its largest shareholders next week in a bid to convince them not to throw their weight behind EA.
-- Andrew Burnes
Simple reason-lost French jobs / lost French power (Score:2, Insightful)
It is good that EU countries are now subject to the same buyout and then layoff trend that the USA went through in the 1980s.
The loss of companies that move out of France + the loss of jobs from buyout/layoffs will force France to actually support a pro-business environment instead of a entitlement burdened nanny state.
The euro has greatly facilitated free trade, free capital, and personal freedom.
Re:From the second article... (Score:3, Informative)
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Re:From the second article... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:From the second article... (Score:5, Insightful)
Think about that next time you reach for the cheap and ignorant jibes or the next time you celebrate Independence Day.
And... (Score:2)
the whole north american continent would be called Canada, which wouldnt be such a bad thing.
And... (Score:2)
The Canadians wouldn't get so irritated by being mistaken for Americans.
Re:From the second article... (Score:2)
Re:From the second article... (Score:2)
Or would you mod me "Troll"?
What is ignorant about what I said? They chopped off plenty of heads during their revolutionary period of bloodlust. Good for them. They went a little overboard, but oh well.
I know the name for the day is "Bastille Day". But, personally, I prefer "Le Chop off the Fucking Heads Day".
Re:Irrelevant? (Score:3, Informative)
And yet, Napoleon's goal (independent of his method) was to overthrow tyranny and spread the spirit of the French Revolution throughout Europe. Interesting to look at this in a modern context, eh?
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Re:From the second article... (Score:3, Funny)
That's guaranteed to be a big seller amongst the "disgruntled husbands" demographic. ;-)
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Just Talk (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Just Talk (Score:2)
WTO? (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes - the US is already upset over planes... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Yes - the US is already upset over planes... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Yes - the US is already upset over planes... (Score:5, Insightful)
Airbus receives Launch Aid in the form of interest based LOANS. These loans must be paid back to the respective government within 17 years of its inception, and must account for no more than 33% of the total development cost of the aircraft. This was agreed in the 1992 trans atlantic agreement, as was the clause that states that Airbus doesnt have to repay these loans if the aircraft fails to ship. So far, every loan lent to Airbus has been paid back within the terms laid down. Airbus does lease factories off of local governments at a favourable rate tho, but this isnt covered under hte 1992 agreement, and so is a gray area. This is not the same as getting tax cuts for relocating production tho.
Boeing isnt exactly the pure virgin dressed in white you think they are.
Re:Yes - the US is already upset over planes... (Score:2)
If I remember correctly, these only have to be paid back if the product under development with these loans turns a profit - kind of takes the risk out of business.
I also think the idea of tax-cuts as aid is a bit gray as well. If the tax rate was simply lower, it wouldn't be called a cut. That then asks what are the comparitive tax rates - something I'm not sure we should be getting into unless we want to form a world government.
Re:Yes - the US is already upset over planes... (Score:2)
There is more then just plane purchases. There also research projects with super high overhead, far higher then they should be. The missle shield project is one of them. Lots of corprate welfare there. A lot of a
Re:Yes - the US is already upset over planes... (Score:2)
Re:WTO? (Score:3, Informative)
Not if they play by the same rules as everyone else. They're looking to expand their ownership of the firm -- presumably so they have more control of the board and can reject the offer.
Re:WTO? (Score:2)
I think most reasonable people on either of the atlantic would say 'So what !'.
Re:WTO? (Score:2)
The question is. Why do governments constantly feel the need to help corporations to 'compete'. Isn't the whole point of capitalism to allow firms to compete fairly in a FREE MARKET. If a corporation can not compete it is, according to that theory,
Re:Sort of like the way they heavily subsidize air (Score:2)
Hahahahahahahhahahahaha
Good laugh.
Re:WTO? (Score:2, Informative)
As to whether or not that counts as "major"...
Re:WTO? (Score:2)
Except that it's completely destroying the economy in British Columbia.
Re:WTO? (Score:4, Informative)
The Byrd Amendment.
Re:WTO? (Score:5, Interesting)
Want to talk about unfair subsidy?
All that, because we don't require our lumber producers to purchase land before they log it; we simply lease crown land to them for a low price, and we get to maintain control over such land.
Re:Softwood Lumber (Score:2)
Re:WTO? (Score:2)
The U.S. does not require lumber producers to purchase land before they log it. The gov't does lease timber rights in National, State and other forests. The whole argument is over the phrase "low price". The U.S. contends that the Canadian gov't leases it too cheaply -- below market value.
