More Than Half of the US Plays Videogames 85
The newest NPD numbers pass on a heartening statistic about the adoption of games: more than half of the US population plays videogames via some method. "Most people said that per week, they're either playing just as many or less hours than they did last year. Thirty percent said that they play more than a year ago, while another 30 percent said they play less and 40 percent say that they play the same amount of hours. Males aged 18-34 continue to be the heaviest gamers and are more attracted to hardcore games as opposed to casual games."
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Of course, the gamers are only attacking each other and they all have extra lives so...
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Modded funny? (Score:1)
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Statistics! (Score:3, Insightful)
Or
"Most people said that per week, they're either playing just as many or more hours than they did last year."
Both statements are true.
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What kind of gamer would want to LIMIT themselves by refusing to play games on certain platforms/systems? If you truly are a hardcore gamer, you would be playing as many different games as possible on as many different systems as possible...otherwise, you are what some people like to call "fake".
Who gives a crap if it's played with a keyboard/mouse or a controller? Who cares what company manufactured the system it plays on? If it's a video game, and it's fun, what more could you possibly want?
Christ, people like you piss me off...
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1. I play games that I would consider hard core. Crysis, as opposed to Tetris.
2. I don't play enough to think of myself hardcore. 4 hours as WEEK maybe. A 6 hour LAN party once a month.
3. Being that I don't play that much, I am very discerning about WHAT I play, and HOW I play. Keyboard/mouse are the controllers for me. I want a high resolution. Console graphics at low res have completely caught up, but currently I don't know of any TV or console that'll do 1600x1200. I'll be going to 1
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As far as headshotting with a controller, it just takes some getting used to...if anything, it just means you are more skilled if you are able to. Being able to be just as proficient in an FPS using a mouse as you are using a controller is a great skill to have btw. You never know when a great shooter is going to be a console exclusive...Goldeneye, perhaps?
BTW, both the 360 AND the PS3 can output a 1080p signal. Just thought you would like to know.
Being able to modify PC games, that I will definately agree with you on...Oblivion is the perfect example of that, and Team Fortress 2/Portal will both be fantastic examples of it as well, once the community spends some more time with them.
Still, don't entirely write off consoles....you are really limiting yourself from playing some fantastic games.
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"No sitting on the living room floor playing with a controller for me. 8 buttons ain't enough. I need all 104. And I can't STAND trying to sniper with a joy nub!"
I play consoles. I don't sit on the floor. And "joy nub" sounds condescending.
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Ont he mod side, that is indeed what kept me playing pc games for so long. I was thrilled when sony allowed mods on the ps3, and UT3 made use of them. Its as simple as downloading the mod to a usb stick and importing it on your ps3. Re
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Tetris is just pure. Kind of like how a long-distance runner is more a pure athlete than a football player. Nothing but you, the game, and hand-eye coordination.
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What is a console? (Score:2)
As soon as you say you refuse to play a game because either A. it is on a console or B. it is on a game system made by a specific company, you are basically revealing to the world that you are a moron. A complete and total moron.
What is the essential difference between a PC and a "console"? Is it largely that the maker of a "console" refuses to provide "methods, procedures, authorization keys, or other information required to install and execute modified versions of a [...] work in that [console] from a modified version of its Corresponding Source" to end users? If so, would that make Mr. Stallman a moron because GPLv3 games don't run on consoles by definition?
If you truly are a hardcore gamer, you would be playing as many different games as possible on as many different systems as possible...otherwise, you are what some people like to call "fake".
Given the $1,350 price tag to own all three consoles with even one con
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The essential difference is a PC is a PC and a console is something su
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The essential difference is a PC is a PC and a console is something such as an Xbox, a Playstation, a Dreamcast...
Then what's a PC? Something that has a Microsoft operating system installed on it? Does that make a Mac that doesn't have Boot Camp and XP installed not a PC? Does that make my PDA a PC because it runs Windows Mobile?
come on, stop nitpicking.
I wanted to get Layne's Law [c2.com] issues out of the way first because precise definitions make arguments more robust. If I don't know what definition of PC you're using, I find it difficult to participate meaningfully.
If none of your friends have PC's
The friends I'm talking about don't own PCs; their parents do.
and you enjoy playing multiplayer splitscreen, then obviously you should invest in consoles that have good multiplayer games
I have a Wii. But
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All three of the major consoles this generation have independent and split-screen games. Some PC games have split-screen as well, although they are very few and far between.
