
E3 2005 Booth Babe Hall of Shame 184
DanAckerman writes "GameGal.com offers some of the out-of-control examples of Booth Babe excess seen every year (five years running) at E3 in their annual Hall of Shame gallery." From the article: "They're smiling on the outside, but three days of snapping Poloroids with sweaty game geeks leads these girls to swear off Guild Wars forever."
My wife was a booth babe... (Score:2, Interesting)
Sweaty, nasty geeks indeed. She said it was worse than you can imagine.
So what? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Why? (Score:5, Funny)
I told you to stop posting to slashdot! Please keep our family life out of this!
Re:Why? (Score:3, Funny)
That may not be a big deal to you, but for most people their body is sacred and private.
Ever been to a beach?
Re:Why? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Sacred and private? Funny! (Score:5, Interesting)
And in my mind, going to a strip club isn't about getting your rocks off. It's about finding just how much you can embarass a girl with a dollar.
Perhaps you just have a very warped mind. I've been to several strip clubs in my town. The customers aren't allowed to touch the girls and don't get any closer than the girls want to let them. While I'm sure there's the occaisional smelly customer, most of the guys I see in the places are dressed pretty well and the worst smell you get is from the guys that wear too much cologne. My brother worked at a strip club for a couple years and dated a few of the strippers as well. They made good money, had a relatively easy job, and could afford to go to college. All in all, they're doing better than a lot of people I know. No idea why people don't seem to have much problem with women in bikinis at the beach, but feel that you're a slut or whore with no dignity if you show your nipples. What a fucked up country this is.
Re:Sacred and private? Funny! (Score:3, Interesting)
Oh let's see how about the one I know that is doing it as a way of supporting herself through college. She's the one that was in foster care most of her life and did not have a mom's basement to crawl-out of and daddy to foot the bills. And guess what I have never seen her without her clothes on so it is not like it was a story she told me to hustle me for cash. Nope she is my wife's friend.
Or
Re:Why? (Score:2)
Mod parent up. I'm sure there are sleazy strip clubs out there, but that does not mean most of them are covert brothels.
Strippers don't appeal to me, but if I were female it would be at least a little tempting to *work* at a place like that. They make a TON of money. A friend of mine was showing me her photo album, and one of the pictures wa
Re:Why? (Score:2)
That said, the girls make next to nothing dancing. Going up on stage a few times, perhaps 5 minutes out of an hour and dancing for a few dollars in your g-string? That's just what gets people into the club, bud. The money they make is by hustling people. Private dances and VIP stuff. It's not prostitution, but I know I wouldn't want to have to give lap da
Re:Why? (Score:2)
Hmm. I guess some places are different. The one where a friend of mine works now pays something like $15/hour just for the dancing.
This is Silly (Score:2)
Re:This is Silly (Score:3)
They already pretty much do. The LA Convention Center is not really in the "heart" of downtown, it's down near the basketball arena (what is it called these days, the Staples Center?) in an area of town that's sort of borderline - it's not bad but it's not great either, and it kind of feels like the middle of nowhere. I walked around outside the convention center a while both times I went to E3 and I did see some strip c
Re:This is Silly (Score:2)
Booth babes (Score:5, Funny)
At least there was a pillow fight, right? Everybody knows no babe sleepover is complete without a pillow fight.
Booth "babes" (Score:2)
Out of control? (Score:2, Funny)
You mean the geeks, right? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:You mean the geeks, right? (Score:2, Insightful)
If you have sold yourself to someone (your looks, your body), so they can then sell me a product, I have no respect for you. Your tits are for my pleasure, to leer at if I wish, that is WHY you got hired, remember. Same with your ass, and any other part of yourself that you are using to "attract" my attention. That is why you got hired. You sold yourself, and more properly, your sexuality, to a thi
Re:You mean the geeks, right? (Score:2)
Great post.
Re:You mean the geeks, right? (Score:2, Insightful)
Yeah, I bet that's what prostitutes tell themselves too.
-Eric
Re:You mean the geeks, right? (Score:2)
Ok, that's enough for now.
America the Puritanical (Score:5, Insightful)
Sorry, but I think there are a lot of things to be upset about in this country of ours and booth babes are waaaaaaaaaaay down at the bottom of the list.
