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Text Editor Created In Minecraft 114

jones_supa writes: The redstone mechanics in Minecraft can be pushed surprisingly far to create rather advanced digital circuits. Thanks to a user nicknamed Koala_Steamed, there now exists a text editor inside the game (YouTube demonstration). It comes with a 5 x 10 character matrix in which each character uses a starburst (16-segment) display. There are 7.357 x 10^92 different combinations the screen can show, all of which can be controlled from a single line. The scale of the workings used to make this piece of logic, using only redstone, is dauntingly huge.
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  • by nimbius ( 983462 ) on Thursday January 08, 2015 @10:02AM (#48764115) Homepage
    I know it may not be the most efficient thing in the world, but its entirely possibly to write your term papers in Minecraft over the span of about 6 months to a year if you stick to harvesting wool to create a "paper" substrate and creating coal blocks for pixels. Presuming you make it long enough to avoid any creepers, the paper can be read from an enormous glass skybridge you construct over the next 2 weeks, and should only take 4 weeks to completely read, give or take a few days to a week if you fall from it a few times or if endermen start stealing text.
    • Enderman only steal a limited amount of block types. Coal, ores and paper are not amongst those.

      Or so I guess. ;)

    • The really important question is whether or not at the Planck scale one finds that we are all one really, really big version of Minecraft, being played by beings that look strangely like turtles. All the way down.

      Another really important question is just how much of the world's creative potential is devoted to creating meta-inventions on top of rulesets intended for something else entirely rather than, say, bringing about world peace, curing cancer, feeding the hungry, or just plain moving out of your mom's basement. Not that I am entirely without sin in this regard myself, but it is a sad commentary on the state of the world (virtual or not) that we appear to live in when solving vast and pointless artificial problems in a virtual reality is more appealing than tackling the real and serious problems that surround us.

      rgb

      • by marklark ( 39287 )

        Another really important question is just how much of the world's creative potential is devoted to creating meta-inventions on top of rulesets intended for something else entirely rather than, say, bringing about world peace, curing cancer, feeding the hungry, or just plain moving out of your mom's basement.

        rgb

        The same could be said about JavaScript... ;^)

      • Another really important question is just how much of the world's creative potential is devoted to creating meta-inventions on top of rulesets intended for something else entirely

        Or post on Slashdot. Umm... So let's go about changing this right now. To solve the world's problems, we need to find their roots.

        rather than, say, bringing about world peace

        So long as people speak different languages, worship the creator in different ways, and faraway governments attempt to impose laws that end up creating an environment hostile to a particular group's way of life, there will always be war. How should that be changed?

        curing cancer

        You can reduce the incidence of Cancer by forbidding penetrative sexual contact during Libra, but I don't see how people will accept that. Besides, two-thirds of malignant tumors are unavoidable [slashdot.org]. How should that be changed?

        feeding the hungry

        Long-term food insecurity is a distribution problem [cnbc.com], especially when countries use hunger as a weapon against their own people. How should that be changed?

        or just plain moving out of your mom's basement.

        Why is living with parents considered shameful, especially in an era of telecommuting?

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by rgbatduke ( 1231380 )

          Thank you for so effectively demonstrating the existential ennui that paralyzes our entire civilization. Of course if you look carefully at your replies and actually think for a moment, the answers to each and every one are obvious and there are a rather large number of talented individuals who demonstrate this every day by their actions.

          The tragedy is the many competent persons who would rather build giant virtual word processors or make armor to sell in WoW than to take up arms against the world's sea of

          • honestly, building Minecraft engines is as close to doing nothing as it is possible to do and still breathe.

            Oh get over yourself. None of it really matters at all anyway. Human interest stuff will generally last a generation or two at most. Eventually the universe will suffer heat death or some other fate resulting in nothing anyone does ever making a difference in a permenant way.

            PS I've no idea what your hobbies are, but I suspect they suck.

            • Oh, don't worry. This is /. I'm a nerd/geek. I've spent far, far too many hours over the last two weeks playing the Android Icewind Dale remix. And I did my time with the e-cocaine known as minecraft, only quitting when I had built towers from the bottom of the world to its top and realized suddenly that I was bored to tears. Even now I can't get myself motivated to revisit it.

