Xfire Purchased, Team Leaving 161
phorce phed and several other readers sent news that a system notification was sent out this evening through the Xfire IM client, to wit: "Xfire was bought by new owners today. Most of the team that has built Xfire over the last six years is leaving. We enjoyed working for you for the last 127 releases and wish we could stay to create the next 127. Good bye, good luck, and game on. — The Xfire Team." According to Wikipedia, the new owner is 3D Realms.
Don't rely on wiki too much.. (Score:5, Informative)
From what I've heard it's been edited multiple times since the announcement and both times was a different name of the buyer. Just wait until something official turns up.
What a shitty summary (Score:2, Informative)
3D Realms seems unlikely and the random edit was only in Wikipedia for a few minutes. And why does the summary link to the static "down" html page? The website is up and working. Nice twisting there.
But really, the previous owner was Music Television. I always thought that was a little bit weird.
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Because that static page is what xfire is showing the public. Go to the forums instead: http://www.xfire.com/forums/182619/ [xfire.com]
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From Kotaku [kotaku.com]
Titan Gaming, a startup company, has purchased Xfire from MTV." ... "I'm just an (eX)fire Web Developer; the Marketing Department is gone too, so you'll have to wait for Titan to issue the press release, sorry."
Re:What a shitty summary (Score:4, Informative)
Titan Gaming acquires Xfire.
August 2, 2010--Titan Gaming acquires Xfire.
Titan will be taking on the Xfire name, with a focus towards ongoing innovation in the gaming space. The Xfire services will continue uninterrupted for its users. Xfire redefined how gamers communicate, Titan...
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And naturally kdawson will be updating this story to correct the misinformation, right? Hello? Is this thing on? [crickets]
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Re:Don't rely on wiki too much.. (Score:5, Funny)
You do realize who posted this story right? If you went by his house and scrawled "Aliens ate Sarah Palin using the new X75 fork from IBM" on his sidewalk in chalk it'd be here the next day as gospel.
Please Gaming Gods, No! (Score:4, Funny)
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Nukem 'till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!
no buyout. (Score:5, Funny)
At 127 releases; they were on the verge of an 8 bit signed integer overflow. I suspect one of the managers panicked and convinced the CEO to sell before they had a chance to launch another and have to start over from scratch anyway.
Re:no buyout. (Score:5, Funny)
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I wish I had mod points.
+1 on parent
Great subtle dry wit on IPv4/CIDR/NAT :)
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Re:no buyout. (Score:5, Funny)
Great subtle dry wit on IPv4/CIDR/NAT :)
Yeah . . . I can just imagine you as a kid.
"Hahaha. That joke's awesome! It's funny because the boy yelled 'Wolf!' but nobody believed him after lying about it so many times. Brilliant!" ;)
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Now that 3D Realms owns the joint they don't have to worry about releasing anything preventing this possible catastrophe
3D realms? Ummm... No. (Score:3, Informative)
Not according to Wikipedia -- according to some random edit made to wikipedia with no source and reverted minutes later. Given DNF jokes, I hardly think this bears mentioning.
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It's been bought (Score:2)
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I would be happy if Valve bought them. Xfire is a rather bad piece of software nowadays when compared to what Steam has managed. No detection or anything, in Steam you just add the app from a list of installed software on your computer and it Just Works (TM). Xfire on the other hand simply refuses to support 64-bit systems and out of maybe fifty games I played five had the overlay functioning.
Staff Leaving Can Only Mean One of Two Things (Score:1)
1: The buyout was so huge that they all decided to "go out on top" with a huge retirement package.
2: The team was so unhappy with the terms of Viacom's selling of the company that they are all leaving in lock-step.
I'm, unfortunately, leaning towards the second option as it seems more realistic. I always knew the Viacom buyout would end in tears, I just didn't know it would take this long.
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I think you have your companies mixed up unless you know something about Viacom the rest of the world doesn't, they're one of Activision's competitors (Activision owns the Guitar Hero franchise and Viacom acquired Harmonix, makers of Rock Band). Activision Blizzard was formed when Activision and the Vivendi Games group (of which Blizzard was a part) merged.
Beyond that after playing Starcraft II, hearing that Blizzard was destroyed is certainly news to me.
What is up with this site lately? (Score:5, Insightful)
And by the way
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I agree about the Microsoft icon. Use it for Apple. I can't imagine what you'd use for Microsoft though.
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A picture of a giant bald ape?
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A picture of a giant bald ape?
