Xbox 360 Launches In U.S. 551
Well, it's here. Braving long lines and launch parties, and even jail time, those that were willing to pony up the time and money have their hands on the first player in the next-gen war. 360 impressions are available all across the web, with [H]ardOCP and Gamespot offering exhaustive experiences for the interested gamer. The BBC, as always, offers a bigger perspective on the launch, and Gamasutra confirms that Microsoft is in for the long haul in the games industry. From the BBC: "Sony and Nintendo are planning to unleash their next gen consoles during 2006, giving Microsoft an edge over its rivals. The software giant is virtually tied with Nintendo for second place, way behind Sony, in a games market worth $25 billion globally. Microsoft has ambitious plans for its new machine. It said it expects to ship up to three million 360s worldwide within 90 days. But the company has admitted that the worldwide launch of the console could mean shortages in the run-up to Christmas. The console is due to hit Europe on 2 December and Japan on 10 December and some retailers are also warning about limited supplies."
Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:3, Insightful)
Microsoft is in for the long haul
This is where it all falls apart. Killer this, great that, awesome the other thing. Really, the only hype that matters is this:
Microsoft touts this as a brilliant center of home media and that's probably true for anyone who doesn't already have a home entertainment center of some sort. But what the distillate is you're not going to buy it to watch DVDs on, you're going to play games with it. You're not going to surf the internet, you're going to play games with it. It won't transform you into some actuallized renaissance man (or woman) through shear wonderfulness of the Total Microsoft Experience, you will play games with it.Microsoft is under some crazy dellusion that this is some hook into the household which will bring more fish in. Really, it'll just bring gamers who are only loyal until the next gotta-have game pops up on the next revolutionary console.
If you've guessed by now that I'm not getting one, you would be right. My Athlon64 PC with top of the line video and sound cards plays this game [sourceforge.net] just fine. I see no reason to switch.
"worldwide launch of the console could mean shortages in the run-up to Christmas. The console is due to hit Europe on 2 December and Japan on 10 December and some retailers are also warning about limited supplies."
Argh, the hype! Must resist... must resist!
Oh. That wasn't so difficult.
I wonder how many of these will actually go straight from the store to eBay [ebay.com] because money is more attractive than having one.
It must suck to live in a rural area and have to get your fix this way.
new for xbox 360: uncle steve's chair toss and monkey dance combo! limit numbers, buy today!
Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:5, Informative)
I wonder how many of these will actually go straight from the store to eBay
2734 when I checked [ebay.com]. That might be one or two percent of the entire US supply so far.
Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:3, Interesting)
Not sure how much the shortage is actually real, but what I know is this morning, while eating breakfast, news reporters from several channels were talking about those people waiting in line since about midnight in anticipation of the store opening at 8am (for those stores that didn't take pre-orders). Then, when I got to work (at
how about $2550.00 ?? Completely nuts... (Score:3, Informative)
Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:3, Interesting)
Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:3, Funny)
Seriously, anyone who WOULDN'T sell their 360 for 10k needs to have their head examined.
Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:3, Informative)
That isn't true. I had a freind who got one off that Mt Dew contest and he knew that the money he could/would get for it was worth a hell of a lot more than the entertainment value of the system. Seems like a smart investment to me. Spend nothing, get some cash for it. Hell, if I could walk into a store right now and buy a system, I totally would, just to put it on ebay.
Damn, free market at it's best, if you ask me.
I don't know... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I don't know... (Score:3, Insightful)
1. It's rumoured to have a lower price tag.
2. You get free access to Nintendo's back catalog of games (excl. GCN games) going back to 1985.
Therefore, right out of the box, you've got access to tons of games. And if you're in your late 20's or 30's, you probably won't need much more than those games. Throw in a couple physically-oriented games that use that gyroscopic wand and you're all set.
Re:I don't know... (Score:5, Interesting)
Not free access. Many, many Nintendo reps (including president Iwata) have gone on record saying not free. You'll pay. You won't pay much, but you'll pay.
Re:I don't know... (Score:5, Funny)
This Iwata guy has got to be the nicest super villan ever.
Re:I don't know... (Score:2, Offtopic)
I believe the apt onomatopoeia for this situation is "woosh."
