Metroid Prime 3 Explored 71
mybrainonfire writes "There's an interview with the creators of the Metroid Prime series over on 1UP, and they talk about making the next game for Revolution. From the article: 'Metroid Prime 3 itself will reportedly take advantage of a number of new features in the Revolution, including the controller... Metroid Prime 3 will continue the first-person action adventure the series has become known for, and there are no plans to add a third-person viewpoint outside of the morph ball.'"
Still 1st-person? (Score:4, Interesting)
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I enjoyed it a lot.
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Metroid Fusion and Metroid Zero Mission. Nuff said...
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http://www.nintendo.com/systemsgbplayer/ [nintendo.com]
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Try Alien Hominid (Score:2)
You like Metal Slug? Contra? You'll like this.
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GameBoy Adapter [amazon.com]
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2. The new Nintendo console has a system where you can download their and others' old classics (and probably GBA games aswell) and play them on the console.
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I fully agree with this statement. We haven't had a good puzzle game for 7 years until Lumines came out for the PSP. Hello? The PS2 could have supported Lumines years ago (and surely now), but no, Sony takes the great game and uses it as a tool to sell PSPs. I hate it.
Why can't "old" genres be on home consoles (outside of a Game Boy Advance Player)? Viewtiful Joe is not a 2d game
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And while Metroid:Prime is first person and has shooting it is nothing like what is usually considered an FPS (quake, half-life). It's more an exmploration and puzzle solving game than a shooter. Especially in Prime 2 where there is a lot less morph ball action.
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Heheh.
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Pop culture references aside, Metrod Prime (and its sequels) is an amazing game. It is not your daddy's FPS. It is more a Metroid game than anyone who hasn't played it will ever know.
Just because Halo is a standard mindless FPS, it doesn't mean Nintendo's golden First Person Shooter is. I'd identify it more as a First Person Revolution. But then again, maybe that is what Nintendo's going for...
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Metroid Prime 1 and 2 were almost universally hailed as excellent games. Metroid Prime made IGN's list of 100 best games of all time. They are FAR from generic FPS.
Maybe try PLAYING it, before you knock it. Both games recreate the feeling of the originals exceptionally well, this coming from a huge fan of the 2d games.
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I see it like this: as an FPS, is was sub-par.
As a first person adventure game (which is what it was marketed as), it's pretty original.
As an adventure game, it's above-par.
I didn't like it overall, and I find that too many Nintendo games are herald as if they were some diety. You can like it if you want, but don't say it's not up for debate because it clearly is.
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Dont read too much into my post there. Obviously you're allowed to like what you like. I just sensed a bit of 'everything-old-school-is-better' snobery in the original post.
Not to be contradictive, but I DO like old school games just as much as the new fancy ones. My point was, though, that MP and MP2 recreated the feeling of the original ones rather well.
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"The interview hints that Metroid Prime 3 will end a trilogy of sorts..."
It sounds like Prime 3 will be the last of the "Prime" subseries, which has been the subtitle for every 3D Metroid game. I'd say there's a pretty good chance of Metroid returning to it's 3rd person roots for the following title. Nintendo seems to have a knack for 3D sidescrollers lately (DK: Jungle Beat, New Super Mario Bros.)
And here's an interesting rumor:
A pre-E3 issue of Game Informer reported that Nintendo
Re:Still 1st-person? (Score:1)
No. I don't think it is debatable. For being in a first person view they were absolutely perfect.
People who don't like them are either not real Metroid fans or are people who wanted the game to be something it's not. It isn't an FPS where you just run around and randomly destroy enemies. Metroid was never about that, and the prime games do an excelent job of putting the old metroid games into a first person view.
On the other hand I would love a
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I got sick of first-person style games about six months after Mario came out on the N64. Because *everything* followed suit.
I was so disappointed with Castlevainia and some of the others that I basically stopped playing action games entirely and stuck to RPGs.
Street Fighter-games don't need to be 3D, neither does Zelda or Mario or Metroid.
I give big props to the Konami/Gradius team who released Gradius 5 as an old-school shoot-em-up.
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I think of the Mario games I have played I really enjoyed 64 the most.
The funny thing is I was an "adult" by the time Mario 64 came out and it seemed to me to be a good game for me as well as younger types.
Whatever design decisions Nintendo made I think were good ones and led to a game everyone (IMO) can play.
Clearly your mileage varied, but there is nothing wrong with that.
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Has anyone in the game industry asked to see if we're still keen on playing everything in an FPS style? Come on, Doom was groundbreaking (yeah, and Castle Wolfenstein if you want to get nitpicky), later on Half-Life (a
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You'll probably bitch and moan (as a collective, I mean) that this is OSS and incomplete and yadda yadda, but sometimes if you want something specific then there's no better solution than to do it yourself.
Controller? (Score:5, Funny)
That's Revolutionary! It will use the controller!
On a side note, I feel Revolution's mysterious hype is going to explode. I am excited (yes, even with Mario part 87) to see what there is to offer.
Re:Controller? (Score:1)
So, in a sense they're saying... "The one major flaw in the game that annoyed like 3/4 of you is gone... the new controller for the Revolution will work a lot better."