You mean Kwyjibo? [grawrd.com]
Re:What is up with this site lately? (Score:4, Insightful)
"I can't imagine what you'd use for Microsoft though."
I thought the three stooges sounded pretty good as an icon for Microsoft.
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I thought the three stooges sounded pretty good as an icon for Microsoft.
It's not.
The Stooges were in their prime in 1940. The Borg made their first appearance in Star Trek:TNG in 1989. Cowboy Bebop aired in 1998.
Slashdot could stand to look a little less adolescent and a little more trend-forward.
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"The Stooges were in their prime in 1940. The Borg made their first appearance in Star Trek:TNG in 1989. Cowboy Bebop aired in 1998.
Slashdot could stand to look a little less adolescent and a little more trend-forward."
At the rate Hollywood is going, they'll probably do a Three Stooges reboot within the next five years. Then'll it'll be brand new again.
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Ummmm.... [uproxx.com]
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Screw Software Engineering. I'm going to Hollywood to become a movie exec.
Re:What is up with this site lately? (Score:4, Insightful)
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A chair with motion blur :)
And for Apple you use Steve heil!
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Well, Bill Gates has pretty much nothing to do with Microsoft any more so yeah it's outdated. I think an ape or a flying chair would probably suffice. "What do you want to throw today?"
As for /. we are still here so it can't be that bad. It does compare to the tabloids (UK) with regard to its sensationalism, bias and quality of "journalism". But just like the tabloids, if you don't take it seriously and instead treat it as entertainment, it's much easier to appreciate.
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i heard they're going to turn slashdot into a giant invisible hot buffet table and then sell it.
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I like the MS icon. It recalls the days when MS really was something to worry about and is way better than one of Balmer photoshoped to look like Bozo the Clown, which would be my choice.
To describe MS's current managment as "the three stooges after a weekend bender." is overrating MS's managment and insulting the three stooges. The Stoogies were way more innovative.
Re:What is up with this site lately? (Score:5, Insightful)
Considering that Slashdot didn't even bother to report on this New York Times story about Slashdot [nytimes.com] (even though it appeared in the Firehose [slashdot.org] twice [slashdot.org] (at least), but they DID report on The Science of Caddyshack [slashdot.org] (in Idle), are you surprised?
(oh, BTW mods - I really don't give a shit about karma anymore - that's how big a "joke" Slashdot has become. Prove me right about this place swirling the drain....)
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Where should we long time Slashdotters go then?
Pay Rusty a visit at www.kuro5hin.org. Then you'll really pine for the old days.
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Where should we long time Slashdotters go then?
Pay Rusty a visit at www.kuro5hin.org. Then you'll really pine for the old days.
I'm not sure I see what you mean ...
"Pissing in the shower (3.00 / 3) (#23) [kuro5hin.org]
by rusty on Fri May 28, 2010 at 03:41:16 PM EST
...is environmentally responsible. You use gallons less water than if you showered and pissed separately.
Showering in piss alone would be even better. "
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I'm sorry, that information is only available to users with the Member of the {1,2,3,4,5} Digit UID Club achievement.
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That way say, kdawson could be moderated off the editing team if /. so desired.
I think that is desired! How can I sign up for your newsletter? kdawson's "editing" seems to be skewed towards making wildly inaccurate claims on the front page, so as to spread misinformation and cause a flurry of posts explaining why he is wrong. It attracts the wrong crowd (let's keep digg, reddit and 4chan where they are, thanks) and dumbs down Slashdot in general.
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You seem to have missed the bit where he said GOOD.
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Fine print: By looking at this response you are in agreement that 50% of all revenues from doshslat.com will paid to me, in monthly sums of cash to be delivered at a location yet to be determined.
Re:What is up with this site lately? (Score:5, Insightful)
Some interesting excerpts from the article:
"However this relatively narrow focus means that Slashdot has not grown to have broader appeal, like StumbleUpon and Digg. "
"In addition, Slashdot has historically favored stories submitted from traditional media, over 'new media' such as blogs. Both of these things have made Slashdot seem behind the times and a bit too closed minded."
"Likewise, library student @battmutler commented that Slashdot "seems to always be 12-36 hours behind the curve.""
"However the impact that this community has on the social Web is minimal, according to Woopra's statistics. "
Seriously? The issue is that Slashdot is 12 hours behind "the curve"? It's impact is minimal on the social web? It's not Digg? That's just fucking retarded.
Let me summarize why I read Slashdot and not Digg or random blogs: I don't care if I'm behind 12 hours. I don't care about reading stories found at digg and StumbleUpon. I don't care to have an impact on the social web.