The post you are responding to is a good example of the need for a "sarcasm" tag around here. No matter how obvious your ironic humor is, there's always a few people who will reply before realizing the intention of your remarks.
Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:2)
Like teenagers or college kids in dorm rooms.
Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:5, Interesting)
Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:3, Interesting)
I agree, although I should point out that the original Xbox also works great as a game player -- an emulation game player. After sturggling for years waiting for the Dreamcast's SNES emulation to improve, I finally bought an Xbox and softmodded it. Now I have XBMC for tonnes of media playback, and some really nice SNES, Genesis, and even a few PSone games under emulation. All with just one gizmo cluttering under the televisio
Actually if you read the HARDOCP review (Score:5, Interesting)
I was actually impressed with its ability to work with other devices to include an iPOD and PsP. The nice thing about this machine is that it really is expandable as wireless gives them many options. You will probably see an addon keyboard/mouse combo one day.
There are many of us out here who don't need our PCs to program on, we have them for games, other entertainment, e-mail, and surfing. Give me an insta-on box with those features and I may just consider it. The XBOX360 is actually the first console I am seriously considering because of the potential.
Playing DvDs is a bonus, if it means one less component I have to hook up or keep up with all the better. People harped on the PS2 for the same reason yet I know many who have one for that very reason.
Just because its Microsoft doesn't make it wrong which seems to be your whole beef against it. (who made it)
(allow me to run some IBM style emulator/vpn over the net with a wireless keyboard and I really really need a PC even less)
Re:Actually if you read the HARDOCP review (Score:5, Interesting)
There are many of us out here who don't need our PCs to program on, we have them for games, other entertainment, e-mail, and surfing. Give me an insta-on box with those features and I may just consider it. The XBOX360 is actually the first console I am seriously considering because of the potential.
That's the point I think is being missed. After everything is said and done, the thing is still, design-wise, pretty much a glorified PC. Microsoft has come out with a proprietary platform which they're using the gamer market to propagate. They can gradually add other functionality to increase it's market.
Don't be surprised when it eventually evolves into what amounts to the Microsoft version of the Mac.
Re:Actually if you read the HARDOCP review (Score:2)
No. Microsoft refused to let people connect keyboards and mice to the original Xbox. Why? Because they don't want to make this become a PC.
This is more trying to be Microsoft's version of the TiVo. Even that comparison isn't really apt, its just a console that wants to be everything to everyone.
Re:Actually if you read the HARDOCP review (Score:5, Interesting)
What, you mean kinda like this [intellivisionlives.com]?
The fact of the matter is every console is pretty much a "glorified PC" (or a "dumbed down" PC, depending on your perspective), and every single time - yes, every single time a new console is released, the manufacturer claims that it's going to do this, that and the other thing eventually, or that it's going to converge a whole bunch of devices into one. This is true going all the way back to the Odyssey II and Atari 2600, which also promised PC functionality. The Sega CD and NEC Turbo CD were the first (or among the first) to then promise home entertainment functionality once optical storage became the norm.
The reality is people just don't care. A few do, and those are the kind of people that sued Mattel when they never actually released their promised keyboard component from lack of interest (they only had something like 4,000 orders, which meant they couldn't get the component cost low enough to make a profit). Those people can be very vocal. They're the real hardcore. They're on the internet complaining when companies don't release promised add-ons, they're the ones that always have to be the contrarians when someone like me points out that they're the minority.
But they are the extreme, extreme minority. I agree with the parent poster who said as soon as the next hot console comes along, gamers will abandon the Xbox 360, because it really is about the games and only about the games, and it always will be. This is not going to be some great window into the living room. It is simply the console of the moment, and in five years it will be forgotten like every other console of the moment. MS is not creating some sort of home entertainment "standard" with the Xbox 360.
It never ceases to amuse me how people say the exact same things every time a new console is released. "It's going to do all these great things besides playing video games! It's revolutionary!" Ha! So in other words, it's just like every other console ever.
Re:Actually if you read the HARDOCP review (Score:3, Funny)
"What's the difference between an XBox 360 and a Mac?"
"Nothing, neither has games! HAHAHAHA!"
Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:3, Insightful)
That would be true except that you seem to have ignored the fact that new games will be constantly released for the system for at least the next 4-5 years.
Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:2)
~S
Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:2)
a media center (Score:3, Insightful)
Yup. Its perfect for college students and the like who have to pick up and move every few semesters and share stuff with other people. Why stock up on a lot of equiptment when a XBOX will function as your multimedia center?
-everphilski-
Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:3, Interesting)
Not if it's hackable. If I knew the Xbox 360 were going to be hackable, I'd be more interested in buying one now, at full price. Since it might not be (odds are, even if it is, it will be a much bigger PITA than the Xbox) I'm not buying one until either hacks come out or the price comes down quite a bit.
Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:2)
Yes, but they don't make money off you hacking it. Even at full price, it's still sold at a loss.
Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah, they'll make a killing since they didn't spend a penny on advertising, manufacturing, research and development, haggling with developes, distribution... nigga, please.
Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:3, Insightful)
Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:3, Insightful)
Actually, by living in a rural area in a poor part of the state, I've found it EASIER to find the must-have systems (well, I've only been here for the Nintendo DS and sony PSP) available on launch day. I'm not sure if the K-mart two towns over still has 360's 'cause I don't need one and don't have a reason to be near there today, but I'm sure that it took them at least several hours to sell out if they did.
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Re: Microsoft is in for the long haul (Score:5, Interesting)
See, that's the thing. I believe more people than you give credit will use it as both a media center and a game console. Essentially anyone living in a smaller space like an apartment will like the idea being able to play games, watch movies and listen to music--all in high-definition and surround sound--without having a big (and expensive) stack of components.
In addition, the console brings something pretty new to the scene. Now, if you have video or audio stored on your computer you can play it on your 360 via wireless or wired networking. Why try to watch content on your computer from an uncomfortable chair using poor speakers watching on a small monitor when instead you can watch it from the comfort of a coutch on a large TV screen (YMMV here).
Is the 360 some magical gift from God? Obviously not, but in the same token it's not the same game console we played back in 1985. Also, nobody should make it sound like it's a big Microsoft ploy to hype this up as much as they can. Sony is just as bad (if not worse in some ways) about hyping up anything new they release. Nintendo doesn't seem to be quite as bad, but they still do some crazy stuff [1up.com] to try and get attention [vgcats.com].
Edge? (Score:5, Funny)
In short, people will wait for the next-gen offerings from Nintendo and Sony.
So...... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:So...... (Score:5, Funny)
Just before a chair is hurled through your window with a Cease and Desist letter attached to it.
do it and we'll bury you, love steve
So is there a sight for posting pools on the interent as to when the first article will appear on /. announcing a successful 1) Linux install 2) Mod chip ?
Re:So...... (Score:2)
Fry's Line (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Fry's Line (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Fry's Line (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Fry's Line (Score:3, Interesting)
I was in line at 7 am Monday for the midnight sale - and was #91 in line. It was quite the experience being there. I don't r
To the edge and beyond (Score:5, Funny)
Gee, Microsoft are really taking viral marketing to new heights here. Move over iLoveBees...
Ridiculous people (Score:5, Informative)
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For those that haven't gone blind yet (article minus the blinding blue theme): http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/22/17462
Re:Ridiculous people (Score:3, Insightful)
Then again $2K isn't a large slice of the XBox marketing budget. It might be worth it to Microsoft for breathless media reports of XBoxes going for $2K on EBay.
Re:Ridiculous people (Score:2)
Dude, I've seen eBay listings at over $2k, and I've heard earlier in this thread that one has sold for $5k.
My original thesis was this: People's intelligence halves in front of a computer.
My new one: People's intelligence quarters in front of a game console.
I'm at a loss here. Are these the only ones being manufactured? Or is having a new toy now just that important?
Re:Ridiculous people (Score:2)
and the x-box? (Score:2)
Coat Tails Man! Coat Tails! (Score:2)
Re:and the x-box? (Score:2)
Re:and the x-box? (Score:2, Insightful)
It launched? (Score:5, Funny)
Long lines == No food (Score:3, Funny)
Played It (Score:5, Informative)
But thankfuly not my pixel junkie mate and I got to play it. Overall it seems really solid but out of the 4 games he got, nothing grabbed me. His long wait for a native title that can push this new system to its limit has begun.
