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Sony Gives Your PS4 a Second Life: Slinging a PS5 To Another Room of Your House (reuters.com) 27

Sony confirmed today that the existing PS4 will soon let you access your other PlayStation consoles remotely, including the PS5: "We're updating PS4's Remote Play feature. Now, in addition to being able to access your PS4 from a PC or a mobile device, your PS4 can access other consoles via Remote Play too, right on your TV. This includes the ability to connect to your PS5 and stream a PS5 game to your PS4 so you can play it there." The Verge reports: VGC and Eurogamer reported today that a "PS5 Remote Play" app has already popped up on the PS4, offering up to a 1080p stream from your new console to your existing one. Perhaps you'll hook up your PS4 to the bedroom TV -- or the living room if you keep your primary console in the den? You don't necessarily need a PS4 to stream a PS5 to another room of your house, though, since the PS Remote Play app is getting updated on other platforms as well. The Windows version not only adds PS5 support at 1080p but also HDR. Sony's PS Remote Play apps for Android and iOS have been updated for the PS5, and we'd be surprised if the Mac version wasn't ready as well.
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Sony Gives Your PS4 a Second Life: Slinging a PS5 To Another Room of Your House

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  • If I want to use a PS4 in my bedroom to stream a game that is actually running on a PS5 in my living room, do I have to get up and go to the living room to power-on the PS5, or can that be done remotely too?
    • by Entrope ( 68843 )

      If you want to do that, leave the PS5 in "rest mode" rather than turning it off, and you can wake it up over the network.

      Ars Technica reported last week that the PS5 rest mode uses ~30 W, which is much higher than it should be. Sony previously claimed it should be on the order of 0.5 W, which is respectable, so maybe Ars was using non-final firmware, or maybe it's not yet fine tuned all the way.

      • That's an extemely high power usage. Especially when something like Wake-On-LAN has existed for so long. they should definitely be able to have a standby that works on less than half that amount of power. Standby on PCs uses under 10 watts most of the time.

        • Re:Small limitations (Score:5, Informative)

          by Entrope ( 68843 ) on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @09:00AM (#60707330) Homepage

          The PS4, depending on exact model and what it's doing in rest mode (charging controllers, downloading software, etc.) has a power draw under 9 W [playstation.com]. Newer models have significantly reduced that, to 1.7 W for rest mode with a game in suspended state.

          As I said, Sony estimated [playstation.com] that the PS5 rest mode should be about 0.5 W for the suspended-game case. That 70% reduction is big, but plausible, so I expect Ars Technica was not seeing what is representative of the final power draw.

    • You are missing the point. The point isn't that the feature is useful.

      The point is that every PS4 now displays a PS5 advertisement. Now all the people that were perfectly happy with their PS4 and in no hurry to buy a replacement, will get the message that they're not getting the most out of their PS4 if they don't also buy a PS5.

      • Why do you think they need a technical reason to advertise PS5 on PS4? That is going to happen regardless. And if you are a PS4 owner, and happen to have multiple places to play it, then why isn't the feature useful if you also acquire a PS5?

  • ...now do this for my PS2 Fat Boy.

  • by mutantSushi ( 950662 ) on Monday November 09, 2020 @10:40PM (#60706258)

    PS4 can output that high with UHD videos etc, if local network can handle it, why shouldn't that be possible?

    I honestly find it strange the author is casually suggesting undermining the PS5 controller requirement that is built into PS5 games played on PS5 itself, after most media including Eurogamer itself has called out the new Dual Sense controller as one of most compelling parts of "next gen" experience offered by PS5. If there is way, even by streaming thru PS4, for PS5 games to be played with PS4 controller, that becomes the lowest common denominator that the game is actually built around, instead of features like dynamic triggers being core to the game experience. I guess the author is just in denial on that, and whining about needing to spend on 2nd controller (although personally it wouldn't be additional to what I would have for local multiplayer anyways).

    • by hattig ( 47930 )

      It would be fine if you could take the PS5 controller and use it on the PS4 (and other PS5 remote play apps) to play the PS5 games that you can't play where that is set up (because someone is watching TV I guess). The controller can be moved around the house.

  • by dohzer ( 867770 ) on Monday November 09, 2020 @11:30PM (#60706398)

    Oh yeah, because we're all wealthy enough to live in Hollywood mansions with more than one room!

    • by khchung ( 462899 )

      Oh yeah, because we're all wealthy enough to live in Hollywood mansions with more than one room!

      The PS3 was released in 2006. Many people started playing PlayStation since then (not to mention those started even earlier), you would be surprised at how much more money people can earn after 14 or more years.

      Yes, able to play PS5 remotely from the old PS4 is useful for many people. Remote play is already available on PC. Sometimes, the best TV in the house may be taken by family to watch other things, it is nice to play the PS5 without having to unplug it and move to another room.

  • The controller has some new features...

    From the Eurogamer article I read from the link,. it looks like this means you'll only be able to play games that do not use new PS5 controller features in this way.

    Not sure how much of an issue that will really be in practice though, as the new controller features seem kind of minor and I don't think most games would make them mandatory.

  • Only 1080p? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by scdeimos ( 632778 ) on Monday November 09, 2020 @11:37PM (#60706422)
    Are they seriously limiting it to 1080p on the PS4? I hope it's at least 1080p HDR. My PS4 Pro has been running 4K since I got it in 2016.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by wed128 ( 722152 )

      4k is a lot to compress and a lot to stream, they're probably worried about the PS4's wifi performance, which isn't great to begin with.

      • The desktop PC and macOS have 4K clients. The PS4 Pro computes entire framebuffers for games quite happily at 4K HDR, and streaming is usually handled by a dedicated ASIC decoding x.264 for x.265 in hardware with little to no CPU involvement. This is very much an artificial limitation and there's no reason for it: you already have to have bought a PS5 to be able to stream from it so they're not losing sales by adding a 4K streaming client to PS4.
  • First linux, then some memory card slot, then it'll be this.

    Stuff sony (yes, personal preference). Insecure Rootkits on CDs, and all the other crap they do it's a wonder why people still bother buying their stuff.

    xbox. Pretty much none of the above shit. Compare side by side? Sony is evil. MS is good (I'm shocked!)

  • I really do not understand why Sony does not allow me to install other OS on the PS4 hardware. I do not want any warranty or other business tricks for my PS4, I just want to use the hardware I own the way I want. And I want to install Linux and Steam without hassle and hacks.

    • If they offer it then they might have to provide support for it and if they take it away they might get sued in the EU, UK, etc. where you're actually responsible for claims you make about your product's functionality. It's much safer not to. Also, they aren't in the business of selling consoles to people who want Linux boxes, they are in the business of selling consoles so they can make money on games licensing, and that would do nothing to support their bottom line.

  • Serious question - I use streaming apps to stream games from my powerful office pc to the laptop in the living room. (Using apps like PARSEC) . It would be very useful to be able to stream my pc to a console, too. I was considering a raspberry pi or something to do it, but are the new XBOX/PS consoles going to be that progressive?

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