Jack Thompson Tossed Out Of Court 381
dmouritsendk writes "According to a story at IGN, Jack Thompson has been removed from the lawsuit filed by the families of two murdered police officers vs. Rockstar, Sony and game retailers. While previously he stated that he had withdrawn, details have now come out that the judge actually pulled his temporary license to practice law in Alabama. The reason for all this? Thompson's behavior." From the article: "The removal of Thompson from the case does not necessarily represent the end of the trial as his long-time associate Ray Reiser will assume the role of lead counsel for the case's plaintiffs. Not one to take such things lying down, Thompson fired back at Judge Moore by claiming the the judge has 'has violated... The Alabama Canons of Judicial Ethics by his unfortunate, improper, and prejudicial acts in this case, at the expense of three bereaved Alabama families.'"
Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:2, Funny)
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Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:5, Funny)
What is the advantage to trying to rack up a whole lot of karma, when from what I understand it's already capped? My karma read "excellent" quite some time back, and since then I've gotten high karma on most of my points (it must be my trim Buddha-ish physique)... but other than having two initial points instead of one when my posts are submitted, I don't see how things are any different, nor have I seen anything change since then.
If we rack up massive karma points, do we cross some threshhold? Do we suddenly start seeing articles before they're actually written, or do women start showing up at our door? I'd whore my karma all over the place if the chicks dig it.
Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:3, Insightful)
Posting as AC to avoid Karma Whoring....
The problem with KW is that it takes about 5 seconds to cut & paste an article or provide a really obvious link. This action may be very useful (esp. in
Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:5, Informative)
The short version is that he's a guy on a crusade against video games. One longer version can be found Here. [wikipedia.org]
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The universe is a figment of its own imagination.
Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:3, Funny)
Couldn't Google or Wikipedia for his name, could you???
The only person who's dumb enough not to do that is...OMG IT'S YOU, JACK THOMPSON!
Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:5, Informative)
The funny part being that the things he claims happens in these games, many times is false; whether lie by ignorance or intent I'll leave an excercise to the reader.
He also appears to believe that his internal thought process is the one most likely for the US government to follow, and displays genuine surprise (and shock) when this is not the case, as in recently when he tried to get Gabe and Tycho of Penny Arcade locked up. Because they posted a blog indicating what a dick he was being to them and their loyal readers took affront to this mistreatment and wrote to tell him so; some of them not so politely, as I understand it.
One may also speculate that the massive traffic from Penny Arcade shut down his web server. But you can hardly blame that on PA can you?
The funny part is, it was all because Jack promised $10,000 to the charity of choice of the first game development team that made a video game with a certain (particularly twisted) plotline, I guess to prove some sort of point (its my understanding that Jack is given to hyperbole)... when someone came through and made a (pretty extensive) mod to GTA putting Jack in the gunman's shoes raiding and shooting the employees of game stores, he refused to pay up.
So Penny Arcade went ahead and paid up. That, apparently, is what started all of this.
I recommend going through Penny Arcade's recent news archive for more details...
Oh and thinkgeek DOES sell an "I hate Jack Thompson" T-shirt if you're interested...
Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:3, Funny)
You misspelled "misguided opinions" in your post.
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Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:2)
This is a little offtopic, but not too far.
Humans are violent animals that are more often than not rewarded for being violent, even if it is against their own species. What evidence (if you believe in evolution to some extent) is there that we lost that hunter drive?
We get together in by the thousands to over a hundred thousand people to watch modern hunting games like soccer, football, basketball, etc.
We also get off on k
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What is different about humans, apparently, is our sense of shame about our violence. Humans seem to be alone among all creatures in believing they are out of place in the evolved order. Humans alone seem to regret doing what all other animals do instinctively, without remorse.
Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:5, Funny)
Please don't use the term "Christian" to refer to Jack Thompson, for the same reason that you shouldn't use the term "monkey" to refer to George W. Bush.
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Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:5, Interesting)
Morality in the context of Jack Thompson must refer specfically to religious morality. As a Zen Buddhist I care nothing for his Christian morality. Neither, incidentally, does the justice system of the United States of America.
Yes, I truly hate the man; both for purposefully deceiving America about what is involved in my favorite hobby with the intent of attaching a social stigma to the practice of such, for striving to make the practice of this hobby impossible for me and many others through barring and outlawing the content, and for trying to hold responsible the makers of videogames for acts which should be laid firmly at the foot of the persons doing these heinous deeds, or in some cases, partially at the feet of their parents.
