Xbox Announces Mouse and Keyboard Support (ign.com) 66
Xbox's Phil Spencer announced today that mouse and keyboard support is coming to Xbox One. Crytek's Warface will be the first game to test the feature when it becomes available in October via the Xbox Insider Program. IGN reports: The idea behind mouse and keyboard support will be as a tool for developers, so they can choose how they want the control style integrated, if they want it integrated at all. "If you're a dominant FPS player right now on controller and you're worried that all the sudden you're gonna get swamped because a bunch of mouse and keyboard players are gonna get flooded into your game, that's not what we're doing," said Spencer. "We're putting choice into the hands of the developers about the games that they want to bring." We can expect to hear more about mouse and keyboard support during the XO18 fan event in Mexico City on November 10.
I hope this makes ports better on the PC (Score:4, Insightful)
I hope this makes ports better on the PC
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> I hope this makes ports better on the PC
They already have USB and HDMI ports. The last thing we need is another standard.
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Menus for ports should be better at least... I won't hold my breath for anything else though.
Death of the controller (Score:2)
Putting KBM on a console will effectively kill the controller market when it comes to competitive play, because there's no comparison as to which is faster/more accurate.
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Re: Death of the controller (Score:2)
Skill-based matchmaking makes this a complete non-issue. You get matched against people of roughly your own performance level, regardless on input method used.
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This would lead to all the "dominant FPS players" (whatever that means lol) to be matched with below average KB+M shitters.
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Skill-based matchmaking makes this a complete non-issue. You get matched against people of roughly your own performance level, regardless on input method used.
Exactly. A game might also automatically detect and sort controller from M+KB users too.
Controllers will die out for higher level competition, but they aren't now anyway. Controller-only competition is like the paralympics of gaming... they have skills despite their handicap, but no handicap would be better.
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Playstation 2 and Playstation 3 had keyboard and mouse support (I know, because I had keyboard and mouse on both), and I think Playstation 4 does too. Didn't seem to kill the controller market there. In fact, Logitech made a keyboard/controller combo for the PS2; I still have mine.
Go WASD Yourself (Score:4, Insightful)
If you're a dominant FPS player right now on controller and you're worried that all the sudden you're gonna get swamped because a bunch of mouse and keyboard players are gonna get flooded into your game, that's not what we're doing.
I'm more worried that this overpaid knob, or the overpaid knob quoting him, considers "all the sudden" to be cromulent.
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Grandparent is modded insightful, while any reply to the contrary is modded offtopic or troll. Way to moderate, Slashdot.
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You are free to use the correct form, but pointing out the inferiority of the newer, sloppier ones does not make you look particularly good, even to those who know where you're coming from.
Of course it does. I know because when others do the same thing they look good to me.
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Of course it does. I know because when others do the same thing they look good to me.
Then you shouldn't be using neologisms such as "cromulent," because grammarians have not accepted it, and look upon you with derision.
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Arbitrary idiom may be arbitrarily used [grammarly.com]
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It's not about Shakespeare winning. It's about the incorrect one losing.
Fast forward 500 years from now, and someone could point to this story as evidence that "all the sudden" was used in an attempt to justify it.
That doesn't mean it was used CORRECTLY.
Pointing to past usage isn't an argument. They had idiots in the past, too.
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It's an idiom - there is no "incorrect one."
Idiom: "a group of words established by usage as having a meaning not deducible from those of the individual words (e.g., rain cats and dogs, see the light )."
Please, provide your argument for why "all of a sudden" is correct but "all of the sudden" is not. I'm looking forward to reasoning as to how centuries old u
Quake III on the Dreamcast (Score:1)
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So true. I remember the glory days of Halo 2/3 on console and many of my more "bro-like" friends talking about how they could kick anyone's ass at the game (later it became whatever call of duty game was out) and that PC players were just elitist nerds. At the time, I played both console and PC (PC master race now) and tried to explain to them that playing with a controller SIGNIFICANTLY slowed down gameplay and was way inferior to KBM. They kept that opinion up for years until one day they actually saw
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
The PS3/PS4 have web browsers and Google Keep/Google Docs is just a click away.
