2004 Indie Games of the Year 318
cyrus_zuo writes "For all those who think that the best games that came out this year were all sequels Game Tunnel presents a different angle on things with their 2004 Independent Game of the Year awards. For those who believe that the best game this year was that badly named expansion pack that they have the nerve to call Halo 2, check out the awards for a different side of gaming than you are used to."
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For all those who think that the best games that came out this year were all sequels...
Strike this -- you can't know who this list is meant for.Game Tunnel presents a different angle...
"Different angle" is a matter of opinion.on things with their 2004 Independent Game of the Year awards. For those who believe that the best game this year was that badly named expansion pack that they have the nerve to call Halo 2...
Opinions have no place here.check out the awards for a different side of gaming than you are used to.
How can the writer know what side of gaming I am used to?Finally, my edited introduction:
Game Tunnel presents their 2004 Independent Game of the Year awards.
Wouldn't Slashdot be so much better like that? Then we wouldn't have to skim the comments of some boob nitpicking the editors for trying to produce non-cardboard prose.Re:Unneeded comment (Score:2)
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Wouldn't Slashdot be so much better like that? Then we wouldn't have to skim the comments of some boob nitpicking the editors for trying to produce non-cardboard prose.
But that's not what the introduction is supposed to be for on Slashdot. It's supposed to tittilate and engage the reader, leap out and shout "this is for you!" whether it really is or not. It's marketing.
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Didn't it work?
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Are you kidding. A whole bunch of people come here for the OSS kiddie 'tude. Another interpretation of the post would be "Screw MS and its popular Xbox game!"
Yeah it would be better, but it would lose readers and I doubt the editors have it in them to be even-handed about anything. They are simply advocates and dont want to change their roles.
Like I wrote, there's an allure to going someplace where the editors have the same bias you do. Same with politic
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Are you new here?
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For example, Albert Pussyjuice (675113) here gripes about "For those who believe that the best game this year was that badly named expansion pack that they have the nerve to call Halo 2, check out the awards for a different side of gaming than you are used to," being a comment by cyrus_zuo. Well, Mr. PJ, if you were to even cursorily glimpse the actual article you would seen that this is a direct quotation from the first paragraph in the linked article. Amazing, isn't is, what an ass a minor convenience has made you to be!
Then there is saltydogdesign (811417)'s comments in a sister post where he breaks down the initial paragraph of the article into pieces and lamblasts the author. Well let's read that paragraph in whole again:
"For all those who think that the best games that came out this year were all sequels prepare to open your mind. For those who believe that the best game this year was that badly named expansion pack that they have the nerve to call Halo 2, you are about to see a different piece of gaming than you are used to."
As one can see when he stops to obsorb the actual meaning of this paragraph, he can see that the author is addressing those whom believe the best games of this year were sequels such as _Halo 2_. saltydogdesign somehow takes this personally though he is obviously not the group that the opening paragraph is addressed to. The point of the linked Web site's author's writing of the column is to hopefully "wake up" those he considers "in the dark" about the other side of gaming, the small, independent studios' games rather than the large juggernaut publisher's games.
Albert Pussyjuice, saltydogdesign, and others like them would be better off if they would not attack Slashdot for posting opinions in the article summaries when they themselves don't read the article. Often the articles summaries are either partially or in whole taken from the original article anyway.
So I propose we all make a deal: when we as the Slashdot viewers start reading the featured sites' content before posting comments then we can complain about the admins duping and posting false stories and opinions because they did not RTFA themselves.
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The boards blow. Zanzibar, Burial Mounds, Foundation, lockout, collosus, they all suck for one reason or another. Zanzibar and Burial mounds are always used for single flag CTF and assault and if the teams are _any_ good the game is always a tie.A myriad of comments can be made about the other boards as well.
WHY THE FUCK DOES RED WIN IF THERE IS A TIE AND THEY SCORE ON THEIR SECOND ATTEMPT IN A CTF OR ASSAULT GAME???????? There is NO logic behind this! None whatsoever!
The weapons- The sniper rifle is basically unstoppable now on a number of boards. If someone on ascension gets in the banshee and gets on top of the tower then they can't be killed because the other weapons are now so much weaker.