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by Independent, I thought you were refering to single player games. There is of course the XNA for the 360, and with the Wii there is WiiWare, even though there hasn't been anything released for it yet...I think everything planned for it is due starting early-to-mid 2008...check out the wikipedia article for more info on that.
No, it's because th
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I feel it's more fun to play Guitar Hero on the Guitar controller. I probably wouldn't play the game if it wasn't for the controller.
That being said, I take no issue to a person saying "I prefer to play FPS with a mouse and keyboard". That is equatable to me saying that I prefer to play Guitar hero with the guitar. What I do take issue with is the "playing a
An offtopic recap (Score:2)
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Very nice, detailed post. Thank you. Now we can get to my point:
A console has a predefined set of hardware (sans hard storage - as in, you can get a 360 with or without a hard drive, but they all have the same guts), a PC doesn't.
You define a console as a fixed set of hardware. Thank you. So why do all consoles sold in the United States have lockout chips?
What John needs to realize is that a) his statements make no difference to anyone, and b) that if the GameBox actually did "win the war" and wiped all of the other consoles off the face of the planet, it would probably be a raw deal for everyone who plays console games because the lack of competition would result in a dearth of innovation.
How does this compare to the dearth of innovation caused by not allowing hobbyists to develop and deploy games on any platform other than Windows and Mac OS X?
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By lockout chips, are you referring to the mechanisms that keep an average Joe can't develop and sell games for a console? Looking at your second question, I imagine so.
I don't see how having a fixed set of hardware has anything to do with having a lockout chi
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By lockout chips, are you referring to the mechanisms that keep an average Joe can't develop and sell games for a console?
Yes, I am referring to these technical measures. I am also referring to the policies of all members of the console cartel to 1. reject any title for any reason and 2. categorically reject all proposals from publishers smaller than a given market cap.
I'm pretty sure that console manufacturers put in these mechanisms for two reasons. A) It gives them control over what gets published on the system in terms of quality and content (so our average Joe can't make a 360 game that says "Microsoft and Xbox suck donkey balls" and distribute it). As far as I know, they don't exercise this control often, but if they wanted to they could.
Does DVD Format/Logo Licensing Corporation reserve this right too? I haven't read any indication that they do.
B) Those mechanisms are there so the integrity of the console can be guaranteed. Once you mod a 360, it's technically not a 360 anymore
But if the lockout mechanism did not exist, people wouldn't have a need to mod the console. Specifically, DVD-Video players don't need to be modded t
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NLAWALKER- "Being a fanboy is bad because, should a fanboy get his wish, we'd see a lapse in competition that would lead to a lack in innovation."
TEPPLES- "Yeah, but consoles have lockout chips that deprive the world of innovatio
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In response to tepples' post above, the best move to market a "consolish" game that you've only got a Windows prototype for is to get it out on the Internet and get people talking about it. I'm not exactly sure what Jenova Chen did to get Sony Computer Entertainment's attention with fl0w (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thatgamecompany); maybe someone there just happene
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Your concept is just flamebait.
Why must fixed hardware have a lockout chip? (Score:1, Redundant)
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Nobody has a monopoly on any part of a PC gaming setup, except arguably MS for the operating system, and every PC is expected to do more than play games - allowing hobbiest development is expected from a PC.
Also PC components cost their true cost - they are not subsidised, so nobody loses money if
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Because Microsoft have a monopoly on creating/designing XBoxes, and Sony have a monopoly on creating/designing Playstations etc so they *can* put hardware in to stop the hobbyists developing for the platform.
Which hardware is fixed but not subsidy-locked? Or what hardware is designed for shared-screen multiplayer but is not fixed and not subsidy-locked?
If an amazing game was developed by a hobbiest for XBox/PS3 then MS/Sony won't get their licensing fees
Pretend I have developed a PC-based prototype of an amazing game that could be the next Smash Bros. All four players' characters are in a single room, and the action is viewed from a fixed or nearly fixed viewpoint shared by all players, just as in Bomberman. Such a game would appear to require TV output and multiple gamepads to be fully appreciated. So which p
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Given the $1,350 price tag to own all three consoles with even one controller (Xbox: $450 incl. two years of Live Gold; PS3: $500; Wii: $400 from a scalper)
Getting a Wii isn't that hard if you have any level of patience. I haven't bought one myself yet, but I check up on them at the local Wal-mart fairly often. Indeed, most of the time they are out of stock, but if I'd had bought them every time I could have I could have purchase at least 10 of the little critters in the last couple months. My brother decided he wanted one, started checking the electronics department on the way home from work each day, and found one in under 2 weeks.
