Animated Simulation Lets You Watch the Titanic Sink In Real Time (huffingtonpost.com) 129
An anonymous reader writes: You can watch the Titanic sink in real time thanks to an animated simulation created with Unreal Engine 4 to promote the upcoming game "Titanic: Honor and Glory." The HuffingtonPost writes, "This simulation includes the iceberg strike, the ship coasting to a halt in the North Atlantic about 20 minutes later, lifeboats lowered into the water and even scenes of flooding in the interior corridors." The animation will even give you a play-by-play of what was happening aboard the ship at specific times. What some may find especially eerie about the simulation is the lack of people. Some 1,500 people died when the Titanic sunk, but the simulation shows no people. You can watch the video here.
Well (Score:5, Funny)
This seems a little Unreal to me.
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You forgot the shades and the "YEEEEAAAAAH"
I prefer it with people... (Score:5, Funny)
At least I can watch Leonardo DiCaprio's character die. That has to count for something.
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Have to admit the Jack/Rose plot kinda ruined the movie in my opinion. But I think James Cameron & his crew did a pretty good job with the SFX on that one. Appeared pretty realistic especially on the big screen. Certainly better visuals than A Night to Remember, although that was a better movie
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Re:I prefer it with people... (Score:4, Insightful)
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Actually, Cameron has admitted now that he knows more about the Titanic (as part of the 100th anniversary a few years ago) he seriously screwed up the sinking effects. Of course, given the movie was filmed nearly
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Yes a nerd version would have been jack and his hand. And it would have the nerd satisfying appeal that they'd both die at the end.
Yeah, but a version filled with nerds probably would've fixed the ship and been on their way within an hour. Or at least had everyone think, this ship is slowly sinking and there aren't enough lifeboats, maybe I'd better go find something that floats.
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The nerds would have gotten the captain to slow down and avoid the collision in the first place.
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Only if the captain was also a nerd (in which case nobody would have had to try to convince the captain to slow down in the first place). Remember the nerd who tried to tell NASA to slow down but wasn't listened to, resulting in the Challenger disaster. The hubris of non-nerds who command nerds but don't feel the need to listen to those nerds is immense, and often with tragic consequences.
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No, that would have no drama.
A propper nerd version would have the protagonist fail to convince the captain to slow down.
However when the iceberg is spotted and the captain orders the ship to attempt to evade the nerdy protagonist would know that was a mistake, and would either contramand the captain's order or bypass the steering and take the Titanic directly into the iceberg. This decision would have been foreshadowed in the first act with a technical description of the titanic's watertight chambers. whic
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The James Cameron version is better for two reasons: Kate's left one and Kate's right one.
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Their proximity to her ears.
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True; I can't believe I'm "defending" him, but his acting has gotten way better over the years.
* Aviator [imdb.com]
* Blood Diamond [imdb.com]
* Django Unchained [imdb.com]
* The Great Gatsby [imdb.com]
* Inception [imdb.com]
* What's Eating Gilbert Grape [imdb.com]
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Don't forget the Quaalude segment in The Wolf of Wall Street.
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Cameron is a master of action, but he can't write dialogue worth shit.
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Honor and glory? (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm sorry, but there was little of either in that disaster. It sounds like they're trying to make it out like some kind of heroic war story instead of the unmitigated disaster that it was. The only upside is that many of the people who were killed were among the wealthiest elite of the time, and that it lead to improved safety regulations as a result of who died. I don't understand why they keep trying to put some kind of heroic spin on something that was a combination of gross incompetence and insufficient safety precautions.
It's well known that corners were cut when building the titanic - particularly with the rivets which metallurgical analysis confirmed were cheaply made and weak due to large amounts of iron slag in the composition of the metal. The crew was operating at night in a stretch of water that was well known to contain icebergs and had claimed a recorded 20 ships already. Essentially they were operating blind. Lookouts failed to spot it, either due to environmental conditions, pure laziness, or overconfidence in the ship design - we may never really know.
Re:Honor and glory? (Score:5, Insightful)
It sounds like they're trying to make it out like some kind of heroic war story instead of the unmitigated disaster that it was.
We romanticize the past, of course, because the present is so often unremarkable, but we have such high hopes for the future.
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The future used to be better.
Then we got here, and found out that human nature hasn't changed over this period, not in the slightest.
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Plus, the ship was not compartmentalized. I served on an aircraft carrier, and a hole in one part of the ship would not allow water to breach the entire ship.
Nowadays, we have double hulls and stuff.
The story of the Titanic is a tale of reactive safety measures implemented only after much learning, much like the tales that gave us mandatory fire exits, extinguishers, sprinklers, smoke detectors, and capacity limits in buildings.
