CNN Hands-On With The Revolution 150
The Game Over column over at CNN has a hands-on look look at the Nintendo Revolution and its unique little controller. From the article: "By adding an auxiliary thumbstick controller, I was able to play through a level of a retrofitted 'Metroid Prime 2' (a GameCube game). Confession time: When it comes to console shooters, I'm terrible. I can finish them, but I'm nowhere near as competent as I am with my mouse/keyboard setup for the PC. In the early stages of the 'Metroid' demo, it looked like this trend would continue, as I was all over the screen. By mid-way, though, I was better able to move and aim - and enjoyed the game far more than I did with the GameCube controller. ('Metroid' fans... well, you're probably already pretty excited.)"
so can't wait (Score:1)
That controller looks Amazing.
Re:so can't wait (Score:5, Funny)
Re:so can't wait (Score:5, Funny)
That controller looks Amazing.
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LOL! That's classic!
First-Person Shooters? (Score:4, Interesting)
"I was a developer for many years before my current role, but I've never been a very good gamer," Nintendo president Satoru Iwata told me. "I've never been able to control a first-person shooter, but as soon as I used the Revolution controller, I found it very easy to control the game. So, I think that's a genre that's particularly well suited for the controller."
I'm not sure first-person shooters would be the way to go, given comments in other threads about the 360. People who play FPS seem to want HD. I personally can't wait to try out the new controller and console, though. I'm hoping the controller inspires more creativity in game developers.
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You need to send an HD signal (Not ED) to get things started. Then you need to have a graphics chip able to actually drive that resolution.
Nintendo's 480p really wasn't that big of a deal. It's not until you get to 720p, or 1080i (or p for Sony) that things get interesting.
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I dunno... A part of me wants to get the 360 because of it really good looking FPS games, but then I remind myself how they played on the old Xbox and then I fire up Unreal Tournament 2004 on my PC.
Most console controllers are too clunky for FPS at least for me. The DS pen actually feels pretty good for the Metroid demo and I'd to see how the Rev controller works out.
Re:First-Person Shooters? (Score:1)
They do (well keyboards, at least). Any time there is an onscreen keyboard displayed(like when you recover your gamertag) you can plug in a USB keyboard and it will let you type. See here [thetriangle.org] for the first example I found with a quick search at google. So it is a conscious decision by MS or the developers not to support keyboard and mouse input, not a compatibility issue.
Besides, how are you going to write e-mails and type in URLs when they
Re:First-Person Shooters? (Score:3, Insightful)
I played games on a PC for many, many years. The first time I played Halo on an Xbox, I thought the control scheme was an abomination- who the hell thought it would work?
Now 4 years later, I do great on an Xbox 360..the
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fps on a console? (Score:1)
Re:fps on a console? (Score:5, Funny)
Please get outta the new one if you can't lend your hand,
for the times, they are a changin'.
Re:fps on a console? (Score:2)
2. It takes more than weeks to write emulators. Years. The "mature" emulators stop at the SNES/16-bit generation. There's just so much more complexity each new generation.
3. Emulation is veryyyyy slow. N64 emu's take a good computer to run (well, they did a year or two ago) and AFAIK there are no playable (i.e. non-buggy, fast, fully featured) gamecube/ps2 emulators (xbox is a x86 so not hard to emulate) Even the DS emulators can barely run bits of comercial games, the
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You can still plug gamecube controllers into the system and there will be a controller where you can dock the remote (like the Dreamcast controller and the VCU).
Like most DS games, there will probably be an option to use the old style of gameplay if you don't want to use the remote.
Re:fps on a console? (Score:1)
One of the Revolution's big draw for multi-platform games is its unique control scheme. If you negate that, then you all you have is graphics, and Nintendo has admitted that it will not play the graphics war.
Re:fps on a console? (Score:1)
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I'm hoping that they'll try to produce some games that are much different from a traditional FPS. They have the opportunity to do things that can't be done
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Just bought a gamecube this week, in fact, because I was tired of never having played Metroid Prime, Wind Waker, and Smash Bros despite finding the controller atrociously awkward. If they'd released an N64 controller that was compatible with Gamecube, I would've bought this stuff long ago and Nintendo would've made more money.
Re:fps on a console? (Score:1)
But what do you mean about the DS? If you're talking about the stylus, it's definately required for the new Castlevania (I don't have any other games). You can't kill bosses without drawing a special symbol.
Re:fps on a console? (Score:5, Insightful)
This is actually quite smart. They can go head-to-head with Sony and Microsoft and play by their rules, or they can change the rules and occupy a slightly different niche.
