Casual Gamers Forcing Gamestop to Rethink Store Layouts 93
The Guardian Gamesblog has up a post noting that Gamestop will be rearranging stores to meet casual gamer needs. For example, they'll be creating a section just for music games (karaoke, guitar games, etc). They'll also be putting together a 'family-friendly' area, with a focus on titles like Nintendogs, Lego Star Wars, and the like. The post is based off of an interview in The New York Times with Daniel A. DeMatteo, Gamestop's vice chairman and chief operating officer. In his mind casual games are now so important to sales that the company is having to do some 'radical retail re-thinking': "There is a real breadth of properties now appealing to a much broader audience than we've seen before. Honestly, we are having to retool the way we think of things in our stores in terms of merchandising, layout and also customer service because it is no longer only the hardcore gamer walking in who knows exactly what he wants."
Hype. (Score:3, Insightful)
This isn't news, it's an advertisement.
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I hope that means other changes (Score:3, Insightful)
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Ask me about reserving a game and
I WILL KILL YOU
and stick it to your shirt. Alternatively, you could have cards printed that say that and hand it to the person before you begin to speak to them. It'll make them think twice about asking other people, and they probably won't ever ask you again.
Re:I hope that means other changes (Score:4, Funny)
The last time I was at a GameStop, they asked me if I wanted to get an extended warranty on the game for $3. Since I was third in line, I'd heard the "Do you want to buy an extended warranty for $3? It allows you to replace the game for free if it becomes scratched or anything. No? OK, do you want to reserve $RELATED_GAME{$PURCHASED_GAME} today?" twice already. I guess I was a little more forceful with my "NO!" than intended, because the clerk skipped the rest of the spiel.
So I'd add:
And if you ask me to buy a warranty on the game:
I WILL KILL YOUR FAMILY TOO
Re:I hope that means other changes (Score:5, Interesting)
Roll forwards 6 months, and I have a bunch of old PSP games I no longer play. Of course I kept the receipts for the guarantee so in I go to get my refunds. I hadn't been in the store for a while but I noticed right away that all the staff were new, even the manager. I go up to the counter, explain that I'd like to return these games I'd finished playing, and the clerk starts telling me that the guarantee is only for DAMAGED games before the manager stops her, tells her to give me the refunds (over $200) and explains to me that the entire store were busted for mis-selling the guarantee (they were paid commission on each one) and were all fired. He says they were getting 2 or 3 people a day coming in with the same story and they were honouring the refunds as a sign of goodwill. It must have been costing them a fortune...
Downtown software blues (Score:1)
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I should have taken her up on it.
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Re:I hope that means other changes (Score:5, Insightful)
Supply/Demand and the business model.
Supply and Demand
I can walk into a Gamestop and buy a used PS2 game for $3 or for $80+. It depends on the game. No joke. Buy a copy of Madden Football [year-2] (aka it's 2008, get 2006) or a professional wrestling game and it'll probably be $3. Conversely, just the other day I found Marvel vs Capcom 2 for the PS2 for $79.99, no box slip, no manual, etc. Why? Because you cannot find MvC2 or games like some "Baulders Gate" or "Champions of Norrath", etc High Demand, Low Supply. It's economics, you cannot fault them for that.
Business Model
Used games is where stores like Gamestop make their money. It's not selling consoles or new games. The games industry has very tight control over the games price and the profit garnered from each game. Suffice it to say, the margins are small. Without used games, such speciality stores probably wouldn't be able to operate.
Use it to your advantage
Is it disappointing to see used games sell for $45 when the new game is $50? Sure. Then buy the new version (or save yourself $5, because, hey, it's $5. That's 1-2 beers at a bar.) Not happy that they'll only give you $0.50 or $3 for your 3 year old game? Then sell it on Ebay, in classified ads, or many other options. Reselling video games are not an exclusive right to Gamestop.
I understand how Everyone wants something for nothing, but I'm willing to see a service for what it's worth. It cleans to my house and I take full advantage of promotions that are always running that sometimes net me the same or more money for trade-ins than I paid for it. I can also maximize it to cost less than renting new games. At least, console games can be traded in, unlike PC games.
Sometimes we luck out and get a great game for real cheap, other times we're out of luck when you really want to get Marvel vs Capcom 2 but have to pay a premium for it, sometimes 2x or 3x what it cost (try looking up prices for Final Fantasy VII [amazon.com] for the original Playstation and see that it goes for $50-$300, which is much lower now that the hype died down after the movie and sequel game have come and gone)
Cheers,
Fozzy
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They open my games... (Score:5, Interesting)
What if someone were to buy a game as a Christmas present, only to find out that someone else had already bought it? As soon as they walk out the Gamestop door, that game is now worth the $5 trade-in value, even if you've never opened it and still have the receipt; because the plastic-wrap is no longer on the game, you can't prove that you didn't open it.