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Yes, the ship was struck a glancing blow that gashed the side of the hull, flooding several compartments at once. It was like that moment at Fukushima when the local fire department tried to connect one of its pumper trucks to the reactor coolant circulation as instructed, only to find that they were issued the wrong connector to attack their hose.
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Well there's their problem, instead of attacking the hoses with fire axes, they should have hooked them up. Training has really gone down hill...
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So has autocorrect.
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Titanic most certainly was compartmentalized but the walls only went somewhat above the water line. great for holes under or near waterline that weren't wider than four compartments, that 300 foot hole kind of pooped their party though. they should have hit that iceberg head on instead of turning to port.
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They should have been compartmentalized. Per your own post, 50% compartmentalization is equal to zero compartmentalization.
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Not in most cases of ships getting a hole. Just because they were silly and sideswiped an iceberg you have to get all bitchy about it...
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The Titantic was compartmentalized. It could survive any four of them being breached (out of sixteen). Five were breached when she struck the iceberg, so the ship filled with water and sank. Designs are better now, but in any design if you breach enough of the compartments the ship is going to sink.
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It was compartmentalised, and it was punctured in more than one place.
I hope you weren't operating anything more complicated than a mop.
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Because your remarks insult me and my mates, I will now sing to you, the "Navy Him:"
"Him, him, fuck him."
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They needed a minimum number of unfooded compartments to maintain buoyancy. The puncture was already pushing that limit, so flooding enough aft compartments to stabilize the ship would have sunk it.
Though, acting quickly they might have kept the ship level and sinking slowly rather than letting it break up and sink fast, which if it delayed the inevitable for 2 more hours would have meant the Carpathia's arrival would have given them access to more lifeboats and a ship to evacuate to. This is by the way how
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It sounds like they're trying to make it out like some kind of heroic war story instead of the unmitigated disaster that it was.
You know, a war game.
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Of course I could be wrong and it could still be a completely inappropriate game. Time will tell.
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I hope you're right. This would work a whole lot better as a cautionary tale.
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>It's well known that corners were cut when building the titanic - particularly with the rivets which metallurgical analysis confirmed were cheaply made and weak due to large amounts of iron slag in the composition of the metal. The crew was operating at night in a stretch of water that was well known to contain icebergs and had claimed a recorded 20 ships already. Essentially they were operating blind. Lookouts failed to spot it, either due to environmental conditions, pure laziness, or overconfidence in the ship design - we may never really know.
The Titanic's sister ship, the Olympic differed in detail, but was essentially a clone. The Olympic served on the North Atlantic run for two decades and was only retired in 1935. She gained the nickname "Old Reliable". - Picture of the two together [wikipedia.org]
This suggests that whatever people now say about the design, construction, or the metallurgy of the iron, by the standards of the time, the fundamental design of Titanic was sound and the construction was perfectly fine. She was sunk by a crap-load of bad luck
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Indeed. I'm not a naval historian but I believe Titanic sunk because of multiple factors, not just one or two.
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"The only upside is that many of the people who were killed were among the wealthiest elite of the time, and that it lead to improved safety regulations as a result of who died."
So you're one of those worthies who believes that all gains are ill-gotten. Some of those wealthy elite might have gone on to invent and discover things that would have increased the societal wealth available for your welfare payments.
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If you RTFF (Read the F'ing FAQ), you'll learn the Honour and Glory was the name of the clock from the Grand Staircase.
Question - Why not use “Honour”, the British spelling, instead of “Honor”?
Answer - While we are aware that Titanic was a British Ship and the “Honour and Glory” name for the clock from the Grand Staircase was spelled as such, we had our reasons for using a different spelling. There’s already something Titanic-related called “Titanic - Honour a
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The heroes (in the modern sense) of the story are the crew of the Carpathia, https://www.waterlinkconnect.com/Account/AccountConfirmation?userName=lgerberlamotte%2bdealertest2%40gmail.com&token=1dGmnCQA7dLS30JNGyfKQw2 [waterlinkconnect.com]
Who received the Titanic's distress call via radio and steamed at er than ratted full speed through those same dangerous waters in a not supposedly unsinkable ship to rescue the passengers of the sinking Titanic. Thanks to them the lack of lifeboats was the primary cause of death, rather t
Re:Honor and glory? (Score:5, Insightful)
The only upside is that many of the people who were killed were among the wealthiest elite of the time
Why the fuck is that an upside?
There is an argument to be made that if the wealthy had not died safety regulations would not have been enacted and enhanced. If it's only "those" people that died it's easy to overlook.
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Pretty sure that such an argument would be outweighed by the sheer number of dead (wealthy or not), combined with the fact that the newest, greatest, and biggest ship that mankind had built up to that point in time had just sank.
