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Discord Bans Servers That Promote Nazi Ideology (theverge.com) 456

A popular video game chat service with over 25 million users announced today that it had shut down "a number of accounts" following violence instigated by white supremacists over the weekend. Discord, the service "which lets users chat with voice and text, was being used by proponents of Nazi ideology both before and after the attacks in Charlottesville, Virginia," reports The Verge. "We will continue to take action against Nazi ideology, and all forms of hate," the company said in a tweet. From the report: Discord declined to state how many servers had been affected, but said it included a mix of old accounts and accounts that were created over the weekend. Among the affected servers was one used by AltRight.com, a white nationalist news site. The site's homepage includes a prominent link to a Discord chat which is now broken. The company said it does not read private messages exchanged on its servers. Members of those groups reported messages in the chats for violating Discord's terms of service, the company said, and it took action. "When hatred like this violates our community standards we act swiftly to take servers down and ban individual users," the company said in a statement. "The public server linked to AltRight.com that violated those terms was shut down along with several other public groups and accounts fostering bad actors on Discord. We will continue to be aggressive to ensure that Discord exists for the community we set out to support -- gamers."
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Discord Bans Servers That Promote Nazi Ideology

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  • by A10Mechanic ( 1056868 ) on Monday August 14, 2017 @06:24PM (#55012911)
    They should have checked with some three-letter agencies first. They might have appreciated leaving them up a few days.
  • by nimbius ( 983462 ) on Monday August 14, 2017 @06:33PM (#55012985) Homepage
    White nationalists: we have a clear message of nationalism and family unity.
    Internet: nobody cared 70 years ago, and you're about to find out no one cares now.
  • I'm no fan of these idiots, but any time we start stifling free expression I think we're on dangerous ground. I know Discord is a private company and it's their right to do it. However, I think there's value in letting it go. Let these fools demonstrate what fools they are. At least everyone will know who they are and what they're all about. Censoring them doesn't change their mind it just forces them underground.
    • More important than doing the right thing, which is to ignore them.

      What's wrong with the world today, in a nutshell.

    • by naubol ( 566278 )

      Does this argument apply to ISIS? Is there no cultural group so terrible that we can't all agree it's not bad for a private company to refuse service to? Are you sure refusing them service doesn't hurt their ability to spread and reinforce their ideas?

      This isn't a college de-platforming some people. This is a company choosing not to host Nazis. I think we can still have a nice market of ideas without encouraging companies to platform Nazis.

    • by Okian Warrior ( 537106 ) on Monday August 14, 2017 @07:01PM (#55013187) Homepage Journal

      There's an elephant in the room that no one's talking about.

      "Unite the right" was not afforded the protection of law during their rally.

      Furthermore, law enforcement purposely directed the rally-goers into the antifa crowd, putting them in significant danger.

      The Antifa crowd was flinging urine, poop, and one ralley-goer suffered permanent eye damage [twitter.com] from having acid (!) thrown at him. The police were widely observed as doing nothing to stop the fighting.

      Think about this for a minute: The government withdrew the protection of law from a group based on their political ideals. The state governor and the mayor simply decided not to enforce the law for an ideology they don't like.

      This is a profoundly scary thought - that a political faction within the government can simply decide not to enforce the law in order to promote their narrative.

      I'm going to have to side with the ACLU on this one. Hate speech is protected speech, and UniteTheRight should have been allowed to peaceably assemble.

      • If only they'd managed to not have one of their "side" commit murder on video they might have been able to have managed to spin the event to their side. But they couldn't so as you would expect the spin goes with the message of the side who were on the receiving end of the murder. I admit I would expect the media to spin it against them anyway, but you can't really complain given what actually happened.

        I agree they have the right to their speech and if that involves waving Nazi flags that is their choice. I

      • Someone should tell the alt-righters that it's hard to argue you planned for a peaceful protest when many of your members wore helmets, carried riot shields, and had knives or clubs.
        • Antifa always counter protests with the utmost courtesy and leaves all their weapons at home when hunting for Nazi scalps.

        • by Mashiki ( 184564 )

          You know why that happened don't you? Because the police refused them protection. Remember what happened at berkeley? People on the right showed up and people got the shit kicked out of them, and maced. The second time there, known as the "battle for berkeley" was when the right showed up willing to defend themselves, and the little antifa and bamn shits learned what happens when you can't disappear into a crowd when you're assaulting people with bottles, bricks, sticks, steel bars, and bike locks.

          Now w

      • by ArylAkamov ( 4036877 ) on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @01:14AM (#55014939)

        Couldn't agree more. It was obvious if you were watching what went down live, it was perfectly peaceful until the police started herding the protesters into the violent counter-protesters.
        It was nice to see Seattle handle it well, even with the counter protesters calling for violence and chanting "HOW DO YOU SPELL NAZI? SPD!" (Seattle Police Department).
        Not to mention one group had the proper permits to be there, and fought in court to get them.
        It's only going to get more violent from here on out though. As you said, same shit happened in Berkley. It's only a matter of time until the protesters start showing up armed and waiting to be attacked, since the police won't do shit to protect them.

    • However, I think there's value in letting it go

      Oh? What's the value in letting hate speech pollute an online gaming chat system? This isn't general chat we're talking about.

  • https://tox.chat/ [tox.chat]
    Seem like a good option.

    https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/... [mumble.info]
    Likely safe from "we know better than you" trash-people.

    https://wire.com/en/ [wire.com]
    Maybe?

    https://about.riot.im/ [about.riot.im]
    Maybe?

    http://www.teamspeak.com/en/te... [teamspeak.com]
    Guess running your own server removes the issues.

    https://ring.cx/ [ring.cx]
    Seem like it could work.

    https://www.evolvehq.com/welco... [evolvehq.com]
    That's the stuff which came with AMD drivers before? Likely not safe for your freedoms.

    https://app.twitch.tv/ [twitch.tv]
    Curse was direct competitor to Discord before. But Twitch .. Any

  • If you believe in Net Neutrality, should this also include 1st Amendment protections for content that is legal but offensive?

    I'm not sure if we want to add ISPs to the (relatively small) list of entities where the First Amendment is explicitly applied. On the other hand, I'm afraid of the consequences if internet companies have unlimited rights (subject to other existing laws) to decide what content is and is not made available on the internet.

    (Do Telephone Companies have to right to refuse telephone servi

    • Net neutrality does indeed mean that if someone wants to create a NaziChat service the ISPs and backbone providers should not be able to shut them off.

  • It takes a few brain cells and an apt-get install to get an IRC server up and running.

    Or just use one of the dozens already out there.

  • A service named Discord is banning people who are causing discord? They need to rename their service.
  • Wouldn't trust a word from that SJW corporatist site.
  • by Jarwulf ( 530523 ) on Monday August 14, 2017 @07:53PM (#55013495)
    I don't approve of either the Scalise shooter's ideological faction or the Charlotteville driver's faction but I don't remember this guilt by association purge being enacted all the times leftwing violence was committed.

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