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Video It's New. It's a League. It's for Gamers. It's the League for Gamers! (Video) 62

Intrepid correspondent Timothy Lord writes, "I talked at SXSW with Kari Hale of League For Gamers, an organization started just a few months ago by Red 5 Studios founder CEO Mark Kern. (Kern was also team lead for World of Warcraft.) League for Gamers shares some of the goals of groups like the EFF and EPIC, but — as you might guess from the name — is tightly focused on the world of gaming. The group owes its existence to SOPA; the money used to start it up had initially been budgeted for Red 5 Studios' appearance at the most recent E3, but E3 sponsor's Entertainment Software Association's support for SOPA led Kern to withdraw from the show. Kari gave a quick rundown of the origins of the League, what it hopes to accomplish, and what sorts of efforts it's so far undertaken."
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It's New. It's a League. It's for Gamers. It's the League for Gamers! (Video)

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  • Hmmmm (Score:5, Funny)

    by Dexter Herbivore ( 1322345 ) on Wednesday March 14, 2012 @10:54AM (#39352557) Journal
    I am intrigued by their ideas, and wish to subscribe to their newsletter.
  • Yes, but... (Score:4, Funny)

    by artemis67 ( 93453 ) on Wednesday March 14, 2012 @11:07AM (#39352735)

    Are they extraordinary gamers?

  • by Anonymous Coward

    but E3 sponsor's Entertainment Software Association's support for SOPA

    I suppose it makes sense, since E3 is slowly slipping into obscurity due to the internet.

  • social activism (Score:4, Insightful)

    by nefus ( 952656 ) on Wednesday March 14, 2012 @11:23AM (#39352929) Homepage
    It's just a social activism site using gamers as it's engine. Nothing more. I'll bet you dollars to donuts the mission will evolve into all sorts of things we're not interested in supporting within a year or so.
    • It's just a social activism site using gamers as it's engine. Nothing more.

      Really, nothing more? Look what an activism organization composed of people who shoot real guns can accomplish, the National Rifle Association. Now consider an activism organization composed of the more numerous people who shoot digital guns in video games. If you can get the digital shooters to show up on election day and vote in a manner supporting their cause quite a bit could be accomplished.

      The real currency of politics is voters, not dollars. Like petitions, dollars are just a tool to influence vot

  • by zzsmirkzz ( 974536 ) on Wednesday March 14, 2012 @11:24AM (#39352949)
    Nothing like watching a beautiful women talking about video games to start the morning off right. Although, I'm thinking it may also be a subliminal advertisement for FireFall because that is what is most stuck in my mind, lol :)
    • Red 5 had a majority stake bought by a company called "The9", or "Di Jiu Chengshi" which is the former operator of World of Warcraft in China, based in Shanghai.

      They are famous for two things:

      • - Inability to work with Chinese government departments
      • - An abundance of attractive young women.

      They're front desk has maybe 5 model quality ladies just sitting there, signing for packages, etc. I know someone who was a lead programmer there, she's slamming hot and wears tight jeans and towering heels. This is the inv

    • where are the beautiful women? what video were you watching?

    • What color was the handkerchief in her hand?
  • by QuasiSteve ( 2042606 ) on Wednesday March 14, 2012 @11:34AM (#39353103)

    Title: Introducing the League for Gamers
    Description: A voice for gamers and game developers

    [00:00] <TITLE>
    The Slashdot logo with "News for nerds. Stuff that matters." scrolls across the bottom of the view from left to right.
    The view is of interviewee Kari Hale in a hallway, standing near exit doors - as good as location as any.

    [00:00] Kari>
    The League for Gamers is a non-profit organization that was started by our CEO at Red Five Studios, Mark Kern and it brings gamers and game developers together to give us a united voice and to support gaming rights.

    [00:13] Timothy>
    How long has the League been around?

    [00:15] Kari>
    It's been around for a couple of months now.
    We were prompted to start the organization when all the SOPA things were going down.
    We actually shut down our FireFall and Red Five Studios website and we decided we wanted to make this a longer term thing to pursue.

    [00:29] Timothy>
    What is some examples of what League for Gamers does?

    [00:33] Kari>
    What we do is we try to be politically active.
    I can give two examples of what we've done in the past:

    [00:38] Kari>
    With SOPA for example I just mentioned we took our websites down, we started a petition where we got thousands of signatures from gamers and game developers to protest SOPA and PIPA.