Where else can you find boothbabes? (Score:5, Insightful)
If this was a car show I could see booth babes being around, but video games? Wtf? If this is the kind of perception gaming developers and producers have of gamers its no wonder Nintendo is constantly cranking out award winning games and capturing a loyal audience. Kids don't care about booth babes. Casual gamers don't care about booth babes. Hardcore gamers may stare for a little bit but even they know that it all comes down to gameplay. What kind of jobless losers are these developers try to attract with booth babes?
Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? (Score:3, Funny)
And with good reason...
Women are pretty. Men are not. Simple as that.
If you want people's attention, something pretty to look at usually works better than something which is not. That much should be obvious to anybody.
Personally, I go out of my way to buy products which use beautiful women to promote them, because I want to encourage companies to continue the practice... I don't know what the hell I'm going to do with a box of "Intuition" le
Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? (Score:2)
Why yes, I do like my gross sexist generalisations. They get my point across, are usually fairly accurate, and still manage to offend every woman who thinks "I'm not like other women" (ie, all of them).
Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? (Score:5, Insightful)
Seriously, is the same reason they put beautiful women in every single commercial oriented to males. We just love to see them. It's simple.
Do they have professional standards? (Score:2, Insightful)
The mass media mocks and laughs at the video game industry. Booth babes in a 'media only' show? What kind of -professional- reporter fall for that kind of trick? (Br
Re:Do they have professional standards? (Score:2)
Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? (Score:5, Insightful)
What I dislike about the article, if you can actually call it that, is that it (too me at least) implies that there is something wrong with enjoying the sight of scantily clad women, which I don't happen to think that there is, whatever the reason.
Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? (Score:2)
You must a whole different TV system than most people have available. Cable channels (HBO, Cinemax, etc) have stuff on all the time.
Oh, you mean on every channel, anytime you want. Well, no, not on the broadcast channels.
Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? (Score:2)
This is NOT an American phenomenon. Feel free to watch advertising from anywhere around the world, you'll see that "sex sells" to everybody.
Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? (Score:2)
Journalists? It is a trade show.
Answer: Everywhere. (Score:5, Funny)
Oh, wait, those are only for low-life shmucks who aren't ashamed of being attracted to women and aren't smart enough to spend all their time toying with computers.
A modern, refined individual, such as one whose declared hobby is 'video games' surely cannot indulge in such vulgar interests.
Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? (Score:2)
I was at the ATEI show in London in January (see my website for a review with some pictures of it)
where arcade games are presented and sold.. almost all booth babes were at the booth of Sega.. maybe 2 other smaller booths also had 1 babe and that was it. But Sega's booth had 6 or 7 ?
As I say on my website, I found it weird to find the booth babes at such a la
Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? (Score:3, Insightful)
Why must female sexuality be mutually exclusive with "kicking ass"? Or being smart? Or being successful? Or anything other than
Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? (Score:2)
Re:America the Puritanical (Score:3, Interesting)
My guess: You'ld find it less than comfortable. The girls are just pointing out the same thing.
Re:America the Puritanical (Score:5, Insightful)
If there was... iduno... content to the hall of shame aside from said photos, I might feel differently. But there isn't and I don't. The booth babe interviews from previous years are much more interesting and better at humanizing the issue (however much or little an issue it is).
Re:America the Puritanical (Score:2)
I'll bite. Yes, I would feel differently. But then again, grocery stores are far more public than E3.
If that soap company, during the national S3 (Stupendous Soap S...omethingathon) extravaganza hired those same dancers to appeal to the women who would be touring their booths? Why not? Are you telling me you think that would be wrong?
Re:America the Puritanical (Score:2)
In whatever it is you do, imagine if you had to conduct your business with some big brawny guy hanging out of a g-string.
Personally, I find the idea kind of exciting, but that's because I like big brawny guys hanging out of g-strings. But it wouldn't be fair to those who might not.
Re:America the Puritanical (Score:2)
You're modifying your argument to make it stronger; "business" isn't really conducted at these trade shows. Products are shown off and hyped up and any edge to get more attention is used; including sex.
Now, if (as a straight, married, male) my industry held an annual convention for new product (new meeting, new gadgets, whatever) promotion; and my industry was primarily made up of peop
Re:America the Puritanical (Score:2)
When most industries were old boys clubs, the booth babe phenomenon was a lot more prevalent. As these industries became more integrated it fell by the wayside. From the original article, it sounds like it's starting to recede at E3 as well
Re:America the Puritanical (Score:2)
Sure, but what if most of your audience is? I know that I'd spend more time at a booth with a babe than one without. Unless the product was really, really crappy.
