Microsoft Announces Xbox All Access (thurrott.com) 53
Microsoft today confirmed the rumors: Xbox All Access is a new subscription offering that ties a console to Xbox Live Gold and Xbox Game Pass for two years. From a report: "For no upfront cost and one low monthly price for 24 months, Xbox All Access gets you a new Xbox One S or Xbox One X, access to more than 100 great games through Xbox Game Pass, and online multiplayer with Xbox Live Gold," Microsoft's Bogdan Bilan explains. "That's more than 100 all-you-can-play games -- including highly-anticipated new Xbox One exclusives the day they're released, plus more games added all the time on the fastest, most reliable gaming network and an Xbox One console." As previously reported, Xbox All Access is available only in the United States and will cost $22 or $35 per month, depending on whether you choose an Xbox One S or Xbox One X console.
Do you own the Xbox? or rent? also EFT? (Score:4, Interesting)
Do you own the Xbox? or rent? also EFT?
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Re: Do you own the Xbox? or rent? also EFT? (Score:1)
Even if you rented you'd rent better hardware.
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You'll own the console at the end.
The subscriptions, if purchased in the largest block available for each, will cost $360 for two years.
- 12 month Xbox Live subscription: $60 x2 = $120
- 6 month Xbox Game Pass subscription: $60 x4 = $240
The Xbox One X costs $488 new right now. This works out to $848, versus an Xbox All Access subscription total of $840.
The Xbox One S costs $257 right now. This works out to $617, versus the All Access total of $528.
That's if you're paying all up front for everything, though,
Does it include the original Tetris? (Score:2, Funny)
Just too many FPS these days. Need something without violence these days.
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> Need something without violence these days.
I hear Flower [playstation.com] and Journey [playstation.com] is available on PS3 & PS4. =P
Seriously though aren't there any puzzle games [microsoft.com] on the Xbone? Have you played The Witness [microsoft.com] ?
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Re: Does it include the original Tetris? (Score:1)
I got tricky towers in a bundle. Check it out.
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It is definitely "Nintendo hard" or beyond, though.
AKA we couldn't think of a decent gameplay mechanic and are going to kill you instead.
Tetris Ultimate (Score:2)
Tetris Ultimate for Xbox One is only $10. Or by "original", did you mean the pre-infinite spin [ytmnd.com] version?
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360 will show them regardless of internet connection. Or at least mine did
Re: Learning from Telecom (Score:1)
Nes and snes classic are available here in Sweden.
Hardware-wise they are the same thing but you get longer cables and two cobtrollers with the snes/famicon plus fewer but more advanced games.
You can flash them to get the other environment and add more games or a USB stick.
Value for money seem to be snes if you want two controllers anyway.
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Compare the screen real estate for the game you have in the drive vs the ads.
the rent to own places will not like this but it w (Score:2)
the rent to own places will not like this but it works for cell phones
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But people want the newest shiniest phone that somehow cost $800.
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You still end up paying a lot more for a phone paying it over contract.
That probably depends on the carrier. For example, T-Mobile you end up paying the exact same amount for all phones except one, the iPhone 8, which costs a whopping 9 cents more than buying it outright.
Re:Is anyone steering the ship at microsoft? (Score:4, Interesting)
almost every game that can, offers online multiplayer with VAC protection through Steam without a subscription. this is just beating the corpse of Ayn Rand. In other words, consoles are circling the drain so fast its starting to look like the nineties blockbuster rental gaming scene.
As someone who plays both I think you're ignoring the selling points of consoles. They're simple, have an expected lifespan and thanks to significant price gouging by Intel & nvidia are a lot less expensive than PCs even accounting for Gold/PSN. Further given nvidia's recent announcement it looks like GPUs are staged to get even more expensive this generation.
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Those 'were' selling points. The console you're describing is going the way of the dinosaur.
They haven't so far
Now they require always on internet and monthly subscriptions. It's no longer simple or cheap.
Not the case, and in fact PCs are far worse for that - you can still buy discs of console games while that is now a rarity for PC (though day-1 patches render discs limited). I have never subscribed to any of the console networking myself.
Not when you can play games on your phone for pennies.
Phone games are the worst for predatory pricing where its easy to spend more than the cost of an AAA game, but the reality is that gamers PC or console aren't typically users of phone games.
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If you haven't subscribed to Gold or PSN you're not really deep enough into console gaming to compare the two experiences.
Or just maybe I play single player games? I did a lot of multiplayer gaming over the years and hit a point where I didn't want to bother with that anymore.
Consoles have been transitioning to mid-range black box PCs for a while now. Every new generation gets closer and that trend seems strong. The Xbox One is running Windows 10. I have all the current gen consoles and a high end gaming PC. I find modern consoles and a modern gaming PC to have very similar user experiences except the PC has better graphics, more flexibility, and more game options but at a higher price tag.
Not entirely sure how the architecture of a console is particularly relevant - its a question of what technical knowledge does the user need to know to use/buy the device (is it simple) and the performance / dollar. metric.
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In other words, consoles are circling the drain so fast its starting to look like the nineties blockbuster rental gaming scene.
I have switched TO console gaming. It is so much easier to not have to check compatibility or deal with installations or try to get controllers working for a PC. So far it has been a very pleasant change. The games I play have mostly come in for "free" through PS Plus.
Casual games work on the phone, of course, including World of Tanks Blitz. PC is great for single-player strategy of course, but I have actually been impressed by XCom-2 for the PS4.
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True, consoles are easier [pineight.com] for many, especially those happy with vanilla AAA games. But on consoles, it's a lot harder to install and use enthusiast-maintained mods that fix a game's user interface annoyances. And consoles tend to get smaller-budget games later than PC if at all.
I don't understand why you would rent when you can (Score:1)
Buy. You buy a game on the xbox and then you have to rent the right to play it. Stupid.
Fuck You Microsoft (Score:1)
I remember when I had an XBOX subscription.
Guess what Microsoft decided to when it got hacked? They entirely cut off access for almost 2 fucking months straight!
I will never willingly purchase another Microsoft product ever again.
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I remember when I had an XBOX subscription.
Guess what Microsoft decided to when it got hacked? They entirely cut off access for almost 2 fucking months straight!
I will never willingly purchase another Microsoft product ever again.
*CITATION NEEDED.
In 2011 the PSN (Playstation Network) was cracked and was down for 23 days. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
The longest outage for Xbox Live wasn't a complete outage, but rather a lack of capacity over the 2007-2008 holiday season which had connectivity issues for a period of 13 days.
But Xbox live has never been down for "2 fucking months straight!"
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I guess I should have clarified, I am talking about my subscription/account getting hacked.
Microsoft decided the punishing me was the resolution to the problem. I could not play any games that required xbox live except as a guest, so I decided that Microsoft does not give enough of a shit to care, so around that time I decide I will no longer be buying any more consoles and just stick to playing PC games. Larger library and less trouble over all.
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"Yes you very much should have clarified."
I know right? I was talking about my subscription but everyone assumed "entire MS network". I keep forgetting that folks like you are so stupid that you read one thing and think something else entirely. I have to S P E L L I T out so that it is ELI5 quality verbiage.
But you can be hostile as you want, Mr Butthurt!
What I really would prefer (Score:2)
is a $22 a month Xbox Video service.
Including NetFlix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, and some other streaming solutions, like CBS, TNT...
Re: I'll pay you with a Money All Access subscript (Score:1)
Lots of people pay for the entertainment/creativity rather than token.