I'm not saying who is rig
Re:WTO? (Score:2)
Re:WTO? (Score:2)
Duel (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Duel (Score:4, Funny)
What type of self respecting gamer gets up before the crack of noon.
Re:Duel (Score:2)
No, no, no... this is after all night frag session "warming up" for the big event. I just want the bawls concession.
Why complain? (Score:3, Funny)
French Government? Totally unnecessary! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:French Government? Totally unnecessary! (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:French Government? Totally unnecessary! (Score:2)
But what if da football players have Ditka on der side?
I'm thinking Fisher 0, Ditka and football players...147.
Da Bears.
Re:French Government? Totally unnecessary! (Score:2, Insightful)
Article submitters and Slashdot editors, please .. (Score:5, Insightful)
Who, what, where, when, why, and how
Re:Article submitters and Slashdot editors, please (Score:2)
Re:Article submitters and Slashdot editors, please (Score:5, Insightful)
It wouldn't have taken much to clarify that the "hostile action" was the sudden purchase of 20% of Ubisoft's shares by EA.
I've often been frustrated by similar submission, so I sympathize.
Re:Article submitters and Slashdot editors, please (Score:3, Informative)
There's a bunch of nuances involved with the whole thing, but thats the "for dummi
Re:Article submitters and Slashdot editors, please (Score:2)
The word "acquisition" doesn't even appear once in the summary. Thanks for the "for dummies" version; too bad that wasn't what was originally submitted!
Re:Article submitters and Slashdot editors, please (Score:3, Interesting)
There are quite a few companies out there who are run by a 30%(ish) controlling interest.
I see it now! (Score:2, Funny)
EA isn't about games (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:EA isn't about games (Score:2, Interesting)
Now slashdot is going to try and convince me EA=bad, UbiSoft=good, just like MS=bad, IBM=good.
It's 100% pure bullshit, and you'd have to be pretty simple-minded to think any corporate entity has your best interest as a gamer/consumer at heart.
As an aside, EA's employment practice
Re:EA isn't about games (Score:4, Interesting)
That's a very important factor in determining the relative evils of two game publishers.
Also, consider what the talent does. Will people with 10 or 15 years at the same studio decide to flee once McGames Inc is controlling things?
Re:EA isn't about games (Score:2)
I challenge you to find any company in the entertainment industry who cares more about product quality than they do profits.
There are plenty of such companies, just not many large ones. I watch a number of small gaming companies, and await their releases. Ambrosia is a good example, they make enough money to get by, obviously enjoy their work, and make some really, really fun games. For larger companies the best you can hope for is a culture that cares about their products and leadership that lets them
Re:EA isn't about games (Score:2)
Re:EA isn't about games (Score:2)
I'm glad you like it. I played the Mac version a few years ago and the original game years before that. I've never seen the Windows port. I agree about the annoyance of having to reload your pilot after being killed. Aside from that though, I don't recall any UI issues or menu problems. It does not drop out of fullscreen mode in the mac version. In any case it is a fun game with some real plot. Enjoy.
Re:EA isn't about games (Score:2)
This is what separates Westwood Studios from EA or even EALA.
This is the difference between being in a boardroom states away and being in another office a few feet away.
Re:EA isn't about games (Score:2)
I pick Pixar as a company that at least seems to want to have both and are prepared to put the time and effort into doing it.
Sure, crap sells, but sometimes so does quality.
TWW
First on the ball!!! (Score:3, Informative)
With Electronic Arts the new owner of almost 20 percent of Ubisoft, you might expect that company's leader to wobble a bit in the unexpected limelight. Yves Guillemot does anything but.
Just five days before Christmas, with many game industry staffers already on vacation, Electronic Arts dropped an explosive bit of news on the wires. In a short press release, it acknowledged having purchased an estimated $85-$100 million worth of Ubisoft shares.
The move--a surprise to the vast majority of industry observers--gave it a 19.9 percent ownership position in one of its most daunting competitors. Wedbush Morgan senior analyst Michael Pachter told GameSpot, "I think EA is interested in Ubisoft's development talent and in its Gameloft investment [in wireless games]."
But is that all? "I don't know if EA wants to take them out," Pachter said, "but given that Ubi has a pretty strong set of licenses and great development--with a more Euro-centric sales profile--it's a combination that makes sense from EA's perspective."
Pachter clearly assesed the stock acquisition as something less benign than how EA had earlier portrayed it. "EA is not in the business of making passive investments in public companies," Pachter concluded.
