Microsoft Now Lets You Stream PC Games To an Xbox One and Use a Controller (theverge.com) 85
Microsoft is now letting Xbox One owners stream their PC games to the console and use a controller to play them. From a report: A newly updated app, Wireless Display app, from Microsoft enables the support so you can play Steam games or other titles directly on an Xbox One. You can use a regular Xbox controller to control the remote PC, enabling game play or even the ability to use an Xbox for presentations. Microsoft's Wireless Display app uses Miracast to create a connection between a PC and the Xbox One, and you can cast to the Xbox using the winkey + P combination. There are different latency modes for gaming and watching videos from a remote PC, and the app is ideal if you want to project a stream or video onto the Xbox. You won't be able to stream protected content like Netflix, though.
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Its insights like these which makes me hate the default choice to be anonymous.
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For the past 6 years all my work laptops no longer have VGA connectors, but HDMI, My home laptop only has HDMI, My friends had bought new gaming rig PCs and while they VGA they also have HDMI connectors too.
Even the cheap TV's I see today have at least 2 HDMI inputs.
The difference between a PC Monitor and a TV isn't that different anymore. Back in the day Computer monitors supported a higher resolution then a TV did, to support features such as clear 80 column readable text, non bleeding colors. Game Conso
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My first computer that I bought was an Amstrad CPC1512 and the Display we great for the time, Being able to handle 640x200 16 color graphics, too bad it wasn't EGA compatible. I had a few games (mostly from Sierra) that supported it (well one game King Quest IV, but I copied the drv file to the other games and they worked fine, up until SCI2) But the display was really good, and combined with the default font, which made ANSI block character 176, 177 178 and 219 line up without that 1px spacer that we saw
They're traditionally in different rooms (Score:2)
The difference between a PC Monitor and a TV isn't that different anymore.
The difference is that they are in different rooms. The PC monitor is on the computer desk, while the TV is in the living room. In addition, last I checked, tower-style cases still dominated mass market desktop PCs, and they still were eyesores in the living room environment. Many gamers don't want to have to spend hundreds on a second PC just for one game nor haul one PC back and forth between the computer desk and the living room. (Others' views [slashdot.org])
I don't know what to say... (Score:3)
...except why?
Few people have a TV that is really good for gaming in the first place and you can use Xbox controllers on a PC.
What is this good for?
As for streaming content, how about allowing a Plex and Kodi app to run directly on the xbox?
Perhaps I'm missing something but this seems to solving an issue I have trouble imagining many people to actually have.
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The only thing I can think of is Wireless, Your PC is up in the office, while your XBox is under your TV.
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Not only that, but it's the wrong direction. KB+M is vastly better for virtually every genre of game except maybe platformers. Put a KB+M player up against a similarly skilled controller player in a FPS, and unless you give the controller guy aim assist in the game, he's gonna get destroyed.
You want to use a KB+M on most games, not a damned controller, unless you want to suck or depend on "auto-aim" where the game does the aiming for you. And if you give that auto-aim to the KB+M player too, he'll still school you.
It's almost like there are other games out there that aren't PvP... Some of us like playing PC games, but would like to play them in the room where the big TV is when the computer isn't... It's not a hard fucking concept to get and people like you are grasping at straws over something YOU DONT HAVE TO USE.
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Platformers are absolutely better with a controller.
So are third-person action titles like God of War, Devil May Cry, and Batman Arkham Whatever.
Same for the more arcade-actiony flight and space games. And I'd never, ever want to play a racing game with a keyboard when a controller is available (a steering wheel is better than both of course, but not everyone plays enough racers to justify buying one).
Menu-driven games like many RPG's and turn-based tacticals like XCOM are a wash.
Fuck your objectively wrong
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How so? You can use the EXACT SAME wheel and pedals you use with a PC with a PS4.
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Because you look retarded with a gaming chair in the middle of a living room.
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KB+M SUCKS.
I used to play Quake 3 competitively back in the early 2000s and even then I used a gamepad for movement, crouching, and jumping. Gamepad in the left hand, mouse in the right. The analog movement is a huge advantage.
The last 10 years or so making precise mouse inputs for more than 30 minutes or so gives me arm pain, so I've gone entirely gamepad. Not even pretending to be competitive in anything anymore, but the gamepad is far more fun, and I can relax instead of crouching at my monitor.
I tend
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KB+M SUCKS.
While I am generally pro-console and loathe the PC Master race asshats, I generally am mouse-tolerant.
Keyboards on the other hand were designed to input text, they don't make good controls, especially not for movement.
I used a gamepad for movement, crouching, and jumping. Gamepad in the left hand, mouse in the right. The analog movement is a huge advantage.
Hybrid controls, I like using it in certain games, if it is supported. Played Quake II on the PSone with the PSone mouse that way, as well as Deus Ex and Half-Life on the PS2 with a USB mouse. I've used it in a few other games as well. You can even use it in FortNite.