It's bullshit policy. I want my "new" games, "new", not "mint" condition.
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"My personal boycott is because they open my god-damn games. You can't go into Gamestop to buy anything without them having taken off the plastic wrap (or for PC games, cut or torn off the seal), opened the game up, and sloppily thrown the game disc(s) into crappy paper sleeves to store in a cabinet."
You have thieves to thank for that, and it's not just a problem for game stores either. They'll come in and while no one's looking, cut the box open and take the disc, and leave everything else. I'll guess some slashdotter will now blame the store for "punishing" the customer.
I, personally, wish that all game stores did the lock-up-the-actual-merch thing. I got totally burned when, for one Valentine's day, I bought my friend a WoW Subscription Card. Well, actually, I bought him the box. We were on a Valentine's date when he opened my present.
Him (looking in the box quizzically):"Cool. A Blizzard catalog."
Me: "Keep looking."
Him (emptying out the box onto the table): "...There's nothing else in here."
Me: "What?!?!"
Him: "Well...that's alright. Blizzard catalogs are cool."
Translation (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe they can also start firing the employees who tell clueless Mom's that "Mario is coming out on the Xbox, but it is going to be a cooler version than the Gamecube with better graphics. Don't buy a Gamecube, it's lame. Nintendo is going out of business soon." (System names can be rearranged based on employee biases...)
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"I'd vouch on firing people from the society whose parents or schools didn't teach them something as simple as properly forming plural's^Wplurals."
You seem to be unfamiliar with the concept of grammar, or is English not your first language?
Maybe you meant "I'd vouch for," but that doesn't do much for your horrible run on sentence. The prepositional phrase "from the society" is a tad vague. Do you mean people from American Society, or from the Susquahanna Bad
Gamestop Service? (Score:1)
That's funny. Whenever I go into gamestop or EBX, I tend to stay away from customer service. I swear, they hire the most inept people who don't have a clue about games.
Me:
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Hea
Have multiple floors and more supervisors (Score:5, Funny)
Hardcore gamers should have to go through at least 3 levels and 2 bosses before being able to get to their goods.
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Penny Arcade for everything (Score:3, Funny)
Not "hardcore vs. casual" (Score:4, Insightful)
This has to do with "informed vs. clueless" gamers. Informed gamers, the people who've been playing games for years, know that GS is run by assholes, employs assholes, and overprices its games. Informed gamers know they can get better deals online or at other retailers.
GS is appealing to the soccer moms and new gamers who go there because of brand recognition. These people won't realize if the employee is pushing a shitty game on them or that they're paying more than they have to.
I apologize for the elitist tone, but anyone interested in saving money and preserving their dignity shouldn't shop at GS
Re:Not "hardcore vs. casual" (Score:5, Funny)
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Not my experience! (Score:2)
I don't want to get into a fight here, but I have to say that this was not my experience with GameStop at all. I am a casual gamer, and also a clueless gamer. A roommate and I had a Sega Saturn in 1995. He bought out my half and took the game with him when he left. After the Saturn, I did
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Just as in any store run by humans, there are good store locations and bad store locations. I have two GameStops near my house. One is about a mile south of me, and seems to employ a lot of weenies who think you are taking up their valuable time that could be better spent goofing off behind the counter. One of them even fakes a British accent. I go there because it's convenient, and when I know what I'm looking for. I never ask those assholes for advice.
The other GameStop is about 3 miles north of me, and
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By your logic, only clueless (== casual?) gamers would shop and GameStop.
If so, the redesign is a good idea. They should also install rails around any sharp corner and use non-slip floor mats (since your clueless gamers will probably drool a lot). ;)
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There's a lot more dignity in a GS than in the weird-smelling boutique game shop run by a guy who looks like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons. Not that I don't go there, too, particularly if I'm looking for something no longer in print or for a vintage platform. But your elitism is easi
Pre-order (Score:2)
That would be a major improvement for Gamestop.
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Re:Pre-order (Score:4, Interesting)
Went to Gamestop. The guy said, "Well, the UPS guy may get here today, or tomorrow. I think we'll have more then." So, I went nearly-next-door (in the same shopping center) to Best Buy, where there were multiple tables literally overflowing with the game. I walked up, grabbed a box, and checked out.
My game-buying experiences at Best Buy have been nearly-always been better than Gamestop. Not only do they have more PC games (local GameStops have practically all XBox/PS3 games), but I don't have to do the preorder BS. Heck, I saw DEFCON there... quite the shocker.
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Does this mean I'll actually be able to walk into the store and buy a game without having pre-ordered it two months in advance?