Re:fps on a console? (Score:2)
Err... Aren't Microsoft and Sony also saying that? Or did I miss when they brought out the 3D position based controllers for the PS2 and Xbox? When you look at it, everyone else is also forcing you to do it their way. It's just you happen to be used to "their way". The PS2 has USB ports. Why can't I plug in a USB keyboard and use WASD and a mouse f
Only console I'm seriously considering (Score:5, Insightful)
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Not that it is a big deal. I have back log of games to play on the current consoles anway.
I agree with what you said though - sounds like the Revolution is only console that is "different". Can you imagine playing all those funky party games in Mario Party with the new controllers?
Re:Only console I'm seriously considering (Score:1)
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Okay... maybe an Xbox 360 when Halo 3 comes out, but only if it's better than Halo 2 was. I felt burned when I excitedly got my Halo 2 that I had preordered. But no $sys$PS3
Re:Only console I'm seriously considering (Score:1)
thirded
What is this, digg?
You know (Score:4, Interesting)
Revolution Controller Rumble (Score:4, Interesting)
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Revolution Name (Score:2)
For once they have a good name and it's just the codename WTF. They should stick to it. Sounds a hell lot better than gamecube of N64.
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http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment
Look at any DS type story around March '04 and you'll see the same
Re:Revolution Name (Score:2)
From IGN [ign.com]:
Q: Is 'Revolution' the final name of Nintendo's new console?
A: No. Nintendo confirmed at E3 2005 that the title 'Revolution' is a codename. A final name for the new console has not yet been selected. It should be noted, however, that the company said the same thing of Nintendo DS, which ultimately proved to be the handheld's official name.
Re:Revolution Name (Score:2)
Same article we've been seeing for months (Score:1, Redundant)
There's no new information about the controller... or the system... this is basically just someone else who got to try out the demos from the TGS.
I get excited when I see news on the Revolution linked on Slashdot... but when it's the same article talking about how Revolutionary the controller is going to be, I get disappointed.
Oops, wrong genre! (Score:2)
Who else HATES when people say "shooter" meaning first-person shooter, rather than a shoot 'em up? [shmups.com]
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But we are part of a dying breed, of course...
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New Hot Coffee for GTA? (Score:1)
not just excited (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Nintendo had to do *something*... (Score:5, Insightful)
The only way in which Nintendo was bitch-slapped is Install Base. Nintendo still has higher quality games, more robust hardware, more innovative controllers, a hugely successful portable console line, and is much more profitable than either other company.
But of course, since they don't pay you to buy their consoles, they have a smaller install base, and are consequently still in business.
They didn't *have* to do anything to stay in the game. The fact that they chose to is the reason I am such a big fan.
Re:Nintendo had to do *something*... (Score:5, Informative)
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"Nintendo and Microsoft sold about the same number of consoles this generation, which is still a metric buttload less than Sony"
Re:Nintendo had to do *something*... (Score:2)
This is what I find interesting. Not only do people have choices (As opposed to 1985, when NES was clearly the top console), but I get the sense that more non-gamers had an NES back in the day compared to non-gamers having consoles today.
It seems like today consoles are branded as "something you buy if you are a gamer." The closest these non-gamers get to gaming today are games designed for casu
Re:Nintendo had to do *something*... (Score:2)
Oh, don't worry, they've announced several times that it's part of their strategy. The thing is shaped like a remote for a reason.
Re:Nintendo had to do *something*... (Score:1)
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Provide some constructive criticism or don't reply at all. We've all heard the "Nintendo is kiddie" line before. It's not clever, and it adds nothing to the discussion.
Re:Nintendo had to do *something*... (Score:2)
But most of the posters criticizing Nintendo are trolling, pure and simple. Instead of adding some insightful criticisms of the Revolution strategy (and there are a few), they just parrot the same old Nintendo-bashing rants: the "kiddie" rant, the "gimmicky" rant, and the "weak hardware" rant. It's not that those arguments have
Not even an original troll... (Score:1)
Allow me to say that you sound very smart when you spout off years-old bullshit.
Re:Nintendo had to do *something*... (Score:4, Insightful)
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D-Pads? Analog Sticks? "Gimmicky" rumble feature? Shoulder buttons? Come on. If Revolution takes off, PS3 will be introducing a gyroscopic accessory so fast it will make your head spin.
Re:Nintendo had to do *something*... (Score:1)
Re:Nintendo had to do *something*... (Score:1)
I have known it to happen, in the company my father works at had a chemical process patented out from under them.