It appears the Microsoft plan is working... (Score:2)
Re:It appears the Microsoft plan is working... (Score:2)
My 360 shipped Friday (the Coscto bundle) and is due to arrive on the 28th (shipping from infamous Ontario, CA). Looking forward to using it as a MCE extender and Christmas gift for the kids.
eBay (Score:5, Informative)
Re:eBay (Score:2)
Then again, there probably is someone crazy enough to pay that much. I wish I had thought to wait in line to make a few grand on ebay.
HA HA HA (Score:5, Funny)
Re:eBay (Score:5, Interesting)
The cost of such an astroturfing operation is the eBay listing fees and that's it. Pretty cheap for a lot of buzz.
Just a thought.
Re:eBay (Score:2)
Re:eBay (Score:2)
Microsoft Xbox 360 - Game console NO RESERVE!!! L@@K!!!
GET IT NOW SOLD OUT!!PERFECT FOR THE RICH SPOILED KID!
Out first=Clear Advantage? (Score:5, Insightful)
1. No HD-DVD or Blu-Ray- whatever happens with this media format debacle, the people with the new 360 out now wont have it.
2. Future Version Product Confusion/Backlash- Because of the above, when they begin to release future updated hardware versions of the 360, the market will be confused as to what they should purchase. Its not a new system, but it has new features this time around. Will there be expensive add-ons to accommodate current owners? Because those who have the old and not the new are gonna be pissed that they didn't get the finished system. This isn't the slim-downed PS2 I'm talking about here. That was a cosmetic change or downgrade option(imho), this will be a complete technical upgrade.
3. Debut game lineup-What lineup? If I don't like sports or shooting Nazi's... not much left, maybe Kameo. Much of the "meat and potatoes" was delayed past X-mas, creating a weird kinda of late winter "secondary launch".
4.All they are competing with is heresay and conjecture-The hard and fast realities of the PS3 and Revolution are still out in the open. So a decision by the consumer is hard to make, because no real comparison can be made. This will inevitably create a bubble of "undecided". Although with how rabid gamers can be, there will always be those too impatient to wait.
I'm no fanboy, I own all three of the current generation and agree all have things about them I like. It just seems to me that we've got a situation here where the 4th grader has rushed to finish his test first and hand it in to the teacher so he can look back at the class and say "I'm done first". Even though he did a sloppy job, didn't fully answer each question and in the end didn't get a great grade.
Re:Out first=Clear Advantage? (Score:4, Insightful)
2. Future Version Product Confusion/Backlash - I don't see the problem here. This happens with every generation. Backward compatibility has always been a sore spot, and even the PS2 didn't fully support EVERY PS1 game out there.
3. Debut game lineup-What lineup? - See, now, here's where you and I differ. I see a console built for 21-34 somethings with an 18-game launch. Those 18 games more or less cater to that demographic: shooters, sports and racing. The only thing really missing from the launch is platformers, and that usually only covered well by Nintendo's launches. Kameo looks to be a good game for the kids, and that's all I really need to justify the purchase for the family: one good game for them.
4.All they are competing with is heresay and conjecture - This happens with EVERY launch with EVERY console. It's a part of the entertainment industry. From the beginning of the first medieval jester's appearance, likely announced with "this'll be the funniest thing you see ever", there's been hype. That "bubble of undecided" always exists, and it's always negated by market whims.
In short, don't read too much into this. If you're a gamer you'll get all 3 regardless. I'm a gamer: I'm getting all 3.
Poorly Managed Release. Traders making money. (Score:4, Interesting)
What? (Score:2)
Sony should lower the price of PS2 to $99 (Score:5, Interesting)
sony audio cd? (Score:5, Funny)
what a tough decision..
we hate MS because their evil..
we now hate sony because their evil..
nintendo games suck because they're not evil..
what's a geek to do.
I hope this drive Linux dev for PPC (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:I hope this drive Linux dev for PPC (Score:3, Interesting)
My problem with gaming... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:My problem with gaming... (Score:3, Insightful)
Therefore we aren't their target demographic.
Pretty screenshots sell more games than actual gameplay does. Sad, but true.
fake shortage may backfire (Score:5, Insightful)
While the intended effect is to create a buzz that encourages a christmas buying frenzy, it could backfire just as well. The original Xbox launch had an enormous supply. I wasn't really looking to buy an xbox at the time, but I happened to be in Best Buy 2 days after the launch, so I decided to give it a shot.