    [00:50] Kari>
    Another one that we just successfully completed was for the Oklahoma Gaming Tax.
    What Oklahoma tried to do was put a 1% tax on all games that were rated Teen and above.
    What we did is we sent a petition out to our members and we protested it and the bill has since been dropped.

    [01:08] Timothy>
    How (? stateful)

    [01:09] Kari>
    A very interesting story, actually, Red Five Studios CEO Mark Kern, we had invested about $15,000 to attend E3.
    When we found out that the ESA who puts on E3 supports SOPA, we withdrew the money, we canceled our booth at E3, and we took that money and we started League for Gamers.
    In the future we'll probably be having memberships - within the next month or so - all the people that sign up now won't have to pay dues, but they're more than welcome to donate to the cause.

    [01:39] Timothy>
    Who should be part of League for Gamers?
    Is it mostly for people in the industry?
    Is it meant for ordinary people?
    Who should really be concerned about this?

    [1:47] Kari>
    I think League for Gamers actually casts a pretty wide net.
    You have the gamer who doesn't want their rights taken away, they want to be able to express themselves freely online.
    You have the indie game developer that's not properly being represented by organizations like the ESA, that tend to represent the bigger companies.
    But also, we really do try to work for First Amendment rights, and that's something that applies to anybody who uses the internet and supports free speech.

    [02:13] Timothy>
    One more thing, a question I didn't have until just now, but it's from a game company [...]

    [02:19] Kari>

    [02:19.5] Timothy>
    [...] basically, the background, [...]

    [02:20] Kari>

    [02:20.5] Timothy>
    [...] and, does it benefit everybody in the industry?
    Is it tied to [?] companies?
    Talk about how political or apolitical the industry tied it is.

    [2:33.5] Kari>
    The League for Gamers?
    Well, I can say right now, we're not tied to any ... we're not politically affiliated in any way.
    We're just a group of people that want our voices to be heard.
    We're not lobbying, we don't have people in Washington that are lobbying for us right now.
    It's really an organic organization that really does support the smaller gamer that right now - his voice is being lost

    [02:54] <TITLE>
    The Slashdot logo with "News for nerds. Stuff that matters." scrolls across the bottom of the view from left to right.

    • This is, for the lack of a better term, retarded. "Gamers rights"? What exactly are those? The right to play games? The right not to have your entertainment medium taxed? This is the sort of thing that pushes me away from "gaming" culture. The idea that a group of people who consume a particular form of entertainment need a group to represent them is a bit ridiculous. Game developers might want to form a group in order to get better working conditions and rules on "crunch" time, but this is too much for me.

      • by Creepy ( 93888 )

        How about the same rights as non-gamers in regard to speech? I would imagine the ESRB would slap an AO on a video game featuring a topless African tribal unless the developer added a bra, even though it is culturally correct and I've seen National Geographic footage of a tribe of such women and it was rated G in the US.

        I also had questions about why such a group is needed, though, because there already is a video game voters network, and SOPA/PIPA really didn't have anything to do with gamer's rights IMO, b

      • "I don't think this is a very popular opinion, but maybe someone can post a few reasons as to why they see my position as wrong."

        I can give you a fuck tonne of reasons why gamers should get political. The tradition of open sourcing commercial PC games has dwindled to a crawl with multi-platform games. This can only be a bad thing from an innovation and modding standpoint. Many modern games started off as mods: League of legends, heroes of newerth and others are derived from the DOTA user created mod for

  • by wbr1 ( 2538558 ) on Wednesday March 14, 2012 @11:44AM (#39353271)
    That /. can post some interesting stories about gaming from time to time, yet has a gaming 'slashbox' that looks like it has not been updated in about 8 or 10 years?
  • by devjoe ( 88696 ) on Wednesday March 14, 2012 @11:45AM (#39353281)
    The summary said:

    but — as you might guess from the name mdash; is tightly focused on the world of gaming.

    I associate the name mdash with HTML authoring, not the world of gaming, so I would not have guessed that. :-)

  • by Rinisari ( 521266 ) on Wednesday March 14, 2012 @11:58AM (#39353489) Homepage Journal

    Does does League of Gamers differ from the Video Game Voters Network []?

  • by geekoid ( 135745 ) <dadinportland&yahoo,com> on Wednesday March 14, 2012 @12:10PM (#39353627) Homepage Journal

    it's 2012. It is not only no longer 'shocking' or 'amazing' that women are gamers, it's not even relevant.


  • "I'm an internet athlete!"

    *farts, scratches bedsores, inhales entire bag of Cheetos*

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