              That's how I know that it is doing nothing but skipping sleep.

              As for the vanity of the world and the pit of existential despair

          • by tepples ( 727027 )

            How should that be changed?

            Of course if you look carefully at your replies and actually think for a moment, the answers to each and every one are obvious

            They happen not to be obvious to me. If this makes me incompetent, please help me become more competent.

            The tragedy is the many competent persons who would rather [make or use toys] than to take up arms against the world's sea of trouble and, by opposing, end them.

            I must be missing something fundamental. Could you describe these "arms" to me in this context?

      • by BForrester ( 946915 ) on Thursday January 08, 2015 @12:30PM (#48765373)

        I agree entirely with the sentiment, but there is a massive psychological difference between virtual problems and real ones.

        With virtual problems, the rules are known and consistent, and the only potential barrier to success is the limitations of the user's abilities. If the user can accurately assess their own skill level, they can know if the problem is solvable, and possibly the time frame in which this can be done.

        Big, real problems are awash in variables far beyond the control of any one person. They may not be solvable given current restraints. Many of the "best" governments in the world, led by the most educated and intelligent people, and backed with enormous budgets are undercut by the chaos of global economics, damaged by misinformation and false intelligence, aggravated by the stupidity of other actors, and in turn conduct their own activities that damage the prospects of peace, or health and security for all.

        I might commit my life to a cure for cancer or world peace, and thus squander the next 60 years away because the world, as a majority, is not ready for those things. The Sudoku puzzle, on the other hand, I can solve before I finish breakfast.

        • And the Sudoku puzzle is good for your brain, and hence isn't all that bad for society to the extent that people with healthy logical brains are better than the alternative. Probably true of minecraft as well -- I certainly enjoyed it for a month or three, just as I enjoyed second life more briefly, World of Warcraft in its day, and am currently enjoying the rebirth of Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale on my tablet. But at some point all of these things -- even Sudoku -- become a form of e-crack, a means of

      • Such things are not useful, but using our brain to do complex things is a source of pleasure for human beings, and arguably what pushed us to the current level of our civilization.
      • Devoted kids WILL sooner or later cure cancer. With redstone. In minecraft.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by causality ( 777677 )

        The really important question is whether or not at the Planck scale one finds that we are all one really, really big version of Minecraft, being played by beings that look strangely like turtles. All the way down.

        Another really important question is just how much of the world's creative potential is devoted to creating meta-inventions on top of rulesets intended for something else entirely rather than, say, bringing about world peace, curing cancer, feeding the hungry, or just plain moving out of your mom's basement. Not that I am entirely without sin in this regard myself, but it is a sad commentary on the state of the world (virtual or not) that we appear to live in when solving vast and pointless artificial problems in a virtual reality is more appealing than tackling the real and serious problems that surround us.

        rgb

        The problem with things like feeding the hungry is all of the political opposition you would run into. Since the Industrial Revolution of the late 1800s we've had the capability of feeding, clothing, sheltering, and educating the entire world's population several times over. What we don't have is the political will to do it. Too many ruling elite would have to give up power for it to actually happen. That's the real obstacle.

        Most armed conflict is also to the benefit of this ruling elite, who use such p

        • Amen. Line by line, actually. Especially your summary sentence. Although I'd take issue with "become" -- it has always been that way. It is arguably "un-becoming" fucked up, but a glacial pace compared to our capabilities and opposed by the MIC sociopaths and organized crime, who are not necessarily disparate groups.

          rgb

      • by MrL0G1C ( 867445 )

        In a perfect world everybody would be fixing the world's problems you say!!

        • Everybody would at least be trying to be a net positive part of the solution instead of neutral to net negative. As I said elsewhere in the thread, the ideal is probably neither Charles Manson or Mother Teresa, it is probably more like the Boy Scouts -- do a good turn daily and try to be no worse than neutral otherwise. And don't be a butt. Very important that.

          rgb

      • Another really important question is just how much of the world's creative potential is devoted to creating meta-inventions on top of rulesets intended for something else entirely rather than, say, bringing about world peace, curing cancer, feeding the hungry, or just plain moving out of your mom's basement. Not that I am entirely without sin in this regard myself, but it is a sad commentary on the state of the world (virtual or not) that we appear to live in when solving vast and pointless artificial problems in a virtual reality is more appealing than tackling the real and serious problems that surround us.

