Pokemon Gene Renamed Under Legal Threat 69
Gamasutra reports that the 'Pokemon' cancer-causing gene has been renamed after legal threats were made by Pokemon USA. From the article: "Scientific journal Nature reported that Pokémon USA, the subsidiary company of Nintendo established to control the Pokémon brand in America, threatened to sue the cancer research center on the understandable grounds that equating Pokémon with cancer was doing harm to the brand's image. Sloan-Kettering acquiesced to the company's demands and changed the gene's name to the more unobtrusive Zbtb7."
COMPROMISE! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:COMPROMISE! (Score:2)
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Why was it.. (Score:1)
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Wark! Wark! (Score:2)
I think they should've just called it POKEMOG.
So instead of Pidgey and Spearow, would it have Chocobo?
It's a slow news day everywhere, it seems. (Score:4, Funny)
Slow news (Score:2)
Re:Slow news (Score:1)
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Re:Change the name (Score:2)
Not flamebait, guys... (Score:1)
Cancermon! (Score:3, Funny)
Cancermon! I choose you!
Re:Cancermon! (Score:1, Funny)
-mon ending is from Digimon (Score:1)
Pokémon do not use the -mon suffix. You're thinking of Digimon. Did you mean "Kingler"?
photosensitive epilepsy (Score:4, Insightful)
Well, duuuuuuh. In the original case in Japan, after watching the Porygon episode, schoolkids were basically told "if you felt sick after watching that episode last night, you can go home right now." If you were a schoolkid, in Japan or elsewhere, what would you do? It doesn't take a Bart Simpson to jump at the chance to play hooky and get away with it.
Re:photosensitive epilepsy (Score:2)
Japanese kids watch Pokemon in school?? I thought they were supposed to be better educated than us!
The obvious reasons (Score:2, Informative)
1) Pokemon is a trademark; if you allow anyone to use a trademark for any reason you risk loosing the trademark because it can become a generic term.
2) The 'Pokemon' gene could cause a negative image of pokemon "my mother died of cancer because she caried the 'Pokemon-gene'!"
Re:The obvious reasons (Score:1, Funny)
Ref. Miller's Daughter the Queen v. Rumplestiltskin ?
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Re:The obvious reasons (Score:1)
Speak for yourself!
The original pocket monsters (Score:1)
[Pokémon] is an abbreviation or if you will a mashup of Pocket Monsters.
As opposed to Monster In My Pocket [toyarchive.com]?
Re:The obvious reasons (Score:3, Insightful)
Not true. There has to be a likelihood of confusion or deception [uspto.gov]. But your reason number 2 may be valid. It's a grey area though -- whether just because it's a gene associated with cancer is enough to turn the case in Nintendo's favor is questionable. The added "fame" [uspto.gov] of the Pokemon trademark might be enough to throw the case into their favor though.
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das Fuhrer of grammar nazi's.
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Re:The obvious reasons (Score:1)
They don't need to point anything out, and neither do you, fuck off. People like you try my patience a lot more than people who type a simple spelling mistake. Some people don't have the time to check every bit of spelling or grammar, they aren't writing for distinction. I wonder if things like that actually keep you awake at night as you lie in a fit of rage because some
Hmm.. (Score:1)
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Here you go: Sonic Hedgehog [wikipedia.org].
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In short, it's not a carcinogene! (sorry, I had to)
Harm to the brand's image? (Score:3, Funny)
Nintendo should protect their brand, but come on. This 'intrusion' on thier namespace is pretty obscure. It's not as if the research facility is using the name to get grants or sell drugs.
Personally I think it's cool. There is actually a gene named after Sonic the hedgehoge that has a role in developmental biology. I'd think that companies would be amused that they are being recognized in important scientific work.
Of course the researchers backed down. They have far more important things to spend their money on than defending pointless lawsuits. They should have renamed the gene NLCBMSMA (Nintendo Lawyers Can Bite My Shiny Metal Ass) or would they have been sued by Fox instead?
Re:Harm to the brand's image? (Score:1)
And I'm sure Nintendo wouldn't have given a shit if not for the fact that this gene causes cancer.
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Rob
Only if... (Score:2)
Seriously, though, trademarks (supposedly) only apply if you've sufficient overlap to create the possibility of genuine confusion. I believe the burger chain lost its case against the McDonald clan, for example, and Apple Computers only escaped because they didn't (at the time) overlap in any way with Apple Music.
Furthermore, "pokemon" (which translates to Pocket Monster) might not even be a valid trademark. If there was
Re:Only if... (Score:2)
Just because it's a portmanteau of "pocket" and "monster" (the combination of which was rather unique at the time anyway), doesn't make it public domain.
If it were, then pretty much EVERY trademark would be public domain.
Would this really be a bad thing? (Score:2, Insightful)
I think the brand is very much defined already. Let's face it, Kids are the main consumer of this type of game and I know of several demented middle schoolers who would love owning a game that has a gene that causes cancer named after it. The parents might be afraid the game could cause cancer, and that the two are linked; BUT having that fear would require the parents actually knowing which games their kids play, AND the name of that specific gene.
Then again, I am probably not giving credit too th
Funny... I thought... (Score:1)
Objection your honor! (Score:1)
Just to clear the air, I did work at a Wizards of the Coast retail store during the Pokemon card craze. And yes, the word Pikachu or whatever now does induce vomiting.
Good. (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Good. (Score:2)
Damn Laywers (Score:2)
Re:Damn Laywers (Score:3, Funny)
Dude! CANCER! Radiation! Chemotherapy! Dying bald kids! Their name would be tied to fewer deaths if somebody built the Pokemon Death Camp!
And the name of the 451st Pokemon will be... (Score:2)
Now to add that to the checklist of Pokemon whose name is very hard or impossible to pronounce... Gotta love them Japanese folk.
Gee big surprise. (Score:2)
The scientists that came up with the abbreviation thought they were being smart & funny and Nintendo thought otherwise.
It's not like their legal actions are threatening scientific progress or freedom of expr
Pokemon Company != Nintendo (Score:2)
Eh (Score:1)
If you get Ayds, you'll get lose weight and get slender!
No, the cat does not "got my tongue." (Score:1)
ignorant schmucks (Score:2)
Giving a "cute" name to an arbitrary gene is not equating the two.
Is the trend of cutesy names a good idea? Probably not? Might joe
six-pack not be able to differentiate between the two; using
context or realizing that the world is not, in fact, black and white? Possibly.
Karma points be damned (Score:2)