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'Make Love, Not Warcraft' Episode Wins An Emmy 82

WoW Insider has the word that the South Park Episode "Make Love, Not Warcraft" has won the Creative Emmy for Outstanding Animated Program. The episode, which heavily features machinima shot inside a Blizzard-run World of Warcraft server, has proven extremely popular with fans of both the game and the show. So much so that the DVD set including that episode includes a 14-day trial for WoW, and extensive commentary on the episode from the show's creators. From the WoW Insider post: "This isn't the first Emmy that South Park has won, but perhaps this kind of attention will get WoW more positive (or at least humorous) attention in other television shows. Though, when it comes to TV ratings, 9 million people worldwide does not a target audience make. For example, American Idol was considered slipping when it only had 30 million US viewers for an episode. Would you like to see WoW references appear more often on TV? Or are you too busy playing to care?"
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'Make Love, Not Warcraft' Episode Wins An Emmy

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  • by dbolger ( 161340 ) on Monday September 10, 2007 @10:59AM (#20538885) Homepage
    Its the best show in the World!... (of Warcraft)
  • by realsilly ( 186931 ) on Monday September 10, 2007 @11:03AM (#20538941)
    My husband and I just had the opportunity to watch the episode again on DVD. We listened to the commentary by the South Park creators and found it interesting how the episode came to be.

    Best part about what I learned is that Blizzard was gun-ho to help out with the episode.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Vexor ( 947598 )

      Best part about what I learned is that Blizzard was gun-ho to help out with the episode.

      As they say, no publicity is bad publicity.

  • by jollyreaper ( 513215 ) on Monday September 10, 2007 @11:03AM (#20538945)
    a trial subscription with the DVD? That's like handing out free needles with the DARE program.
    • yea, its like, thanks for buying "Thank You For Smoking" on dvd - here's your complimentary pack of Marlboros, and some candy cigarettes for your little ones too.
  • Not just WoW players (Score:3, Interesting)

    by techpawn ( 969834 ) on Monday September 10, 2007 @11:10AM (#20539043) Journal
    I know a lot of other MMO players who got a kick out of watching it and laughing at WoW players or ourselves seeing a bit of ourselves in the WoW universe
    • I was sitting there logged into EQ2, running an instance, while the episode ran for the first time on the TV behind me. I had to log as quickly as possible, heh -- felt dirty. ;)
  • by damrat ( 1154429 ) on Monday September 10, 2007 @11:15AM (#20539135)
    I was impressed with the Emmy, until I saw this morning that Andy Samberg and Justin Timberlake's "Dick in a Box" won an Emmy last night, too. Makes you wonder just how low the standards for winning an Emmy are, after all. Or how sorry the competition was...
    • How can you hate on "Dick in a Box"? That was pure brilliance!
    • by AmazingRuss ( 555076 ) on Monday September 10, 2007 @11:39AM (#20539535)
      ...and television is 200 channels of suck. I would hate to be the person who has to dig through all that and find the bits that suck the very least.

    • Re: (Score:1, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      An Emmy certainly isn't as prestigious as an Oscar. There's so much stuff on TV, they have to give the things out like candy sometimes. Keep in mind, though, that it's still an award where each category only has one winner. Plenty of shows get nominated for Emmys that don't win.

      Just like any multicategory award, you should see what category it won or was nominated in to decide how much prestige to afford to the award. Getting an Oscar for Best Picture is a much bigger deal than getting an Oscar for Best
    • by multisync ( 218450 ) on Monday September 10, 2007 @12:09PM (#20540111) Journal
      I don't know what the competition for it was, but I remember that Samberg/Timberlake video well and found it hilarious. In fact, I remember the show Timberlake hosted as one of the best of last season. If you didn't think it was funny, you're entitled to your opinion, but for me it doesn't work as an example of the "low standards for winning an Emmy."
      • Bring it on down to homelessville... Timberlake's two shows he hosted with the Omletville and Homelessville skits were too funny.
        • Not to mention the Barry Gibb talk show with Jimmy Fallon.

          I wasn't even going to watch the show, cause I had no interest in listening to his music. I'm glad I did. I thought he did a great job hosting, and even enjoyed the songs he performed. Just goes to show that even if a performer's material isn't to your taste, if he's talented - and you keep an open mind - you will probably be entertained.
      • There are millions of funny videos on youtube, it doesn't mean they should get awards.
        • I didn't say every funny video on youtube should get an award. I was disagreeing with the gp's opinion that the video didn't deserve the award it won.