Yes. I can hate a man that does those things. And I don't feel any need to pander to some so called moral high ground... I'm not trying to convince anyone I'm right. I know I'm right. If other people want to believe me, great. If not, well that's their choice. I'm pretty sure that if you stood me and Jack Thompson in a room together for five minutes on national television, and I said the most inflammatory hateful things that is in my soul to say, that I would STILL come out of the debate looking far more credible.
Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:5, Insightful)
To a man like this, his religion is a tool. It's one he brandies about and waves to get what he wants. Sure he likes to wave his Bible around and pretend that God is personally on his side. But if you were to show him some Biblical passages about freedom of choice and the ability of lawyers to turn darkness into light and so on... well I'm pretty sure he'd just rip those pages out and burn them on the courthouse steps...
Filet-O-Fish (Score:3, Interesting)
I resent that remark! The Filet-O-Fish is my favorite sandwich at McDonalds and is made from real fish. If you buy one, it probably comes out of the a little factory in Gloucester, Ma that also processes Gorton's premium fishsticks. It's a real fish product made here in the USA.
Besides, you never know what the "church down the street" might
Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:5, Funny)
Whoa. Question: I thought that Jack Thompson was the tool.
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Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:3, Insightful)
You need to do more than just laugh him off. Jack Thompson and his ilk associate themselves with your religion. You need to proactively fight against the influences of such people. Otherwise people like myself and the OP will continue to associate them with Christianity.
Just look at how Islam has been progressively villainized in the past 50 years. Why is this? I
Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:3, Funny)
I think he's a fundamentalist Buddhist.... See, there's the difference.
Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:5, Insightful)
Have you even read any buddhist writings? It's called the center path - and is the only path to enlightenment. You say that you prefer a different translation to the Siddhuartha and believe that ignoring desire is the root of all evil. That's called being selfish and self centered. That is not enlightenment, that is a cop out.
Can you actually say you are a better person because you do whatever you want to do? Because that means you know nothing of restraint or sacrifice.
I don't believe that hatred and enlightenment are incompatible.
Let me appeal to your "Zen" more than the "Buddhism" with this quote:
If hatred and enlightenment are not incompatable to you, that is because you are not enlightened.
Perhaps you meant violence and enlightenment are not incompatable.
Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:3, Interesting)
And I never said that I do whatever I want to do and call it religion.
Nor did I say that I believe that knowledge of restraint and sacrifice are required to be spiritual.
I merely said that unfulfilled desire is the root of all evil. That's just one sentence. I don't believe that means I should have my every desire fulfilled; only that I don't believe it's wrong to have desires and passions that are fulfilled.
Nor do I believe one must purge oneself of all desire to attain
Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:3, Insightful)
Where did I ever claim I was a buddhist? I claim that you sir are not a buddhist, and if you are - you're a really shitty one.
You claim to be a Zen Buddhist, yet you warp the teachings to coincide with what you believe them to be, that's not how it works my friend. If you want to go and behave in any way you want and then claim you subscr
Jack Thompson is a lawyer (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't think that the parent post is necessarily a troll. If you haven't been following the gaming press or reading Slashdot every day, he's not that hard to be unaware of. My mother certainly doesn't know who he is.
Jack Thompson is a lawyer who, for one reason or another, has attempted to attack violent games in the media.
It's actually getting to be very hard to obtain any accurate, netural information on him at all -- so many of the people online play video games and are scared of what they think that he might push through that almost all information is biased -- the Wikipedia article [wikipedia.org] on him is definitely not particularly neutral, and the gaming press dislikes him for obvious reasons.
Combine that with the fact that the man is a political conservative and a Christian (pretty obvious from his website [wikipedia.org]) and given to rather inaccurate rhetoric, and you basically wind up with every article or online writing about him becoming a flamefest.
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He ain't one of us (Score:5, Funny)
<baptist class="southern" politics="conservative">
Just so we're all clear on this, please do not infer that his chosen affiliation with various political or religious groups means those groups want anything to do with him.
I look forward to the upcoming religious holiday, visiting the church of my youth, and logging some serious GTA:SA time. And while we're at it, the Kansas School Board can kiss my evolved butt.