I buy most of my games at Gamestop (I only purchase new so the prices don't bother me) and I rarely ever preorder (only ever preordered twice). Yet even without preordering I have no problem getting the games I am looking for, often on release day. Of course I have made it clear to my local shops that if they don't have it in stock I will go somewhere else. And believe it or not, this actually works.
And there is very little more satisfying than purchasing a product and going back to the store that was
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So I walk down the street to the resident big-box store which somehow manages to have copies in stock.
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Kids section at my gamestop last night (Score:5, Insightful)
I mean I am sure there are families out there with every single system, but I found it particularly annoying that the new layout basically assumes you have all systems.
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Re:you might have to show the kid how to read (Score:5, Insightful)
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Why don't you log in and say that, you AC Troll. When you do it, be sure and let us know how many children you've raised.
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I didn't assume that children only learn at school. I said that *most* children don't learn to read until they get to school. I was 4 when I started kindergarten. I could read words like "cat" and "dog", but not "Playstation". My son is 3. He knows his alphabet and he can read a couple of short words. But expecting him to be able to read the stylized labels on a video game box is a bit much. The OP's son is 2.5. How many two-year-olds can read the word "Nintendo" or "Playstation"?
I commend you on y
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So you think that you know how to raise a kid better than anyone else just because you couldn't read the instructions for a condom?
Sounds like your parents should have taught you to read before you went to school.
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As a parent, I take issue with people telling other people how to raise their kids.
So you think that you know how to raise a kid better than anyone else just because you couldn't read the instructions for a condom?
1) Thats not what I said. I said I didn't like people telling other people how to raise their kids -- myself included.
2) I know how to raise MY kid best because my wife and I are the people who have dedicated the last 3 years of our lives to feeding, cleaning, teaching and otherwise caring for him. Noone else on the planet has spent more time observing and interacting with this person than we have.
3) My wife and I spent 3 years undergoing tests, visiting doctors, regulating our diets, monitoring our
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A) its marketing, they want to push those products because putting them at eye level gives them incredible visibility or
B) the company whose product is at eye level paid a premium to get it there.
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Here's an idea for them (Score:3, Insightful)
I understand that these guys have limited floor-space. You can double that if you count the nearby EBGames that's owned by the same corporation, resides in the same shopping center/mall and has the exact same crap in stock.
I am primarily a PC gamer, and I am frustrated every time I go into one of these stores by the three giant walls of empty game-boxes labeled "Coming Soon!", and the tiny half-rack 3-year-old PC games (still at full price). I take a short walk to the other store, and find that they have the exact same selection.
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Short answer, its harder to sell used PC games. Used games is where they make their money.
Plus the PC game market is small compared to consoles. Which is why you still see all those 3-year-old games still unsold.
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People actually shop at Gamestop/EBGames? (Score:2)
It seems for new releases, I just bypass GS/EB and head to my local big-box electronics retailer, who may often be equally crowded, but at least manages to make it not appear so (at least,
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After that, not cramming the PC games onto a few shelfs on an island so they get all crushed and dog-eared would be a good start. If I'm going to pay $50-$60 for a brand new game,
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being able to see the whole box would help (Score:3, Interesting)
Obvious move... (Score:2)
Family videogame crash of the 2000's? (Score:2)
Ten years from now, will they be saying that family videogames experienced a crash between Tetris and the Wii?
Integrity and Honesty (Score:2)
They need to hire people with some morales, and not be afriad to tell people that certain games just -suck-. Selling the wrong
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For me, the local Gamestop is the best place to pick up games instead of the worst. We've got a Best Buy close by, but their selection of non-PC games is mediocre, and their service is simply
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There's about a dozen gamestops in my area. There was ONE that I enjoyed going to, and it had all the characteristics of the one you describe. Recently they changed their management: An awful manager that used to be the most unhelpful SOB from another store took over, and now their helpful employees are gone. Needless to say, after the 4th upsell in a row on the same freaking game I'm back to going to big box stores for anything other than low di
So...what does this mean exactly? (Score:1)
Will they finally organize their shelves so that games are arranged in - gasp - alphabetical order?
Or will they not do anything at all? I mean, think about it. Casual gamers are the folks who are going to be shopping in malls, where Gamestops exist mainly, or at places like Best Buy, Walmart, etc. So, the customers will already be there. What more do the stores have to do?
But no, it soun
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How can they manage all that (Score:1)
Yeah, Right... (Score:1)
I told them this years ago (Score:1)
Its nothing new! Been around for like 3 or 4 years.
It increases sales among games overall by upwards of 30 percent. I proved this in several Circuit City stores, a Gamestop, 3 Targets, and at least 2 Walmarts I have the pictures to prove it. I could have patented it. But I decided to just let it go open in order to increase game sales. Which have d