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And exactly why is being last considered to be awful? They make a profit. They do well.
Microsoft sold the Xbox at a loss. The ONLY reason that the Xbox still lives that that your "microsoft tax" that you pay for with every PC sold goes to prop up the Xbox. If it was a private company that made the Xbox as its main product line, they would have gone under already. Nintendo does not have an OS monopoly or massive media holdings to prop up its game division, so it has to do thing a little differently -- like make a profit on games.
So, to me, as long as the company is healthy and selling products, does it really matter if they are #1? Let me put it this way: McDonalds is the #1 fast food franchise. Do you expect Taco Bell, Burger King or Wendy's to go under in the next six months because they are not #1? I don't.
The gaming market is big, and I do not mind a little competition. It keeps everybody on their toes. As long as you have three players, you WILL have a #1, a #2, and a #3. And as long as all three remain profitable, this is a good thing. At my house, my only console is a Game Cube. I purchased it because I have small children, and I wanted to be assured of being able to buy games without lots of blood and sex.
Re:Nintendo had to do *something*... (Score:2)
The same could easily be said for Sony's PS/PS2/PSP line. Deep pockets from other industries allowed entry into this one.
And you may say the Xbox has not turned a profit, but that is a short term view. Look at it over a period of 20 years and then try to draw conclusions about who made money in it and who did not and where things stand th
Re:Is he from Nintendo or NAMBLA? (Score:1)
Aime = Like"
According to Google's langauge tools, fils = wire (like filament). So... um... he likes electronics? Solder junkie?
Re:Is he from Nintendo or NAMBLA? (Score:1)
Aime = Like"
Well that is actually the right traduction, but you know you dont always choose your Last name, it usually comes from far in the past and probably have his own history
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Re:We shall see, personally I have my doubts (Score:2)
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And they will walk by it, just like they've been doing since the 70's.
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Good point -- and I can guess which system is going to get more attention from non- or semi-gamers. In the display case and at demo terminals, the Xbox 360 and PS3 really aren't going to look any more interesting to non-gamers than their current generation counterparts. Everyone knows what kids hunched over a control pad looks like -- Nintendo invented THAT in the 80s.
On the other h
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You know who I think of when I hear gamers talking about how they won't play Nintendo because it's uncool? The Icy Hot Stuntaz. Insisting that a console where the mainstream games aren't overcomplex baroque titles focussed on blood & tits is dumb is the kiddiest thing of all.
Adult game
Plus, and Minus one. (Score:1)
But then again it's no reason to think you're more mature because you play Nintendo.
Personnally, I enjoy my Nintendo systems a great deal, but I'm certainly NOT gonna base my VIRILITY on TOYS.
Re:We shall see, personally I have my doubts (Score:5, Insightful)
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Seriously, I have to chime in even though you've pretty much already said it. Nintendo doesn't sell as many units as Sony and Microsoft, but their consoles still show up in millions of homes, even if those homes already have a current generation console. That speaks volumes, IMO. Their games always focus on the total experience, not just the freakin graphics and frame
Re:We shall see, personally I have my doubts (Score:2)
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Standard controllers are natural now that I'm used to them, but I can still see them from the point of view of a non-gamer. It's not that they couldn't figure them out, it's just unnatural and takes more practice than it's worth. If you're not used to controllers, a good chunk of any game's difficulty is in the control scheme.
I can vaguely remember learning th
Re:We shall see, personally I have my doubts (Score:2)
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Okay, this is going to be regarded as elitist and it is. I just like to suggest the following. If you have trouble figuring out a console controller perhaps you should go back to the field and settle in the soil with the other vegetables.
I under
Re:We shall see, personally I have my doubts (Score:1)
Re:We shall see, personally I have my doubts (Score:1)
Perhaps you noticed the success of the Nintendo DS recently. Perhaps you read Nolan Bushnell's recent comments about how needlessly complex interfaces have scared away huge sections of the public over the last 15-20 years. A lot of people who don't play games now never will, true. But a great many people who don't play games now would do so if they were convenient and intuitive enough for them to buy into. Expect to see the Rev sold in non-specialist game sho
Re:We shall see, personally I have my doubts (Score:1)
Which, when you think about it, doesn't make sense. I mean, seriously, how many casual gamers do you know who care about FPSs? The FPS genre is the baby of the hardcore gamer, and they go on and on about it. Too many 'gamers' think their kill count in random FPS Y is the proof that they're a gamer. And what do you hear from Nintendo execs about the contr
Re:We shall see, personally I have my doubts (Score:1)
And yours, obviously, is the gold standard for anecdotal evidence.