          There are millions of songs on the radio. There are hundreds of movies released every year. There are dozens of Broadway plays. They don't all get Grammys, Oscars or Tonys, but some do. Whether or not the ones that do deserve them is a matter of opinion. I was simply stating mine.
          • by damrat ( 1154429 )
            Let me clarify my statement: I feel like there was a time that the Emmy Award carried with it a certain prestige. It was the television equivalent to the Oscar -- the closest thing the television medium had to it, anyways. I think perhaps the Golden Globes has taken that away from them, and I think the prestige value has fallen. Fallen quite a lot, actually. I tried to use the Samberg video to that point out. Personally, I think "Dick in the Box" was hilarious. I hope to see more things on TV like the SP
            • I see a bit of a contradiction in your position. On the one hand, you feel the prestige value of the Emmys has fallen and cite the "Dick in a Box" video winning as an example, yet you concede that the video is "hilarious." If the award is for comedy, shouldn't a video that is "hilarious" qualify? I'm going to go out on a limb here and speculate that you feel the comedy in that video is low-brow schoolboy type humour that only immature geeks like us really find funny, but I don't think that is the case. The
  • more choice (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Tom ( 822 ) on Monday September 10, 2007 @11:15AM (#20539139) Homepage Journal

    Or are you too busy playing to care?
    No, like most non-WoW-players, I'm too busy caring about whether or not WoW is good or bad for me (as a player and consumer) and the industry.

    Certainly the size and money involved allows Blizzard to try things nobody else could afford. On the other hand, in markets in general and creative markets specifically, too much concentration on one offer (no matter how good it is) reduces the progress of everyone else.

    I'd rather have more choice.
    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Selfbain ( 624722 )
      There is a lot of choice in mmo's right now and the genre (does mmo count as a genre?) is about to explode. There are lots of new games going online within the next year. The star trek geek in me that died a long time ago is feeling a strong pull to try Star Trek Online.
      • by Knara ( 9377 )
        Isn't Trek Online about 3 years out at the minimum?
        • It's due late next year according to the wikipedia article. My understanding is the initial launch will not have all the features they currently have planned (no spaceship internals for instance).
      • The MMO Genre has been quietly "exploding" for years now. It started back with UO, then came EQ. Since then lots of new games have been coming online and the reason you are not aware of them is because they quickly die out. Examples Star Wars galaxies, Auto Assault, The Matrix Online, and to many others to list. If anything the MMO market is slowing down because so many people have lost big on it. Of course all WOW is doing is giving hope to the hopeless that maybe they too can build and online cash co
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by brkello ( 642429 )
      Huh? You are too busy worrying about a game that you don't even play? I'd say that you are unique and there aren't a bunch of people suffering anxiety attacks because they are worried that World of Warcraft is stifling creativity in gaming. Even though you don't make any sense, let me put these fears to rest. For gaming to be accepted as an art form and accepted by society, we need a game like WoW. You need a game that is a hit with so many people so that it becomes known to people who don't play the gam
      • Even though it's the biggest MMO ever, it's still pretty niche. If anything is going to have the widespread impact you're talking about, it'll be something console/handheld.
        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          by statikuz ( 523906 )
          Pretty niche? 9 million players worldwide (plus another 3.5m for TBC) compared to only 11.6 million Xbox 360's SHIPPED worldwide? 26 million PSP's sold, which is indeed a lot, but one single computer game that not only sells, but has subscribers in those numbers definitely isn't "niche."
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by phildawg ( 1104325 )
      But you have one major failure in your logic. WoW isn't stealing MMO players away from other competitive MMOs. It is creating new MMO players from those who used to refuse to pay a monthly fee for a video game they could never own, or never had a desire to try out an MMO as they were content with playing diablo, counterstrike, etc.
      • by Tom ( 822 )

        But you have one major failure in your logic. WoW isn't stealing MMO players away from other competitive MMOs

        Maybe, maybe not. I don't know either way, which is why I worry a little.
  • Yoda... (Score:1, Funny)

    by Eric Pierce ( 636318 )
    > 9 million people worldwide does not a target audience make.

    Yoda is in the house!
    • Nine million good ratings for Comedy Central it would be. From Wikipedia it is:

      The original television airing of the episode drew 3.4 million viewers, most between the ages of 18 and 49. This popularity made the episode Comedy Central's highest-rated midseason premiere since the year 2000. However, the highest ratings for the tenth season belong to the season's premiere, "The Return of Chef", which drew more than 3.5 million viewers.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 10, 2007 @11:36AM (#20539461)
    > Would you like to see WoW references appear more often on TV?