Regardless of its motives, the builders of famous franchises that include Madden and Medal of Honor now own a block of Ubisoft shares second in size only to the chunk owned by the company's founders, one of whom is its CEO and president, Yves Guillemot.
We spoke to Guillemot shortly after the transaction was announced.
GameSpot: Yves, to most observers, EA and Ubisoft are arch rivals who compete for market share, mind share, shelf space, and talent. It's hard to believe the two parties can work toward common goals. Assuming all regulatory issues are cleared, your board of directors will have to acknowledge EA's wishes as they might other shareholder's. How do you expect this marriage to get on?
Yves Guillemot: Although EA and Ubisoft are both leading game publishers, I wouldn't say we are arch rivals. All players in the industry compete for market share, shelf space, and talent, but as the past few months have shown, the market is growing, and the more outstanding titles that hit the shelves, the more the market grows. So getting great games out there is a common goal that all publishers share.
GS: So how do you read the move by Electronic Arts?
YG: I have stated on the record that I view this action on the part of EA as hostile.
GS: Do you see malevolence at its core?
YG: Until we have further information we cannot say what EA's goals might be.
GS: How does having EA as a shareholder affect the issue of disclosure, specifically company strategy?
YG: In terms of the company's confidential strategy, that information is not provided to any of our shareholders. This has always been our policy, and we have consistently shown ourselves worthy of the confidence of our shareholders.
GS: Are there remaining shares of the company that are vulnerable to acquisition by Electronic Arts, and if so, is Ubisoft management considering options if EA were to become a majority shareholder?
YG: Ubisoft is a publicly traded company, with 22.8 percent of its voting rights held by the company's founders. Of the remaining capital publicly held, 13 percent of voting rights are in the hands of financial institutions and 44.5 percent are in the hands of small shareholders. The management is studying all its options under several different scenarios.
GS: Given this twist in the company's timeline, what does the future hold for Ubisoft?
YG: For the immediate future, we are still looking forward to a record-breaking fourth quarter, with the release of several titles which you [in the press] also seem to be eagerly anticipating.
GS: What about the long-term outlook?
YG: When looking at the longer-term, our only concern is the
The solution is obvious. (Score:2, Funny)
an explanation about France... (Score:4, Interesting)
If you don't believe me look into the history of France Telecom [wikipedia.org] which purchased Wanadoo, Orange, and Equant (the last two were previously foreign owned but operated in France). The thing about the purchases of these is that France Telecom now owes a billion euros back to the government for illegal subsidies.
Another classic example of Little Man's Syndrome is Vivendi Universal.
Re:an explanation about France... (Score:2)
So their amount of power AND their lack of independance make them quite different from a pharmaceutical company, to take your other exemple.
Also they never bought wanadoo. They made it. Wanadoo is the name they gave to their internet division. It has never been independant but also it never played
Re:an explanation about France... (Score:2)
The most recent news is that Sanofi-Aventis has been laying off people in New Jersey despite promising 2,000 new jobs created by it's merger. Apparently the SEC was a little upset that the company's merger didn't turn out as well as it was supposed to, which is where the French connection comes in...
The merger happened when Sanofi-Synthélabo made a hostile takeover bid of 48B eur
EA going downhill anyway (Score:2)
On the flip side, if Ubisoft is going to leave themselves open to a takeover, who are they to complain when it actually happens? I think this is
Re:EA going downhill anyway (Score:2)
Perhaps I don't fully understand the market, but pretty much every company is potentially open to a hostile takeover. As long as someone can convince 51% of the existing stockholders to sell to them, they can takeover. Granted there a
French Financial Systems (Score:5, Interesting)
In France, however, management has priority in the law. You might think that the shareholders control the company through a board of directors appointing the CEO and others in management, but the truth is under law the equity owners are extremely limited in making the kind of company-saving decisions that they can in the US. The result is an anemic economy.
This is a seperate issue from the French government offering to become specially involved, but is relevant to EA's ability to affect Ubisoft in the same way they would any other company in the US inwhich they owned 20% of the shares.
Re:French Financial Systems (Score:2)
So the whole idea of a corporate charter is just silly?
Re:French Financial Systems (Score:2)
This is only allowed to happen here and now because the US economy is so strong that despite poor interest returns, people still feel safe putting money here and buying our bonds. And guess what nation is the n
Re:French Financial Systems (Score:3, Interesting)
You do know that interest rates are the same [google.com], if not lower in the Euro zone than in the US?