        Personally, I find that energy devoted to task is nothing like units expended i.e. not at all a zero-sum game. For myself, I can spend a long time working on tough math problems, and indeed feel very exhausted, but then when I turn to something else, like say cleaning up the kitchen, I do very well, in fact I do a better job then I would if I had not been working hard at something else for a while. Also, developing a tolerance to working on something tough translates well into doing (possibly more important

      • Creative potential? It would be intellectually trivial to build a 6502 or Z80 in Minecraft - a simple matter of translating logic to redstone. Doing so would be an enormous amount of work akin to creating such a processor out of discrete transistors, but the creativity involved would be minimal and mostly involved with problems like how to allow circuits to cross paths.
      • oblig xkcd

        http://xkcd.com/505/ [xkcd.com]

    • I thought almost all these tricks in Minecraft were done using editor mode, not game mode. Thus no creepers to worry about, no mining, etc.

  • by NotInHere ( 3654617 ) on Thursday January 08, 2015 @10:10AM (#48764171)

    does it support vi or emacs commands?

  • Seeing an 8-bit binary executing in simulated 3D brings to mind the experience of being jacked into William Gibson's idea of cyberspace.

    Forget the iPhone 6, I have an Ono-Sendai Cyberspace 7.

  • ...use your powers for GOOD.

  • by Marginal Coward ( 3557951 ) on Thursday January 08, 2015 @10:19AM (#48764233)

    Next thing you know, Minecraft will be self-hosting. Lord help us, the singularity [wikipedia.org] awakes!

    • by wonkey_monkey ( 2592601 ) on Thursday January 08, 2015 @10:32AM (#48764353) Homepage

      It's getting there [youtube.com].

      • by Mal-2 ( 675116 )

        And to think I had people oohing and aahing because I installed a functioning scoreboard in someone's Spleef arena, or a binary counter that would tell you how many people had entered and left a given space (though it could be fooled if people pushed through together), or a combination lock for a secured area (with user-configurable combinations). I understand redstone, even in its more recent, more analog-like form. Generating, detecting, and sorting pulses is not hard. Logic gates are not hard. Latches an

  • by sjbe ( 173966 ) on Thursday January 08, 2015 @12:31PM (#48765379)

    With apologies to Dr. Ian Malcolm (Jeff Goldblum) this is a perfect example of people being "...so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should. [imdb.com]"

    I'm all for geeky, harmless, just-because-I-can projects for entertainment but... wow.

  • I've always found stuff like this interesting but I never thought of actually playing Minecraft until my kid did and now I'm a bit addicted to adventure mode. He's building things like cruise ships and I'm playing the actual game getting creeped out by the zombies and darkness.
    • He's building things like cruise ships and I'm playing the actual game getting creeped out by the zombies and darkness.

      Building cruise ships in MC is disappointing because you can't sail them. I have encountered one site that has a space simulation where you build ships and fly them around, but it's fairly horrible. MC is actually a horribly pathetic engine. There's lots of clones which are technically superior, but none of them are more fun for lack of polish. Sadly, the only things anything like it which are dramatically better are space sims. The best one is probably space engineers, I was playing another one too but I c

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Has anyone been following this kind of thing? I keep my eye on it. I saw the first cpu which the author said he used "the elements of computing systems" http://www.nand2tetris.org/ which I quickly bought and learned a lot more than I did in computer organization 1 at college.

    Then I saw people working on ram and displays...

    Now this whole text editor.

    From what little I know, most hardware construction is done using vhdl and verilog. Why isn't there a fully 3d graphical builder for serious design? I think

    • by ndykman ( 659315 )

      Because they have their own tools for layout, which, for them, is pretty much placing rectangles in a bigger rectangle. They use VHDL and Verilog because they work way better than a graphical layout for anything but a trivial digital circuit.

  • How long before EMACS is running on Minecraft Redstone?

  • So my kid can do homework on his xbox now?

  • Can i strap my smartphone to my wrist, and, have the LCD readout in minecraft show the time?

  • now someone should implement Minecraft in Minecraft :)
  • ...is it open source?

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