Fun factoid: only a near-literal couple of first-class children drowned, and the only first-class women who died had stayed behind voluntarily (refused to leave husbands, one died because she lost track of a kid, etc). Most of the first-class men died out of chivalry (they knew the
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Pretty sure that such an argument would be outweighed by the sheer number of dead (wealthy or not), combined with the fact that the newest, greatest, and biggest ship that mankind had built up to that point in time had just sank.
If you really believe such a thing, you lack any knowledge in the history humans and civilizations. Ignorance is at least curable, assuming you are not so mentally deranged as to believe your ignorance is superior to knowledge. Sadly that position has become the most prevalent, but perhaps you are an exception to the norm.
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So in other words you have no rebuttal at all but felt affronted enough to howl in response. Got it.
Here, let me help you out a bit:
The motivation as to why it was built (to make $$$$$$ off the emigrant trade), and the very money-grubbing publicity surrounding that was impossible to miss. Now, in order to attract those dollars (and basically operate as a bulk people-mover), the steerage accommodations were actually far better than anything (steerage-wise) up to that time. The ship and its sisters were hyped
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Let me help _YOU_ out, and show you the level of ignorance you are displaying. How workers died building railroads? How many died building the Pyramids? How many peasants died to feed the nobles? How many died building sky scrapers? How many impoverished people died mining coal? How many poor people died as soldiers on any side of a war? The overwhelming majority of those deaths were preventable if people were concerned with worker safety over money for some Lordlings and their brethren.
You are simpl
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You're arguing from a populist (and certainly emotional) standpoint that has no basis in fact. You even drag out old tropes which have little-to-no basis in fact just to eke out something that someday may resemble a point: You see, railroads, skyscrapers, and the Pyramids were built by hired labor, not slaves. Same with mining coal. Nobody made them do it at gunpoint (or spear-point, or sword-point, etc). Peasants were of course a bit more constrained, but (outside of the occasional accident that had bugger
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Ignorance is at least curable, assuming you are not so mentally deranged as to believe your ignorance is superior to knowledge.
God, I know one person that applies to...
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Did you really just cut a sentence in half and quoted the first part to ask a question about the second?
Holy dear mary mother of jeebus allmighty spaguetti unicorn! You must truly be so dumb they're using you as model for the perfect silicon sphere to be used as new kilogram definition.
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Wars were the #1 non natural cause of death in the 20th century. This accident is nothing in comparison
Indeed. We shouldn't care about driving safely, terrorism or earthquakes, the number of yearly deaths being so low in comparison.
Re:Far more people died in WW I and II (Score:5, Insightful)
In case you missed it, we've paid a bit of attention to WW2 as well over the years. Also, funny you mention the atomic bombs, since those were relatively minor killers compared to firebombings and other deaths in that war from far more mundane sources. Now why would you specifically mention those?
It's because, like it or not, you've just aptly demonstrated that the circumstances surrounding deaths are as important or even more important than the numbers. It's not logical, but damned if humans have ever been logical. I'd presume that some of the reaction to Titanic was the fact that this ship represented one of the biggest, most visible technological achievement of humankind, so to have her sink on her maiden voyage was a bit of a shock to the psyche of the average citizen.
But really, more to the point, Titanic is a compelling story, in the same vein of classic Shakespearean tragedies. Man's hubris challenges God/nature ("God himself could not sink this ship"), and after a perfect storm of events and mistakes, man is proven to be quite fallible, with tragic consequences for the innocent souls on board. There are many individual stories as well. The stoic, grim professionalism that saw the ship's orchestra continue to play when their own doom was at hand. The gentleman and his manservant who adorned their tuxedos, declaring that they would "meet their end as gentleman." The woman who refused to be evacuated without her husband, and insisted her maid take her own place in the lifeboat.
How could these stories not capture the hearts of people?
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Why are they still spending money on this. My second was "Wow, the thousands of man hours" of mechanical or electrical engineering, physics, archaeology, graphic design, and several other -ologies that went into producing this. My third thought was how much expertise went into this and how little of it will be passed,due to the amazing level of detail, along to future projects. My fourth though was I should of logged in instead of ACing this, my last AC was +5 informative.
Don't worry, this one won't.
The movie was wrong about it breaking in half? (Score:2)
The movie suggested that the "Titanic" wasn't strong enough to support half its weight, levered and elevated, unsupported in the air. In the movie, the ship snapped in two (without the pieces fully separating).
This would have happened somewhere around 2:40 in the simulation video.
I guess this is just another illustration that Titanic buffs disagree with each other.
This professor's simulation [nydailynews.com] indicates it did break--but not the way Cameron's movie showed!
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It does actually happen in the simulation video, at about 2:40. (2.39:27 to be exact).
