January Game Sales Explode, Wii Dominates 478
njkid1, as he does from time to time, passed us a link to a story on the GameDaily site. Today they're discussing the January NPD numbers for the games industry. In short, they're terrific. Software sales totaled $549 million for the month, up a staggering 53 percent over last year. Hardware sales were brisk as well, with the Wii selling around 436,000 units. Trailing behind were Microsoft and Sony, with 360 hitting 294,000 units sold and the PS3 selling 244,000 units. January had an extra week, which resulted in 'inflated' sales, but even after normalizing the data things were tremendous for the games industry in a month where there's normally a post-holiday slump.
The killer stat (Score:4, Interesting)
Sony loses money on each PS/3, in the hopes that they'll make it up with licensing fees from the games they sell.
Nintendo doesn't. AFAIK, they've yet to sell any of their consoles at a loss in an effort to gain marketshare.
So Sony is losing money to Nintendo on the front end (hardware) and the back end (software).
That's gonna hurt...
Hopefully... (Score:5, Interesting)
What's that? (Score:1, Interesting)
Good news for the rest of us: those expensive consoles are going drop prices quick or be forgotten. Consumers win when things like this get reported.
Re:A story in itself... (Score:1, Interesting)
Once the good games start rolling out for the PS3, and people realise that immersive graphics can only improve gaming, then the PS3 will come into its own, and the Wii will look like what it actually is: a great system for kids and people who want the console equivalent of party games. It's an honourable niche to fill.
The most telling number (Score:5, Interesting)
February's numbers should be interesting.
They're dominating even more in Japan (Score:5, Interesting)
http://kotaku.com/gaming/nintendo/hardware-wars-d
Here are the current hardware sales in the land of the rising sun for the week of February 4th to the 11th.
* Nintendo DS Lite - 201,177
* Wii - 78,550
* PSP - 32,175
* PLAYSTATION 3 - 23,431
* PlayStation 2 - 16,033
* Xbox 360 - 4,811
* Game Boy Advance SP - 980
* Game Boy micro - 884
I rather like the comment which noted the following:
Wii Sales > PSP sales + PS3 sales + PS2 sales + 360 sales + GBA sales + Micro sales
DS Sales > Wii Sales + PSP sales + PS3 sales + PS2 sales + 360 sales + GBA sales + Micro sales
Re:Numbers Not Really Surprising (Score:2, Interesting)
Wii is outselling PS3 almost 4:1
For every 1 PS3 there are almost 10 Xbox 360's
Sony = awesome?
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Re:Hopefully... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:A story in itself... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Troubling for Sony (Score:3, Interesting)
ROFLOL. Sorry, that's been one of my pet peeves for some time now. Check the box again. As pretty as they look none of the FF games (or Kingsdom Hearts) run in progressive scan (at least on the PS2). Some run in 16:9 widescreen, but they are all 480i.
FFXI is 480p on the X-box 360, and if you run Kingdom Hearts "Chain of Memories" through the Gameboy player you can get 480p on that.
The Wii at 480p seems right in line with the focus they've been given in the past.
Re:A story in itself... (Score:5, Interesting)
When was the last time Nintendo sold 500,000 consoles per month during a non-holiday season in just North America? Dude, that is a LOT of consoles. So many that the Wii has sold almost half as many units as the XBox 360 has sold in its entire lifetime. So many that Nintendo has already sold about 1/4 of the units that the Gamecube sold in its entire lifetime.
Think about that. 1/4 the number of Gamecubes in 1/4 of a year. Wow. I'd hate to be the guy who management is leaning on to improve Nintendo's production capacity.
Not Troubling for Sony (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Troubling for Sony (Score:1, Interesting)
Final Fantasy is all about the shiny graphics, and has been since FF6. (Yes, 6. 6 is one of the buggiest games to ever be released on the SNES. One of the character's abilities would actually crash the game.) 6 stopped the focus on the game and moved it onto the graphics. It added a 3D-ish world map, to the point where the airship actually moved in 3-D (which accomplished absolutely nothing game-play wise), and increased the graphical quality over the previous FF games.
It's no wonder that FF7 went all-out CGI, since 6 was already moving in that direction.
Hell, the most recent FF game went even further on the flashy graphics front, automating most of the actual gameplay and turning the game into a glorified 40-hour long movie.
FF has become Square's platform for showing off what they can do graphically. There's no way FF13 will be on the Wii, because they'd have to give up shiny and concentrate on the gameplay, something they stopped doing at FF6.
In fact, it's almost guaranteed that FF13 won't leave the PS3, since the PS3 has the most flashy CGI potential of all the next-gen consoles. At the very least, unless they want to release FF13 on multiple disks, Blu-ray is likely to be the only format that can hold all the crappy, time-wasting, non-game related CGI they love to shove into their games.
So it's fairly safe to say that Square's graphics showcase game series will not ever see the Wii. The main line Final Fantasy "games" are really just fancy long graphical demos, and have been since FF6.
Re:Troubling for Sony (Score:3, Interesting)
...well... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Troubling for Sony (Score:1, Interesting)
Remember when it jumped to the PlayStation? The customers followed it, not the other way around.
They've demonstrated in the past that they'll release Final Fantasy for whatever they think will have the flashiest graphics.