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Meanwhile PS3's Cell processor is supposed to be a supercomp
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ahhh... the music (Score:2, Interesting)
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The only way... (Score:2, Interesting)
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Well, let's see. From a quick look at Nintendo's site, they have released:
1. Animal Crossing
2. Custom Robo
3. Donkey Kong Jungle Beat - (unless you consider that a sequel to the old donkey kong platformers)
4. Donkey Konga - rhythm based drumming
5. Eternal Darkness
6. Geist (upcoming)
7. Luigi's Mansion
8. Pikmin - a new puzzle series
So that is eaight brand new games right there; plus various new Mario
Re:The only way... (Score:1)
Luigi's mansion is HARDLY a typical mario game, and by hardly I mean in no way at all period end of story get a clue.
can't say much for the other games.
Re:The only way... (Score:4, Insightful)
Why is that your only criteria for judging whether a new game is worth your time? Too many times burned by Sonic, Crash Bandicoot and Tomb Raider? Nintendo sequels are far more likely to maintain quality than other franchises.
But if you're still going to be picky, how about Pikmin, WarioWare*, or Animal Crossing**? All are new concept first-party games that premiered this generation. What about the upcoming Mario light-action sports titles (baseball and soccer), or are they already declared DOA simply because Mario is in them? Have a DS for Nintendogs?
*yes, I know WarioWare has bloody Wario in it, but I'm not calling that reason enough to declare it a remake or sequel.
**yes, I know Animal Crossing was originally a Japanese N64 title.
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You're one for three. WarioWare debuted on the GBA, and alsomade it to the n64. Animal Crossing also hit the GBA. How WarioWare, which is just a themed no-board Mario Party, which itself is just a new Panic!, is a "new concept" is beyond me. Pikmin you can make the argument for, though I see it as just another automaton game like Lemmings. Mario Baseball started on the NES, and Mario Tennis on the SNES; besides, I'm not sure how you think Baseball and Tennis rati
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So what if WarioWare debuted on the GBA? The point is you were asking for new IPs, and WarioWare is a very recent creation. And likening it to Mario Party is idiotic. You have clearly played none of the games in either series. And WarioWare was never, ever an N64 game.
Animal Crossing was not a GBA game, you are, again, a moron. The closest Animal Crossing got to the GBA was the connectivity bonus coming out of the Game
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Mario = time test, approved character.
You know the games will be rated E. There will be no Hot Coffee mod to have Mario bang the princess.
More importantly, if youre developing a new game, it's very difficult to introduce it to the market.
Instead of taking a big risk, you take the game you made, and slap in Mario - now you have the same game + a recognizable lead character and a 20+ year backstory that can easily be incorporated.
Not to mention that Mario games are almost always fun to play.
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Right, because Super Mario Sunshine was just an updated version of Super Mario Bros.
Come on, the fact that Nintendo puts its successfull characters on many games doesn't mean that they're "just sequels". "Wind Waker" has about as much in common with "The Legend of Zelda" as "Ikaruga" with "River Raid".
Besides, even though Nintendo uses its "old" characters in a lot of i
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Hey, it's the only reason I keep my VCS 2600 - that, and Pitfall! :-)
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Yeah, in that you could jump, and you had to search for several shines inside the same level.
Other than that, it's quite different from Mario 64. The Water Nozzle changed the gameplay mechanisms, because you could fly and shoot. It's really not too similar to Mario 64, even if it does share a lot with it.
Most 3D platformers (such as Rayman) are a lot more similar to Mario 64 than Sunshine is.
Wish it were :-)
Hey Nintendo, how about games for the Gamecube? (Score:1)
I might as well sell my Gamecube, and use the money to save for PS3.
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More [ign.com] like [ign.com] three [ign.com] (and a half). [ign.com]
Every Nintendo console has featured no more than two Zelda games (the SNES only had one). GameCube is at least on par with that, even if you ignore FSA and OoT:MQ. Nintendo can't please everyone. For every person like you who wants more Zelda and Mario, there's another who's ticked that Nintendo keeps reusing the same franchises. It's kind of a lose-lose situation.
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...and different visors, and different weapons, and the different plot on a different planet with the little light world/dark world thing... you're right, it was practically the exact same game. Seriously, how much can you change and still have a Metroid game?
Yeah, and the new Zelda game for GC comes out in November.
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In the PC world thats called Add-On or Mission Disk, the gameplay of Prime2 is still 100% the same as in Prime. Its pretty much the same as as with ZeldaOoT and ZeldaMM, same engine, same gameplay, just a bit of new gamedata.
### Seriously, how much can you change and still have a Metroid game?
Well, a lot I would say. Prime didn't have much todo with the previous inc
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No, you mustn't! [slashdot.org]
morph ball (Score:2)
Then I thought, that would be ridiculous, it'd probably make you sick, and you wouldn't be able to tell where you were going. And I read it again, and it made sense.
But yeah, there should be a button to press when in morph ball mode so that you can go back to first person and
Amazing! (Score:2)
And I suppose next you'll tell me it takes advantage of the a/v out on the back of the box?