I read Slashdot for two reasons: it gives me a broad overview of what's going in topics I find interesting, and the commentary is just about as good as ever - or as bad, depending on your take.
Re:What is up with this site lately? (Score:5, Insightful)
The NYT article contends that
We've probably lost a few great commentators over the years, but it's likely not because
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^That.
and most especially this:
"We've probably lost a few great commentators over the years, but it's likely not because
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Re: not growing v. losing... exactly. If someone wants to see a losing site, surf to kuro5hin.org. Once in a blue moon I'll surf there to see what's up, and find that the leading posts haven't changed in weeks. I could probably host the site on my DSL connection.
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Wasn't that the one that went invite-only, or closed new membership completely, or something like that?
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Re:What is up with this site lately? (Score:5, Insightful)
Can I let you all in on a little secret?
"The Curve" does not exist. It's a concept created by press agents and PR flacks to try to force media outlets to jump on their bogus stories before taking the time to make sure they're not complete bullshit. It's a far sight more important to get it right than to get it fast, but our corporate media has gotten it backwards. The worst part is that they try to cover up their incompetence with assertions like "I had to go with it, it was breaking news" or "we didn't want to be scooped by our competitor".
Have any of you not read a superior in-depth, accurate article on a topic because some tabloid had gotten to it first with a lot of crap? Do any of you read Slashdot because you expect to be among the first to read about a "breaking story"?
Now there's even a further reason why people are pushing "breaking stories": because then they can get out in front and try to shape the way the story is told. They can get away with that because most people are pretty dumb. So if someone comes out with a breaking story, let's say that "So and so, who is black, admits to being a racist and is cheered by the audience, which was also black" it's not going to matter that the whole thing was completely fabricated, because it confirmed a bunch of stupid people's small-mindedness (and small-minded people just love to have their small-mindedness confirmed and affirmed). But if you're someone who maybe tries to be aware of what's going on in the world, and you see this story picked up by the number one cable news network (this is all purely hypothetical) and then repeated on the numbers two and three networks because they don't want to be scooped, and you buy into the story, you're going to look like a complete horse's ass when you find out that it was all bullshit to begin with. You're going to feel used, and sullied and well, kind of stupid for being in such a goddamn hurry that you'd pay any attention to the number one cable news network to begin with (hypothetically).
So you know what? Fuck "the curve". You don't have to be ahead of it any more than you have to be "outside the box" or "in the know" or "in touch" because none of those things matter as long as you're capable of a little discernment.
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Could not agree more!
Re:What is up with this site lately? (Score:4, Insightful)
Funilly enough this ties back to the crisis of news reporting:
- There is no more in-depth news reporting in daily news media: the ones that on their own words are at or ahead of the "curve" just parrot events, hear-saying and gossip.
In fact, thinking about it, the main reason I come to Slashdot is for the further in-depth analysis which are the comments.
For example, just look at some of the articles about the Internet filter in Australia:
- You'll see comments from ozzies explaining how the current Australian government has to pander to politicians from a specific conservative state to keep support for other laws.
- You'll see comments explaining how the state is set-up in Australia (i.e. the dual-chamber system)
- You'll see technology comments on the technical viability of such sytems.
- You'll be pointed out other similar systems in other countries and past news about those systems.
When was the last time that any mainstream daily news media actually had an article about some political decision in some country of other and actually explained the political background in that country and/or pointed out similar decisions in other countries and subsequent results?
In fact, when was the last time that any mainstream daily news media had an article about basic human rights, liberty and/or privacy?
An this is not just limited to ideological subjects:
- Go to articles about medicine and you're likelly to find comments from doctors.
- Go to articles about a scientific area and you're likelly to find comments from researchers in that area.
- Go to (the early) articles about the oil-spill in the Gulf and you'll find comments from people that work in propection in the oil industry.
For all the dross, baseless opinionating and ad hominem attacks, almost any Slashdot article together with it's comments has more in-depth reporting than almost any "news story" in daily mainstream news media today.
PS: I say "daily" news media because I believe some of the weekly and monthly magazines - you know, the ones behind the curve - do have more in-depth news reporting.
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No, most people read Slashdot for the comments.
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Look at idle for a minute. No really, go have a look at it.
No, really, I'm not going to look at it. I have it turned off in my preferences for a reason. Are you seriously complaining about the content in Idle? Here's a fucking clue: "change the channel".