You'd have to be insane to think they'd pass up on an HDTV console for FF13. FF13 might move to the XBox 360 (and why not, FF11 already got ported to it), but there's no way it'll be released for the Wii.
Earlier this year Square-Enix announced that for the 20th anniversary of the original release of Final Fantasy, they'd be releasing PSP versions of the GBA releases. Square-Enix clearly doesn't care about where the customers are, only where they can make the prettiest (but not necessarily most fun) games.
Re:Troubling for Sony? Doubtful (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:A story in itself... (Score:2, Interesting)
HDTV is the future, but not the Present. (Score:4, Interesting)
Why are so many people so shortsighted? HDTV is the future.
HD may be the future, but the issue is it isn't the present. Currently I own an HDTV, and an HD DVD player. I enjoy them immensely, but I am (by having them) in the minority. About 17% of households in the US have 1 or more HDTVs. That means 83% don't, and our adoption rates have been better than either Japan and Europe. Now HD is a niche (albeit growing) market. It will take several more years for it to hit mainstream adoption. DVD only surpassed VHS sales after the players hit the $50 and under price point.
In 5-10 years it may be mainstream, but Nintendo has banked that it won't hit 'critical mass' within the 4-6 year life expectancy of the Wii. I'll bet that the next Nintendo will push HD, but in the interest to cater to the largest possible market they have chosen SD.
My Perspective (Score:3, Interesting)
I bought the PS3 first (11th Nov 2006) & was pretty impressed from day one. Of the few games I owned back then, I felt that gameplay & atmosphere was superior to that on the xBox360 (that I had played at friends houses)
When I talk about "gameplay & atmosphere" I mean this - the way that a game can draw you in, inspire you to play, leave you wanting more, a compelling story with rewarding/challenging gameplay.
I consider Resistance to have a moderate amount of this, CoD3 lots, Halo very little.
Some months later I bought an xBox360. I was disappointed at range of games available on the PS3 & their slow appearance. I expect this to pick up in the next few months, but at the moment only MGS has me drooling.
I was pleasantly surprised with the xBox360. I picked up a few decent games right away & at the moment I play the xBox360 much more that the other two consoles. Deadrising is fiendishly difficult, but very addictive & compelling. It even inspired me to watch "Dawn of the Dead" on a saturday morning before diving into some zombie chopping action.
xBox live is a great feature, despite my previous opinion that it wasnt something I would use - the demos etc are a real bonus.
My 2 small gripes about the xBox360 are the subscription fee for online play & the noise of the xbox fans. It is very noisy compared to the silent PS3.
Otherwise, I put the xBox360 above the PS3. More games & more fun. But I wouldnt rule out the PS3 yet, I think there will still be some nice things to come.
The Wii was a bit of a novelty buy. I didnt expect it to form a big part of my gaming life - & I was right. The innovative control system is indeed inspired & great fun, but the games are just time fillers. Wii sports is, erm, well not much more than a demo. I can see it being nice for children aged 3-8, but beyond that it's not really for serious games.
I have this great Marble game though, you are a marble & you roll around on various floating mazes to reach the goal. This game really does get addictive & I often play it for 10 mins or so to warm up before getting into some real hi-def arcade action on the xBox360 or PS3.
The Wii is selling well. It's cheap. I put this down to: people don't look beyond the price for their purchase / or / they are crap at games
What Sony needs (Score:3, Interesting)
Remove the hard drive and bluray drive. Replace blu-ray with a Sony DVD drive and make the HDD optional add on if possible.
If Sony removed those two components with lower cost solutions, they could knock off $100-$200. They could easily sell a PS3 at $299-$399 instead. That is a much better price point. PS3 could compete with both 360 and Wii better.
Re:Troubling for Sony (Score:4, Interesting)
Even $500 is too much, though: I paid about $250 for my TV, and in my mind that's how much TVs cost. Judging from the installed base, I'm not the only one with that opinion. I've seen HDTVs in lobbies, casinos, bars, and electronics stores, and I've been bombarded with advertising for them, but I've only ever seen one HDTV in an actual house, and it was a rear projection unit that looked awful.
Why are so many people so shortsighted? HDTV is the future.
'Dominates'? (Score:4, Interesting)
Personally, I'm skeptical as to whether Nintendo can keep the same momentum going given the lack of software in the pipeline. And additionally, as a gamer I hope that everyone is dead wrong about them dominating the market. I'm not a casual gamer, and while a few fun gimmicky toy games like Wii sports are great, I would die if everything was like that. For me, the games Nintendo seem to be pushing are like candy - they taste great, but they burn away pretty quickly and in the end you can't sustain yourself on them.
Re:Troubling for Sony (Score:4, Interesting)
Wii had better improve quickly (Score:3, Interesting)
So my feeling is that PS3, and 360 may lose the early rounds this year, but based upon the kind of games on the gamecube, the wii games so far, and my boredom with controller, Nintendo should be moderately successful but never enjoy numeric dominance of the market. PS3 has the best platform, and once it gets some more games under its belt will begin to dominate the game market for yet another generation. 360 will come in second, once again hampered by the kind of dumb design decisions Microsoft makes, and Nintendo will be the console that kids and parents like but never buy enough games to matter. But Nintendo likes its niche, so I can't say that it is a bad thing for them.