Price of your time? (Score:1)
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That's assuming you buy into the opportunity cost myth for personal use anyways. Time isn't like cell phone minutes - at the end of the day
Price of sick time? (Score:1)
the store is on the way home and he's normally going to be shopping there anyways to pickup bread, milk, whatever.
I had not considered this possibility, given that there is no store that sells both milk and video games between where I work and where I live, and we typically go grocery shopping only once a week if that.
To work back into real economic terms, it's supply and demand. The demand for one person's time generally drops to 0 beyond a given amount per day. Doesn't matter what the supply is - if the demand is zero, the value is also zero.
After a certain point, things begin to interfere with sleep time. Forgoing sleep results in failure of health, which results in loss of income from the time spent on unpaid leave to recover.
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Um, I strongly disagree with you. Why? I currently only support 3 game platforms: PC, PS2, and N64. I'm cheap. Although I'd like a Wii, I'm not going out to spend the money on another consol
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If you don't want to buy a system or a game because you can't afford to or because y
EverQuest and SMAC? (Score:2)
I remember spending the first 30 minutes of my Eversmack hours trying to find a group that was worth a damn.
I've seen EverCrack [wikipedia.org] before, but "Eversmack"? What does EverQuest have to do with SMAC [wikipedia.org]?
Oh, and if I can't play it with a mouse/keyboard at 1600*1200 then it's not worth playing.
If you have friends over, how many keyboards and how many mice can you connect to your PC and let them use?
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Oh, and we swapped eversmack/evercrack a lot.
Link back atcha! http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=eversmack [urbandictionary.com]
Do the wife and kids play video games? (Score:2)
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No, friends and I go to one of our offices for said LAN parties. Stay up late, make lots of noise, alcohol, no bothering the kids.
i asked myself that once... (Score:2)
You can usually hook up several keyboards, mice may vary. Of course you may only have one game on one screen so several people playing at the same time gets rough on said keyboards trying to out control the others......just don't expect to set many high scores
Actually that was more fun once to try than some games....
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Of course you may only have one game on one screen so several people playing at the same time gets rough on said keyboards trying to out control the others
I have one PC, one 27" composite CRT monitor, and three players, and I connect three input devices through a USB hub. When these devices are gamepads, a game using DirectInput can tell which device a particular button press came from. But when these controllers are keyboards, Windows funnels all their events into one DirectInput device. Other people have reported better results using Linux-based operating systems, but as of 2007, the commercial game market for Linux lacks economies of scale compared to W
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I mean, if a man can't have a decent setup like the one I just described, what's the point? I might as well go outside or something.
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Surprising? (Score:5, Insightful)
With that out of the way, is this really surprising anyways? With Nintendo making games appeal to a much broader audience than ever before, we literally have a wide selection of video games for every market. Whether it's the sims on PC, soduku on hand-held, bowling on the Wii, or educational and learning games for the kids, I think that the US has learned to embrace the entertainment value and tailor it to everything from learning to leisure.
The only real barrier to entry is getting used to a specific UI and there are a stubborn few that will refuse to learn something new, but there are plenty willing to learn as the market adapts to them, and thus I think that adaptation will only continue to grow too.
I also think it makes sense that the hours played is flattening off. While I formerly was bad at putting a game down to go to (work / class / social interactions), I slowly realized there was a time and place for video games and began to play responsibly (although WOW is still pretty friggin addictive). I think most (we'll say 'normal') people already have this internal regulation, recovering addicts like myself that threw off the "hours played" curve are slowly coming out of the darkness.
I won't say this is a good change as educational video games are not a substitute for good parenting, only a supplement, and I see some people forget this. Additionally (and I still refuse to say this in certain terms) things like video games could be a cause of ADD and other attention disorders.
I will say that it is good to kick back and relax as long as it doesn't interfere with your life and some games can be good teaching tools if used properly.
Half of us. OK. Right. Concise. But... (Score:1)
And who ARE they?
And how come they never invites us over to their place for some games and fried carbohydrates?
Hey hey! (Score:1)
BAN ALL PLATFORMERS. THEY INCREASE VIOLENCE, OH NOES.
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What I find interesting... (Score:1, Interesting)
I don't believe, though, that most people in that study were gamers in the typical sense... those who play console or PC games. I believe a large
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Worthless statistics? (Score:2, Insightful)
I think this skews the stats a little...?
Effect of writer's strike? (Score:3, Insightful)