Today, Xbox 360's are selling for nearly $2,000 on ebay. Not even a package, just the system. The "shortage buzz" will certainly keep casual purchasers away and I'm sure quite a few people might decide to wait a few months for the ps3.
Not Trolling, just bitter (Score:4, Insightful)
Why not buy an XBox original and get oodles of games for it if you don't already have a system. You get way more entertainment bang for your buck. I guess keeping up with the Joneses is more important these days than it's ever been in the past?
The media coverage this thing is geting makes me nearly sick. It's on the radio, the TV, and in print. I've only heard one reviewer say they wouldn't buy their kids the system because it's going to be at least $150 less in 6 months. Don't these parents realize that their heating bills are going to be about 50% more this year?
Status symbol. (Score:3, Insightful)
Chicks want useless shiny rocks, guys want useless shiny electronics.
Re:Not Trolling, just bitter (Score:5, Funny)
You know that guy Dvorak... You know about his praise of the menus... Well... Lets just say they are really good menus.
Re:Bitterness over other's success or excesses (Score:3, Insightful)
I mean seriously how is forking over $400 for a toy some sort of success in your life? If you equate buying things with success you need a reality check. Currently us Americans are spending more than we earn. If we continue this trend we are going to be in trouble. They tell us to keep spending, it's good for the economy, etc. But it's bullshit.
Re:Bitterness over other's success or excesses (Score:3, Interesting)
Why do you have a computer then? Why do you have a house? Why don't you live in a small hut with 15 other people?
This "we should spend the extra $$$ to the 3rd world" is nonsense. Fine, spend it! But be aware that the poor WILL NOT GET THE MONEY. Instead, your money will end in the pockets of the ultra-rich 1% in the 3rd world.
You want to help? Push your country to open trade with the 3rd
Re:Not Trolling, just bitter (Score:3, Insightful)
The whole world is my neighbourhood though, as it is your's. The mistaken belief that it is not is the reason things like Sept. 11 was so shocking to people here. Things we do in North America are felt all around the world, and if we act like affluent ignorami, then we're going to have the rest of the world rather pissed off at us. There's nothing wrong with success, unless you rub other peoples noses in it, then it's about one-upma
Any Good Games? (Score:2)
Look at the calendar (Score:2)
Check Out the Innovation! (Score:3, Interesting)
- nuff said
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I got mine! But overpriced! (Score:3, Informative)
But I have to admit it probably isn't worth the price for everybody except the hardcore. It's waaaay pricer than what I payed for my original Xbox on launch day.
I payed:
$400 XB360 Premium bundle.
$50 Extra controller
$100 WiFi adapter for Xbox (my TV is not where my router is setup; had to buy it
$60 Madden
$60 Quake 4
In total I payed around $700 including tax. That's basically with 2 games and an extra controller. If tt wasn't for the WiFi it would have been closer to $600.
Personally, I think I payed too much relative to the enjoyment factor. Quake4 is great but there is some MAJOR frame rate issues with that game, but my friend got PGR3 and it is absolutly beutiful, but the gameplay isn't my taste (personally prefer the Burnout-style gameplay to this "Kudos" system).
While I'll say that I'm happy with my XB360, I wouldn't recommend buying one to anybody else until PS3 comes out and MS drops the price of the console. Also, there is no killer-app that's worth the price, and graphics aren't any better than what you would get from a well-equiped PC. But I know Halo 3 will be out for it someday, so it's good enough for me.
Zero Hour (Score:4, Interesting)
I am impressed how well Live is integrated with the console. When we got there, they gave us a free memory unit and helped us transfer our Live account on it. Then we were able to play on Live wtih the number of games that were available. I think Live will dominate over whatever Sony has to offer as far as online integration with the console.
Despite being not overly impressed with any of the titles, there was one that my buddy and I played for over an hour. It was from Live Arcade (a number of small titles you can download from Live). The game was called Geometry Wars. Yes, strangely enough, it wasn't the multi-million dollar developed games that won my game of the show, but this small independently developed game you can download from Live.