    "Are you insecure about your choice of hobbies? Do you require the validation others?"
  • How to win an award (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Monday September 10, 2007 @11:47AM (#20539685)
    Let's take a quick look at the episodes that won an emmy or something smiliar. Bottom line: Be creative and move a hint away from the vanilla roll-down-22-minutes-to-fill-between-ads trash that clogs our TVs today, and you got one.

    And that episode simply and plainly did that. It's one of the first to feature and parody a popular video game. I mean, a video game it doesn't try to sell.

    • by geekoid ( 135745 )
      NO. this just shows that feeding into a hype fed by a misconception that is believed in Hollywood gets you notice. This episode was not unique, the writing was mediocre any it didn't make a point.

  • by Greyfox ( 87712 ) on Monday September 10, 2007 @11:49AM (#20539733) Homepage Journal
    Jimmy's Story. [youtube.com]
  • errr (Score:3, Funny)

    by doyoulikeworms ( 1094003 ) on Monday September 10, 2007 @11:53AM (#20539847)
    Mom! Bathroom! Bathroom!
  • featured WoW in an episode, but it really fell flat.

    Countdown to the death of The Simpsons...



    • South Park already did that joke. ;^)

  • A repetitive and easy game. Sort of get the group/chat thing. But, by the tenth paint-by-numbers mission I couldn't gag the damn game down anymore.

    I've long suspected that WoW is more of a culture of "Wow! We did this and this and that and got this and this and that, and jeepers, aren't we great."

    Blizzard obviously figured out what gamers want.

    • Well, IMHO, it's all about forming a Care Bear guild, doing your Druid quest, and then having a few hundred Alliance level 70s p0wn you six ways to Sunday ...
    • by Sabalon ( 1684 )
      WoW is great. You get to create a vast variety of characters (okay...6 types, but they look different, at least in the facial hair.) and explore to your hearts content.

      Not only do you get to complete complicated quests (such as "go talk to the guy 5 feet to my right and take him this.") you receive grand rewards which almost compete with what you sold as vendor junk three levels ago. And speaking of selling, lets not forget how expensive purple pixels are. Items with those rare pixels sell for stupid a
      • by Dewser ( 853519 )
        Such is the nature of most MMORPGs. But WoW by far, does not force you to group with people to play the game. You can solo your way to 70 and never once work with another individual. You can jump in the game and spend an hour doing something without relying on people. I do it regularly. Grouping only helps enhance the experience. There are some great people who play the game and you can end up making some good friends. Hell I even met up with an old friend from High School who plays the game.

        Though i
    • by DimGeo ( 694000 )
      You've obviously never been in an elite instance with 4 other players, and have never been out-mobbed because some aggro-ninja was getting too much attention from those scarlet champions... Or have never been the said aggro-ninja yourself :P . IMNSHO, the real game is questing with people in STV and running instances, at least until 60...
    • by Avatar8 ( 748465 )
      To each his own, but I have to say, if you only played long enough for 10 quests, you didn't give it much of a try. If you consider WoW repetitive then you haven't played many MMOs. Dark Age of Camelot was much more repetitive as far as level or skill gain, Ultima Online was repetitive to get skills to certain levels and Everquest (I heard) was a pure grind fest for leveling and money gain. WoW has substantially more variety than any of those.

      At launch there were 2500 quests per faction (Alliance or Horde)

  • Just a matter of time: http://www.whorelore.com/ [whorelore.com] (Not work safe)

    Seriously .. forget mainstream TV .. I can't recall the last time a video game inspired a porn series. (And it seems that Blizzard got pissed and had them change the name from "World of Whorecraft")
  • when TV shows were all about bowling and drinking, two more important things than playing WoW ...
  • Am I the only one who thought this episode didn't live up to its hype? I'm no hater; I played WoW from beta to BC and I've seen every SP episode more than once. I just thought it was a pretty average episode in the laughs and insight departments. It was creative enough to win an Emmy for that aspect, but it doesn't rank anywhere near the top of SP episodes overall.

    Seriously, that is what WoW is really like.

    Personally, I love to join a group and tank like an aggro monster truck, as my party dies behind me ...
  • Let his mother assign him a whole bunch of needless and rather stupid chores like clearing out a beehive.
  • The only reason for this Emmy is that it feeds into the 'Video games are BAD' stereo type.


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