Re:America the Puritanical (Score:2, Funny)
Re:America the Puritanical (Score:2)
I'm offended at the objectification aspect. Not objectification in general, I don't have a problem with objectification among the willing, good looks is good looks, and if you want to flaunt it, great.. but the really juvenile point-and-giggle-and-ogle objectification. Systematic o
Re:America the Puritanical (Score:5, Insightful)
Look, I like tits and ass as much as the next guy, but there's a time and a place for everything, and I get sick of T&A being over-used to hit that lowest common denominator in advertising.
"So the companies use good looking women to attract attention to their products,"
Whatever happened to using the products themselves? Or are they simply not good enough to stand on their own two feet? Another issue I have with the concept of booth babes is the way publishers rely on them and their digital counterparts in the games to move product instead of, say, making a good game.
Your argument about how the US is pro-violence and anti-sex is ultmately a straw man argument here, anyway. I didn't see anything in TFA about blowing stuff up, and at least I personally think the concept of over-relying on cleavage to sell a game is just lame in and of its own right. How about countering my argument instead of the usual collection of anti-American soundbites?
Re:America the Puritanical (Score:2)
Why deprive geeks of the fleeting hope that they one day might get a chance to reproduce? Why deprive young women who can't get another job and who can't dance from making a buck?
Re:America the Puritanical (Score:2, Insightful)
If you look at how many people are affected in our country (and in others) by women being objectified and marginalized, you may think that the problem behind "booth babes" is more important.
Re:America the Puritanical (Score:2)
You missed the point. The problem is in using women as furnitures and making them wear ugly supposedly sexy outfits (geeks dig xena).
Wonder if those geniuses really expect to increase their sales with the female audience.
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What Shame? (Score:3, Interesting)
Most likely, they are girls that are looking for modeling/acting jobs. I guess that is a modeling job, but I guarantee they could make more money on the pole. At least strippers don't have to pose next to a fat bald guy so he can show the pictures to his friends as proof of his story that he made out with a hot chick.
Re:What Shame? (Score:2)
So yes, strippers do actually generate income standing next the fact bald guy (or signing picture for him). Or so I've heard. Never been to a strip club, but cable channels periodically as a "Day in the Life" of strippers show that is interesting to see what goes on behind the s
Re:What Shame? (Score:2)
Re:What Shame? (Score:5, Funny)
EA workers who are being managed by the fat bald guy?
Re:What Shame? (Score:3, Insightful)
No, instead they get to give the bald fat guy a lap dance, and feel his dick getting hard as they grind against it in a sexual manner. Honestly, if I was a female, it'd take far less money to convince me to pose with a bunch of geeks for pictures than it would to convince me to rub myself all over those same geeks.
Re:What Shame? (Score:2)
Depends on the gamer/geek in question. From where I sit, it seems that flashy booth babes will only attract the creepy geeks and actually repel those less-caustic geeks that would be too intimidated to be within two meters of one.
Of course, I thought E3 was all about the games, anyway. Unless it's a T&A game, it seems all the booth babes would do is distract from the p
Not what I see... (Score:4, Insightful)
Oh (Score:5, Funny)
And names? If nerds could name their women?
Grepina! The goddess of search!
Re:Oh (Score:2)
Re:Oh (Score:2)
booth babe insight (Score:5, Informative)
1) Majority of the girls that they hire hate or don't care about video games. Surprisingly enough, some of the girls take to video games after the show, but that is usually only if they are stationed around a fun for everybody game. Which means not the blood and guts shooting games that tend to make up the majority of the show.
2) These girls know exactly what to expect from guys there. Afterall, these guys are not *just* at e3, they are at movie theaters, malls, streets, etc. They know how guys respond to them and how to fake smile well. An extra bonus they even have a section in their training manual about dealing with "problem" guys.
3) They get paid well. Most girls can work two days and make enough to pay their bills for a month. Plus, we are talking LA where the cost of living is quite high so that is real good money. These girls are usually all "models" and are usually contracted through an agency or agent.
4) A lot of these girls are quite smart and just do this to make some extra money on the side. A lot are "wannabe actresses" of course, but if you have the goods, why not use it right?
5) I'm a gamer, I work in the biz, I did e3 and I'm dating a "booth babe." So use that for whatever hope you want
Re:booth babe insight (Score:5, Funny)
Can you hook me up?
-ft
Re:booth babe insight (Score:5, Funny)
Shame? (Score:5, Insightful)
Next thing you know, they'll start paying strong, athletic people just to play sports, or they'll pay introverted, academic types to research new technologies! Oh, the humanity!
