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PlayStation 5 Launches Nov 12 For $500; Discless Digital Edition Priced at $400 (polygon.com) 56

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The PlayStation 5 will cost $499 for the standard version of Sony's next-gen console and $399 for the PS5 Digital Edition -- the system without an optical disc drive -- when it launches Nov. 12, Sony Interactive Entertainment announced Wednesday during its PlayStation 5 Showcase livestream. From a report: The Nov. 12 release date is for the consoles' launches in the U.S., Canada, Mexico, Australia, New Zealand, and South Korea. They'll become available on Nov. 19 for the rest of the world, Sony said. Sony's PS5 price announcement follows similar news from Microsoft, which announced the release date of its $499 Xbox Series X and $299 Xbox Series S earlier in September.
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PlayStation 5 Launches Nov 12 For $500; Discless Digital Edition Priced at $400

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  • Looks like a good system but launch titles thin (Score:5, Interesting)

    by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @04:37PM (#60512630)

    The system itself and demos so far look impressive, but launch tittles seem kind of low.

    I think that is why Sony is doing the PS Plus Collection thing, where you get quite a few very good PS4 games, for free, if you have a PS5 and a PS Plus subscription (at least that is how I'm reading it, details may be different). That way even if there are not a lot of launch titles, you still have a lot of stuff you could start playing right away until the bigger upcoming games come out for the PS5.

    I saw some speculation the Playstation Plus Collection was the list of the only games that would be backwards compatible, but I don't think that is accurate - seems like the full list of backwards compatiblePS4 games would be much larger than what they are offering in the Collection.

    • > I saw some speculation the Playstation Plus Collection was the list of the only games that would be backwards compatible, but I don't think that is accurate - seems like the full list of backwards compatible PS4 games would be much larger than what they are offering in the Collection.

      That's my impression as well.

      What was shown and mentioned was the a small collection of PS+ Collection -- that are PS4 games -- that were "remastered" for the PS5. To what extent we don't know yet -- whether or not this i

    • Console manufacturers want us to subscribe and not own any games, that's fine, just sign me up for $10 per month subscription.

      Subscribing includes
      rental of a new console,
      all games for the platform,
      two fancy controllers,
      the better console to TV cables
      all the console accessories
      no return fees
      free repairs/replacement for defective units
      no early termination fees.

      That'd put me in around $400 total cost per console until the new console is released with access to all the game library and decent hardware.

      I'm good

      • > the better console to TV cables For digital video signal (hdmi), there are no better cables. It either works or it doesnâ(TM)t. I agree with your point though, either I own the games or I donâ(TM)t. If I ever get it, Iâ(TM)ll buy the version with the disc reader just so that I can buy and sell my used games.

        • For digital video signal (hdmi), there are no better cables. It either works or it doesn't.

          Rugged cables allow for more time, more connect/disconnect cycles, or more rough handling by other members of the household (human or other) before they transition from works to doesn't.

    • The system itself and demos so far look impressive, but launch tittles seem kind of low.

      Agree on both counts, but I always figure that a new console is going to stay the same price for the first year or two, so if I'm probably going to buy one in that timeframe, I won't save any money by waiting for better games along. Just Horizon and some of the games getting PS5 patches (like Destiny 2 and Cyberpunk) make it seem worth jumping in for me.

      • Just Horizon and some of the games getting PS5 patches (like Destiny 2 and Cyberpunk) make it seem worth jumping in for me.

        I ended up pre-ordering the PS5 for that reason, even with just one game I really wanted from the launch group (Spiderman) I figured some games upcoming may well have patches to look even better on the PS5.... It did kind of make me wonder if things like Cyberpunk would maybe release a PS5 specific version even? The timing seems too close they might be doing a PS5 specific release.

  • Wait One Year (Score:3)

    by stikves ( 127823 ) on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @04:57PM (#60512668) Homepage

    It looks like neither console has "the game" to buy at launch date. Yes, PlayStation has a few more exclusives, but even that is not enough to make a complete switch.

    Give one more year, and there would be more reasons to switch, more games, better prices, and possibly GOTY editions of these early games at better prices. Let them build the libraries, polish up bugs, and offer a better deal.

    • Agreed. There's no reason to rush out. Load times are the only thing that will be dramatically better at launch.

      Otherwise, the new OSes are likely to be buggy and missing key features that the manufacturers will rush to add in the first few months, backwards compatibility will be spotty until gamers complain that X doesn't work, and developers will be working kinks out of their pipelines as they work with a new dev kit and upgrade their engines over the next year or two (remember: UE5 won't be reaching devs

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

        Agreed. There's no reason to rush out. Load times are the only thing that will be dramatically better at launch.

        Otherwise, the new OSes are likely to be buggy and missing key features that the manufacturers will rush to add in the first few months, backwards compatibility will be spotty until gamers complain that X doesn't work, and developers will be working kinks out of their pipelines as they work with a new dev kit and upgrade their engines over the next year or two (remember: UE5 won't be reaching devs

    • The first one to offer Xtreme Beach Volleyball compatible with a VR headset will win. Bonus points if there are "secret rooms" with "enhanced gameplay".

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      GT7 will probably sell a lot of consoles. It's not only the best serious racing series on consoles (complete with FIA official competitions), it's also very popular for Twitch streaming and YouTube.

      You are right of course about waiting a year, but I expect they will shift plenty of units.