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12 hours is very generous. About 1/2 of the stories I see on slashdot were on digg, not 12 hours ago, but 2-3 days ago.
A few hours behind is fine. But when we're talking days, when the rest of the internet has moved on, it gets a bit much.
Especially when slashdot is reporting some inaccurate information that was already cleared up days ago. That is when
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Let them move on. I still see plenty of insightful commentary about the subject matter that isn't found other places. People come here for the user generated content that happens despite poor summaries.
I'm with PopeRatzo above. Fuck the out of control bandwagon.
Much of the good content isn't really that time sensitive. A good article about a research project is still relevant and interesting for some time publish
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The problem isn't simply that they've moved on. it is that Slashdot has turned around and summarized the story with something that was debunked 2 days before it made it to Slashdot because they're so far behind the curve. Slashdot will actually post some of that sensational news a day or two after another site and act like its new and that the rest of the internet hasn't already clued in that it is junk.
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Tin Man, How Can I Ever Thank You (GIF)
Prey Fish Turns Predator (this one isn't too bad actually, i was shocked it wasn't an animated gif)
20 Classic Opening Lines In Books
etc etc etc, they can keep this shit tbh
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I like where they stated, ", Slashdot "drives close to 0% of traffic to the sites Woopra measures.""
Who the fuck is woopra?
There are two standing issues I have with this statement which make it a non-issue.
I come to slashdot for the technical discussion on the matter and there is a good deal of user generated content. This is exactly why meme's have developed regarding TFA. It is considered roughly the norm to read the user content above the link posted because slashdot users cannot be bothered with such mu
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Apparently a web analysis tool like Google Analytics... but in REAL TIME!!!
Used by 100k sites, whatever that's worth.
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Oh, I don't disagree with your analysis of the content of the NYT article - indeed, see my Journal Entry [slashdot.org] on the subject for more.
But the fact that Slashdot did not even see fit to post the story, and allow discussion of the issues raised - that they weren't even willing to take the risk that people like you would find fault with the story - THAT is what is the real "tell" on what is going on.
Or maybe it's more along the lines of "...and nothing of value was lost." If you agree with the analysis that the article is bogus (and clearly, with a statement like "Oh, feel the BURN!", you feel otherwise) then I fail to see any significance in posting the story. People can, and will continue, to grouse about Slashdot without a topic dedicated to it. Although it would be interesting if said grousing was actually on-topic for once; I don't know what the complainers would do with themselves.
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Why would anyone want slashdot to became like that piece of sh*t known as facebook (if there's one site that has a worse UI than slashdot it HAS to be facebook). Tis is a tech web site, not myspace.
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Considering that Slashdot didn't even bother to report on this New York Times story about Slashdot [nytimes.com] (even though it appeared in the Firehose [slashdot.org] twice [slashdot.org] (at least),
I can see why they didn't bother to report that NT times story, it is utter sh!t. I am sorry but really there is nothing news worthy in the whole piece. Maybe their point has some weight to it but the way there reported it definitely didn't. They could have (and probably did) just of made it up.
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Hah! Pretty funny coming from a NEWSPAPER...
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No kidding. I laughed when I read that.
And the "data" is a joke, considering how many users block the very same tools used to gather the data. But I'm not interested in how many people come to the site. I'm more interested in what they have to say. And out of all the sites out there, I think Slashdot's users still have the most interesting (informative, and insightful) things to say. Sure, there are other niche sites where the users know more about a particular topic. But here, there's guaranteed to be at l
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Considering that Slashdot didn't even bother to report on this New York Times story about Slashdot
Interesting article. Slashdot isn't a big social media site. Social media is generally the term that journalists use for sites like Facebook and MySpace. They compare Slashdot traffic to; Stumble Upon, Digg, Reddit (never been to any of those on purpose) and Hacker News (never heard of it). And then we are asked to respond to the article via Twitter. (never used it)
There is good and bad about Slashdot, ther
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I can certainly see why someone would not want to post an article stating my site is losing relevance. At worst, people agree with that, and it hurts me. At best, people consider the whole thing a troll and start drama, and yes I know /. loves drama. Either way, the end result isn't good.
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it's all right to change the Microsoft icon. It was funny twelve years ago. It's kind of retarded now. Especially since the company now looks to be run by the three stooges after a weekend bender.
