Sony Says PlayStation 4 Successor is Coming, But Doesn't Call it PS5 Yet (cnet.com) 68
Sony's president has confirmed that the company is working on the next PlayStation, but stopped short of calling it "PlayStation 5." From a report: "At this point, what I can say is it's necessary to have a next-generation hardware," Kenichiro Yoshida told the Financial Times on Monday. He didn't give a sense of the form the next PlayStation might take, but FT sources suggested that it wouldn't be a major departure from the PS4 and that its fundamental architecture would be pretty similar. The report suggests Sony isn't quite ready to jump from consoles to cloud-based gaming, even as direct competitors such as Microsoft and potential ones like Google reveal game streaming services.
Why would they jump? (Score:4, Insightful)
Why would they jump? If they can capture the market of people who want "games that work even if the Internet is down" and "games that don't glitch out if it's raining" and "games that work even if gamecompany takes the online version down" then that's a pretty big market.
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Which they just added downloading games to because for many it regularly lags out.
they jump because (Score:1)
Because clouds are very high.
Re: Why would they jump? (Score:4)
Look at all the games on the App Store and playstore..... you see something interesting and download it and you realise they just rehash the same format and rely on loot boxes and pay to win .... or grind to you die model.
There's your problem, stay away from mobile games and free2play games. Maybe best to keep away from the latest generation in general.
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This is already not a thing, and it fucking pisses me off. I tried bringing my XBox360 to PAX, only to find out that all locally downloaded games purchased from their store now REQUIRES an active internet connection to play them, even 100% offline games. The DRM is totally fucked up now, even on consoles that are not current gen. This console never used to have this requirement, and its just shit.
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Which specific games? Xbox One or Xbox 360?
Didn't happen to be some of those "Games with Gold" free games as part of that service were they?
They planned to do this for Xbox One but didn't. It seems hard to believe they'd patch it backwards on the older console. So I'm curious for more info.
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Literally the entire XBox 360 Arcade and Indie library. Every game. All of them. Things like Geometry Wars. None of them are functional anymore on the 360 without an active internet connection. I had to find a way to tether the console to my phone using a bunch of janky cable attachments just to get the DRM to authorize my games (ones I had just played days prior at home, so timeout wasn't an issue). Even minutes after the games ended with the janky cable unplugged, I couldn't get back into them.
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Xbox Live Indie Games always required an active internet connection to use them, maybe it was one of those.
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You forgot the "games that work even though my internet connection is not fast enough for video streaming" and "games that won't bust through my monthly data cap by playing" market.
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Except Sony ALREADY does cloud based gaming. It's called Playstation Now. It's how Sony does "backwards compatibility" with the PS4.
In fact, until the weekend, Micro
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Why would they jump? If they can capture the market of people who want "games that work even if the Internet is down" and "games that don't glitch out if it's raining" and "games that work even if gamecompany takes the online version down" then that's a pretty big market.
It's a bad statement in the first place, as Sony has already hedged their bets and has a cloud-based gaming service, PS Now [playstation.com], which is already part of the PS3, PS4, and PS Vita (and available for Windows as well).
It also ignores the reality that Sony's PlayStation is massive globally, but many parts of the globe don't have good high-speed (and/or high data cap) internet service. For many parts of the world, you still need to go out and buy discs to get your games. Sony isn't about to ignore this segment of
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A far superior market would be gaming with FOSS built in. So add monitor and keyboard and you have a computer and game console. Computer running Linux as a virtual machine with gaming on the other virtual desktop. So two for one, take the xbox head on by offering far more, a pc thrown in and take on the windows pc gaming device, it will do work as well as game. Can they make the jump or will they fail like they did with the PS4.
It's gonna be vastly underpowered ... (Score:1)
Just like all consoles.
They are just PCs from five years ago (or worse), with DRM and a different input device.
They should just have a PC certification program. "Any PC with a least X general-purpose shaders, Y memory bandwith, etc ... oryl, even simpler: ... that is accepted by our OS ... gets to call itself a certified PlayStation 2019!"
