Hackers Claim PlayStation Network Take-Down 97
This morning, Sony's PlayStation network was knocked offline for North American users. According to ShackNews,
Several tweets have gone up throughout Saturday evening, in which Lizard Squad has taken responsibility for the attacks. The group started with Blizzard's servers that include Hearthstone, Diablo 3, World of Warcraft and others. The group quickly spread to League of Legends and Path of Exile before deciding to spread their terror to PlayStation Network.
Sony apparently had some trouble admitting that the network wasn't behaving as it should be, but came around with acknowledgment on twitter.
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Get raped, faggot.
Well now. That's no way for an executive of Sony to act, especially the CIO.
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It's very irresponsible for you to ascribe such a reprehensible and homophobic sentiment to the CIO of Sony.
That comment was clearly made by the CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment, Shawn Layden.
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Shawn Layden is CEO of SCEA (Sony Computer Entertainment America) not SCE(i). SCEI is led by Andrew House. Layden is under him. SCEI's former head, Kaz Hirai, runs Sony as a whole now.
Which is a good thing, it basically means the gaijin are running SCEI now so we get a better designed console without a crazy arcane architecture and less of the "lets treat the bigger American market like crap and restrict SCEA from doing what's best for the American market and fawn over SCEJ" from SCE.
I have no love for S
Re: Should of never got rid of other OS and outso (Score:2)
Yes, let's make the Playstation a standard American console loke the Xbox instead of keeping its distinct Japanese flavor.
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Japanese flavor may have mattered to the excessively japanophilic otaku...but they/we aren't as big a market segment anymore. Making PS4 development friendlier to US and indie developers has most certainly helped the PS4.
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Is that STILL an actual insult in this day and age? Do you actually expect someone to feel bad when they read that? The hell is wrong with you?
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Get raped, faggot.
I just paid my taxes. Next month, perhaps?
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Script kiddies attacking PSN doesn't affect Sony as much as it affects the users that play online or pay for the service.
If they manage to repeat the deed next week, you can bet you gamepad it will affect Sony.
Mainly because I don't see MSN Live players complaining about loss of service, do you? XBox owners don't have any reason to fear losing next weekend services, while PSN users will live the week worrying about.
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XBox owners don't have any reason to fear losing next weekend services, while PSN users will live the week worrying about.
Oh rly?
Xbox Live Experiencing Issues, PSN Attackers Taking Credit [gameinformer.com]
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XBox owners don't have any reason to fear losing next weekend services, while PSN users will live the week worrying about.
Oh rly?
Xbox Live Experiencing Issues, PSN Attackers Taking Credit [gameinformer.com]
Well, now they have. Why Lizard Squat took so long? =P
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How do you know they won't hit MSN Live servers sometime between now and next weekend?
I didn't knew. By the time I wrote that, I hadn't received any report on a MSN Live attack yet. Now I have.
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Spelling properly will help others to treat you opinions with more respect.
I prefer to respect people for their opinions, not their grammar. As you can easily note. ;-)
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You got me. I am appropriately admonished.
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Mainly because I don't see MSN Live players complaining about loss of service, do you? XBox owners don't have any reason to fear losing next weekend services, while PSN users will live the week worrying about.
Yeah, I can assure you that Playstation owners can't sleep properly and all they think during the work hours is whether PSN will be down next weekend.
Are you 12?
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Actually, CFW is freakishly easy to install. It's just an offline update.
No one uses OtherOS anymore. The reason you use CFW is pirating games and all that. It always has been since the OtherOS folks, pissed at losing it, hacked the PS3 to restore it. Which ended up leaving a huge hole for everyone else to exploit, so there are more than a few ISO loaders and dumpers and all that.
Not sure about their status to
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Jerks (Score:4, Funny)
Why do they always have to do this when I have a bout of insomnia and would really like to get online and shoot some Geth? Ugh.
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Yeah, ME3 has a multiplayer portion which was kind of an afterthought but a lot of people (myself included) really like it.
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This is why I keep playing Doom. Nobody's trying to fuck that community up. Plenty of awesome game modes, fun times.
Did they also ground a flight? (Score:5, Interesting)
Saw some anger against Lizard Squad on Twitter, and after looking into it, I'm not sure but it certainly appears that they called in a bomb threat on a flight the Sony CEO (or some other bigwig, I forget) was taking, and ended up getting it grounded. There's some other claims about them being based in the so called Islamic State in Iraq, challenging FBI agents to come and get them.
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Re:Did they also ground a flight? (Score:4, Informative)
It was John Smedley, CEO of SOE, according to his Twitter account [twitter.com]. His American Airlines flight was diverted from San Diego to Phoenix.
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It was John Smedley, CEO of SOE, according to his Twitter account [twitter.com]. His American Airlines flight was diverted from San Diego to Phoenix.