You can not switch between Halo 1 and Halo 2. Believe me I try. Between the differences in the way the weapons operate (the rocket launcher for one), the fact that you have to drop weapons twice when dual wielding you almost can not switch between the games regularly without going mad. And the feel of the sniper rifle is so disgustingly different it makes me cry to use the new one.
There are about a thousand other problems but they have been covered by so many people on bungie.net that it isn't worth repeating here.
-sirket
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Their latest posts:
12/30 - "Halo vs Half Life Comparison"
12/24 - "Gamespot Reader's Choice Awards"
12/20 - "Getting Started With Halo 2"
12/20 - "Humpday Challenge: Clan PMS "
Great guys! Thanks a bunch. Now, what's being done about all the cheating online and all the other bugs? Oh, great, I get to read about Clan PMS!
And don't get me started on the single player. What a crock. Barely any earth levels? Check. Playing as some other stupid character? Check. A fucking stupid ending? Check.
And FFS, why does bungie.net have to suck so much in Firefox?
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As far as your commentary on the single player, I spent far too much time listening to other people about the abruptness of the ending, and found myself expecting the game to end for about 6 straight levels. I think that you are suffering from the same problem.
Why does there NEED to be Earth levels? More specifically, why would that make or break the game? Just because you wanted the conflict to take place on Earth does not make the ga
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True=!on topic
The independant list should be judged on its opwn merits. I don't need someone telling me that I have to like this because it stands in opp
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I think the mirrordot [mirrordot.com] mirror will work better.
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Well, typically, people from slashdot rarely even read the article after clicking it. So, I doubt they click through all the pages. Therefore, mirrordot is probably pretty useful for the majority of the load slashdot pushes onto a web site.
Halo 2 (Score:2, Insightful)
I can accept trolling in comments, but the fact that this article was accepted as is makes me cringe.
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Rob
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I managed to get to the end of the list before a complete Slashdot (happened while I downloaded a top10 game... BreakQuest. Irony?). GISH, the Tarball adventure game is first, and it deserve it. Fun, VERY original gameplay and VERY challenging. Free demo available too [chroniclogic.com].
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All it discusses are Doom 3, Half Life 2, Halo 2, and the odd update to WineX that lets yet another big commercial Windows title run under linux.
I guess I don't understand what motivates
To me, new and good indie games, or hell - any good game I've never heard of is true "news for nerds". SCO v IBM is "news for IP lawyers".
My Favorite is... (Score:2, Funny)
What a crap choice (Score:3, Funny)
It was obviously the $40m tech demo called Half Life 2
Doom3 was the tech demo (Score:2)
Which is probably one the best games I've played. Excellent visuals and an excellent story. I don't usually replay games, but I've found myself re-doing the urban combat part of HL2 to fight those striders and take another tour of the citadel. Amazing stuff.
A couple thoughts:
Indie works great when a small group can accomplish what a large commercial group can, like in indie music or free software. The instruments/computers, recording studio/compi
Halo 2 Rules (Score:4, Insightful)
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Maybe you should get Burnout 3.. it has vehicles in every level!
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Oh for god's sake. Halo 2 had revamped graphics, sound, a completely new single player campaign and XBOX Live support. What is your definition of a sequel anyways?
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First, the Linuxites who can't stand the fact that the Xbox is both cool and a great success (reread early Xbox posts). You see, to them, Microsoft can't do anything right, and so therefore, those who think the Xbox is a good console and Halo a good game are "overhyped" or not true gamers. This despite the fact that both Halo and Halo2 have achieved Game of the Year awar
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The hype surrounding them is, IMHO, due to the fact that for a lot of "newbie" gamers is their first approach to a modern FPS, even when it's lacking on some areas. For newcomers is very easy to pick up, and stays fun b
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No, they are the pinnacle of refinement in the "old school" style of FPS. Gripes about the single player story are probably valid in a lot of cases, but the multiplayer feels just like playing Doom back in the day, except it's matured in the same way you'd expect aged wine to.