So, why is the dollar falling?
Short answer: The dollar is falling:
Ubisoft's Newest Release (Score:2, Funny)
There is a rumor that EA simply wants to get in on a new Ubisoft game. The premise of the game is that the player is the head of a French bank and collects fees from an Iraqi dictator who is supposed to be using the money in his account to pay for food and medical supplies for his people, but is really funneling it to terrorists and arms dealers.
You get bonus points for lobbying the UN to not sanction a war in Iraq so that you can keep collecting fees from the account.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/nat [washingtontimes.com]
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Re:No Rove Here (Score:2)
Re:The French commitment to Afghanistan (Score:2)
The article (dating from a year and a half ago) you quoted mentioned that they were going to send special forces to Afghanistan. It appears that they have sent them since them.
I'm not suggesting that they're exactly leading the effort, but give me a break. It should be obvious that the US doesn't have enough troops there, either, considering the fact that the opium crops are doing so well.
Note To Business Owners (Score:3, Insightful)
Everyone likes to play by the rules as long as they're in their favor, but as soon as someone else gets the upper hand and threatens your (insert precious item here) the rules suddenly become unfair and need to be circumvented. Human nature I guess. Hooray for "free" markets though - greed really is the best motivation for human endeavors, right?
I'm sick of EA (Score:2)
Their attitude seems to be "You'll play what we develop and like it!" They forget to add "No matter how inferior a product it is!"
I say fsck EA. Unfortunat
Re:Who would want to buy ANYTHING french ? (Score:2)
Re:Who would want to buy ANYTHING french ? (Score:2)
Those are Ubisoft.
Re:Who would want to buy ANYTHING french ? (Score:2)
Re:Who would want to buy ANYTHING french ? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Who would want to buy ANYTHING french ? (Score:2)
Re:Who would want to buy ANYTHING french ? (Score:2, Funny)
In Hell, the police are German, the lovers are Swiss, the cooks are British, the engineers are French, and it's all organized by the Italians.
Re:Who would want to buy ANYTHING french ? (Score:3, Informative)
Yeah, you better send that green statue in NY harbor back to France, before it topples over.
Re:unexpected limelight? (Score:3, Insightful)
Josh
Re:unexpected limelight? (Score:4, Insightful)
Or in the words of Eddie Izzard:
Re:unexpected limelight? (Score:2, Insightful)
Debt repaid. With interest. Thanks!
Re:unexpected limelight? (Score:2)
The may not be speaking German now - but they are sure under the German central-banks power with the Euro.
Germany finally got Europe united - just 50 years late and without the flashy uniforms.
Re:unexpected limelight? (Score:2)
Re:unexpected limelight? (Score:2)
Re:unexpected limelight? (Score:2)
The European powers didn't encourage their colonies to be industrial powerhouses.
Re:unexpected limelight? (Score:2)
Please. Continental Europe was firmly under Axis control prior to the United States involvement.
And yet, somehow, the EU still believes appeasement is the proper way of dealing with dictators.
Re:unexpected limelight? (Score:2)
Look, I'm all for "US kicked ass in WWII", but the war was decided in the Soviet Union, at Stalingrad, iirc. It was the war of attrition against the soviets that Hitler couldn't win. Our massive D-day invasion resembled a nail in the coffin more than the coffin itself.
Re:unexpected limelight? (Score:2)
You will find the French in the background of many American conflicts, manipulating the cards to the french advantage.
French and Indian War, Revolutionary War, War of 1812, War between the States, (what were the two when we sent our farm boys to save their asses?), WW I, WW II, they were in Vietnam before the US came in. (we just got stuck with the bill). In recent history, we find them playing games
Re:unexpected limelight? (Score:2)
By "They" you mean "The Dutch" right? The Dutch did more to fund the US war of independance than the French ever did. The French gave us some weapons, and military support. But most importantly (from France at least) we got to give a big middle finger to England (we'll just trade with France then); which helped with negotiations.
Re:unexpected limelight? (Score:2, Interesting)
fuckin' rambo wankers
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fuckin' rambo wankers
Haha, mod parent up, that was awesome.
Anyhow, with the Germans doing things like this [oradour.info] to France, it's not at all surprising they surrendered. They would have been obliterated otherwise. Is that somehow more noble than being occupied?
Re:unexpected limelight? (Score:2)
Re:unexpected limelight? (Score:3, Funny)
You must be new here.
Re:it's a shame... (Score:2)
Re:Fun with eBay! (Score:2, Funny)