Re:Shame? (Score:2)
I think that is the question that things like the "booth Babe Hall of Shame" is trying to ask.
Re:Shame? (Score:2)
Re:Shame? (Score:2)
Ok, so it's sexist (Score:4, Insightful)
There is sort of a catch-22 going on at shows like this one. Gaming has usually been the domain of males. Because gaming has been primarilly the domian of males, the advertising is aimed at males. Since the advertising and games are aimed primarilly at males, the industry attracts a mostly male audience, goto 10.
Booth babes are going to be a part of gaming for a long time to come, and I doubt they will ever disappear entirely. Once the industry matures (no pun intended) we should see that sort of advertising toned down a bit, but it will still be there. At the end of the day, it's still easy to sell a guy on sex, so advertisers will still be doing it for years to come. Look at the music industry, do you really think Britney Spears would have done so well if she had dressed respectfully?
Re:Ok, so it's sexist (Score:2)
Well, you're half right.
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Re:Ok, so it's sexist (Score:2)
While I would bet that this is true to some extent, I think guys have it worse. Or, at least, its much more prevalent. If you look at advertising, when a product is being targeted at a male audiance, you can generally expect to see one or more good looking women in various states of undress. Or, at least, the implication that the product is useful fo
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Not really (Score:2)
Re:Ok, so it's sexist (Score:2)
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Re:Ok, so it's sexist (Score:2)
Complaining (Score:3, Insightful)
I wonder why that is.....
Re:Complaining (Score:2)
I wonder why that is.....
I know, could it be because they're making good cash for standing around and doing nothing (or next to it)? I'm sorry, but if I was a chick and looked like them I'd happily take the job, sweaty dudes and all.
Re:Complaining (Score:2)
This is one of my platitudes about life and politics: everybody has strong principles until it's their own money that's at stake.
Everybody has grand ideas for how YOU should spend your money, what YOU should get paid for, how much your employer can afford, how much Wal*Mart should pay their people, how high taxes should be, blah blah blah. Everybody has a very h
Re:Complaining (Score:2)
Some thoughts.. (Score:3, Insightful)
2. How much of the motivation for these women's presence came from the marketing dept trying to convince their own developers to come to the show?
3. Usually frills like these are a good indicator of an oversaturated, undergrowing market. And again, the indicator is proven true.
Re:Some thoughts.. (Score:2)
Re: (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Some thoughts.. (Score:2)
Well, let's see.... (Score:2, Funny)
The wizardess gets an automatic -1 on any male opponent's Concentration - so opposing spellcasters cannot complete their spells as easily.
The gals faking the sleepover - well, at least they are getting to sit down. Anybody who has worked a trade show will tell you standing up in the booth all day WILL make your feet sore - especially if you are wearing dress shoes when you usually weare sneakers (I speak from experience!)
Pol-A-roid. (Score:2)
Like totally! (Score:4, Funny)
We know it's tough being an actress/model in LA, but there's got got to be better gigs than pretending to have a sleepover party in the middle of a trade show.
Quoth Lord Dimboress:
"We couldn't even wear thongs! Like OMFG! Not having something in my butt was the most difficult thing ever! I sooo hope I get paid for this."
Never could understand it (Score:3, Insightful)
Really, why don't they just get someone who adds real value to staff the booth as opposed to just stand around and be animate furniture? Or, hell - just admit that they're playing on the sex urges and hire escorts, giving away a free romp every hour?
Welcome to the United States of the Offended (Score:5, Insightful)
Men are attracted to women. And people have been using this fact to sell things for years. Why is it a crime now? These critics need to get over themselves, stat.
Check out this crazy wanker! (Score:5, Funny)
I don't get it (Score:2, Insightful)
Did anyone else notice... (Score:2)
There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of "shame" going on. Stupid costumes, sure. But essentially, they're drawing crowds of horny
So much for dignity...
sexy != sexist (Score:2, Insightful)
There's nothing sexist about looking at an attractive woman for any reason.
Re:sexy != sexist (Score:2)
It's sexist to fat chicks. They're the ones who always complain about this.
Booth Babes at Conferences (Score:3, Informative)
So who is ashamed here? (Score:2)
Re:Uh.... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Uh.... (Score:2)
Re:Uh.... (Score:2)
The more you hook up, the better it gets!
Re:Guild Wars (Score:2)