Just make sure you do not have more than one generation every five years, and you got the exact same offering as a console.
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PC games stop working. You can place the blame anywhere you want, but the upshot is every console game ever released still works on its respective hardware. With PCs it's a total crapshoot what will fail when and whether the "community" cares enough to fix the problem. Just yesterday I found out that "Typing of the Dead" doesn't display the zombies or parts of zombies. The "fix" is to install a version of your graphics card drivers from back when the game released. Great, providing you have a card that was
Re: It's gonna be vastly underpowered ... (Score:2)
PC games stop working.
No; no, they don't.
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The "fix" is to install a version of your graphics card drivers from back when the game released.
In other words: PC games also still work on their respective hardware. The difference is that we tend to keep our consoles, but we chuck out, rebuild or repurpose our obsolete PCs.
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Every PC will continue to work on period correct hardware as well. Commander Keen didn't stop working on 386 computers all of a sudden. You can go find a 386 and a copy of MS-DOS and it runs just fine. Not only that but new games continue to come out for old PCs People are still making Commodore 64 and MS-DOS Games (don't ask my why, but it does happen). Now, will these old games run on the latest Intel i7 with Windows 10? No, but yo
Re: It's gonna be vastly underpowered ... (Score:2)
I can still run every PC game I've ever owned. The ones which are old enough to not be compatible with modern hardware and/or operating systems are also old enough to run just fine on a virtual machine or an emulator.
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You can through varios methods run 99% of games ever released for a PC on a modern PC. Whereas on a console you can run at best games of the previous generation.
Anyway, I'm not trying to prove PCs are better or anything just that they're a great option for gaming.
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Which has more to do with the fact that it was a shitty PC port* in the first place than because of PCs themselves.
*This is especially amusing as it was a typing game, but yes, it came out in arcades and on the Dreamcast prior to PC. Course, you could always play the PS2 version on an emulator.
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> but the upshot is every console game ever released still works on its respective hardware.
Bullshit.
How's that multiplayer working out for older games?
I.e.
* Halo 1
* Halo 2
* Phantasy Star Online
* OutRun Online Arcade
* Metroid Prime Hunters Online
ANY platform where the devs hold the servers "hostage" (you can't run your own) is in danger of not being available at some future date.
I.e. EA will eventually shut down BF3 multiplayer.
Stop misrepresenting the facts.
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but the upshot is every console game ever released still works on its respective hardware.
So do PC games, plus many of them also work on hardware released years later as well. 100% of my old PS1 game discs won't load in my PS4.
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Just like all consoles.
They are just PCs from five years ago (or worse), with DRM and a different input device.
They should just have a PC certification program. "Any PC with a least X general-purpose shaders, Y memory bandwith, etc ... oryl, even simpler: ... that is accepted by our OS ... gets to call itself a certified PlayStation 2019!"
Just make sure you do not have more than one generation every five years, and you got the exact same offering as a console.
So instead of the closed box with set hardware developers can maximise for you want to just set a base level pc that at best is at least....? Soooo, what's the fucking point? Just get a pc.
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They are just PCs from five years ago (or worse), with DRM and a different input device.
You missed "and with vastly better games".
Yaz
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As someone who enjoys both PC and console gaming, it feels as if you're deliberately disregarding the advantages that consoles have. Off the top of my head:
* A (mostly) fixed hardware target. Because the hardware rarely/never changes, developers are able to focus their efforts better, resulting in a generally more solid product. While bugs do occur regularly these days, they tend to be fixed more quickly and are rarer than on PC. In contrast, I've purchased numerous games on GoG and Steam that required INI
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It's got to be a better name than Xbone. (Score:3)
"What's you do today?"
"I spent the day at my Xbone's house." :D
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Why is PIS5 worse than PIS4?
Whoosh! Or rather, Splash!
Re: paying more money nothing you can see (Score:2)
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Pretty sure the PS3 won't support the PSVR headset.
Playstation 360 We One (Score:2)
Best path to cloud gaming (Score:2)
I know (Score:2)
Playstation One. That would be a good name!