The geek is easily distracted by glitz:
In the most recent three months, Microsoft earned $4.52 billion in profits, versus Apple's $3.25 billion and Google's $1.8 billion. Lost from view is Microsoft's very best story -- its transformation into a powerhouse supplier of the specialized software that meets the comple
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It would appear they at least recently hired kdawson, who is of the same "quantity over quality" mentality of cory doctorow. That's one problem with the site. All the stories at the beginning of the week are terrible, and lo and behold, they're released to the front page by kdawson. There's a huge discrepency in story quality, headline and commentary depending on who posts them.
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Sorry if I'm wrong about this, but aren't slashdot stories submitted by users and voted up or down by users in the firehose? Editors just OK the highest rated ones... They don't do much else, from my observation.
You're right about wikipedia, of course.
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That's sort of the problem. Editors are supposed to, you know, edit the things they post.
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I have the simular sensation, and not just this site but alot of fluffy content: The internet was a geek-out place for the last decade.
Now it's just like "interaction television" and advertizing is taking over wheras it used to be a common technological playground.
I wonder who still is getting experimental instead of "studying frameworks", and trying to figure things out?
News online is diluted and reintrepreted from only a few main sources (everything is echo'd around, reaggregated, reposted, retweeted,
Looking around (Score:2, Interesting)
xfire itself [xfire.com]
Team Leaving
August 2, 2010--Xfire has been purchased by another company. Most of the team that has brought you Xfire for the last 6 years is leaving, including me. We've enjoyed our time and I personally am sad that I was only able to do 127 releases. Good bye and game on!
--- Chris
Kotaku [kotaku.com]
Kotaku has tried to reach Xfire for additional comment through a press inquiry email address. Any that comes will be updated here.
So in other words, 3D Realms seems more of a rumor than anything. Hey, let's just say EA bought it. Or Curse?
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If it was EA, I'm uninstalling.
I like a lot of their games, but I do not like them.
Well played, sir. (Score:3, Funny)
Step 1: Edit Wikipedia article to make outrageous claim. /.
Step 2: Submit story about the news to
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit.
Discuss.
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step 3 is wave a piece of cheese in front of kdawson's face.
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Sorry, I didn't really clarify: the outrageous claim I'm talking about is that the "the new owner is 3D Realms." 3D Realms is a company that recently cancelled the main project it had under development, laid off most of its staff, and is facing a breach of contract lawsuit from the publisher. I would have a hard time believing an announcement that 3D Realms acquired any company even if it was confirmed in 10 different major newspapers.
wikipedia is not a good news source (Score:5, Informative)
source [xfire.com]
Massive quit (Score:4, Interesting)
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I imagine this would be part of the buyout proposal if it matters to the purchasing company. You'd have to notify every employee and have them agree to terms of employment with the new owner (which may just be the same terms, but not necessarily). I mean, you can't force people to work at a certain place, so you'd have to new contracts set up to retain the employees. Of course that means you have to spend longer in negotiations with more people knowing details of the deal, which increases the likelihood of
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' So is the law OK with it or can the new owners sue or whatever ?'
sue whom ? it's their own failure in the purchase process if they failed to set up sufficient benefits for the existing employees. suing one self is not that profitable.
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You aren't really familiar with what Xfire is, are you?
Re:Why bother with seperate widgets? (Score:4, Funny)
Actually I'd never heard of it, and so had no idea at all, but thanks to the excellent summary I now have only almost no idea at all.
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sure I do, it's a framework [codehaus.org] that allows quick generation of web-service servers/clients.
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Not sure where you are getting off accusing games to be bundled with 'crap widgets' ('widgets', seriously?) Xfire was completely 3rd party. I can't think of any games off the top of my head that came bundled with it, though I am sure there were a few. I used it once for like a week and got rid of it, I never used it, though I thought it was a pretty decent application.
I really can't think of any random crap 'widgets' other than Gamespy.../shudder. I'm, sure there are a few other random things I'm forgett
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This is what I was thinking. Xfire was really neat when I tried it like 5 years ago but I could never get enough other friends to use it for it to hit critical mass. Steam on the other hand IS my social network. My friends aren't on Facebook, AIM, or Xfire but they're ALL on Steam. Everyone I know uses it to buy games. We use it to buy games for our friends that are broke. Even games that don't use Steam like Starcraft2 we run through Steam. It lets everyone else know that you're playing and gives in-game a
This needs to stop. (Score:2, Offtopic)
I don't need to see this right at the top of the comments [1]. I thought slashdot released stories earlier to logged in users or subscribers? If so, then how are ACs getting first comment?
-Jar
[1] Yes I know I can change my comment browsing level, but I shouldn't have to. Besides, thanks to the useless mods on /. there's a lot of good stuff modded down into the minuses.