Welcome to 1990 Xbox! (Score:2)
I know that you can use a keyboard on the PS3 / PS4 for text input. Not aware of any games that supported the Keyboard + Mouse combo though.
It will be interesting if see if any FPS games on the console will finally take off the aim-assists now that you have a proper, high fidelity aim? One of the reasons cross-platform FPSs was declined was the excuse that it was "unfair." i.e. PC gamers with Mouse+Keyboard would completely destroy / wreck all the console gamers using the gamepad.
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If I remember correctly, they experimented with cross-platform support at MS many moons ago. From what I recall, as a viability experiment they got some of the top console gamers they could find and then grabbed some average PC gamers to try it out. The results were BRUTAL. The guy they interviewed wouldn't give specifics but he said (not word for word) it was like watching 5 year old pee wee players (console gamers) go against an NFL pro bowl team (PC players). They tried a couple more times and did a
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They had keyboard and mouse support for a few Dreamcast FPS. I had it but almost never used it, it was completely pointless. Who wants to sit in front of their TV with a mouse and keyboard?
I guess people if use their console at a desk it sort of make sense, but even a shitty laptop can play Fortnite (from what I understand).
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Who wants to sit in front of their TV with a mouse and keyboard?
Someone who wants to play a console game with mouse/keyboard support? TV trays and lap-pads are a thing.
I guess people if use their console at a desk it sort of make sense
I've used a desktop setup with PlayStations since 2002. But I had Linux on the PS2/PS3 and have/do play MMO's/MMO-ish games on console. My PC running Linux/PS3/PS4 are all hooked up to the same display on a desk.
but even a shitty laptop can play Fortnite (from what I understand)
The Battle Royale mode for filthy casuals, yes. But the Save the World mode has higher requirements.
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Not aware of any games that supported the Keyboard + Mouse combo though.
I've mentioned several on Slashdot in other discussions, there are some, mostly MMO's and ports. Note that there might be more that I don't know about.
PS2: Deus Ex, Half-Life, Tribes, Dirge of Cerberus, Unreal Tournament 2003, Final Fantasy XI. EQOA the MMO has keyboard but not mouse support, you can play the game entirely with the keyboard if you want. Gran Turismo 4 has mouse support for menus.
PS3: Unreal Tournament, DCUO, FFXIV, Dust514,
PS4: Fortnite, DCUO, FFXIV, Onigiri, War Thunder. I highly reco
Maybe they can add keyboard support to win10 (Score:2)
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Agreed. I wonder what time frame this changed?
This is because MS no longer cares about UI "Accelerators" aka hotkeys or shortcuts. Notice how there is no longer an "underscore" in menu items unless you specifically hit the ALT key. Although I see Firefox (v45) shows the underscore at all times.
I'm surprised they haven't broken the TAB key to move between UI elements. LOL.
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Although I see Firefox (v45) shows the underscore at all times.
v45? Isn't 62 current?
The underscores show with v62 on Fedora as well.
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Yeah, Firefox v45 is old. Don't feel like upgrading and breaking all my extensions. =P
Good to know the later version still shows the underscores!
But doesn't Xbox run WINDOWS? (Score:1)
Microsoft has been telling everyone since 2013 that Xbox One runs REAL WINDOWS! It even runs Universal Windows Apps!
So why is it only now supporting mouse and keyboard, something that Windows has supported since 1985?
What is happening?? (Score:2)
Welcome to the 20th century, Microsoft (Score:2)
right (Score:2)
"...The idea behind mouse and keyboard support will be as a tool for developers..."
Bullshit.
Other game companies are starting to unify their player base between consoles and PCs, and the problem is that mouse+kb users consistently ANNIHILATE people stuck with gamepad vector controllers (that are actually astonishingly shitty when it comes to precision movement).
This bias meant that historically Sony, Nintendo, and MS *had* to wall off their console players from PC players even in online games, or face the c
Catching up to the PlayStation 3 (Score:2)
I used a USB keyboard to play Final Fantasy 11 on the PS3 years ago. I would alternate between using the controller for battle and the keyboard for other other tasks.
It also supports Bluetooth keyboards. I would assume that the PS4 does as well.
next announcement (Score:2)
xbox will now run windows 10!
and the circle will be round.