Having been a gamer on both PC and consoles for almost 20 years now I'm not a "newbie" gamer in any sense of the word, and the implication that the only way to enjoy Halo is because it's "easy to pick up" is pure rubbish.
The cautiously balanced weapons and solid feel of the environment is the state of the art, it takes all the classic elements of FPS that causes us to recall Doom or Marathon with fondness and sharpens them to a glistening point. Halo gave it to us on a LAN, Halo2 brought it online.
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Again, Halo IS fun, and IS well made, but's nowhere close of being the ultimate FPS experience some claim it to be.
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The first two games are acceptable recommendations since they are more specialized - however, you should note that one of the two games was only available after Halo 1 and couldn't be played.
Painkiller, on the other hand, isn't strictly a good replacement game for singleplayer, mainly because it uses a different subclass of an
Xbox runs linux! Xbox rules! (Score:2)
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Hey, I'm sure its a great, fun console, but doesn't something have to turn a profit to be called a success? Unless it's an exercise in predatory pricing...
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What's the exact definition of indy? (Score:4, Interesting)
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This definition is somewhat problematic, because you don't usually think of Id Software as an indie developer, although it is, according to this definition. For most indies the definition is accurate though.
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Other indies do the same as Id, finish their game and submit it to a publisher. I don't think you cease to be an indie because of that. If the publisher gets the game after it's finished, it doesn't finance its development, and ha
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Basically, id didn't want to become some huge publisher, which they woulda had to to 'put up' all the damn 'copy protection racket' fees... of course they coulda just pressed unprotected discs or something like people used to in the days before cd-burners were $10 at the local wal-mart*... but then anyone who wanted to could copy it for all their friends, and frankly a lot of people would do that. let's see.. $50 at the store, or $0.01 for a blank CD and b
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GISH (Score:2, Insightful)
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Do you really mean that a "very large number of MMORPG players" are middle-aged, trendy, suburban mothers?
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In fact, lately "big" publishers have been focusing in games with a lot of glitter but boring gameplay (90% of modern FPSs go there). Indie games may lack polish, but most (all?) of the games in that list are downright fun to play. That's what counts for me.
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Meanwhile two other AAA FPS games - Far Cry and Chronicles of Riddick were not heavily hyped, didn't get so many
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that came out this year were all sequels Game
Tunnel presents a different angle on things
with their 2004 Independent Game of the Year
awards. For those who believe that the best
game this year was that badly named expansion
pack that they have the nerve to call Halo 2,
check out the awards for a different side of
gaming than you are used to.
Translation:
Please visit my site, it is only 8 pages full of pictures and I think I can survive a slashdotting.
Say what? (Score:2, Funny)
I never heard of that game...
Priceless! (Score:2, Funny)
Buying HALO 2: 45 bucks.
Submitting a self promotional story to slashdot and seeing your servers catching fire: priceless!
My suggestion is Darkspace. (Score:3, Interesting)
Darkspace is Space Combat MMOG, not a mining simulation like Eve; imagine multi-player elite on steroids. PvP combat in a large scale persistent Meta-Verse of about 40 Star systems of 10-30 planets with 3 factions, 2 human and 1 alien.
Each faction has about 30 unique ships. You can fly combat ships from small fast stealthy long range scouts, frigate, destroyers, cruisers, dreadnaught and even space stations, each ship has uniques capabilities. There are also support ships such as engineers to build planets, supply ships to repair friendly forces and transports to trade resources, carry troops or ships mods.
You form fleets, or join an established fleet, or fight as a lone wolf. You can put down rebellions, capture planets & moons, bomb them, mine them, build them up with a wide range of structures as mining colonies, military training camps for troops, factory planets for ships mods, or front line supply depots using various structures including habitation, factories, powers planets, repair depots, barracks, defensive installations, supply depots and factories, even shipyards.
You can modify your ships extensively, upgrade your engines for more power and speed, switch between long range/stand-off weapons like fighers and missiles, or get close up and personal with cannon and torpedoes. You can sneak up to enemy ships, and paint them for your big guns, board and capture them with elite troops, or simply spy scout them out. As you go gain prestige, rank, earning honors alone the way, giving you a progress increase in choice.