I'll wait around like I did with the original Xbox before I get one. Same thing goes with the PS3. Comes back to what we said many a time: good games make good consoles.
Re:Zero Hour (Score:5, Insightful)
I feel about 10x more connected to people on my friends list than I did on the original Xbox. It's no longer this separate "play online" section - you're ALWAYS playing online in one way or another, with scoreboards or directly against opponents.
I really think that anyone with a 360 and broadband needs to at LEAST make sure they're connected with a silver account, even if you don't want to pay the $50 to play online. It adds that much.
Half of Gamers Waiting (Score:3, Interesting)
Well at least I know I'm not alone.
Minimal Microsoft Association (Score:4, Interesting)
Some of the consoles faulty ?! (Score:5, Informative)
This thing is too loud and too hot! (Score:3, Informative)
I had it outside my stereo cabinet, I couldn't take the noise. So I put it inside, and it gets far too hot with the door closed, and with the door open it's as loud as outside the box and even hotter! And I even made sure to put the enormous power supply outside the cabinet.
This stinks. I didn't expect to have to mod my living room to play this thing.
Yes. (Score:3, Funny)
This is truly a groundbreaking new system!
/Got Gamertag?
Re:Who cares? (Score:2)
Re:Who cares? (Score:2)
Why don't you do that instead of reading Slashdot?
Re:Hmm. (Score:3, Informative)
PS3 - BluRay DVD. That'd be the big one.
Re:I tried to find a store in Maryland... SOLD OUT (Score:2)
He's not even interested in it, but everybody got the same talk.
Re:I tried to find a store in Maryland... SOLD OUT (Score:2)
Re:I tried to find a store in Maryland... SOLD OUT (Score:2)
Re:I tried to find a store in Maryland... SOLD OUT (Score:3, Interesting)
Employees don't get discounts on systems anyhow since th
Re:I admit it (Score:5, Insightful)
Lest you forget, they also make an Operating System. They also make media apps. Why are you upset about greater competition in the console market? That should benefit all of us.
2. "The first X-Box was just a PC in a box."
Ata fraction of the cost. Tons of people won't spend $1k to buy a new computer, but $300 for a console is fine.
3. "The name is stupid and personifies what I hate about this machine and its community"
What does this have to do with anything? Is the Dreamcast, or the Revolution, any better? Who cares what it's called.
4. "The game library will mostly just be PC ports and Playstation ports"
See above comment re: PC-in-a-box. Also, as a social activity, gaming on a PC with a few friends just sucks. Much easier to sit on the couch.
5. "At least with the Playstation 3, it has the appeal of being the absolute top hardware"
Hah. It's not so different from the 360. By the time the PS3 launches, it won't be near the top, compared to first-class gaming rigs.
6. "Instead of letting the product sell itself based on its own value, as other companies do (a cliched example, but see Apple and its iPod...all Steve Jobs had to do was hold up an iPod nano to the camera, and everyone was SOLD on it)"
You really crack me up. Apple spent millions and millions to market the iPod brand.
"this thing is just a shareholder-driven profit grab"
Now, a profit grab would imply that MS is making a profit on these. They are building a long-term business with the 360, not grabbing profits.
"not a genuinely fantastic product from a company that actually makes games and game consoles and belongs in that market
I won't claim to know if the 360 is fantastic or not, but like it or not: MS makes game consoles and they also make games. By your rationale, shouldn't Sony stick with audio equipment, and get the hell out of the game console market?
It's obvious you hate MS. That's fine. By why are you upset that they released a product YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY? Or are you just upset that it gets press?
Re:I admit it (Score:3, Interesting)
How long do you think this "competition" will last? The console market is not currently profitable at Microsoft, but they have their sights at the long term. And do you know what the long term goal is? Allow me illustrate to you their goal with evidence from Microsoft's hisotry of business practices:
Microsoft will keep throwin
Re:I admit it (Score:2)
2) Why were they duped? The fact that it used many parts exchangeable with PCs actually increased its popularity since it was easier to mod.
3) It may seem stupid to you and me but the advertisers know what they're doing and they're probably right as far as the bottom line is concerned.
4) Valid enough argument against any console, but then there was Halo.
5) Perhaps, though it's too early to compare to the other consoles.
6) Well
Re:I admit it (Score:2)