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Stock Market for Geek Culture 26

indiejade writes "Yahoo! recently launched its take on the virtual fantasy-prediction game market. The Tech Buzz Game allows players to invest in what they think will be the "next big thing" RE high-tech products, trends, or concepts. CNet reported that the game was announced at the now-in-progress Emerging Technologies Conference in San Diego. The players with the three highest scores accumulated in the game between now and July 29th will win one of various Apple products."
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Stock Market for Geek Culture

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  • Easy to cheat? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by kryogen1x ( 838672 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @08:45PM (#11960919)
    From TFA:

    * You're bullish on podcasting; you buy shares of PODCAST stock * Britney announces her next single will be delivered exclusively via podcast * Curious tweens everywhere flood Yahoo! with searches about podcasting * Your shares skyrocket; you make a bundle

    Couldn't you fix the results by asking friends to search for something? Either that, or post a link on Slashdot :)

  • by thepotoo ( 829391 ) <thepotoospam AT yahoo DOT com> on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @08:46PM (#11960930)
    My mom always said my love of games would never amount to anything...Well I guess she was wrong! I'm going to get a free iPod!
  • Advertisement? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by gimpynerd ( 864361 )
    Stock market games have been around for quite some time. It seems that all they did was limit it to tech stocks therefore reducing the amount of enjoyment and making it easier. Then they slap a fancy name on it and announce it at some convention to get hype. Seems to me it is just one big advertisement for Yahoo and everyone else involved.
    • RTFA? There are no "tech stocks" mentioned here, and it in no way relates to the "real" stock market, which involves trading of securities. This is just a game that acts like the securities market in that you can buy and sell tech concepts based on their buzz level
  • by AnotherFreakboy ( 730662 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @09:47PM (#11961378)
    I was starting to get excited by this, but only residents of the USA are eligible for prizes.
  • by NetDanzr ( 619387 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @09:48PM (#11961385)
    Something like this has been available for some years in the form of Innovation Futures [innovationfutures.com], a project launched by MIT's Technology Review. Of course, because the trading there requires a relatively high level of sophistication, it appealed to only a relatively limited audience. Still, even though I've been there since the inception (thanks to a news post at Slashdot [slashdot.org]), I still find it very entertaining.
  • by Geoffreyerffoeg ( 729040 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @11:04PM (#11961899)
    They're measuring stock value based on Yahoo! searches? It's a good idea, but:

    1. Invest in some obscure Foobar Technology.
    2. while (true) {socket.open("www.yahoo.com"); socket << "GET /search?p=foobar HTTP/1.0"; socket.close();}
    3. ??? (somehow get a lot of computers to run this; your personal bandwidth probably isn't enough to make a dent)
    4. Profit!
  • A catch (Score:4, Interesting)

    by dtfinch ( 661405 ) * on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @11:23PM (#11962003) Journal
    First, you give them your email.

    Then, registration for the contest asks for extra personal information information. Address, phone number, etc.

    From the official rules:
    By entering the Game, you agree to Yahoo!'s use of your personal information as described in Yahoo!'s Privacy Policy

    From the privacy policy:
    We provide the information to trusted partners who work on behalf of or with Yahoo! under confidentiality agreements. These companies may use your personal information to help Yahoo! communicate with you about offers from Yahoo! and our marketing partners.

    I expect that by playing the game you tell them exactly what types of products you think about, moreso than they could deduce from search strings.
    • Thanks for pointing that out. It only amused me for a few minutes, so I've just given them nonsense info. No want to play no more.
  • Apparently yahoo took the time out of their schedule to dream up some new form of betting. Its not quite a futures market, and not quite a stock market, and might even be closest to a horse race ;)
  • by DingerX ( 847589 ) on Thursday March 17, 2005 @04:50AM (#11963320) Journal
    The idea is rather interesting: predict the "hot items" in advance by a stock market. Unfortunately, they threw in Yahoo Search Results as an additional factor. So, we have three problems:

    A) A Disconnect between the whole "Buzz market" and that represented by Yahoo search. For example, those who use Yahoo search are more likely to use Yahoo services, and so Yahoo services will have a disproportionately higher "Buzz Rating". If you doubt me, check out a few of those markets and you'll find Yahoo with 58-70% "buzz rating" and yet considerably lower capitalization.

    B) The criteria used for buzz are not only public, but also linked on the page. For example, I bought 1000 shares of EMUSIC. Clicking on the "Buzz Words" section tells me that the "EMUSIC" buzz value can be raised by clicking on one of 5 links: emusic [yahoo.com]");
    emusic download [yahoo.com]");
    free emusic [yahoo.com]");
    emusic tag [yahoo.com]");
    emusic live [yahoo.com]");
    (I am not signed up for any sort of prize, nor does my sig line offer you a free mac mini in exchange for e-sodomization; nor do I even know what emusic is; but feel free to check these links out for integrity)
    C) Thus, if you're going to measure anything, rewarding unrelated behaviour will ruin the measurement. Then again, I suppose it's a good way to bombard people with ads and increase site traffic.

    Still, who knows? Maybe this game will predict the next Junk Bond king.
    • by DingerX ( 847589 ) on Thursday March 17, 2005 @05:36AM (#11963441) Journal
      Sorry for replying to my own post, these things fascinate me though:
      If you look through the fine print [yahoo.com], you'll see that Fridays, between 6PM and 9PM, they "Adjust" the market prices to proportions of the "Buzz Value". Now, if you investigate say, Ad services [yahoo.com], you'll find that Google Adsense leads at $17/share, followed by Yahoo Overture at $7.50. Yet Google Adsense has 20-odd keywords to Overture's 48, and Overture has 58% of the buzz to google's 25%.
      So, come tomorrow, people are going to be shocked when their Adsense stock plummets to 1/3 its current valuation, and Overture doubles.

      A few weeks of this, and maybe Yahoo brand awareness will be higher up in the minds of Alpha Geeks around the world.

      So I guess I'll reconsider C). Contrary to what they claim, this isn't a measurement; it's a direct attempt to influence market awareness for Yahoo products among IT professionals.
  • I am curious to see if anyone can sucessfuly manipulate the game to make a fortune, there doesn't seem to be anything in their rules banning it, no YahooSEC.
  • When i looked at this last night, i noticed that of the 1,509 people in the game who all, I believe, started with $10,000 fantasy dollars in the game, only 29 still had that much or more.

    So why are only 2% of the players profitting in a set of zero-sum games? What investment strategy are they pursuing that is so poor?

    mahlen

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