The Titanic was another shining example (Score:2, Insightful)
Of what happens when you leave safety up to the private sector.
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It lost the data feed and the app displayed the icebergs at the default coordinates - a farm in Kansas.
The devs wanted to put an error message about the data being unreliable but marketing said it would confuse the users and UX said it would spoil the flat look.
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Of what happens when you leave safety up to the private sector.
Funny thing - this ship was fully compliant with government regulations at the time, including the specific rule governing the number of lifeboats it was required to carry.
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Ayup. And the number was so small not because of any perfidy on the part of the government or influence from the private sector either.
Prior to the loss of Titanic it was presumed (not unreasonably based on experience) that if a ship was lost near the coast, it only n
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So what? They violated common sense. Because safety was too expensive.
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I suppose then Stalin's incarcerations, that resulted in millions of deaths in the labor camps, are what happens when you leave safety up to government? Or is that only convenient when you want to use it to try to demonstrate a point that you feel is important?
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I don't think it counts as a safety breach if you kill them on purpose.
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This Titanic was lucky (Score:2)
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Building a better future for VR (Score:5, Insightful)
And from there the possibilities are endless - The moon landing? JFK's assassination (or whoever's version of it) - Sure there'll be tons of fictional worlds and experiences, but a big part of it will be recreating historical experiences for both entertainment and education.
The old "simulation" games like Rome: Total war or even Assassins creed (and Civ, of course) will have a whole new level of immersion to work with. Gonna be exciting.
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It's 2016, where's my holodeck?!
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It's 2016, where's my holodeck?!
right here [engadget.com]
Real time = rendering on the spot (Score:2)
This is a prerendered film. Might have taken a month to render it, for all we know.
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Also, allow the user to drive the ship and try different speeds and angles crashing into the iceberg.
The most likely way it happened historically can remain as preset default.
Missing one thing (Score:2)
Allow one to place politicians where one chooses and this could be a big seller.
Horrible etiquette (Score:1)
You can watch the Titanic sink...
Goddammit! Why the hell wasn't there a warning that a spoiler was in the first sentence!?!?
RMS Olympic (Score:2)
On 9 October 1912 White Star withdrew Olympic from service and returned her to her builders at Belfast to be refitted to incorporate lessons learned from the Titanic disaster 6 months prior, and improve safety. The number of lifeboats carried by Olympic was increased from twenty to sixty four and extra davits were installed along the boat deck to accommodate them. Also, an inner watertight skin was constructed in the boiler and engine rooms, to create a double hull. Five of the watertight bulkheads were extended up to B-Deck, extending to the entire height of the hull. This corrected a flaw in the original design, in which the bulkheads only rose up as far as E or D-Deck, a short distance above the waterline. This flaw had been exposed during Titanic's sinking, where water spilled over the top of the bulkheads as the ship sank and flooded subsequent compartments. In addition, an extra bulkhead was added to subdivide the electrical dynamo room, bringing the total number of watertight compartments to seventeen. Improvements were also made to the ship's pumping apparatus. These modifications meant that Olympic could survive a collision similar to that of Titanic, in that her first six compartments could be breached and the ship could remain afloat.
At the same time, Olympic's B-Deck underwent a refit, which included extra cabins (the parlour suites which proved popular on the Titanic were added to the Olympic), more cabins were fitted with private bathing facilities, and a Cafe Parisian (another addition that had proved popular on the Titanic) was added, offering another dining option to first class passengers. With these changes, Olympic's gross tonnage rose to 46,359 tons, 31 tons more than Titanic's.
RMS Olympic [wikipedia.org]
Problems with radio communication --- obsolete technologies, monopoly power, the need for regulation --- all became clear after the loss of Titanic. Ir is a fascinating story and one the geek should know better.
Radio and the Titanic [environmentalhistory.org]
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To be fair, the Olympic never scraped an iceberg.
It did however drop a propellor blade and accidentally ram head-on into a British warship (HMS Hawke, I think?), though neither incident really tested the theory much.
History lessons in Virtual Reality. (Score:2)
They might be onto something.
Granted, it would be rather limited, but imagine virtually witnessing Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, or crossing the Delaware River with George Washington.
Hmmmm (Score:5, Interesting)
Grammar (Score:2)
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Some say it's still sinking to this day. All we know . . . it's called THE STIG!
TL;SA (Score:2)
Very Interesting (Score:2)
Many of the details are fascinating .. but I'm not sure they got it all quite right. Nice details about the lifeboats, etc.
But watch how the stern levels out after it breaks away from the bow. I read many reports that the stern went vertical, not horizontal.
Nice (Score:1)
But the "camera" direction was horrible. The close ups of the life boats were agonizing.
Not Accurate (Score:1)