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Even if not PvP, a mouse is a huge help, and a keyboard is usually more flexible. Most people use computers if they're not kids, so they already know how to type (even touch type) and use a mouse. Ie, the mouse is easy to aim quickly, it can be fast or slow, it work from minesweeper to Fallout 4. That joystick thing on a controller is junk. Many early FPS games on consoles had an auto-aim feature for this reason. I've tried an old Tomb Raider game (3 or 4) on a PS3? and it was incredibly clunky even thou
Other platformer-like genres (Score:2)
KB+M is vastly better for virtually every genre of game except maybe platformers.
Perhaps 4-player fighting games like Duck Game and Rivals of Aether and Super Smash Bros. are close enough to "platformers", as are 4-player party minigame collections like Mario Party. But is KB+M also better for 2-player fighting games like Street Fighter II and Tekken?
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KB+M is vastly better for virtually every genre of game except maybe platformers.
The reason keyboard control became a thing for games is that early PC owners, having spent thousands on their setups...didn't have much left over for a joystick...so developers put in keyboard control schemes for those people who had a DOS machine, but no joystick.
And they kept on having to do that even for games where keyboard isn't a very good control scheme.
Would you want to play Elite with a keyboard? No Man's Sky? A Third person adventure game? A Diablo clone? A Racing game?
Put a KB+M player up against a similarly skilled controller player in a FPS
Ahh, I get it, you're a c
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Competitive Tetris (Score:2)
Granted that level of performance isn’t needed if you’re playing Tetris
Don't underestimate. As soon as you hear the robotic voice say "Ready, Go!" you know you're in for some some fast $#!+ [youtube.com].
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The refresh rate of gaming monitors is much higher than TVs with 120Hz to 144Hz or higher being common.
TV's are available with 120Hz and 240Hz refresh rates. And what is up with PC gamers wanting 144Hz? Video content is either 24, 30, or 60 so you want a multiple of that
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You can already install Kodi on the Xbox.
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On the TV is nice, but I need the keyboard and mouse. A console controller is a terrible interface, not ergonomic, inaccurate, and designed for children's hands.
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Frets on Fire. End of story.
protected content like any thing that needs HDCP? (Score:2)
and controller only??
the lag of an long HDMI / DP cable + wireless keyb (Score:2)
and the lag of an long HDMI / DP cable + wireless keyboard + mouse? with an cost way under that of an xbox.
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Speaking of lag, I had something that seemed odd happen this week.
I recently hooked my gaming PC up to my TV (not my preference, but there are reasons), but I haven't had much chance to play around with it since doing so. And because TV time is something that needs to be shared with others, I had an interest in getting Moonlight [moonlight-stream.org] up and running on my iPad so I could enjoy my PC games even if I didn't have access to the TV at any given time.
As I'm going through the setup process, I had the PC displaying on th
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Or buy/frankencable a 2+*2+ matrix hdmi switch for $100 and send any input to any output that allows wired video input.
FTFY. Sadly, my laptops, phones, tablets, etc. (i.e. the screens I have available when I don't have access to the TV) don't support video input from wired sources, so wireless is the only way to go.
You can run a f2f HDMI cable through drywall pretty easily and pretty it up with a panel port. [...] run it through the HVAC.
Given that I need to account for the WAF [wikipedia.org], which means that maximum prettying up must take place, what you're suggesting is that instead of using my existing devices and some free software with no additional purchases and no additional labor, I can instead buy an incredibly long CL2 (or higher) rated HDMI cable, c
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I just don't get it (Score:2)
I don't own an Xbox One, so I have a problem conceiving it.
Has there ever been an instance when playing a game on one's computer, and thinking, "damn, if only my Xbox One had that Steamlink feature so I could play off my TV..."
Did Xbox users clamor for this feature? Is this really a significant Xbox deficiency that needed to be addressed? There weren't more pressing issues to fix for Xbox? Should I expect other console makers to add that option to their consoles? Is it time for DOJ to open up an antitru
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I don't get what's so hard to understand. You own game X on PC. Let's say you bought it on PC because the graphics are better and the options are better. You want to play said game on your couch occasionally. You don't want to run new wiring through your house.
Or an even better use case- you have emulators on PC (which are banned on the XBox Store), and you want to play them in the living room like they were designed for.
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Or an even better use case- you have emulators on PC (which are banned on the XBox Store)
Then how is Haunted: Halloween '86 for Xbox [microsoft.com] on Microsoft Store? It's almost certainly an NES emulator, seeing as the exact same game is also for sale on cartridge [3dcartstores.com]. I'm under the impression that it slides by rule 10.13.10 [microsoft.com] on grounds that it's self-contained and won't run ROMs other than the packaged one.
But your "even better use case" is valid: You're playing a game for another platform, be it Windows or something a Windows PC can emulate, whose publisher hasn't rereleased it on Xbox.
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But an XBox is a very expensive way of doing this. There's got to be an easier solution than using a full console. You just want the video casting to the TV plus a way to get your inputs to your computer (and a laptop desk of course, for your keyboard and mouse :-).
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The other option is to hook my PC tower up directly to the TV. Not as convenient with all the wires.
Presentations? (Score:2)
But why? (Score:2)
I can't think of a reason why I'd use this...
That must mean that nobody would ever have a reason to use this...
That must mean this is a terrible idea...
That makes me angry and I must share my opinions with the world!
Just tried it - too slow for gaming (Score:2)