  • For context the Sega Genesis (Score:4, Informative)

    by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @05:08PM (#60512694)
    launched in 1989 for an inflation adjusted $393. The Atari 2600 was around $800 inflation adjusted dollars at launch IIRC. My grand parents had one because grandma got addicted to Space Invaders. We weren't a wealthy family and I have no idea how/why they spent that much money back then :P.

    And the 3DO and Neo-Geo were even crazier. Especially the 3DO. Neo-Geo had the excuse of being arcade hardware in a console box being sold to high end gamers. The 3DO was around $1300 in inflation adjusted dollars and mass marketed. It was the .com boom I suppose but still.

    The Super Nintendo had the cheapest launch, IIRC. Two controllers and a game (Super Mario World) for around $380 bucks give or take.
    • My mother still says the Atari 2600 was the best investment she ever made (think we got it around 1981), it kept us out of trouble, saved 100's on video rentals and demands to do other things and kept us from fighting and breaking stuff when we were stuck inside in poor weather. For the first couple of years we only had 3 games, missile command, space invaders and Berzerk, we would then swap cartridges with friends for variety.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Hodr ( 219920 )

      3DO was before the .com boom, you may be thinking the M3 successor. The 3DO was always marketed weird. Sold initially through AT&T stores and electronics stores (circuit city, montgomery ward's electric avenue) like the CDi rather than in video game stores like Software Etc. and Babbage's (the two big ones at the time).

      But it was well above the competition, which was the SNES/Genesis. I bought one shortly after launch for $750, solely for Crash 'N Burn. The Playstation one came out not too long afterwa

  • 15 years ago BMG put copyright software protection on their CDs (which is how music used to be distributed). It was never actually used by a hacker to break into Windows XP system, but I guess it could have? Sony then bought BMG. So no way am I every going to use a Sony product!

  • I'm kind of bummed because I was ready to pay for it today. But, I'll wait for tomorrow. I just want to get on the list close to the top in case there are any coronavirus problems. It's kind of hard to tell a kid "Yeah, this is your present. It's not here yet, but here's a helpful picture of what it'd look like if you were able to get it"

  • will be an interesting gen, last gen Sony won easily as they had the more powerful system and the cheaper price initially so the battle was over before it started. This time we have price parity with the Xbox being more powerful and the xbox has the cheaper low end digital option. SO it will be more Sony's focus on exclusives vs Microsoft focus on performance and cross platform. For me I might get the cheap Xbox discless model as this round I am mainly focused on PC games, but looks to be a great few years
    • The Series S is at a price palatable to the casual gamer at launch. This is definitely going to give them an early lead.
  • For both the PS2 and PS3 I could peruse Craigslist and buy games for $20 to $30. Play them a couple months, then sell them for $20 to $30.

    For the PS4 I rarely find games on Craigslist, and I have yet to sell a single game via same.

    What has happened instead is I wait for a PSN sale, and buy a download for the same price I used to buy a Craigslist game. But of course that download is tied to my PS4 and I can't sell it when I finish it.

    what it means for me is games have gotten a lot more expensive.
    • And the PS5 is curvy, so it won't stack well with your PS4 or other A/V components.

      Playstation - Rounded top
      Playstation 2 - flat top, stackable
      Playstation 3 - Convex top
      Playstation 4 - flat top, stackable
      Playstation 5 - Convex/Curvy

      I'll wait for the Playstation 6.
      • My theory is they go with curvy cases to make it hard to stack other AV boxes on top when over-heating could be an issue. My PS2 ran really cool and my PS4 does a good job cooling itself, but my PS1 died in the first year and my PS3 always felt hot. Iâ(TM)m guessing the PS5 is going to run hot too...

        • My theory is they go with curvy cases to make it hard to stack other AV boxes on top when over-heating could be an issue.

          The curves of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (NTSC U/C) and the Nintendo 64 (all regions) are there for precisely this reason, as well as to deter setting drinks where they could spill into the vent.

  • $100 cheaper than the competition for the same CPU and GPU as the high end model. Not like the Xbox where the more expensive model is 3x the power and 2x the storage of the less expensive one. I'm glad Sony didn't cut corners and place extra burdens on the developer.

  • PS5 strength (exclusive games) is the main reason why i avoid them.

    As much as i hate MS, they are more pro consumer than sony.

    1- play on Xbox and pc.

    2- crazy backwards compatibility.

    3- gamepass is awesome.

    So no sony for me.

    • As a long time XBox fan, I bought the PS4 Pro strictly for Spiderman and God of War. Those two games are worth it to me to pick up a PS4. I'm hoping the new Spiderman is playable on the "old" system as I'm not a huge fan of the design of the 5 or of the bulky ass controllers.

  • Most of their launch titles are $70. (Score:3)

    by twocows ( 1216842 ) on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @10:44PM (#60513882)
    Overcharge for the console and the software? They must be pretty damn confident in their position. I don't blame them, they completely showed up MS last gen, but I think that's going to be a bridge too far for a lot of people.

    Consoles seem more and more optional as time goes on, honestly. The last actual console I bought was the Wii U (Switch if you count that, but I use it as a handheld) and I barely used it other than to hack it; I've been PC/handheld exclusive for several years now and haven't felt like I missed out on anything I care about. Not to mention I get much better deals on PC price-wise, I can throw a game I'm kind of interested on isthereanydeal and just buy it when it goes on sale for the price I want.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      I hate to defend them but $70 today was $41 in 1995 when the original Playstation launched. Games back then sold for about $50.

      The console was $300, which today would be $511.

      Of course these days you have to factor in the cost of all the DLC and micro-transactions.

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