</baptist>
Re:He ain't one of us (Score:5, Insightful)
Who are "my people"? Interestingly, I'd never heard of Agape Press until you mentioned them.
Again, you have the unwarranted presumption that the words of one group speak for another group only tangentially related. Marilyn Manson is a professed atheist. He's said a lot of goofy things over the years, but I don't feel the need to use his song lyrics to "prove" that all atheists are drug-obsessed nihilists.
Re:He ain't one of us (Score:4, Interesting)
The core Southern Baptist belief is that asking praying to God in the name of Jesus Christ and asking him to forgive you for the bad things you've done means that you get to spend eternity in his presence after you die. That is one of the main, unarguable tenets - if you don't believe that, then you can't be a member of a Southern Baptist church.
The Southern Baptist Convention publishes lists of position statements [sbc.net] and their basic beliefs [sbc.net]. Although they explicitly declare positions in other areas of theological debate, they conspicuously offer no opinion on creation versus evolution.
Many churchmembers share my opinion: God created the Universe and all life in it, with scientific evidence currently supporting the theories (in the scientific sense) of the Big Bang and evolution, respectively. He made a complex and beautiful world for us, and gave us the intelligence and curiosity to learn how he did it.
Although certain individual churches or leaders may have expressed opinions on these subjects, it's important to know that the Southern Baptist Convention is more of a coalition than a hierarchy (as opposed to, say, the Roman Catholic Church). To the best of my knowledge, no broadly recognized authority requires adhering to belief in a 6000-year-old planet or "intelligent design".
I really didn't mean to be so long-winded. In summary, you can be a Southern Baptist in good standing without agreeing with every other Southern Baptist on every single issue. Some shared beliefs are very important to us, but I don't believe that this is one of them.
As far as violent video games, my personal belief is that they're probably not "solid nourishment" for your mind. A mental diet of GTA:SA is probably no better for your inner self than a physical diet of Pixie Stix would be good for your body. On the other hand, the occasional Pixie Stix is yummy and not likely to hurt you, unless you're genetically predisposed to react poorly to that trigger.
Re:Who is Jack Thompson? (Score:5, Funny)
A: He's the guy who's going to sue the judge who threw him out of court for damaging his reputation and hurting his chances of winning his case.
A: He's the guy who's going to sue Slashdot for mentioning his name in a forum that is strongly biasted against stupidity.
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What can I say but... (Score:4, Funny)
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Hmm (Score:2, Funny)
Maybe the judge saw his book on Amazon (Score:3, Funny)
Grinning from ear to ear. (Score:5, Funny)
*plays Final Fantasy IV victory fanfare and dances*
Re:Grinning from ear to ear. (Score:5, Interesting)
I've read some of the emails that he's sent out. Did you know that his wife got some sample packet of vaginal lubricant in the mail, and he uses that as evidence that Blank Rome (the opposing law firm), the judge, and the Republican Party are all out to get him? Fascinating stuff.
Re:Grinning from ear to ear. (Score:3, Funny)
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If Jack Thompson has done one thing for gamers it's made them laugh. He truly is the Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf of the videogame world.
Re:Let that be a lesson to you (Score:3, Insightful)
You're right. I don't like him at all, but did you notice I said "neo-con"? Surely you've noticed the theocratic tilt the Republican party has taken. Jack just fits in with this Bible-thumping, alarmist majority, and yes, that angers me. And no, I'm not a Democrat, either, though now even they are starting to pander to religious groups.
Lesson my ass.
Re:Let that be a lesson to you (Score:3, Informative)
Aha! One mystery solved.. (Score:3, Insightful)
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Jack needs to... (Score:5, Funny)
Oh, crap...
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Judge Moore FTW (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Judge Moore FTW (Score:2, Funny)
Quite the role model that Jack Thompson is (Score:2)
Don'cha come back no more... (Score:5, Funny)
insert quote... (Score:2)
about the south suffering from something other than the prevalance of fried food, here.
ugh, lawyers and their ways...
Advertisement. (Score:2, Funny)
Judge Moore (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Judge Moore (Score:2)
However, I honestly don’t remember... was Judge Moore ever reinstated? And if so, why?
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I like the story here [pluralism.org]:
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Asshattery (Score:5, Insightful)
In a prime example of karma, the defense submitted some of Thompson's own press releases to the Court as evidence of why he was unfit.