If it was anyone else besides Smedley, I'd be mad at them. Like Dick Cheney, Stalin, Hitler... but Smedley? Yes, make him miserable. On the bright side, at least the jerk doesn't have a private jet.
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Beacuse no one ever DoSes PC [theregister.co.uk]
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Well... I was never DDoSed when playing Quake I's Team Fortress with my friends. :-)
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I wrote a tool back in the day that would boot anybody off any Quake 1 server (except CMU guys off CMU servers - they actually knew how to protect their networks). It was great!
So it was you? Bastard! :-)
Jokes aside, we setup our own server - you would have to portscan half the Internet in order to find our server to DDoS us. :-)
Setting your own game server is Quake 1's most missed feature to me, the rocket jump being the second! :-D
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Well, given that both iD and Valve games use client-server models with low numbers of players, is there really any point to trying to DDoS a server?
Security isn't in the budget (Score:1, Insightful)
Keep telling yourself that Sony.
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Let's look at the positives! (Score:3, Funny)
Suddenly the world was more productive!
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By unplugging people from their video games, they might pause from their mindless game playing and get involved for change...
Nope, not really, they'll just be that much more pissed at hackers and be more willing to support anti-hack legislation when it rolls around.
Seriously, stop being the bully in the playground, it helps no one.
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Your dreaming buddy!
If they aren't involved now they won't be anymore involved without the video game. People either have will power or they don't. Taking away a bad habit will just make them find a new one.
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No, we all came to troll on Slashdot instead
Spread their terror (Score:2)
The group quickly spread to League of Legends and Path of Exile before deciding to spread their terror to PlayStation Network.
Terror? People were terrified by this? Really?
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https://twitter.com/LizardSquad [twitter.com]
http://www.vg247.com/2014/08/25/psn-ddos-hacker-bomb-threats-john-smedley-soe-fbi/ [vg247.com]
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Free 2 Play is pretty terrifying.
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You must be new here.
progress (Score:3)
Aren't you glad that you play games that require connection to Playstation Network?
You know this never happened when people were playing Starcraft on dedicated servers. When you let one company be the nexus for your ability to use an expensive piece of equipment like a Playstation, you have to expect that some days you just won't be able to play the games that you bought.
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considering that TFS said that TFH (The Fucking Hackers) started out by targeting Blizzard and later switched to PSN. and are now targeting Xbox Live. I think talking about Starcraft but focusing on PSN is wrong.
These jerks are targeting everyone. PC and console, Microsoft and Sony.
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These jerks are targeting everyone. PC and console, Microsoft and Sony.
The GP's point was that Starcraft is possible to play on a server unlikely to get DDoS'd. When my friends and I play Starcraft, it's over a LAN with no internet access at all. If you wish to DDoS my game server, you'll have to trespass to do it.
Targeting any given company's game servers doesn't affect the titles who don't require that players be online to play them.
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When my friends and I play Starcraft, it's over a LAN with no internet access at all.
What is this, are you 20, living in a dorm/college apartment, and living in 1995? Do you really want to go to the hassle of carting around hardware, setting up networks, coordinating everyone's free time, just for LAN play in this day and age?
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57, and yes. :)
[John]
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i agree with you.
how hard is it to put up a damn network? and then i don't have to put up with these bastard lizard pricks ruining everyones fun.
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Don't get me wrong, playing with your friends while in the same room is INSANELY FUN. Seriously they are a lot more fun than Internet+VOP can ever be.
But LAN parties aren't my thing anymore unless we all have gaming-worthy laptops
Carry in your tower + monitor + box of stuff (keyboard, mouse, cables, etc.). Which can be a real pain depending on where you friend lives: in an apartment, where you have to park 100 meters away and then take the stairs. Sometimes make multiple trips.
By the time you bring in YO
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Not 20, not living in a dorm, and not living in 1995.
Most of my friends have laptops, and amongst the reasons we play older titles is so that they don't need $5,000 Alienware laptops to join. Setup time isn't terrible, especially since "connect to the wifi" is all it really takes (though we do prefer hardwired where practical)...that, and newer games don't work over a LAN anyway.
"Coordinating everyone's free time" is something that literally everyone does when they throw a party...so gaming is a less accept
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Well, $400 for the PS4, $60 per game and let's assume at least, what do you think, the average person buys a total of five or six games over the life of the PS4? So now you're up to over $700 of useless kit when you can't connect to Sony's DRM server.
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Yeah, that makes tones of sense. Oh look, I want to play but none of my friends are online. "I WISH I COULD PLAY WITH OTHER PEOPLE ONLINE WITHOUT HAVING TO LOOK LIKE A CREEP ON MIRC OR OTHER PUBLIC FORUMS LOOKING FOR A FRIEND TO PLAY WITH".