I've been playing Darkspace for 2 years, I'm ranked in the top 30 players out of 6000 regulars and it still holds a challenge. IMHO its up there amoungt the best games of all time.
You dont even have to believe me, you can download the game client for free (windows only) and receive a weeks free trial.
I'm SO happy to see Gish winning the award... (Score:2)
It's hard to explain exactly why the game is so fun, but it boils down to the controls: you are a blob of tar, and you can only move, jump, make yourself heavier, lighter or "sticky". The game uses these concepts in very smart puzzles, but again, you have to play it to get it. It also looks great, and i love the cartoony design of the characters.
Give it a t
Gish is available for Linux and Mac! (Score:2)
Just downloaded Gish (for Linux) and will try it out. I wonder what other games on that list are also cross-platform.
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The storyline and combat in Spiderweb's game can be good, but soon after I purchased the game, I found another RPG called "Angband", version 2.7.9. After that, I found the Exile series to have a somewhat clumsy interface because of the lack of keyboard targetting (e.g. you require a mouse
Expansion pack? (Score:2, Insightful)
This will be covered over and over again, but I'm going to try and be concise:
When you code a brand new engine from scratch, it's not an expansion. Expansions are add-ins for existing engines. 'kay?
While I appreciate the edgy tone of effective PR, I do hope that cyrus_zuo understands that his mischaracterization erodes his credibility as any sort of authority on gaming.
I love Halo 2, but there are
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Interesting anecdote about I of the Enemy (Score:5, Insightful)
Rob
Our Indie First-Person Shooter (Score:2)
The graphics [dejobaan.com] are not likely to outdo
Gish (Score:2)
It sucks. Original idea? Yeah. Good game? Well, I'd rather play HL2, and it only cost me 20 bucks more than the full verison of this.
There's a reason these games are indy, and it isn't because they are simply unique.
Halo 2, The Indie Top 10, and Progressivism (Score:2)
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And it feels so good. [mozdev.org]
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I have a question about firefox (and
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as to the 'coralized' links working, it was only working for 'page 1' of the article for me :
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Either way, it's a single page article with no ads as I'm posting this....
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brilliant
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You, sir, need to get out of the basement.
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It might be informative - if it were true - but a quick Google search for the three game titles it references reveals that none of them actually exist.
The page at mirrordot shows that the games actually referenced in the article have their own web sites. So if the games listed by "Sheetrock" really existed, Google should know about at least one of them.
We can only speculate as to why "Sheetrock" would post this type of disinformation.
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10. I of the Enemy
9. Revolved
8. Smugglers 3
7. Global Defense Network
6. Anito: Defend a Land Endangered
5. BreakQuest
4. Outpost Kaloki
3. Hamsterball
2. Wik & The Fable of Souls
1. Gish (by the fantastic Chronic Logic)
That's the REAL list. Gish is the only one I've heard of, though some of those look interesting (and many have GREAT graphics). The one game I wish was on there is N by metanet software. I was addicted to that game for weeks. Very cool little game - "play as a ninja trapped in a world of well-meaning, inadvertantly homicidal robots. " Give it a try!
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~Lake
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If you wont scale, atleast offer a fullscreen/res changing mode.
(replying to the last post in this th
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ve been gaming since the 70s, clearly anybody who disagrees with you is just rants.
I mean, you liked, so someone else couldn't honestly dislike it.
sheesh, people like you need to relize nobody cares how long you've been gaming.
The number of machines you own isn't going to sway someoelse opinion.
sadly, there was a time I couldn't write a post in gaming without mentioning how long I've been doing it.
of course, DnD'ers are the worst.
for the record, I to feel the Halo 2 was an overhyped PoS.
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Usually I don't fall into hypes, but such a huge hype made me interested in Halo. Hey, it must be good, if every Xbox owner says it's great, right?
Well, last year I finally had the chance to play it. Gawd, I was so bored, I couldn't even believe! This crap should be the king of all games?!?
Quake 1 is way more fun than Halo 1... not to mention Half-Life 1 and both games are older than Halo.
Now Halo 2.....
Wow,
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It's an FPS - you shoot things. What features does any FPS have that could be considered new?
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