Re:Asshattery (Score:4, Interesting)
Satisfying three or more of these criteria warrants a diagnosis of psychopathy or sociopathy. Jack's in trouble, but until he's looked at, so are we.
Re:Asshattery (Score:3, Informative)
Look folks, there's a reason psychologists go to school for many, many years and get to prescribe drugs and such. Reading the DSM-IV-TR (or the IV, or the III-R, or the III, etc.) doesn't equip you to make meaningful decisions about anyone's mental health, much less your own.
Remember kids, undergraduate psych exists for one reason: to give the undergrads something to talk about after class.
And yes, I have an underg
DSM is not for kids (Score:3, Informative)
As another undergraduate psych major, I'd like to agree with the above post. Cut and pasting bits and pieces from DSM is a bad idea unless people understand what DSM is and how it works.
From the Wikipedia article [wikipedia.org]: The DSM provides
I think there needs to be a CSI:Miami Episode..... (Score:2)
Re:I think there needs to be a CSI:Miami Episode.. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:I think there needs to be a CSI:Miami Episode.. (Score:4, Informative)
To be fair, last night's episode wasn't any more contrived or ridiculous than any other episode they've made.
And the "twist" that the game designer is actually the secret "Wizard" that all the "players" turn their "points" into? Please.
No, the "Wizard" was a college kid who played himself to death. The game designer hired another goon to sell the weapons to the kids. Did you actually pay any attention to the episode?
Did you notice that the episode was NOT full of moralizing, "These kinds of games are ruining America," etc? The closest it got was one of the characters saying "This is why I stopped playing this game at home." It was just another plot device. The writers of CSI are not out to "get" the video game industry. They are doing what they always do, which is to take current events and spin them into a crappy story line.
In fact, I think the episode did a slight service to the cause, by portraying the kids as junked-out psychos who took something too far, instead of poor innocents who were corrupted by evil video games. Geez, people get so worked up.
Re:I think there needs to be a CSI:Miami Episode.. (Score:4, Interesting)
A Judge has revoked your license to practice law.. (Score:5, Funny)
a) Accept their judgement with good grace
b) Grudgingly accept the judgement but state that you believe it to be in error
c) Accuse the judge of breaking the law, of being biased against your clients and of generally being incompetant
If you're Jack Thompson you probably also do d) File a lawsuit against the judge for dismissing you.
He really needs..... (Score:5, Funny)
Karma? Stupidity? (Score:3)
As much as we hate Jack-o, I'm surprised... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:As much as we hate Jack-o, I'm surprised... (Score:2)
I take back... (Score:2)
...any bad thing I may have ever said about Alabama.
And now Jack can go home, sulk, and concentrate on suing Amazon [slashdot.org] for all the mean things people said about him.
.Jack Thompson replaced by Hunter Thompson (Score:2, Funny)
headline for 11-23-05 (Score:2)
In related news... what about the CSI episode? (Score:2)
Re:In related news... what about the CSI episode? (Score:5, Funny)
Dude. It was CSI. It was bad.
Re:In related news... what about the CSI episode? (Score:3, Informative)
"I'm not like that type [talking about murdering others], I'm not a gamer!"
It basically played on all the latest buzzwords and press. I know it's supposed to be fictional but they're clearly playing off recent events in the news and the least they could do is not show something as ridiculous as that.
They might as well have a story line [or a thousand] where some robe wearing muslim is planning to blow up an office complex or something
Tom
Next up... (Score:5, Funny)
Can we... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Can we... WHOOPS! (Score:2)
Watch out... (Score:2)
Anybody have a link to the actual decision? (Score:4, Interesting)
GO JUDGE! (Score:5, Insightful)
Seriously, its like a contest between Jack Thompson, Sony, and the RIAA to see who can bury themselves the fastest while at the same time sustaining the most bullet wounds to their feet.
Damn... (Score:5, Funny)
I can't help but jump in on this one (Score:3, Funny)
One is a scum-sucking bottom-dweller, and the other is a fish.
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Re:Woah (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.livejournal.com/users/gamepolitics/126
and
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/11/13/moore.tencomman
Re:"HOWTO: get a clue" won't help the likes of him (Score:3, Insightful)
He's part of the "no rules for us but strict rules for you" culture that in increasingly spreading - he thinks he should have a right to say anything