You should not be allowed to own a car because it's too much evolution for you.
1% down time doesn't justify dropping a perfectly good working server model.
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Is there something wrong with the dedicated server model? It was pretty successful for a little game called Starcraft.
Look, if it's just about DRM, then just say so. Don't pretend having private servers where you can set up your own LAN parties is a bad model for any other reason than that it takes away a tiny bit of control from Sony.
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Will you pay more? Most players will say no. There is cost in implementing two approaches to network gaming. It may look like a simple extraction of code but it's a lot more than that. You'll understand what I mean if you are more than a base application developer.
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Pay more for what? Dedicated servers? They had that figured out more than 10 years ago. How much more do you think it would cost to add dedicated servers to a game today? And yes, if people would pay $19.99 for some DLC that gives your character new hats, I'm pretty sure they'd pay for dedicated servers.
The reason they are not included is because Sony is so scared that there might be some kid in Slovenia playing a pirated version of their game. Not that the kid would actually ever pay
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And yes, if people would pay $19.99 for some DLC that gives your character new hats, I'm pretty sure they'd pay for dedicated servers.
That's a very big assumption but ok...
The reason they are not included is because Sony is so scared that there might be some kid in Slovenia playing a pirated version of their game
They have every right to protect what is theirs and in the process provide generally a better offering for most players. Most users don't care for dedicated servers anyway. At the end of the day you can choose to not buy Sony games. If you already don't buy Sony games then I don't know why you are up in arms.
terror? (Score:4, Insightful)
before deciding to spread their terror to PlayStation Network.
Terror?
These are games, people. Yeah, they are jerks and should be smacked around for it, but let's not lose our minds.
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So what you're saying is, it's time for us to beat each other's heads in with rocks and feast on the goo inside?
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So what you're saying is, it's time for us to beat each other's heads in with rocks and feast on the goo inside?
Nothing so uncivilized. Rather, it's time for us to catch the scoundrels responsible, try them in a neutral court of law before a jury of their peers, and then publicly feed them feet-first into woodchippers.... slowly. As a lesson for the others. You know, like civilized folk.
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Well, when they escalated it to calling in bomb-threats against an aircraft last night, I think "terror" suddenly became a valid terminology.
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I predict it's going to be pretty terrifying for the twats participating in this DDOS when the authorities come knocking on the door. Some time at the local police station with the threat of serious consequences hanging over their heads should do them some good.
Life Lesson #1: You aren't anonymous on the internet in the face of a determined investigation.
Life Lesson #2: Raging against the world and challenging the FBI isn't a good idea.
What was and wasn't working... (Score:3)
As somebody who spent most of the day yesterday on the sofa with his PS3 and PS4...
- First of all, this wasn't just the US. Europe was affected as well.
- Disc-based games were working fine all day on both consoles. I've seen FUD above suggesting that always-online connections may be required for these. They aren't. Certainly, MS wanted to do that until the 2013 E3 (and I'll bet Sony gave it a lot of thought as well), but it never actually happened. Single-player modes of disc-based games were fine all day.
- Providing the console you were using was set as one of your primary consoles, then downloaded games (including PS+ games) were also fine all day.
- Basic login was down at first but came back after a couple of hours. Barring a couple of glitchy periods, it was mostly up through the rest of the day. Cloud save functions were working whenever basic login was up.
- Online matchmaking also came online a few times during the afternoon, though never really for long enough for a proper multiplayer session.
- The PS Store and Account Management features were off until quite late last night, When basic login was up, trying to access these gave a "this service is currently undergoing maintenance" error message, implying Sony had taken them down deliberately as part of the effort to keep basic login and matchmaking working. With Account Management offline, the option to re-download content you'd already purchased was also offline.
As of this morning, everything seems to be fine again. What was interesting was how the timing (on a Sunday, and a Sunday followed by a public holiday in several parts of the world) affected both the Sony response (which in communications terms was extremely slow) and the media-coverage (which was virtually non-existent for most of yesterday).
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I played a little P.T., Last of Us and Pinball Arcade to pass the time but never could get into the PSN Store or to XIV's login screen.
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Providing the console you were using was set as one of your primary consoles, then downloaded games (including PS+ games) were also fine all day.
Not completely. I tried to play a PS+ game that I haven't played in a couple of months. It turns out is was "expired" and it needed to be reactivated by talking to PSN. The activation service was offline, so no dice. This was on a PS3.
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Griefing in EVE not caused by Goon Fleet?
I'm shocked. Like, genuinely shocked.
what I know of this (Score:1)
So this is why... (Score:2)
...I couldn't sign-in for most of yesterday :/
Slow, yes. Takedown, no. (Score:1)
Now, in my day, we got root in the core admin servers and we used it.
Seriously, amateurs.